Replying to messages
Dear All, I have an ongoing problem which affects all accounts. If I reply to a message where my e-mail was only in the CC not the TO field the reply is created with the FROM address set to be the e-mail that was in the TO field of the original message. Any suggestions as to what causes this and how to prevent it. It has caused some embarrassment when Ia reply I sent was taken as coming from someone else! -- PJ Using TB! v3.65.03 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: All of a sudden getting Unable to insert a line error messages
Hallo David, On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:44:11 -0600GMT (19-1-2006, 5:44 +0100, where I live), you wrote: D The Bat! been working perfectly since forever; and now, all of a D sudden tonight, it gives me the error windows - it seems to fire up D one error message when my connection center fires up, and then I get D two when the connection center closes, whether I have new email or D not. What did you change on your system? In case you're running Win XP, does it help when you restore a restore point? D Any idea what's happening? Any idea what that error message even D means? I haven't got any clue what error messages you're getting, so I'm absolute clueless about their meaning. So copy and paste your error messages into a message, so that we can see them. D Is it time to bite the bullet and move into version 3? That's up to you and shouldn't be influenced by an error like this, but only by your need for v3 possibilities like customizable interface, new filtering system, etc. -- Groetjes, Roelof Don't forget to close your eyes when reading a scary book The Bat! 3.65.02 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpB23olW9aRb.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Replying to messages
Hallo Paul, On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:10:50 +GMT (19-1-2006, 10:10 +0100, where I live), you wrote: PJ I have an ongoing problem which affects all accounts. If I reply to a PJ message where my e-mail was only in the CC not the TO field the reply PJ is created with the FROM address set to be the e-mail that was in the PJ TO field of the original message. It looks like you're using a reply template that has something like this in it: %From=%OTo or %SetHeader(From,%OTo) As that's not TB's default, it's likely that you've doe this yourself. PJ It has caused some embarrassment when Ia reply I sent was taken as PJ coming from someone else! I can imagine. ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof WinErr: 019 User error - Not our fault. Is Not! Is Not! The Bat! 3.65.02 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpu4N8KtCtQ6.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Dual address books
Hello one and all, Since I have two different address books for the two accounts, why does the CREATE A NEW MESSAGE down-arrow show FAVORITES from BOTH address books? I don't need to see the FAVORITES from the other address book when I'm in my account and she doesn't need to see my FAVORITES when she's in her account. This little annoyance has plagued me for a number of years now. I had hoped it would go away with this new upgrade but, alas, it hasn't. Also, since upgrading to v3.65 I noticed that if there's a message saved in the outbox as a finished message (not a draft) and I click on the RECEIVE NEW MAIL down-arrow and then select GET NEW MAIL FOR ALL, new mail is fetched and then the message gets sent. If the message is saved as a draft, it doesn't get sent. Is there some setting somewhere I'm not aware of? -- TIA, Jack LaRosa mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Conveying information with The Bat! ver: 3.65.03 Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dual address books
Dear Jack, @19-Jan-2006, 05:41 -0600 (19-Jan 11:41 here) Jack S. LaRosa [JSL] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Bats!: JSL Since I have two different address books for the two accounts, why JSL does the CREATE A NEW MESSAGE down-arrow show FAVORITES from BOTH JSL address books? Use different a Default address book for each account in account properties. JSL Also, since upgrading to v3.65 I noticed that if there's a message JSL saved in the outbox as a finished message (not a draft) and I click on JSL the RECEIVE NEW MAIL down-arrow and then select GET NEW MAIL FOR ALL, JSL new mail is fetched and then the message gets sent. If the message is JSL saved as a draft, it doesn't get sent. Is there some setting somewhere JSL I'm not aware of? Draft messages use the Parked flag to prevent them from being sent. Non-draft messages are not parked and are sent. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.65.04 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpnw24GkmDHn.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Best way to mark an email in a flexible way for filtering in VF's
