Re: Splash Screen
Hallo Dean, On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 01:34:14 -0600GMT (23-12-2005, 8:34 +0100, where I live), you wrote: D -- D Cheers, Please correct you signature delimiter. It's supposed to be dash, dash, space, enter, but yours is starting with a space and it won't work properly in that case. -- Groetjes, Roelof It compiled? First screen came up? Ship it!! - Bill Gates The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpUa5nxsPDBu.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Strange filtering on IMAP account
Greetings, 09:45, Thursday, December 22, 2005 I recently moved from a POP to an IMAP mail server. The setup seemed to go fairly easy, but my incoming mail filters now behave strangely on the IMAP account. Sometimes they don't run and I must run then manually. If they are supposed to mark a message as read, the last message put in a folder is never marked as read. I upgraded from 3.62 to the latest version, but that didn't help. Further, the IMAP message counts are wrong. Currently they show I have 11 unread out of 31 total in the input folder, when in fact 29 have been moved to other folders and the two remaining have both been read. I've turned off all synchronization, so that's not it. The count corrects itself if I compress the folder. Any ideas? -- Gary -- Quintessential is now playing: Lee Ritenour - A Little Bumpin' -- Random Tagline -- Press any key to continue or any other key to quit... Mail Handler : ^o^ The_Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition ^o^ The OS: Windows XP 5.1, Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Spam Filter : Achim's Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.2. Gatekeeper: Sygate Personal Firewall v5.5. Virus Sniffer : Symantec Corporate Edition v9.0. Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Installing version 3.64 *PRO* edition
Hallo Perry, On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 21:54:13 -0500GMT (23-12-2005, 3:54 +0100, where I live), you wrote: PN Now, assuming all those things, what do I do next? Can I safely PN install the Pro edition over the Home edition, without uninstalling PN the Home edition first? I *do* want to install OTFE when I install the PN Pro edition. You can switch to pro without doing anything, you don't even have to install again, because the executable in both versions is the same, the pro features are being unleashed by the pro-key, not by the install file you've used. The only difference between the two installation files is that the pro file contains the international pack, while the home version needs that to be downloaded separately. However, when you want to switch to OTFE (On The Fly Encryption), it's not that easy. TB cannot encrypt an existing unencrypted message base, It can only start with OTFE while you're still without message base. What this means is that in order to switch to OTFE, you need to make a full TB-style back-up. Afterwards you need to uninstall TB. And delete/move your message base. (Last time I uninstalled TB left the message base in it's place, just as I think it should) Next you install TB. At the end of the install or the start of TB's first run, it'll ask you about OTFE and you enable that, the password you're giving then is important, because without that password your data are lost forever. Amd on the question whether you'd like to create a new account or restore from backup, you restore from backup. After restoring from backup you quit TB and restart it (otherwise your restored preferences won't be loaded). That's about it. Oh yes. When you're using TB in multiple user accounts in Windows, you need to realize that to change another account than you used for the uninstalling from plain to OTFE you'll need to remove the full HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat! tree from your registry in that account. Because the uninstall routine only deletes that for the active account during install. (Yes, actually that means that you don't have to uninstall. Just a backup and removing both the message base and the proper registry entries will prompt TB to ask about OTFE too.) And since I've typed this story for the umptieth time, I'm creating a QT for it. -- Groetjes, Roelof I can resist everything except temptation. The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpkW8lu7sY7T.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem with font sizes in signatures
Hello, Something in my setup causes any HTML email to override the preferences settings and cause the signature (or any text) to Courier New 9 even though my default settings are for courier new 10. If I change the font it is always in size 9. If I change the style to normal it resets to size 10 correctly. It occurs with our without the -- designation. If I remove all text from the template then it correctly sizes the font. The only macros are %bcc and %cursor Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Gray Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Shortcuts all messed up and how to do
