Re: TNEF support, how does it work?
Hello Gerard, G The bat will show that and not show the attachment. You can see G this because the formatting is missing in the plain text part. So, you mean you want The Bat! to show rich text part? -- Best regards, Stefan Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TNEF support, how does it work?
Hello Gerard, I get most of my TNEF email's from a subscription service. They also place the content of the email in a plain text part int he email. The bat will show that and not show the attachment. You can see this because the formatting is missing in the plain text part. I cant find a way to display the winmail.dat section in TB. I am using winmail opener to see the attachment now. Well, I don't get much TNEF email lately. But I have tested this with many of the messages I have in my message base, for which I needed to use Winmail Opener in the past, and I can see them now without its help. I'm not familiar enough with TNEF and I don't know if there are (or may be) different variations or flavours. I would suggest that you open a bug report in BT https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/main_page.php and, if not confidential information, include one of the email that you can't see. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TNEF support, how does it work?
Hello MAU, Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 10:34:34 AM, you wrote: M I think that would be what people would expect. As I say in another M message I don't get much TNEF email lately (I have trained my M correspondents) but they used to use rich text showing quoted text in red (with no , etc.) and their own text in blue. If you can't see the M colours, it is difficult to tell which text is quoted and which not. Some time ago, I have been waiting for a couple of months for a reply from someone who had simply quoted my text, except for the first question to which he replied with a full written sentence. I did not understand why he only had answered that question and not the others. Those were questions in which I asked him under what code-number some expenses had to be entered. Turned out he HAD answered my question by putting numbers right behind my question. My original questions looked like this (not the real content, of course): question 012345 question 012345 question 012345 question 012345 perhaps was + same question 012345 question 012345 question 012345 question 012345 and /or question 012345 question 012345 question 012345 question 012345 also question 012345 question 012345 question 012345 question 012345? to which he replied: question 012345 question 012345 question 012345 question 012345 perhaps was + same question 012345 question 012345 question 012345 question 012345 and /or question 012345 question 012345 question 012345 question 0123 1204 or 1205 also question 012345 question 012345 question 012345 question 012345? 4223 and so on. It was only much later that I saw the added numbers. And looking at that winmail.dat with winmail opener, I now see that he wrote those number in red. Needless to say I would have seen his replies much earlier if I would have looked at it with winmail opener. Even if TB! would keep on showing the text version only, I now know that, to make sure I do not oversee possible replies, I'd better open the winmail.dat with winmail opener... -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.14 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TNEF support, how does it work?
Hello Stefan, Nice to see you in TBUDL also :) G The bat will show that and not show the attachment. You can see G this because the formatting is missing in the plain text part. So, you mean you want The Bat! to show rich text part? I think that would be what people would expect. As I say in another message I don't get much TNEF email lately (I have trained my correspondents) but they used to use rich text showing quoted text in red (with no , etc.) and their own text in blue. If you can't see the colours, it is difficult to tell which text is quoted and which not. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TNEF support, how does it work?
Hello Mark, M I think that would be what people would expect. As I say in another M message I don't get much TNEF email lately (I have trained my M correspondents) but they used to use rich text showing quoted text in M red (with no , etc.) and their own text in blue. If you can't see the M colours, it is difficult to tell which text is quoted and which not. snipped quite a bit It was only much later that I saw the added numbers. And looking at that winmail.dat with winmail opener, I now see that he wrote those number in red. Needless to say I would have seen his replies much earlier if I would have looked at it with winmail opener. Even if TB! would keep on showing the text version only, I now know that, to make sure I do not oversee possible replies, I'd better open the winmail.dat with winmail opener... I know exactly what you mean and believe that, to avoid this type of misunderstandings, TB should display TNEF email with all the Rich Text attributes (colour mainly) or not display them at all. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Window Focus Bug (Long, ATTN: Ritlabs, Thomas Fernandez, PowerPro users)
Hello there, On 29/9/07 I sent an e-mail to this list titled weird focus issue. This issue first appeared for me in TB 3.99.24 and made me roll back. Back then, I got a confirmation from Thomas Fernandez that this issue is experienced by some users and gave me some guidelines which do not seem to work for me. I decided to test the new 4.0.x version hoping that this has been fixed. Unfortunately it hasn't, although I now seem to have more data about the problem and I hope someone can fix it because it really makes the program unusable for me (I'll probably need to roll back again). First of all, what I notice in some systems is that when we place the mouse over the minimize/maximize/close buttons of TB's main window, the buttons get highlighted only for a split second. This is not standard window behavior (it should remain highlighted as long as the mouse is over it). I don't know if this is somehow related to the problem. The problem's description is as follows. I click on the tray icon to activate the main window. However, the window of TB! acts like if it is inactive (grayed out like when you bring a window on top of it). Clicking on it doesn't solve anything, the window stays inactive. No mouse clicks allowed inside it. It cannot be closed, minimized or resized and the only choice I have is to close TB! from its tray icon. Now, the clue is that so far this behavior occurs only when I try to activate TB! from a PowerPro tray icon. I did an install in a clean system and successfully replicated the issue. I give you the exact guidelines. - Setup a Windows XP machine with SP2 - Install TB! - in