Software to save emails automatically

2008-11-30 Thread Jean Lai Kan
Hi All, 

I am looking for a software which can save all messages, including threaded 
ones,  as individual files. If I click on a saved file individually it would 
open & show attachments (which can be saved to a file or opened on clicking)

If several messages has the same title, it would add a suffix to the files.

Is such software available for the Bat! and Outlook Express?

John 


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Re[2]: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing

2008-11-30 Thread Vili
JSL> I've been following this thread since the beginning and find it
JSL> unusual that no one has mentioned the Tiki (similar to WIKI I suppose)
JSL> for TBUDP (The Bat! User Documentation Project) located at the PCWIZE
JSL> website (http://www.pcwize.com/).
JSL> The following link will take you directly to the TBUDP page:
JSL> http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp/tiki-index.php
JSL> Since this project has already been started, it would seem that it
JSL> falls directly in line with what every one in this thread is asking
JSL> for. I've discovered that once you have registered, you are allowed to
JSL> create new, and edit existing, pages.
JSL> Would a printable manual really be necessary if one could always go to
JSL> this site for answers to TB how-to questions? And if a printable
JSL> manual is preferable to on-line help, maybe the contents of this TIKI
JSL> could be printed in some sort of hard-copy manual.

Yes, printable manual is always better. Even if you dont print it, you
dont have to go online to find out something.

I knew that there are sites/info about TB out there. What I suggest is
to gather all useful info into one PDF. So, the goal is NOT to make
something completely new, but a useful, comprehensive PDF.

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Re[2]: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing

2008-11-30 Thread Vili
>> http://www.processtext.com/news.html
>> A set of programs you (likely) never saw before.
>> I downloaded most of them in the past but after my motorbike accident in
>> January no idea where they ended up.
>> But if you want to do any text converting, they are ideal.
>> Sorry, I go bed to sleep!
R> I agree - his product are great and priced right. If you are using
R> Help & Manual though, you may not need them ...

I already made the PDF v0, it needs some editing, and then the members
of the team can take a look at it.

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Re[2]: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing

2008-11-30 Thread Vili
>> Ok, I joked, but also, I am willing to participate in a project where
>> we put together an English PDF manual.
PF> Shouldn't Ritlabs produce manuals for their software?
PF> I find it odd that users need to produce manuals for a commercial
PF> software product.
PF> Freeware/open source, yes; payware, no.

Yes, I know, but...

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Browser hogs focus

2008-11-30 Thread Munango-Keewati
Is there a way to control the browser activity when one clicks on a
url link in an email message in TB?  I would prefer the link to open
in the browser in the background, without hogging the focus and
preventing me from doing other things in TB while it opens.

Thanks.

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Re: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-30 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Vili,

On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:32:40 +0100 GMT (01/12/2008, 00:32 +0700 GMT),
Vili wrote:

t>>> It seems that file is damaged according to my reader
 >> PDF manual for TB:
 >> http://www.thebat.hu/Download/The_batv4018MANUAL.pdf
TF>> It opened fine here - but don't bother downloading it unless you read
TF>> Hungarian! This is not a joke.

V> I am sorry, I wanted it to be a half joke, half serious note that it
V> IS possible to make a decent manual for TB.

You have made a good point. Of course it is possible to make a good
manual for TB!. It is only a question of people donating their time
(which you apparently have done for your Hungarian customers) or
Ritlabs paying someone for this essential document.

Other payware producers will deliver each new version with an updated
manual. I think that is the standard.

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Re: Inline .jpg photos

2008-11-30 Thread Rick
> Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],

> Monday, December 1, 2008, 8:46:51 AM, you wrote:

>>> Is there a way to insert photos into an email so that they form part
>>> of the text?

>>> Else they are added as attachments, unless you first paste the photos
>>> into Word and then copy and paste.

R>> I'm using an Alpha and not finding it in the menu. Choose HTML or
R>> HTML/plain text editor and the bar under the "subject" will change.
R>> Look for an icon that is white with a mountain and an orange sun

R>> Get the cursor where you want it and click that. There is no good
R>> wrapping so if that doesn't give you the effect you want you can
R>> insert the graphic into a table etc




> Many thanks, Rick and Ian.