Dear Bats Yikes. I just installed the Christmas Edition following an advertisting email from Ritlabs. No all my dozens of carefully crafted shortcuts are gone. Having gone carefully through messages on the list I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get them back. I can get into the customize box, but what then Someone please run me through a sequence of events that will get (as a case example) a shortcut (say Shift-Control-1 to assign a predefined color group to a message). Alternatively how do I get back to where I was before. What a mess, and the helpfile bears no relation to reality. And even the shortcuts that I seem to be able to assign don't work (so if I assign control R to mark a message Read, it still opens the message for a reply despite altering the apparent shortcut stated on the right click menu (and even after removing the shortcut from the previously designated ^R). Wish I hadn't installed this. My previous version 3.01 was wonderful and stable. Now I have hours of disaster on my hands. -- Mark Windows : Windows XP Service Pack 2 Build 2600 Bat Version 3.64.01 Christmas Edition Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
I can't understand how the Windows-like editor works, as far as line wrapping is concerned. In my viewer/editor|editor preferences dialog box, it says: General (common for all editors) Wrap text at 72 characters But if I write a message using the Windows-like editor, lines wrappings get lost as soon as I save the message. Then, recipients get a message with lines as long as the whole paragraph. Help file doesn't help. Can't find faqs or bug reports about this. (Christmas Edition) Tnx. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with font sizes in signatures
Hallo Security, On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 23:40:25 -0800GMT (23-12-2005, 8:40 +0100, where I live), you wrote: SR Something in my setup causes any HTML email Options - Preferences - HTML/Windows editor -- Groetjes, Roelof Every person constructs their own bed of nails. The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp17ZPG7403X.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Cut mark (was: Problem with font sizes in signatures)
Hallo Security, On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 23:40:25 -0800GMT (23-12-2005, 8:40 +0200, where I live), you wrote: SR Thanks, SR Gray SR SR Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Security. ' Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added to your signature by the list server. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof Being a moderator is nice but it interferes with my life. pgp06vZcnk05m.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Installing version 3.64 *PRO* edition
Hi Nick, Thursday, December 22, 2005, 11:29:30 PM, you wrote: I *do* want to install OTFE when I install the Pro edition. NA It has been a while since purchasing TB Pro, but you might need your NA eToken to open TB Pro. Have you received your as yet? If so, have NA you installed the drivers for your eToken? If I understand correctly, an eToken is an option not a necessity, for using The Bat! Pro edition. Am I wrong? I have received my registration from RitLabs, but I did not order an eToken. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Installing version 3.64 *PRO* edition
Hi Roelof, Friday, December 23, 2005, 4:16:29 AM, you wrote: RO And since I've typed this story for the umptieth time, I'm creating a RO QT for it. Thank you for the help, Roelof. I'm sorry to have caused you to have to repeat these instructions yet again but pleased that I provided a stimulus for your creating a QT for them so you won't ever have to do it again. I'll follow your instructions and, if I encounter problems, will report them so that you can fine tune your QT, in the unlikely event that is needed. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Installing version 3.64 *PRO* edition
Hallo Perry, On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 07:11:27 -0500GMT (23-12-2005, 13:11 +0100, where I live), you wrote: PN If I understand correctly, an eToken is an option not a necessity, for PN using The Bat! Pro edition. Am I wrong? You've understood that correctly. An eToken isn't necessary for the pro version, not even for OTFE. -- Groetjes, Roelof Mr. Bullfrog says: Time is fun when you're having flies. The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp4VmCrj3ocH.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Splash Screen
Hello Dean, A couple of versions back I started to have the Gray background for splash screen. it seems you integrated the Minimal Design Splash. Anyone have suggestions as to how I can get the splash background back to normal - or have a different one I can use besides this bat on a gray back ground? If the Batlogo.xml is in the directory, the internal pictures are ignored, and the specifications from the external XML are used. If you liked to see the internal pictures from TheBat!, please delete the Batlogo.xml. -- Best regards Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu News-Ticker: http://thebat.zetema.de/bat-mail.xml Klipfolio Klip: http://thebat.zetema.de/klipfolio Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Installing version 3.64 *PRO* edition