Hello tbudl, Maybe some of the more experienced users can help me find the best way to do this: I have a folder called projects. In that folder I have numerous virtual folders for the different projects and clients. Virtual, because sometimes a mail belongs to project A and client B at the same time. I have the VF filtering by sender and recipient, i.e. one folder might have the setting sender-domain contains client B or another folder has subject contains projectA As you can imagine my clients don't have that discipline to write the project's name in every email, or a person not working in client B-company writes an email that thematically belongs to client B. What do you think is the best way to mark an email to belong to project A or client B so that the mail is found by the VF? - Assign color groups: wow, difficult when the number of project reaches more than 10 or so - a special keyword in the memo-field: not very comfortable: I have to hit Shift-Ctrl-I for Autoview-Memo, type in the key, press the save-button and close the autoview-memo-window Any other suggestions? Thanks a lot for your time! -- Martin TB! 3.65.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Best way to mark an email in a flexible way for filtering in VF's
Hallo Martin, On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:59:08 +0100GMT (19-1-2006, 15:59 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MS - Assign color groups: wow, difficult when the number of project MS reaches more than 10 or so I'd assign 'colour groups'. However, I wouldn't name them like colours, but I'd give them the names of your projects. That way you can easily assign them to the right project. Remember that you don't need to define colour schemes for colour groups. -- Groetjes, Roelof As a computer, I find your faith in technology amusing. The Bat! 3.65.02 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpZ3nfoY3Y3m.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: All of a sudden getting Unable to insert a line error messages
On Thursday, January 19, 2006 at 4:31:24 AM, Roelof Otten wrote, and now David Huber on Thursday, January 19, 2006 at 10:25:15 AM responds. RO What did you change on your system? In case you're running Win XP, RO does it help when you restore a restore point? I changed nothing - the errors just started happening. And I'm running WinME (ARGHH). Though for some reason, today, I'm not getting any of these errors and it seems to have self-corrected. RO I haven't got any clue what error messages you're getting, so I'm RO absolute clueless about their meaning. So copy and paste your RO error messages into a message, so that we can see them. The error message came up in a little window and all it said was Error: Unable to insert a line with an okay button to click. I wonder if one of the emails on my server could have been causing a problem? It would have gotten deleted this morning in the daily purge of emails (which I leave on the server for a day after I download). Or maybe not. Bloody weird, whatever it is, and today everything has been working perfectly. Thanks for answering! Not sure if this line of questioning is worth pursuing any more unless that message comes back. -- David I am so convinced of the advantages of looking at mankind instead of reading about them, and of the bitter effects of staying at home with all the narrow prejudices of an Islander, that I think there should be a law amongst us to set our young men abroad for a term among the few allies our wars have left us. - Lord Byron, poet (1788-1824) Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Replying to messages
Hi, PJ I have an ongoing problem which affects all accounts. If I reply to a PJ message where my e-mail was only in the CC not the TO field the reply PJ is created with the FROM address set to be the e-mail that was in the PJ TO field of the original message. It looks like you're using a reply template that has something like this in it: %From=%OTo or %SetHeader(From,%OTo) As that's not TB's default, it's likely that you've doe this yourself. All the reply template for my main account includes is: %OFROMFNAME, %Cursor %QUOTES Where else could it be? Is there a default template somewhere? I seem to get this problem on all accounts! Thanks -- PJ Using TB! v3.65.03 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filter for *My Mail*
Hello Marck, Monday, January 16, 2006, 7:13:06 AM, you wrote: RD How do many of you keep track of threads where you have replied and RD would be looking for another person to reply to you? I use an About me colour group to colour red all threads I'm involved in. Marck, can you elaborate on the above? Is this something that happens automagically or do you have to set the color group manually when you reply? I might be completely missing something but I don't see how to do regex in the colour group menus. -- Matt Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Replying to messages
Hallo Paul, On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:35:23 +GMT (19-1-2006, 17:35 +0100, where I live), you wrote: PJ Where else could it be? Is there a default template somewhere? I PJ seem to get this problem on all accounts! Well, there is a default template somewhere, but that definitely does not cause your problem. That's the template you get when you create a new account. Does this happen for everybody or only for some people (like those in your address book, or in certain address book groups?) I'll PM you two messages, please be so kind to respond to them. -- Groetjes, Roelof Water floats a ship...Water sinks a ship. Old Chinese Proverb The Bat! 3.65.02 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpR1qLxijSoN.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: All of a sudden getting Unable to insert a line error messages