> Rick's method works fine, though only one image at a time.

> Like Rick, my version does not have the menu item:
>   Utilities menu, pick Insert|Image

Mine HAS is, I just couldn't find it for the email to you :))



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Re[2]: Inline .jpg photos

2008-11-30 Thread Paul Berger
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Monday, December 1, 2008, 8:46:51 AM, you wrote:

>> Is there a way to insert photos into an email so that they form part
>> of the text?

>> Else they are added as attachments, unless you first paste the photos
>> into Word and then copy and paste.

R> I'm using an Alpha and not finding it in the menu. Choose HTML or
R> HTML/plain text editor and the bar under the "subject" will change.
R> Look for an icon that is white with a mountain and an orange sun

R> Get the cursor where you want it and click that. There is no good
R> wrapping so if that doesn't give you the effect you want you can
R> insert the graphic into a table etc




Many thanks, Rick and Ian.

Rick's method works fine, though only one image at a time.

Like Rick, my version does not have the menu item:
  Utilities menu, pick Insert|Image



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TBUDL Mission Statement

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The Roguemoticon Project


It's  nice to see your contact's face in the header ... and for them
to  see  yours. That's what roguemoticons are all about. If you wish
to add yourself, then you'll need to visit this site
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What  this  place  will  do  for  you  is  to allow you to create an
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containing  all  the  files  you'll  need to be able so see people's
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To trigger the roguemoticon display in the message header for anyone
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  How to use a signature trigger
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replaced on the client side by the corresponding image. A handle
could  look  like anything you want it to look like pretty much.
For example:
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Just add this text to your standard message signature block.

  How to create the X-Rogue: header
You can do that with this macro:
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However, the macro alone won't do the trick.
TB'll  say: 'Hey, that's not any RFC822 header I know about', so
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Now you'll get a pop-up to define the header

  Display as: X-Rogue (or whatever, it isn't very important)
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Re: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing

2008-11-30 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Sunday 30 November 2008 at 8:49:08 PM, in
, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:


> I've been following this thread since the beginning and
> find it unusual that no one has mentioned the Tiki
> (similar to WIKI I suppose) for TBUDP (The Bat! User
> Documentation Project) located at the PCWIZE website

[...]

> http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp/tiki-index.php

> Since this project has already been started, it would
> seem that it falls directly in line with what every one
> in this thread is asking for.


I thought exactly the same thing.


> Would a printable manual really be necessary if one
> could always go to this site for answers to TB how-to
> questions?

Some people prefer a printable/printed manual.

And is there such a thing as a site you can /always/ go to?


> And if a printable manual is preferable to
> on-line help, maybe the contents of this TIKI could be
> printed in some sort of hard-copy manual.


It's certainly a good place to start. And the GNU Free Documentation
License would allow inclusion of the material with or without
modification.


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Re: Inline .jpg photos

2008-11-30 Thread Rick
> G'day Paul,

->> On Monday, December 1, 2008, 10:33:58 AM, you (Paul Berger) wrote:

PB>> Is there a way to insert photos into an email so that they form part
PB>> of the text?

PB>> Else they are added as attachments, unless you first paste the photos
PB>> into Word and then copy and paste.

> First you have to use HTML as the message format.

> Now, position yourself where you want the image to go, then from the 
> Utilities menu, pick Insert|Image. Locate the image you want to insert
> and insert it.

Oh DUH and I couldn't find it in the menus [blush] [shame] :))

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Re: Inline .jpg photos

2008-11-30 Thread Rick
> Is there a way to insert photos into an email so that they form part
> of the text?

> Else they are added as attachments, unless you first paste the photos
> into Word and then copy and paste.

I'm using an Alpha and not finding it in the menu. Choose HTML or
HTML/plain text editor and the bar under the "subject" will change.
Look for an icon that is white with a mountain and an orange sun

Get the cursor where you want it and click that. There is no good
wrapping so if that doesn't give you the effect you want you can
insert the graphic into a table etc


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Inline .jpg photos

2008-11-30 Thread Paul Berger
Is there a way to insert photos into an email so that they form part
of the text?