Hi Roelof and all the list, On Friday, December 23, 2005 at 1:28:35 PM, Roelof Otten wrote: PN If I understand correctly, an eToken is an option not a necessity, for PN using The Bat! Pro edition. Am I wrong? You've understood that correctly. An eToken isn't necessary for the pro version, not even for OTFE. I upgraded (well, it's an upgrade as I don't see any difference between the Home and the Pro version right now) on december and wondered how to activate OTFE. Can someone explain that to me? It's not on the new help file. TIA. -- Ludovic LE MOAL The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows 98 4.10 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange filtering on IMAP account
Hello Gary, Thursday, December 22, 2005, 9:10:09 AM, you wrote: GL I recently moved from a POP to an IMAP mail server. The setup seemed to go GL fairly easy, but my incoming mail filters now behave strangely on the IMAP GL account. Sometimes they don't run and I must run then manually. If they are GL supposed to mark a message as read, the last message put in a folder is GL never marked as read. I upgraded from 3.62 to the latest version, but that GL didn't help. GL Further, the IMAP message counts are wrong. Currently they show I have 11 GL unread out of 31 total in the input folder, when in fact 29 have been moved GL to other folders and the two remaining have both been read. I've turned off GL all synchronization, so that's not it. The count corrects itself if I GL compress the folder. These are known issues with IMAP in TB! at the moment. Your best hope is to keep up with the beta versions as they come out and hope for improvements. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
Hello Luca, Friday, December 23, 2005, 5:53:01 AM, you wrote: L I can't understand how the Windows-like editor works, as far as line wrapping L is concerned. L In my viewer/editor|editor preferences dialog box, it says: L General (common for all editors) L Wrap text at 72 characters L But if I write a message using the Windows-like editor, lines wrappings get L lost as soon as I save the message. Then, recipients get a message with lines L as long as the whole paragraph. L Help file doesn't help. Can't find faqs or bug reports about this. IF you find out let me know. I asked this question before and got no replies. It seems to depend on the size of the window you are in and totally ignores the 72 character limit. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Installing version 3.64 *PRO* edition
Hello Roelof, Friday, December 23, 2005, 3:16:29 AM, you wrote: RO And since I've typed this story for the umptieth time, I'm creating a RO QT for it. I just received my pro key and I will print your message so I don't have to get you to send it to me. ;) -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Installing version 3.64 *PRO* edition
Hello Ludovic! On Friday, December 23, 2005, 7:34 AM, you wrote: I upgraded (well, it's an upgrade as I don't see any difference between the Home and the Pro version right now) on december and wondered how to activate OTFE. Can someone explain that to me? It's not on the new help file. (The new help file was written before OTFE and Customise, among other new features, were completely finished.) Roelof just got through telling how on TBUDL. I saved the message--here's a copy-and-paste from Roelof's explanation: However, when you want to switch to OTFE (On The Fly Encryption), it's not that easy. TB cannot encrypt an existing unencrypted message base, It can only start with OTFE while you're still without message base. What this means is that in order to switch to OTFE, you need to make a full TB-style back-up. Afterwards you need to uninstall TB. And delete/move your message base. (Last time I uninstalled TB left the message base in it's place, just as I think it should) Next you install TB. At the end of the install or the start of TB's first run, it'll ask you about OTFE and you enable that, the password you're giving then is important, because without that password your data are lost forever. Amd on the question whether you'd like to create a new account or restore from backup, you restore from backup. After restoring from backup you quit TB and restart it (otherwise your restored preferences won't be loaded). That's about it. Oh yes. When you're using TB in multiple user accounts in Windows, you need to realize that to change another account than you used for the uninstalling from plain to OTFE you'll need to remove the full HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat! tree from your registry in that account. Because the uninstall routine only deletes that for the active account during install. (Yes, actually that means that you don't have to uninstall. Just a backup and removing both the message base and the proper registry entries will prompt TB to ask about OTFE too.) And since I've typed this story for the umptieth time, I'm creating a QT for it. -- :) HTH -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Installing version 3.64 *PRO* edition