TB, in Options - Preferences - General check the following options: Always show icon in the System Tray Minimise to the System Tray Minimise on Pressing 'Close Button - go to http://www.ppro.org/ and download PowerPro - Install PowerPro - Run pproconf, go to Setup tab, and click button install tray support - Restart computer - Run pproconf, go to command lists tab, click new list button - Give a list name and tick the Show this list as bar when powerpro starts checkbox - Press the Properties button. You can change the position of the bar in the Position field to suit your preference. - Go to active buttons tab and add 10 to the show up to this number of buttons... field - Uncheck Show buttons for active windows - Check show buttons for tray icons - Press OK and OK to exit Now you should have a bar which shows exactly what the system tray does. Just use that bar instead of the system tray to reproduce the issue (close TB! and try to restore it from there). With that said, I don't consider this as a PowerPro problem because TB is the only program that demonstrates that behavior. As I understand, there are some people experiencing this thing randomly. Do you perhaps use PowerPro or some other launcher? Perhaps a system tray replacement? Anything else that has to do with the system tray or window manipulation? Macro programs? In order to get rid of this, I am willing to help the developers test if they want to send me test builds of the program. If I must report this issue to the bug tracker, please tell me where I find it. -- Best Regards, Alex Cicovic Using The Bat! 4.0.14 under Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Window Focus Bug (Long, ATTN: Ritlabs, Thomas Fernandez, PowerPro users)
Hello Alexander, On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:31:53 +0200 GMT (13/02/2008, 20:31 +0700 GMT), Alexander Cicovic wrote: AC Hello there, AC On 29/9/07 I sent an e-mail to this list titled weird focus issue. AC This issue first appeared for me in TB 3.99.24 and made me roll back. AC Back then, I got a confirmation from Thomas Fernandez that this issue AC is experienced by some users and gave me some guidelines which do not AC seem to work for me. I believe this refers to http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3357 [The Bat 0003357]: Focus on main windows impossible after reciving POP3-Mail I haven't tried yet whether it is still present in the current version. -- Cheers, Thomas. ROBOTRON: Unsere Mikroelektronik ist die Groesste! http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.14 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Window Focus Bug (Long, ATTN: Ritlabs, Thomas Fernandez, PowerPro users)
Hello Alexander, snipped quite a bit If I must report this issue to the bug tracker, please tell me where I find it. I personally think reporting it in BT would be the way to go. Click on the link for TBUDL info appearing at the end of every message in this list and on that page you will see the link to BT. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Window Focus Bug (Long, ATTN: Ritlabs, Thomas Fernandez, PowerPro users)
On Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 7:31:53 AM, Alexander Cicovic wrote: First of all, what I notice in some systems is that when we place the mouse over the minimize/maximize/close buttons of TB's main window, the buttons get highlighted only for a split second. This is not standard window behavior (it should remain highlighted as long as the mouse is over it). I don't know if this is somehow related to the problem. My buttons behave the same way, so probably not linked to your problem. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.12 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Window Focus Bug (Long, ATTN: Ritlabs, Thomas Fernandez, PowerPro users)
Hi On Wednesday 13 February 2008 at 5:06:36 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Dwight A Corrin wrote: My buttons behave the same way, so probably not linked to your problem. So do mine. I do not use powerpro and do not have The Bat! icon in my systray so cannot comment on the problem you describe. -- Best regards, MFPA Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Window Focus Bug (Long, ATTN: Ritlabs, Thomas Fernandez, PowerPro users)
Hello there, Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 6:17:53 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF I believe this refers to TF http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3357 I skimmed through this and think I should probably file another report. I have no dial up and what happens isn't connected to receiving mail or the connection center. Though they seem to have the same effect... -- Best regards, Alexander Cicovic http://www.alexcicovic.com/ Using The Bat! 4.0.14 under Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: view modes
Hello Roelof, Thanks. I wasn't planning on deleting the file. -- Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 3.99.3 under Windows XP Service Pack 2 2600 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Window Focus Bug (Long, ATTN: Ritlabs, Thomas Fernandez, PowerPro users)
Hello Alexander, On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:17:02 +0200 GMT (14/02/2008, 01:17 +0700 GMT), Alexander Cicovic wrote: TF I believe this refers to TF http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3357 This is still present in the current version. AC I skimmed through this and think I should probably file another AC report. I have no dial up and what happens isn't connected to AC receiving mail or the connection center. Though they seem to have AC the same effect... It's not only about dial-up, but it applies when the computer is not yet connected to the internet and you hit check amil. Then TB! will connect (it's DSL over here now) and the bug kicks in. But you are right, yours is a different problem. -- Cheers, Thomas. Reality is a crutch for people who can't handle drugs. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.14 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Download URL Manager
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 4:13:44 PM, you wrote: SC Hello Paul, SC A reminder of what Paul Berger typed on: SC Wednesday, February 13, 2008 at 11:06:57 GMT -0800 PB This is new in Ver 4. PB Any suggestion as to how to turn it off? SC Click on the little planet icon in the header area. Select the option you want. Thanks Stuart. Did not see the little planet icon, but there was a choice at bottom left - to untick showing this window automatically. So did this. (No way to get it back if I ever want it - unlikely -, and no help from the help button at bottom right.) -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.0.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 ...I was going to procrastinate, but I put it off Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
