Re: The Bat slowing down.
Hallo K, On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 22:25:38 -0500GMT (3-10-2005, 5:25 +0200, where I live), you wrote: KS I was an old user of The Bat!. I recommend it to my friends who use MS Windows. KS A friend of mine has windows XP, Mobile Pentium 4 , 2,2Ghz , 512MB RAM KS 40GB HDD has around 1.5 Gb of mails (approx. 50k messages) in around 4 accounts. KS But his The Bat! 2.00.6 si very slow to start and stop. He is getting tired KS with his delay and is planning to shift to another email client which can gracefully KS handle that load. Can we suggest a few tricks to make the bat! handle that load KS easily? He could see how important it is for him to keep all of the mail he's storing. He could use archive folders without purge and compress settings for older mail. He should see whether there are a lot of messages in his inboxes that he could store elsewhere too. Large high traffic folders tend to slow TB (and most other mail clients too). I don't know whether he does purge and compress on a regular base, if he doesn't then he should do so more often. If he has purge and compress all folders on exit, then he could disable that (provided he has the self discipline to do it regularly manually) He could upgrade to 2.12, that runs on the same license as 2.06 and can still be downloaded from the Ritlabs site. I'm not sure what that does to the speed, but there would be more people here being familiar with what can and cannot be done with his version. -- Groetjes, Roelof I'm never difficult...Impossible maybe, difficult, never. The Bat! 3.61.09 Echo (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpUenmmuzUNw.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat slowing down.
Hi, * K. Shantanu [EMAIL PROTECTED], Monday, October 3, 2005, 5:25:38 AM: Hi, I was an old user of The Bat!. I recommend it to my friends who use MS Windows. A friend of mine has windows XP, Mobile Pentium 4 , 2,2Ghz , 512MB RAM 40GB HDD has around 1.5 Gb of mails (approx. 50k messages) in around 4 accounts. But his The Bat! 2.00.6 si very slow to start and stop. He is getting tired with his delay and is planning to shift to another email client which can gracefully handle that load. Can we suggest a few tricks to make the bat! handle that load easily? Thanks in advance. Shantanu I have made the experience (with 2.12 and about half a million mails in one account, about 2GB together) that no single folder should contain more than +-3 mails. Any more than that, and TB slows down dramatically. Timo Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat slowing down.
On 10/3/2005 at 5:51:14 AM [GMT -0500], Timo Boettcher wrote: I have made the experience (with 2.12 and about half a million mails in one account, about 2GB together) that no single folder should contain more than +-3 mails. Any more than that, and TB slows down dramatically. May be true. What aggravates matters further is the failure to compress folders such as the Inbox and Outbox. -- -= Curtis =- The Bat! v3.61.09 Echo (Beta) / http://specs.aimlink.name PGPKey: http://rsakey.aimlink.name ...WORK: Something to do between breaks. pgpjDPsp1In9S.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat slowing down.
Hello K. Shantanu everyone else, on 03-Okt-2005 at 05:25 you (K. Shantanu ) wrote: A friend of mine has windows XP, Mobile Pentium 4 , 2,2Ghz , 512MB RAM 40GB HDD has around 1.5 Gb of mails (approx. 50k messages) in around 4 accounts. But his The Bat! 2.00.6 si very slow to start and stop. He is getting tired with his delay and is planning to shift to another email client which can gracefully handle that load. Can we suggest a few tricks to make the bat! handle that load easily? The most obvious thing to start with would be a folder maintenance. It should be run regularly (menu Folder, item Maintenance Center). TB is storing messages in a database. When you delete or move messages, this database will get an increasing number of holes. Folder maintenance can compress the database, thus close the holes, and make the files smaller. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat slowing down.
Hello K., Sunday, October 2, 2005, 8:25:38 PM, you wrote: KS I was an old user of The Bat!. I recommend it to my friends who KS use MS Windows. A friend of mine has windows XP, Mobile Pentium 4 KS , 2,2Ghz , 512MB RAM 40GB HDD has around 1.5 Gb of mails (approx. KS 50k messages) in around 4 accounts. But his The Bat! 2.00.6 si KS very slow to start and stop. He is getting tired with his delay KS and is planning to shift to another email client which can KS gracefully handle that load. Can we suggest a few tricks to make KS the bat! handle that load easily? My Bat! is very fast. My setup is comparable to your friend's. Specs below (1.7Ghz 768MB). I keep my mail database on it's own partition (4GB - 1.5GB free), and purge and compress on exit. Almost all my mail is filtered into folders on download. As others have suggested I would start with a folder maintenance. -- Best regards, Scottmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.12.00 under Windows XP Professional/5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 (0 days 3:0:22) on Uno AMD Athlon MP pgp key: http://sfrederick.com/keys/ Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
junk mail filter -- need some advice
Battyfolk, For a long time now I have been getting a piece of spam that I can't filter out it's really getting on my nerves. Message is entirely HTML w attachment There is no text spam comes in the form of a gif (name changes as well) All headers seem random X-Spam: [F=0.5893273767; heur=0.727(2800); stat=0.349; I've looked thru current crop of filters and can't seem to put anything together that works for this piece of trash. I was thinking of something along the lines of: any message with no text and attachment w from not in my address book move to junk file and mark read Anyone got an idea to throw my way? Thanks, -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB!3.61.09 Echo (Beta), BayesIt! 0.8.1, Windows 2000, Service Pack 4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Howto: set Reading Confirmation in template?