Hello Mary! On Friday, December 23, 2005, 8:35 AM, you wrote: I upgraded (well, it's an upgrade as I don't see any difference between the Home and the Pro version right now) on december and wondered how to activate OTFE. Can someone explain that to me? It's not on the new help file. ... ... (The new help file was written before OTFE and Customise, among other new features, were completely finished.) Sorry for this big boo-boo that I made. Somehow in trying to get the CP from Roelof in, I put my own comment about the new Help File and the lack of directions for installing Pro's OTFE feature and for utilizing all the many parts of the Customise feature, in the wrong place. I got my comment into my quote from Ludovic. My bad. :( Roelof just got through telling how on TBUDL. I saved the message--here's a copy-and-paste from Roelof's explanation: ... :woe: My apologies, Ludovic, and all. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Smileys
Hello tbudl, I have moved to a new computer and my smileys aren't working. Could someone remind me where the info is. I have the smileys downloaded but they don't show up. BTW the info does not appear to be in the new help file. -- Stuart mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Stuart! On Friday, December 23, 2005, 8:57 AM, you wrote: I have moved to a new computer and my smileys aren't working. Could someone remind me where the info is. I have the smileys downloaded but they don't show up. BTW the info does not appear to be in the new help file. Get the right-click context menu from the message body while you're focused on that incoming message. Be sure Use Plain Text Viewer is not ticked. Be sure the box beside Smileys *is* ticked. Be sure that you unpacked the Smileys zip file into The Bat!/Images and not into any subfolder. In Images you should have only: Default pcwimages rogues default.msl pcwsmileys.msl rogues.msl Can't think of anything else. Very sorry to hear of omission of Smileys settings instructions in the new Help File. Perhaps that can be remedied next year. -- Best regards, Mary PCWSmileys Administrator The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys
Howdy Mary, Friday, December 23, 2005, 3:42:31 PM, Mary wrotened: I have moved to a new computer and my smileys aren't working. Could someone remind me where the info is. I have the smileys downloaded but they don't show up. BTW the info does not appear to be in the new help file. Mary Get the right-click context menu from the message body while you're Mary focused on that incoming message. Be sure Use Plain Text Viewer is Mary not ticked. Be sure the box beside Smileys *is* ticked. Mary Be sure that you unpacked the Smileys zip file into The Bat!/Images Mary and not into any subfolder. In Images you should have only: Mary Default Mary pcwimages Mary rogues Mary default.msl Mary pcwsmileys.msl Mary rogues.msl Mary Can't think of anything else. Mary Very sorry to hear of omission of Smileys settings instructions in the Mary new Help File. Mary Perhaps that can be remedied next year. In order to view smilies you have to read your mail in the RTF format. -- Have Fun, Stan the Almighty! [EMAIL PROTECTED] crashing The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz 598 MHz 1.00GB RAM You know, I think the sun may be the biggest thing in the world. Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Ben! On Friday, December 23, 2005, 9:50 AM, you wrote: In order to view smilies you have to read your mail in the RTF format. Well, that's what being sure Use Plain Text Viewer isn't ticked in the right-click (context) menu will ensure. It can also be set in Options/Preferences, of course, and the Smiley box ticked in that window. And, of course, since MicroEd is a plain-text editor, Smiley icons are never visible in the Edit Mail Message window, using MicroEd. -- Best regards, Mary, PCWSmileys Administrator The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Installing version 3.64 *PRO* edition
Hi Roelof, Friday, December 23, 2005, 4:16:29 AM, you wrote: RO However, when you want to switch to OTFE (On The Fly Encryption), it's RO not that easy. Just a note to let you know that I've have successfully installed v3.64.01 PRO and it is running in OTFE. Thank you for your help. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 OTFE Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
After installing v3.64.01 PRO with OTFE, AVG plugin missing
Hello Everyone, As noted in my message a moment ago, I have successfully installed the Pro version of The Bat! v3.64.01, but now the AVG7 (free) plug-in is not installed. I am able to locate where it should be under Options / Preferences / Plug-ins, but when I choose Add there are no plug-ins listed under The Bat! nor under the AVG7 folder. I have searched my computer for *.tbp and find only the Bayesit.tbp file in The Bat! folder. I presume that when I un-installed The Bat! in order to get the OTFE I also un-installed the AVG7 plug-in. Can someone please direct me to the location where I can download that plugin? I have already looked on http://www.ritlabs.com and on http://free.grisoft.com/doc/1 without success. Thank you. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 OTFE Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: After installing v3.64.01 PRO with OTFE, AVG plugin missing
