Re[2]: Please, need help threading correctly...

2005-06-14 Thread Ben Allen
Howdy Tony,

Monday, June 13, 2005, 10:02:27 PM, Tony wrotened:



Tony --On Monday, June 13, 2005 21:41:59 +0100 MFPA 
Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Who?

Tony I was going to say that as well!

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Re: Please, need help threading correctly...

2005-06-14 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Dwight,

  A reminder of what Dwight A Corrin on TBUDL typed on:
  13 June 2005 at 16:10:07 GMT -0500

 two of the great mysteries of the 20th century on this continent

 Oh them.

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Re: v 2.12 incomplete GET operation

2005-06-14 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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 ~( __ _o   Was another beautiful day, Mon, 13 Jun 2005,
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 Hello Bat-Folk!

 My bat, when getting new mail, no longer completes the process.

 It now will download some (or occasionally, even all mail) BUT for
 some reason now does not always (rarely, as a matter of fact) finishes
 retrieval and deletion of mail from the server. especially when there
 are a large number of messages involved (For a few messages it almost
 always works properly, but I rarely have only a few mssgs on the
 server!)

 Any ideas? Maybe a time out to lengthen?

Hmmm... I don't think it has something with TB. I use 2.12.00 too (lots
of mail as well), and when such thing happens, then it's an
ISP/connection issue, nothing internal. My server timeout is on
default (60 seconds) all the time.

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Re: My own Icon set

2005-06-14 Thread MAU
Hello Richard,

M It's too dab you didn't make them before I made my yellowish ones.
M I would have used yours, but I'm now too used to my yellowish ones.
 
 I've just been pottering along slowly adjusting until I got everything
 as I wanted it. It wasn't until this morning that I realised what I
 wanted for the outbox draft icon.

That's the right way to go. You are a patient man while I am not. All I
did with my yellowish icons was to solve my most important issues
(yellow envelops, unread flag, inactive filters and draft messages in
Outbox) and didn't pay much attention or devoted any time to the rest of
icons. Maybe some day ;-)

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Re: Strange filtering/message tossing issue.

2005-06-14 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Marc,
Tuesday, June 14, 2005, 12:09:39 AM, you wrote:

ML I've been noticing a peculiar problem with The Bat!.  Messages coming
ML in for my 5 accounts get tossed into whatever mailbox strikes the
ML program's fancy... Doesn't matter what account or what mailbox.  For
ML example, when I fired up my laptop a short while ago and started The
ML Bat!, it pulled in some 50 or 60 messages for 3 of the 5 various
ML accounts. (Picked up from 3 different mail servers, of course.)  They
ML were tossed into random mailboxes.  Most of them landed in the JUNK
ML folder of the first account.  Others were randomly dispersed; some
ML correct, some wrong.

ML This problem has been with the program for quite a while now; I've
ML reported it to the bug submission address, but some software engineer
ML type person at Ritlab marked the problem solved - no comments, no
ML solutions, no nothing.

ML Does anyone have any ideas on this?  It's a really annoying but
ML non-fatal.  Has anyone else run into it?  (BTW, it happens on any
ML machine.  I have copies of The Bat! installed on 2 machines and the
ML same quirk shows up.)

I  have this kind of thing happen occasionally. Just seems to lose all
ability  to  sort. Unfortunately, or fortunately, it happens rarely and
is not reproducible on my end.

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Site with all TB! keyboard shortcuts?

2005-06-14 Thread Darrin
Hello TBUDL,

  Is there a website that has a list of all the keyboard shortcuts for
  TB? Save me some time asking a gazzilion questions (Is gazzilion
  even a word?) h

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Re: Site with all TB! keyboard shortcuts?

2005-06-14 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Tuesday, June 14, 2005, 9:20:02 AM, Darrin wrote:

 Is there a website that has a list of all the keyboard shortcuts for
 TB? Save me some time asking a gazzilion questions (Is gazzilion
 even a word?) h

Anything you found would not be accurate at present. Most, or at least
many of the keyboard shortcuts have disappeared, even the ones
indicated in the pull down menus.


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What is new in 2.5.26?

2005-06-14 Thread Fredrik Bergström
Hello TBUDL,

  I noticed that 2.5.26 is available on Ritlabs download page.
  Any word about what is new with this version?