Cory wrote: Am I overlooking something? Can't find a way to do so for a per-folder template, no switch nor macro... You mean, beyond what the right-click/Properties gives you in tabs? -tom! -- Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rogues Updates
Hi On Wednesday 17 August 2005 at 5:36:53 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Alexander S. Kunz wrote: I download the R.M. archive about once a month and don't care for the rest of the updates. What we need are incremental updates! :-) How about a Rogues Server so that TB! could ask to connect to the server if an unknown handle was encountered? -- Best regards, MFPA I think not, said Descartes, and promptly disappeared Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: junk mail filter -- need some advice
Hello Jan Rifkinson everyone else, on 03-Okt-2005 at 20:07 you (Jan Rifkinson) wrote: Anyone got an idea to throw my way? This may not be what you wanted to hear, but... try K9 instead of the BayesIt plugin. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Be careful of reading health books, you might die of a misprint. -- Mark Twain Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rogues Updates
Hello MFPA everyone else, on 03-Okt-2005 at 22:25 you (MFPA) wrote: I download the R.M. archive about once a month and don't care for the rest of the updates. What we need are incremental updates! :-) How about a Rogues Server so that TB! could ask to connect to the server if an unknown handle was encountered? IIRC an early implementation worked like that. But it wasn't conform with TB's no contact to the outside world (other than for mail sending and retrieval) policy, and thus was, being regarded as a potential security and/or privacy issue, removed. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Look not mournfully into the past. It comes not back again. Wisely improve the present. It is thine. Go forth and meet the shadowy future, without fear, and with a manly heart. (Henry Wadsworth Longfellow) Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues Updates
Hello Alexander, Monday, October 3, 2005, 2:33:20 PM, you wrote: IIRC an early implementation worked like that. But it wasn't conform with TB's no contact to the outside world (other than for mail sending and retrieval) policy, and thus was, being regarded as a potential security and/or privacy issue, removed. Yep, you remember correctly. 9val and I worked out a system to do it and it worked quite well. However, it was turned off in TB after people stated they didn't like the possibility of nefarious uses by the bad guys. The webserver implementation is still up at: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/getrogue.php?id=:leif: Just replace :leif: with the handle you're looking for. It works for both roguemoticons and smileys. However, it doesn't do you much good since the functionality was turned off in TB. Maybe one day we can convince 9val to turn it on as optional. -- TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B __ Geocaching:http://gps.PCWize.com ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons Smileys:http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PHP Tutorials and snippets:http://www.DevTek.org Siskel and Ebert gave this tagline two thumbs up. Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Checking a URL in a composed m,essage
Hi On Saturday 17 September 2005 at 10:57:44 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Hello John Phillips everyone else, on 17-Sep-2005 at 23:26 you (John Phillips) wrote: When I post a URL whilst composing a message, I often want to check same to make sure I have not made a mistake; however this does not seem possible in the Edit Mail Message screen. Thats working fine over here. I'm using MicroEd. Here, example.com is not clickable unless I put the www. in front. -- Best regards, MFPA You're only young once; you can be immature forever Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Checking a URL in a composed m,essage
Hello MFPA everyone else, on 03-Okt-2005 at 23:33 you (MFPA) wrote: When I post a URL whilst composing a message, I often want to check same to make sure I have not made a mistake; however this does not seem possible in the Edit Mail Message screen. Thats working fine over here. I'm using MicroEd. Here, example.com is not clickable unless I put the www. in front. OK, it requires the www part. It would be a little too much to ask TB to interpret anything in the format of word-dot-word into an URL, would it? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) It does not matter if you fall down, as long as you pick something up from the floor when you get up. Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Checking a URL in a composed m,essage
Hello Alexander, Monday, October 3, 2005, 3:48:29 PM, you wrote: Here, example.com is not clickable unless I put the www. in front. OK, it requires the www part. It would be a little too much to ask TB to interpret anything in the format of word-dot-word into an URL, would it? No doubt... Can you imagine what atrocities would happen if I was posting VB or C# code and TB hyperlinked word.word? i.e. btn1.Text = Click Me; btn1.Location = new Point( 25, 15 ); -- TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B __ Geocaching:http://gps.PCWize.com ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons Smileys:http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PHP Tutorials and snippets:http://www.DevTek.org As I said before, I never repeat myself. Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