Hello all, Friday, December 23, 2005, Perry Nelson wrote: As noted in my message a moment ago, I have successfully installed the Pro version of The Bat! v3.64.01, but now the AVG7 (free) plug-in is not installed. I am able to locate where it should be under Options / Preferences / Plug-ins, but when I choose Add there are no plug-ins listed under The Bat! nor under the AVG7 folder. I have searched my computer for *.tbp and find only the Bayesit.tbp file in The Bat! folder. I presume that when I un-installed The Bat! in order to get the OTFE I also un-installed the AVG7 plug-in. Can someone please direct me to the location where I can download that plugin? I have already looked on http://www.ritlabs.com and on http://free.grisoft.com/doc/1 without success. plugin is stored in AVG's directory and has extension *.BAV, *.TBP are plugins with macros and antispam. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
On 23/12/2005 at 6:53:01 AM [GMT -0500], Luca wrote: I can't understand how the Windows-like editor works, as far as line wrapping is concerned. TB!'s original editor was microEd. It does no virtual wrapping of text. As MicroEd wraps text, it's hard wrapped. You'll see what I mean if after typing a few lines of text with MicroEd, you copy paste it to notepad and then toggle NotePads line wrapping on and off. Because of MicroEd's ability, TB! never did have a wrap on send feature. The Windows editor, like most other editors for Windows, virtual wraps as you edit, using the specified character limit in the options. If you copy a few lines of text you've typed in the Windows editor and paste it in NotePad, you'll note that the text isn't *really* wrapped. So, on sending, the text is sent formatted as is, i.e., with no wrapping. -- -= Curtis =- The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition / http://specs.aimlink.name PGPKey: http://rsakey.aimlink.name ...Honey, PLEASE don't pick up the [EMAIL PROTECTED]$^(#@$^%(*NO CARRIER Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: After installing v3.64.01 PRO with OTFE, AVG plugin missing
Hi Marek, Friday, December 23, 2005, 12:02:40 PM, you wrote: MM plugin is stored in AVG's directory and has extension *.BAV, *.TBP are MM plugins with macros and antispam. Thanks for your response. Please see my PM with screen shots of the error I'm getting when I try to apply the avgbat.bav file. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition (with OTFE) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
Curtis: The Windows editor, like most other editors for Windows, virtual wraps as you edit, using the specified character limit in the options. If you copy a few lines of text you've typed in the Windows editor and paste it in NotePad, you'll note that the text isn't *really* wrapped. So, on sending, the text is sent formatted as is, i.e., with no wrapping. That means that TB's Windows-like editor is useless, plain and simple. If there is no way to send messages with correct line wrapping, one can't use it, and I can't see any point in putting it in. I myself got used to MicroEd, with time, but a friend of mine, coming from Outlook, of course he can't bear alt+l, nor the auto-format feature the way it works in MicroEd. He *needs* a Windows-like text editor, and I myself would like a lot to get rid of alt+l. If a way to put hard returns in the right place before sending can't be found, with the Windows-like editor, then I'd say that TB has three editors but none of them is completely usable. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
On 23/12/2005 at 12:36:18 PM [GMT -0500], Luca wrote: That means that TB's Windows-like editor is useless, plain and simple. If there is no way to send messages with correct line wrapping, one can't use it, and I can't see any point in putting it in. Depends on perspective I guess. Though my sentiments are as yours, there are those who believe sent lines should not be wrapped. In this way, the recipient can view the lines whichever way he wishes. In fact, there's a new RFC that tries to address this issue of line wrapping that works for all, i.e., sender and recipient. I myself got used to MicroEd, with time, but a friend of mine, coming from Outlook, of course he can't bear alt+l, nor the auto-format feature the way it works in MicroEd. He *needs* a Windows-like text editor, and I myself would like a lot to get rid of alt+l. Unlike the Windows editor that handles like 'standard' Windows editors, it doesn't really work. However, MicroEd *works*, but has an unfamiliar handle to it. What made me grow accustomed to MicroEds quirky handling was the fact it works extremely well for e-mail formatting. You can trust that what you see in front of you is what the recipient will get. If a way to put hard returns in the right place before sending can't be found, with the Windows-like editor, then I'd say that TB has three editors but none of them is completely usable. The only way to do that is manually, sort of like in the old days of mechanical type writers. You don't have a 'ching' sound to give you the cue, but you could use set the Window width to the desired line length. :) -- -= Curtis =- The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition / http://specs.aimlink.name PGPKey: http://rsakey.aimlink.name ...I have enough trouble single-tasking! Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: After installing v3.64.01 PRO with OTFE, AVG plugin missing