  I could not resist to install it ;)

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Re: What is new in 2.5.26?

2005-06-14 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Fredrik!

On Tuesday, June 14, 2005, 10:15 AM, you wrote:

  I noticed that 2.5.26 is available on Ritlabs download page.
   Any word about what is new with this version?

It's just this minute on the full-release page. We have been
discussing it on TBBETA--before it showed on the public download
page--for the past couple of hours.

Maxim said that it was for the purpose of fixing a major bug in v.
3.5.25.

   I could not resist to install it ;)

So, it went smoothly?

At least one person has complained on TBBETA that TB! will not even
open for him with v. 3.5.26.

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Re: Please, need help threading correctly...

2005-06-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Victor,

On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:46:34 -0400 GMT (14/06/2005, 04:46 +0700 GMT),
Victor B. Gonzalez wrote:

VBG   The option of threading by TO: Address seems so far a viable option.
VBG   I really appreciate everyone hooting along in agreement. I assume
VBG   this is an option many won't vote against.

VBG   How then do I put in a feature request and be able to track it?

Go to the issue tracker at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/, and switch to
the wish list.

VBG   Also, if worse did come to worse and the developers for some reason
VBG   or another refused to add such an option, is there a secret hack or
VBG   any third party utilities that will strip all recipient names from
VBG   messages in my database?

You can always export the mails to unix format, edit them, and import
them back into TB. Depending on the editor you use, this may be a lot
of manual work, though.

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TB! v. 3.5.26 [was Re: What is new in 2.5.26?]

2005-06-14 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Mary!

On Tuesday, June 14, 2005, 10:47 AM, you wrote:

  I noticed that 2.5.26 ...

Sorry, meant to comment on Fredrik's typo in his subject line and
above, in my previous Reply. The version on the download page is v.
3.5.26, not 2.

 ... is available on Ritlabs download page. Any word about what is
 new with this version?

 It's just this minute on the full-release page. We have been
 discussing it on TBBETA--before it showed on the public download
 page--for the past couple of hours.

 Maxim said that it was for the purpose of fixing a major bug in v.
 3.5.25.

Here, from TBBETA is a quote of what Maxim said in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  :

Maxim  The major bug was [-] The On-The-Fly Encryption startup
Maxim  choice might have ignored.

This was in a TBBETA thread on June 7, when v. 3.5.26 was released to
the beta testers.

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Re: Strange filtering/message tossing issue.

2005-06-14 Thread MAU
Hello Marc,

snipped
 Does anyone have any ideas on this?  It's a really annoying but
 non-fatal.  Has anyone else run into it?  (BTW, it happens on any
 machine.  I have copies of The Bat! installed on 2 machines and the
 same quirk shows up.)

I use more than 5 accounts, a large number of filters, receive hundreds
of e-mail daily and I have never seen a problem similar to what you
describe. I would suggest you carefully review your filters.

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Re: Filter processing

2005-06-14 Thread MAU
Hello Robin,

 If so, I am trying to work out why this happened. I have a common filter
 called ACPL (Popfile). The message met the conditions of the filter,
 but it should have had no effect since it the filter moves messages to
 the inbox of the account into which the message was originally downloaded
 anyway.

In order to leave incoming messages in Inbox you do not need to include
any 'move' filter action.

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help with selective download

2005-06-14 Thread David Huber
We have two of us in my office who get email on our own domain, but
which is hosted at fastmail.fm, so the domain is sort of virtual. All
email sent to us is redirected to one fastmail.fm account. I set up
The Bat! on both our computers, and use selective download on each one
to ignore each other's emails:

So I am [EMAIL PROTECTED], and I have my filter set to ignore all
email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

My office mate, [EMAIL PROTECTED], has hers set to ignore all email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mostly this works perfectly, except for when someone sends email to
both of us - then The Bat! on both our computer ignores it, and
neither of us downloads it, which has caused some problems today.

Selective Download, for some myopic reason, only allows one to ignore
or kill an email - there is no setting to say please download this
one, which would solve our problem. It would be much easier to have a
selective download that says download all email to person1 instead
of having to say ignore all email to person2.

