Re: Bug: major severity, high priority - how long?
Hello Marten, On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 07:56:03 + GMT (01/12/2005, 14:56 +0700 GMT), Marten Gallagher wrote: MG The priority was raised to high by a TB person as far as I can tell: MG quote MG Marek Mikus - 29 Nov 2005 11:08 MG -- MG confirm and priority increased MG /quote MG http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5367 Marek has quite some influence, so your chances are good. Also, there are many bugreports, which usually increases the developers' attention. The only problem is that it hasn't been assigned to a developer yet. -- Cheers, Thomas. 24 Dinge, die man beim Sex nicht sagen sollte: 7. Hoffentlich siehst Du noch genauso aus, wenn ich wieder nuechtern bin! http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.62.14 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: folder password protection
Hello Jan Rifkinson everyone else, on 01-Dez-2005 at 00:41 you (Jan Rifkinson) wrote: Is it possible to set password protection at the folder level or is account level the limit? Its only possible on account level. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Look not mournfully into the past. It comes not back again. Wisely improve the present. It is thine. Go forth and meet the shadowy future, without fear, and with a manly heart. (Henry Wadsworth Longfellow) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
the bat! keeps closing, can't get to email
Hello everyone, all of a sudden, my bat keeps closing sporadically. i will sometimes see the bat minimized on the task bar but then it just disappears. this started happening today. my mail is pretty flakey right now, but if you know what to do or how to troubleshoot, please email me at mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] since I have a web based mail client there. Thanks so much for your assistance. -- Best regards, Laura mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: the bat! keeps closing, can't get to email
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED] everyone else, on 01-Dez-2005 at 18:55 you ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: all of a sudden, my bat keeps closing sporadically Please let us know first which version you are using. Or... want to use. :-} -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: the bat! keeps closing, can't get to email
Hello Alexander, Thursday, December 1, 2005, 10:10:07 AM, you wrote: ASK Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED] everyone else, ASK on 01-Dez-2005 at 18:55 you ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: all of a sudden, my bat keeps closing sporadically ASK Please let us know first which version you are using. Or... want to use. ASK :-} good point... its 3.5! i'm on XP SP2 and I've rebooted! I'm not sure if there is a log or anything that lets us know why... thanks! Laura (for some reason its stayed up for 10 minutes now!! -- Best regards, alistsmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: the bat! keeps closing, can't get to email
On Thursday, December 1, 2005, 11:55:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: all of a sudden, my bat keeps closing sporadically for a long time I had an installation where the presence of the BayesIt folder turned out to be the cause of TB! closing again each time while checking mail. This was true although I wasn't using BayesIt. As soon as I deleted or renamed the folder all was well, and whenever it got reinstalled by an MSI operation the problem recurred. It is no longer happening on that installation, but it would seem to be worth trying. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: the bat! keeps closing, can't get to email
Hello Laura everyone else, on 01-Dez-2005 at 19:17 you ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: its 3.5 Maybe you want to update to the most recent stable release version - you can download it from the Ritlabs homepage, it is version 3.62.14 (as the list footer shows). -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) de la Lastra's Law: After the last of 16 mounting screws has been removed from an access cover, it will be discovered that the wrong access cover has been removed. Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Bug: major severity, high priority - how long?
Hello Marten, On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 19:06:25 + GMT (01/12/2005, 02:06 +0700 GMT), Marten Gallagher wrote: However, severity is a very subjective thing; it might be a function that is crucial to your way of working, but which is hardly ever used by most people. So the priority has meaning for you, but the developers set their own priorities. I'm sorry but that is arrant tosh! You produce a product with functions - you then (inadvertently admittedly) break it - you can't hide behind well not many people use that function so let's not worry about it - you stop developing more functions and instead fix what you broke! Fitness for purpose is the UK legal test - currently TB fails that test. I'm sorry but I have remained tolerant over the past years - this is approaching a final straw. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.51.10 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: With IMAP how long should it take for TB! to close?
Hello Clive... On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 07:11:32 +, you wrote: Hello steverio, Wednesday, November 30, 2005, 11:28:26 PM, you wrote: It takes 4 seconds to close TB! when I use IMAP. It takes a split second to close with POP3. I have just responded to your other message. Some of us have to sleep you know :). This happens here but it's probably one of the least frustrating bugs in TB's current IMAP performance. It's probably the same phenomenon that makes TB so slow at fetching and displaying IMAP messages and part of the way the protocol is implemented in the prog. I perhaps should wait longer for replies sometimes! :) This happens to me when I get my mind set to follow through with a task. This relieves me somewhat to hear that the delayed closing is not just on my side but it also gives me *heads up* while I decide if I want to go with IMAP. I have one other email client that I'm trying IMAP with and it has no delay after closing. I hope this will improve with TB. Aside from what I read and hear the IMAP experience is new to me. -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: With IMAP how long should it take for TB! to close?