Howdy Perry, Friday, December 23, 2005, 5:30:40 PM, Perry wrotened: PN Hi Marek, PN Friday, December 23, 2005, 12:02:40 PM, you wrote: MM plugin is stored in AVG's directory and has extension *.BAV, *.TBP are MM plugins with macros and antispam. PN Thanks for your response. Please see my PM with screen shots of the PN error I'm getting when I try to apply the avgbat.bav file. I dont know if this is related but when I started up the bat today it had a constant window opening about avg plugin update, complete with non filling progress meter. I closed the bat and rebooted, and now all is well. -- Have Fun, Benedict Allen Ben is Rohop mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Rap is crap, rock is great, we all have come here bound by fate, high school sucked but were still alive, were the class of 2005! Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: After installing v3.64.01 PRO with OTFE, AVG plugin missing
Hi Ben, Friday, December 23, 2005, 1:19:53 PM, you wrote: BA I dont know if this is related but when I started up the bat today BA it had a constant window opening about avg plugin update, complete BA with non filling progress meter. BA I closed the bat and rebooted, and now all is well. Thanks for the reply, Ben, but that doesn't seem to be my problem. As the subject says, the AVG plug-in was there before I upgraded but it isn't there now. When I try to use the file Marek suggested, I get a message that says, Could not initialize the plug-in. It either has some internal problems or it cannot be qualified as a plug-in. This error occurs when I try to type avgbat.bav into the window that seems to be looking for a *.tbp file (and apparently only a *.tbp file) from the Options / Preferences / Plug-ins / Add screen. So although I have the file that is supposed to be the AVG plug-in file, this newest version doesn't like it and won't accept it. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition (with OTFE) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
Hello Luca everyone else, on 23-Dez-2005 at 12:53 you (Luca) wrote: But if I write a message using the Windows-like editor, lines wrappings get lost as soon as I save the message. Then, recipients get a message with lines as long as the whole paragraph. I'm not sure but from my POV it is correct that there are no hard linebreaks in these messages. However, TB doesn't add the correct Content-Type header for this type of messages (from which the recipients MUA can determine that it should wrap the lines accordingly). Content-Type: text/plain; charset=whatever; format=flowed; delsp=yes Help file doesn't help. Can't find faqs or bug reports about this. Here's the bug report: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5016 Please add a supporting note to it. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) From whence then could arise the solitary and strange conceit, that the almighty, who had millions of worlds equally dependant on his protection, should quit the care of all the rest, because they say one woman and one man had eaten an apple! -- Thomas Paine Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Update on AVG plug-in
Hello Everyone, I went to my control panel for AVG Free and there I found an activate button for email scanning. When I clicked it, that seems to have resolved the issue I was having with AVG Free not being set up to scan email ... I think/hope. In any event, all looks like it is back to normal. Thanks to all who replied. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition (with OTFE) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Update on AVG plug-in
On 23/12/2005 at 2:16:53 PM [GMT -0500], Perry Nelson wrote: I went to my control panel for AVG Free and there I found an activate button for email scanning. When I clicked it, that seems to have resolved the issue I was having with AVG Free not being set up to scan email ... I think/hope. In any event, all looks like it is back to normal. When the situation is bizarre, just a patient wait and often the problem works its way out since it was some normal setting overlooked. :) Good that it was something simple like that. Cheers! -- -= Curtis =- The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition / http://specs.aimlink.name PGPKey: http://rsakey.aimlink.name ...Abandon all hope ye who have entered cyberspace. Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Update on AVG plug-in
Hi Curtis, Friday, December 23, 2005, 2:23:47 PM, you wrote: C When the situation is bizarre, just a patient wait and often the C problem works its way out since it was some normal setting C overlooked. :) Yes, that is often embarrassingly true. I must say I find it strange referring to you Curtis after having known you as Allie for so long, though I understand why you made the change. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition (with OTFE) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: After installing v3.64.01 PRO with OTFE, AVG plugin missing
Hello all, Friday, December 23, 2005, Perry Nelson wrote: MM plugin is stored in AVG's directory and has extension *.BAV, *.TBP are MM plugins with macros and antispam. Thanks for your response. Please see my PM with screen shots of the error I'm getting when I try to apply the avgbat.bav file. The Bat! has two APIs, common (macros, antispam) and for antivirus plugins, You are adding antivirus BAV via dialog for common TBP plugins. So, select Anti-virus section and click Add here. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: After installing v3.64.01 PRO with OTFE, AVG plugin missing