Hallo David, On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:30:19 -0600GMT (19-1-2006, 17:30 +0100, where I live), you wrote: D The error message came up in a little window and all it said was D Error: Unable to insert a line with an okay button to click. Just guessing, might it have something to do with your log file? Try what it's saying there about the time you encountered this problem. -- Groetjes, Roelof The Babylon Project was our last, best hope for peace. It failed. The Bat! 3.65.02 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpIQNI2qmX2E.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TEMPLATE HELP
Hello Bat Lovers, I need template help. I am trying to trip off message footers as I reply. I have been stripping of a legal disclaimer with this template successfully. %SetPattRegExp='(?is)(.*?)\n(_*?)\n%- This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email'%' %-%Quotes=%RegExpMatch='%Text' The person that sends this too me has recently added a signature that sometimes appears above the disclaimer that looks like this: Persons Name CDA II, Clinical Data Management XXX Phone (xxx) xxx- Fax (xxx) xxx- I need a template that will strip both off, even in the case that one of the other my not be present on the e-mail. For instance sometimes the disclaimer is missing but the signature is always present. I would appreciate any help possible. -- Best regards, Chuck Smith Using The Bat! 3.65.04 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 [uptime :: 0d 5h 53m] Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TEMPLATE HELP
Hello Bat Lovers, I need template help. I am trying to trip off message footers as I Persons Name Fax (xxx) xxx- I need a template that will strip both off, even in the case that one of the other my not be present on the e-mail. For instance sometimes the disclaimer is missing but the signature is always present. I would appreciate any help possible. I don;t suppose there's any mileage in asking them to put a proper cut mark before their signature is there? Cut mark is: Two hyphens (dashes) followed by an (invisible) space. Then, as you may well already know, the reply process itself does the job you want. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TEMPLATE HELP
Hello Bat Lovers, Thursday, January 19, 2006, 2:50:52 PM, you wrote: I don;t suppose there's any mileage in asking them to put a proper cut mark before their signature is there? No. They probably would not do that. Then, as you may well already know, the reply process itself does the job you want. Yes I do and that would be the earliest way of course. -- Chuck Smith Using The Bat! 3.65.04 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 [uptime :: 0d 7h 37m] Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Best way to mark an email in a flexible way for filtering in VF's
Hello Martin, - a special keyword in the memo-field: not very comfortable: I have to hit Shift-Ctrl-I for Autoview-Memo, type in the key, press the save-button and close the autoview-memo-window You are right, it is not very comfortable but it is the only solution I've found for a situation similar to yours. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.65.04 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Option allow local delivery disapeared
Hi Bat Users, On my just installed latest version of TB! the option under Option-NetworkAdmin allow local delivery seems to be missing. I had this happen before when I tried the encrypted version of TB, but this time I made no changes in the setup, at least not knowingly. Can anyone explain what has happen and how I can gain access to this option again? -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Consequences, shmonsequences! So long as I'm rich! -- Daffy Duck = Using The Bat! v3.65.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Best way to mark an email in a flexible way for filtering in VF's
Hello MAU, Hello Martin, - a special keyword in the memo-field: not very comfortable: I have to hit Shift-Ctrl-I for Autoview-Memo, type in the key, press the save-button and close the autoview-memo-window You are right, it is not very comfortable but it is the only solution I've found for a situation similar to yours. Well, I now decided (and already used) Roelofs suggestion to use color groups. I did not consider the possibility that a color group can also be colorless, thus only be used as a special mark without modifying the mail's appearance in the message list (which I would not want). Thanks anyway, MAU. I feel blessed that my simple question was answered by two beta-heavyweights (literally spoken of course :-) -- Martin TB! 3.65.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Dual address books