On Wednesday, November 30, 2005, 5:28:26 PM, steverio wrote: It takes 4 seconds to close TB! when I use IMAP. It takes a split second to close with POP3. Log says the IMAP session is finished before I close TB! down. *Question to IMAP users* How long does it take for you to close TB! with IMAP? I closely watched the shutting down pane a while ago. I have a number of old POP accounts where I no longer collect mail, and a large number of common folders where old mail continues to be archived. As the shutdown occurred a list of all those folders scrolled thru. That may have taken about 10 seconds. When it got to the IMAP part it was virtually done and gone. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: With IMAP how long should it take for TB! to close?
Hello Dwight... On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 13:28:25 -0600, you wrote: I closely watched the shutting down pane a while ago. I have a number of old POP accounts where I no longer collect mail, and a large number of common folders where old mail continues to be archived. As the shutdown occurred a list of all those folders scrolled thru. That may have taken about 10 seconds. When it got to the IMAP part it was virtually done and gone. With new perspectives here I should probably not query too loud of my measly 4 second delay on closing with IMAP! :) I've trimmed down on pack ratting mail and accounts. The mail I have saved for archiving is not too large. Mailing list email goes to a separate account in my Agent newsreader along with NG's. Including TB folder maintenance, I guess that is the best I can do to improve speed for now. -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Not sharing address book templates
My wife and I use the same computer and the same instance of TheBat. It wasn't always this way, but for the obvious reasons, I created a second account for her. In most New Message, Reply and Forward templates, for the signature, I have used the macros %FROMNAME or %FROMFNAME. However, for personal friends, I have typed my nickname as a literal. Since many of these friends are mutual friends, when my wife sends and e-mail note or replies to one or forwards one to one of our friends, the message includes my nickname that she needs to change manually. There does not seem to be an option to create a second address book for her account with different templates. Also, double entries for these friends with different display names, even if it will do the job, will be confusing. So, for those cases where the template uses my nickname, how can my wife steer clear or have her name or her %FROMFNAME (she has no nickname that I have discovered during the past 49+ years that I have known her)? Thanks. Leonard S. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat version 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatically adding secondary addresses not working?
On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 at 07:56:30 +0100, Fredrik wrote: On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 08:21:07 +1100 GMT, Robin wrote: Works for me, I just added one/two/three more addresses to the E-Mail addresses field and checked the box, when creating a new message (from the address book, with the entry selected) the addresses after the first one is added to BCC. Aha! The key thing is creating the new message from the address book. It also works for me when I do that. I had expected that when I put the person's name into the TO field, TB! would check against the address book, note the option was selected, and automatically include the secondary address in BCC. But it doesn't work like that. :( -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: the bat! keeps closing, can't get to email
Hello alists, Friday, December 2, 2005, 1:17:12 AM, you wrote: awc good point... its 3.5! This may be the version with the bug that has long been fixed. Please upgrade to the latest release. awc (for some reason its stayed up for 10 minutes now!! Maybe there was no mail check for 10 minutes. There is a particularly malformed message on your server, and whenever TB tries to download it, TB will close. Instead of downloading messages, you can also go to Account / Dispatch Messagees on Server / Unread only. You should be able to identify a message with a weird header and choose not to download that. The other messages will download fine now. -- Best regards, Thomas. Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bug: major severity, high priority - how long?
Hello Marten, On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 18:49:56 + GMT (02/12/2005, 01:49 +0700 GMT), Marten Gallagher wrote: MG I'm sorry but that is arrant tosh! You produce a product with functions - MG you then (inadvertently admittedly) break it - you can't hide behind well MG not many people use that function so let's not worry about it - you stop MG developing more functions and instead fix what you broke! You surely have to set priorites. Anyway, it's a beta that's what it is. I'm sure it will be fixed before the next release, because it's not a difficult task. MG Fitness for purpose is the UK legal test - currently TB fails that test. Well, it would pass with flying colours over here. Are we talking about the same issue: 0005367: Common folder templates and identity are not used for new messages If that's a show-stopper for you, I won't argue. For myself, it's a non-issue, that's why I didn't comment. You see, people work differently. -- Cheers, Thomas. FRISBEETARISM: The belief in when you die your spirit gets stuck on the roof http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Not sharing address book templates
Hello Leonard, On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 16:00:46 -0500 GMT (02/12/2005, 04:00 +0700 GMT), Leonard S. Berkowitz wrote: LSB So, for those cases where the template uses my nickname, how can my LSB wife steer clear or have her name or her %FROMFNAME (she has no LSB nickname that I have discovered during the past 49+ years that I have LSB known her)? For all your computer and TB know, there is only one user. How can it tell the two of you apart? -- Cheers, Thomas. I live in my own little world, but it's ok, they know me here. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: Not sharing address book templates)
On Thursday, December 1, 2005, 5:33:32 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MDP Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists MDP of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. MDP This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without MDP the signature and list footers since everything below and including MDP the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. Sorry about that. I created a new template based on what I saw on the web site and forgot the two dashes. Leonard Leonard S. Berkowitz -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