Hi Marek, Friday, December 23, 2005, 2:54:17 PM, you wrote: MM You are adding antivirus BAV via dialog for common TBP plugins. You are absolutely right. Please see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] where I report that I found the resolution. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition (with OTFE) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: LDAP connection
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Alexander, Thursday, December 22, 2005, 9:10:22 PM, you wrote: They administrators are a PITA and are so M$ orientated they have no idea what LDAP is, let alone what the connection is needed to it. They should know. MS Active Directory is LDAP based and offers similar functionality. :-) I know that you know that. They either don't or they don't want to tell me. - -- TTFN, ___ David |David Elliott| Software Engineer| _| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID 0x650F4534 | | You really ARE a pervert! - Odo 'Till the day I DIE! - Quark | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8 ckt Comment: Signed, Sealed, Delivered. :) iQA/AwUBQ6xmVfmK8eZlD0U0EQLlfwCdEZUlHAOatVnje30z1m3sXPYYqLYAoNmV gGLy0etHMG8Z9vNepnAQLRgZ =OhZh -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Update on AVG plug-in
On 23/12/2005 at 2:38:29 PM [GMT -0500], Perry Nelson wrote: I must say I find it strange referring to you Curtis after having known you as Allie for so long, though I understand why you made the change. I understand. It was a transition for me too, and one that has finally passed. It seems natural to me now. :) -- -= Curtis =- The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition / http://specs.aimlink.name PGPKey: http://rsakey.aimlink.name ...Sense is not cognition but sensation. (Douglas Robinson) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: LDAP connection
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Robin, Thursday, December 22, 2005, 8:58:35 PM, you wrote: ... As usual as soon as I set my mind to do something I find that I know more about a subject than the experts. What did you find out? Don't have the details on me ATM and I won't be back into work until Jan How did you do it? Viewing the source of emails and finding /O=/OU=XX/CN=XX/CN=/CN=XX/CN=X Was a big help. I have now annoyed the teckys - -- Bye, ___ David |David Elliott| Software Engineer| _| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID 0x650F4534 | | Stupidity is NOT a handicap! PARK ELSEWHERE! | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8 ckt Comment: Signed, Sealed, Delivered. :) iQA/AwUBQ6xoEPmK8eZlD0U0EQKLQACfTiRiMLk2rrM7r29Acmae2sTD9DsAoNKC 0lGDmtAUZX7kQGzhN1pWA7WT =oY9e -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: LDAP connection
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Chris, Thursday, December 22, 2005, 8:45:23 PM, you wrote: They administrators are a PITA and are so M$ orientated they have no idea what LDAP is, let alone what the connection is needed to it. They're probably just to lazy to actually learn the technology operating their servers fully. Yep. Active Directory (which they are probably using) They are is, in fact, a LDAP server, with a few additions (but it is still more or less compatible). I know. However I have done a bit of digging and I think that I have the info I need, much to the annoyance of system administrators who said it was not possible. Well, if you need more information from them, just change your vocabulary. Ask them about Organization Units. Well at first they stopped talking to me. But now some of them are asking me things. - -- Regards, ___ David |David Elliott| Software Engineer| _| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID 0x650F4534 | | FIDO lie #X Internet/UUCP gateways work. | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8 ckt Comment: Signed, Sealed, Delivered. :) iQA/AwUBQ6xpF/mK8eZlD0U0EQKx4QCffJ5W/q5QvPVn3QQs0G4GlYcT65oAmwd4 3Ri0HCvDUAwzu8JlAmLbaCM3 =Fcko -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys
Hello Mary, Friday, December 23, 2005, 9:42:31 AM, you wrote: MB Get the right-click context menu from the message body while you're MB focused on that incoming message. Be sure Use Plain Text Viewer is MB not ticked. Be sure the box beside Smileys *is* ticked. Yes this was the problem. Thanks for the help. The only thing that could have made it better was to have included a smiley in the message, then I would have immediately known that it was working. ;) Best wishes for the Holidays. :bearhug: -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Stuart! On Friday, December 23, 2005, 5:24 PM, you wrote: MB Get the right-click context menu from the message body while MB you're focused on that incoming message. Be sure Use Plain MB Text Viewer is not ticked. Be sure the box beside Smileys *is* MB ticked. Yes this was the problem. Thanks for the help. The only thing that could have made it better was to have included a smiley in the message, then I would have immediately known that it was working. ;) I'm going to make a QT of what I posted to you and include a Smiley in it. ;) Thanks for the tip. :thankyou: You're not the first and won't be the last to forget what to do to implement the Smiley icons. In fact, every time I get the question--and I get this PM as well as on-lists, because of my role as Trill, Keeper of the Smileys--I have to think carefully about all the ways I've seen it go wrong in the past. Glad what I said to you was clear and useful. :) Best wishes for the Holidays. :bearhug: To you, too! To you, too! :batbeer: -- Best regards, Mary, PCWSmileys Administrator The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Anti-spam system recommendations