Of course, the simplest solution is to get another fastmail account
and have one of our email addresses directed to that account, which is
the most efficient way, though to this engineer not the most elegant
(or cost-conscious) solution.

And I could also just have both of us download all email, and set up a
filter to trash any email that wasn't intended for us, but that's not
efficient or elegant either.

Any thoughts on how to solve this problem in The Bat!?



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Re: Signature delimiter (Was: TB 3.5 - Bug with view by thread)

2005-06-14 Thread Stephane Bouvard [ML]
Hi,

,- - [ Le mardi 17 mai 2005 vers 16:37 Leif Gregory écrivait: ] - -
|
 However, (you knew that was coming didn't you! grin), to address
 your S/MIME issue. I'm not quite sure what the exact problem is, but
 if you'd like you can get a free personal e-mail certificate from
 www.thawte.com or at least you used to be able to. Those are known to
 be just fine for use in TB. I don't quite recall the URL off the top
 of my head but someone wrote a very nice tutorial detailing the
 process step by step. I'm sure someone will chime in with it here
 shortly.
|
`- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

My problem is that i have an official national certificate : in Belgium, we now 
have an electronic identity card, with an included certificate (wich need the 
card, a card reader, a pin code,...).  This certificate work well with Outlook, 
but not with TheBat! : this certificate does not mention any email address 
(this certificate authenticate my name, not my email address)...  and TheBat! 
only select the S/Mime certificate with the email address...  so TheBat! 
allways told me that i does'nt have any valid certificate for my address...


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Re: Site with all TB! keyboard shortcuts?

2005-06-14 Thread Paul Jansen
Dear Paul,

 Hello TBUDL,

   Is there a website that has a list of all the keyboard shortcuts for
   TB? Save me some time asking a gazzilion questions (Is gazzilion
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Disappearing Mail

2005-06-14 Thread Ben Allen
Howdy Flying Rodent fans,

  I  don't  know  if  this  has been reported before but something
  funny  is  going  on  here.  My  folders  keep  losing  the mail
  contained  in  them.  For example I have 77 mails in one folder,
  and  TB  is  only showing one. If I press enter and look at only
  that  folder  hey  presto  they  are  all there, but they do not
  reappear  in  the  standard  folder  window.  However  they  are
  displayed  as  there in the account tree. Am confused. Is this a
  bug or just an option that I have mistakenly checked?

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Re: Disappearing Mail

2005-06-14 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Ben,

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:24:07 +0100GMT (14-6-2005, 22:24 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

BA If I press enter and look at only that folder hey presto they are
BA all there, but they do not reappear in the standard folder window.
BA However they are displayed as there in the account tree.

Did you try:
  View - Display - All messages

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Re: Disappearing Mail

2005-06-14 Thread Chris

Ben Allen @ 2005-Jun-14 4:24:07 PM
Disappearing Mail mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I don't know if this has been reported before but something funny is
 going on here. My folders keep losing the mail contained in them.
 For example I have 77 mails in one folder, and TB is only showing
 one. If I press enter and look at only that folder hey presto they
 are all there, but they do not reappear in the standard folder
 window. However they are displayed as there in the account tree. Am
 confused. Is this a bug or just an option that I have mistakenly
 checked?

Alt-Searching may have struck again! Press ESC.

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Re: help with selective download

2005-06-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello David,

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:50:43 -0500 GMT (15/06/2005, 00:50 +0700 GMT),
David Huber wrote:

DH Selective Download, for some myopic reason, only allows one to ignore
DH or kill an email - there is no setting to say please download this
DH one, which would solve our problem. It would be much easier to have a
DH selective download that says download all email to person1 instead
DH of having to say ignore all email to person2.

That's a good suggestion.

DH Of course, the simplest solution is to get another fastmail account
DH and have one of our email addresses directed to that account, which is
DH the most efficient way, though to this engineer not the most elegant
DH (or cost-conscious) solution.

Au contraire, I think redirecting them to different addresses is the
most elegant solution.

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Re: Signature delimiter (Was: TB 3.5 - Bug with view by thread)

2005-06-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Stephane,

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:31:57 +0200 GMT (15/06/2005, 01:31 +0700 GMT),
Stephane Bouvard [ML] wrote:

SBM My problem is that i have an official national certificate : in
SBM Belgium, we now have an electronic identity card, with an
SBM included certificate (wich need the card, a card reader, a pin
SBM code,...). This certificate work well with Outlook,

Wow. Can you direct me to a website that describes this real-life
Big-Brother-Technology and its uses?