Hello Marck, Thursday, January 19, 2006, 6:03:58 AM, you wrote: MDP Dear Jack, MDP @19-Jan-2006, 05:41 -0600 (19-Jan 11:41 here) Jack S. LaRosa [JSL] in MDP mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Bats!: JSL Since I have two different address books for the two accounts, why JSL does the CREATE A NEW MESSAGE down-arrow show FAVORITES from BOTH JSL address books? MDP Use different a Default address book for each account in account MDP properties. I've had the accounts set up like that for a long time so that doesn't seem to be the answer. The default address book for my account is 'Jack's addresses' and for her account it's 'June's addresses'. JSL Also, since upgrading to v3.65 I noticed that if there's a message JSL saved in the outbox as a finished message (not a draft) and I click on JSL the RECEIVE NEW MAIL down-arrow and then select GET NEW MAIL FOR ALL, JSL new mail is fetched and then the message gets sent. If the message is JSL saved as a draft, it doesn't get sent. Is there some setting somewhere JSL I'm not aware of? MDP Draft messages use the Parked flag to prevent them from being sent. MDP Non-draft messages are not parked and are sent. I see where my wording on this question may have caused you to misunderstand. If we assume there are no parked messages but only saved, ready-to-send messages, and I choose GET NEW MAIL FOR ALL I would expect TB to do only a receive, not a send/receive which is what it does. I would expect a send/receive only if I had chosen SEND + CHECK FOR ALL. -- Best regards, Jackmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Now running TB! v3.65.03 from Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 - Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dual address books
G'day Jack, Friday, January 20, 2006, 1:20:39 PM, you wrote: snipped I see where my wording on this question may have caused you to misunderstand. If we assume there are no parked messages but only saved, ready-to-send messages, and I choose GET NEW MAIL FOR ALL I would expect TB to do only a receive, not a send/receive which is what it does. I would expect a send/receive only if I had chosen SEND + CHECK FOR ALL. Have you checked Account Properties - Transport to see if the box marked Combined Delivery (Send + Receive) is ticked. If the box is ticked The Bat! will do both actions together whenever you ask it to Send OR Check for new mail. -- Bob Mo®®is Friday, 20 January 2006 Using The Bat! PRO v3.65.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! keeps trying to dowload deleted messages.
G'day TBUDL Members, A friend sent me a message with a _very_ large attachment (several MB) which was taking forever to download. (I'm on dial-up.) I aborted the procedure and directly accessed my ISP mailbox via web-mail and deleted the offending message along with everything else in my in-box. Now whenever I attempt to check for new mail on that account The Bat! reports that it is downloading the messages that I have already deleted and just sits there at 0% received for however long I remain connected. As a check I have accessed the offending account both via web-mail and by PocoMail, both of which report that there is no mail currently in the account. I figure that there must be some sort of cache that The Bat! is referring to and that it thinks that there is still mail to retrieve. I have closed The Bat! down (several times) and also rebooted the computer a couple of times as well with no change. Any ideas on how I can clear whatever is that is locking things up? -- Bob Mo®®is Friday, 20 January 2006 Using The Bat! v3.65.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB, Nod32 and email tags
Anyone out there that is using TB with Nod32 as AV? I just noticed that while most of my emails are obviously scanned by NOD and do show their proper tag at the bottom, some other emails seem to be either ignored or do not have the tag (confirming the scan). One email was received yesterday and included about a dozen jpg.files. I checked the body of the email for the scan info and when I did not see it, looked at the source code - again without success. I then send the same email to me at a different address and opened it with Opera. Here I could see now the scan info, however I assume this relates to the redirected email not the original. I checked on the NOD forum and one suggestion I received was that the email as HTML might contain coding errors thus causing the tag not to appear? Anyone here with some experience or explanation? Btw, is there a security issue of reading emails in HTML when using TB. I know some users are plaintext purists but I am just wondering about the security issue in this respect? Any info is greatly appreciated -- Tom using TB 3.6503 Home on XP with NOD32 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! keeps trying to dowload deleted messages.
Hello Bob, On Friday, January 20, 2006, 7:23:24 AM, which was 8:44:58 AM where I am, you wrote: BM A friend sent me a message with a _very_ large attachment (several BM MB) which was taking forever to download. (I'm on dial-up.) I aborted BM the procedure and directly accessed my ISP mailbox via web-mail and BM deleted the offending message along with everything else in my in-box. BM Now whenever I attempt to check for new mail on that account The Bat! BM reports that it is downloading the messages that I have already BM deleted and just sits there at 0% received for however long I remain BM connected. As a check I have accessed the offending account both via BM web-mail and by PocoMail, both of which report that there is no mail BM currently in the account. BM I figure that there must be some sort of cache that The Bat! is BM referring to and that it thinks that there is still mail to retrieve. BM I have closed The Bat! down (several times) and also rebooted the BM computer a couple of times as well with no change. Any ideas on how I BM can clear whatever is that is locking things up? I had a similar type of problem with large attachments, and kept getting warned by my ISP that my account quota was close to the limit. Have you tried emptying the trash folder on your web-mail? -- Regards, Maurice Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