Could anyone using multiple POP3 accounts with The Bat, tell me what anti=spam system they use and could you provide a four or five word recommendation? -- Please help get this bug sorted: go to https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5367 and have a moan for PLEASE Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Anti-spam system recommendations
Friday, December 23, 2005, 6:33:16 PM, you wrote: MG Could anyone using multiple POP3 accounts with The Bat, tell me what MG anti=spam system they use and could you provide a four or five word recommendation? Popfile works well, is also a pre processor and does mail sorting. -- Lou --- __@ -- _-\,_ --- (_)/ (_) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
G'day Mary, Saturday, December 24, 2005, 1:42:31 AM, you wrote: Hello Stuart! On Friday, December 23, 2005, 8:57 AM, you wrote: Very sorry to hear of omission of Smileys settings instructions in the new Help File. Perhaps that can be remedied next year. It is already included in the new help file - under the heading Roguemoticons and PCWSmileys. I found it by doing a search for emoticons. -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys
Hello Bob, Friday, December 23, 2005, 6:27:34 PM, you wrote: It is already included in the new help file - under the heading Roguemoticons and PCWSmileys. I found it by doing a search for emoticons. Hmmm, a search on Smileys did not work. Well at least it is there, I guess it just needs to add Smiley to the search list. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Anti-spam system recommendations
Hi Marten, On Fri, 23 Dec 2005, at 23:33:16 [GMT+] (which was Sat, 10:33:16 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: Could anyone using multiple POP3 accounts with The Bat, tell me what anti=spam system they use and could you provide a four or five word recommendation? K9 is excellent free as well. http://www.keir.net/k9.html -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Instead of getting married again, I'm going to find a woman I don't like and just give her a house. Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Anti-spam system recommendations
Marten Gallagher wrote: Could anyone using multiple POP3 accounts with The Bat, tell me what anti=spam system they use and could you provide a four or five word recommendation? I've said it before and I'll say it again. http://www.0spam.com It's the only spam solution you will ever need. The developers are very responsive to feature requests as well. You can use it for free, or give 'em $12 a year if you like them; the core functionality is the same and only a larger spam cache if you pay. I use PopFile also, but only for giving hints to TB for which folder various pieces of mail should go to. -tom! -- Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Anti-spam system recommendations
Hello Marten, Friday, December 23, 2005, 3:33:16 PM, you wrote: MG Could anyone using multiple POP3 accounts with The Bat, tell me what MG anti=spam system they use and could you provide a four or five word recommendation? K9 worked good for me when I used it. I now have all my mail filtered through barracuda network servers. If at all possible by you it seems the ideal way to deal with spam is from the server. But I know this isnt always an option. I have also been testing out AGAVA for the bat with my other email accounts. Its working out pretty good. http://www.antispamservant.com/bat_plugin.shtml -- Darrin Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Bob! On Friday, December 23, 2005, 6:27 PM, you wrote: Very sorry to hear of omission of Smileys settings instructions in the new Help File. Perhaps that can be remedied next year. It is already included in the new help file - under the heading Roguemoticons and PCWSmileys. I found it by doing a search for emoticons. Thank you so very much. I am greatly relieved, as I did feel that it should have been included--I saw it in the draft that was made available to the TBBETA list last spring. :thankyou: -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys
Hello Stuart! On Friday, December 23, 2005, 6:29 PM, you wrote: It is already included in the new help file - under the heading Roguemoticons and PCWSmileys. I found it by doing a search for emoticons. Hmmm, a search on Smileys did not work. Well at least it is there, I guess it just needs to add Smiley to the search list. Probably a simple change in the text, making Smileys a stand-alone word would do it. One of us can bring it up on TBBETA in January. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