SBM but not with TheBat!

TB will accept biometric data soon, the developers want us to
believe. Sent them a mail and ask about the ID cert that is accepted
by the competiton but not by TB. You might have to send them your ID
card and PIN code for testing purposes, though.

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Re: help with selective download

2005-06-14 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello David,
Tuesday, June 14, 2005, 12:50:43 PM, you wrote:

DH Any thoughts on how to solve this problem in The Bat!?

 Could you not set the filter to:
 Recipient Does Not Contain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 then Ignore.

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Antivirus plugins for Nod32?

2005-06-14 Thread Darrin
Hello TBUDL,

  I use Nod32 and wondering if there were plugins for the AV part of
  TB!.

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Re[2]: Site with all TB! keyboard shortcuts?

2005-06-14 Thread Darrin
Hello Dwight,

Tuesday, June 14, 2005, 7:28:45 AM, you wrote:

 Anything you found would not be accurate at present. Most, or at least
 many of the keyboard shortcuts have disappeared, even the ones
 indicated in the pull down menus.

too bad. If someone could come up with a list I could put them up on
the net when I had some time.

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Turn off number replying for specific users?

2005-06-14 Thread Darrin
Hello TBUDL,

  I want the use of number replying enabled for all people whom I
  reply to email except this group. Is there a way to turn off number
  replying for all mail going into my TBUDL folder which is from this
  message group, but enabling it for all others?

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Re: Antivirus plugins for Nod32?

2005-06-14 Thread Darrin
Hello Darrin,

Tuesday, June 14, 2005, 8:20:02 PM, you wrote:

 Hello TBUDL,

   I use Nod32 and wondering if there were plugins for the AV part of
   TB!.


I was reading this
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=39002highlight=thebat
and it looks like its not needed after all with TB! Which is good. Do
you fellow TB users here agree?

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Re[2]: Turn off number replying for specific users?

2005-06-14 Thread Darrin
Hello Ian,

Tuesday, June 14, 2005, 8:39:05 PM, you wrote:

 You can use the REPLYCOUNTER macro in your template.

 I have not played with it, but either have it globally turned on and
 in this folder turn it off, or the other way around.

I see the replycounter macro.  I would like to have it used to turn
off the reply counter is this folder. How do I set the macro to turn
it off?
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Re: Turn off number replying for specific users?

2005-06-14 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Tue 14-Jun-05 10:50pm -0500, Darrin wrote:

 I see the replycounter macro.  I would like to have it used to turn
 off the reply counter is this folder. How do I set the macro to turn
 it off?

Use the SINGLERE macro.

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Re: Turn off number replying for specific users?

2005-06-14 Thread Darrin
Hello Bill,

Tuesday, June 14, 2005, 9:19:11 PM, you wrote:

 Use the SINGLERE macro.

Thanks. I cant believe I didnt see that.

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Re[2]: Antivirus plugins for Nod32?

2005-06-14 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Wednesday, June 15, 2005, Darrin wrote:

   I use Nod32 and wondering if there were plugins for the AV part of
   TB!.

 I was reading this
 http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=39002highlight=thebat
 and it looks like its not needed after all with TB! Which is good. Do
 you fellow TB users here agree?

You don't need plugin for NOD32, if You don't want to check

- digitally signed/encrypted messages
- partially downloaded messages (message splitted to more parts)
- messages downloaded via secured connection (SSL/TLS)

in these cases, IMON is not able to check messages and only way to do
this is use plugin developed by Ritlabs, which is in beta stage now.

You can download it here for example:
http://www.thebat.cz/stazeni/beta/nod32.rar (50kB)

There is one known issue, system must be rastarted after adding
plugin, NOD32 doesn't work with plugin correctly until restart. As I
heard, this should be fixed in NOD32 2.5, but I didn't checked this
yet.

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Bye

Marek Mikus
Czech support of The Bat!
http://www.thebat.cz

Using the best The Bat! 3.5.26
under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line

 



Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html