Else they are added as attachments, unless you first paste the photos
into Word and then copy and paste.


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Re: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing

2008-11-30 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Fellow list members,

I've been following this thread since the beginning and find it
unusual that no one has mentioned the Tiki (similar to WIKI I suppose)
for TBUDP (The Bat! User Documentation Project) located at the PCWIZE
website (http://www.pcwize.com/).

The following link will take you directly to the TBUDP page:

http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp/tiki-index.php

Since this project has already been started, it would seem that it
falls directly in line with what every one in this thread is asking
for. I've discovered that once you have registered, you are allowed to
create new, and edit existing, pages.

Would a printable manual really be necessary if one could always go to
this site for answers to TB how-to questions? And if a printable
manual is preferable to on-line help, maybe the contents of this TIKI
could be printed in some sort of hard-copy manual.

Just curious.

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Re: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing

2008-11-30 Thread tracer
There are so many programs in what they have it is unlikely
there isn't anything suitable. Note not all work as I found out when doing a
bulk Sony format to Lit conversionThey also have email conversion stuff
like the Bat!


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Re: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing

2008-11-30 Thread Rick
> http://www.processtext.com/news.html
> A set of programs you (likely) never saw before.
> I downloaded most of them in the past but after my motorbike accident in
> January no idea where they ended up.
> But if you want to do any text converting, they are ideal.
> Sorry, I go bed to sleep!

I agree - his product are great and priced right. If you are using
Help & Manual though, you may not need them ...


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Re: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing

2008-11-30 Thread tracer
http://www.processtext.com/news.html
A set of programs you (likely) never saw before.
I downloaded most of them in the past but after my motorbike accident in
January no idea where they ended up.
But if you want to do any text converting, they are ideal.
Sorry, I go bed to sleep!


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Re: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing

2008-11-30 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Vili,

On 30-11-2008 18:55, you wrote in
:
> Ok, I joked, but also, I am willing to participate in a project where
> we put together an English PDF manual.

Shouldn't Ritlabs produce manuals for their software?

I find it odd that users need to produce manuals for a commercial
software product.

Freeware/open source, yes; payware, no.

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Re: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing

2008-11-30 Thread Bob Riley
Hi Vili,

Sunday, November 30, 2008, 10:55:02 AM, you wrote:

> Ok,  I joked, but also, I am willing to participate in a project where
> we  put together an English PDF manual. But I cannot do it alone. This
> is what I suggest:

> - first we simply import the CHM into Help&Manual (I tried it, works,
> some formatting does not come over). Advantage of HM is that we can
> create PDF very easily, etc. Ok, so at this point we have a PDF v0.

> - some people go over it and decide which parts to change, what extra
> parts to write

That is simply an excellent suggestion (!) as Roger pointed out
following your note, when he volunteered to help with the English
editing. Like Roger, I have not explored all the fine features of TB,
but like Roger, I could help with the text editing, having written
tech manuals years ago (it was not my primary job, but I did it as an
engineer helping develop such manuals for machine operators).

There should be a good chief editor (not I!), and dividing up of 
tasks, reasonable deadlines, etc.

Thank you, Vili, for your hard work on the Hungarian manual and for 
making this suggestion.

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Re: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing

2008-11-30 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello Vili,

Sunday, November 30, 2008, 7:55:02 PM, among other things, you wrote:

V> So,  who  are willing to put some time into it? I estimate like ca. 40
V> hrs/person  or  little  more.  Project  would  take  until  the end of
V> January,  so  it  can  be  spread  over two months, no reason to hurry
V> during December.
I  have the time and am willing to help.  I may not have used all the features 
of 
TB but I am a native English speaker and have had editing experience, though 
not professionally!

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Re[3]: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-30 Thread Chrille
Hello Vili,

Sunday, November 30, 2008, 18:29:23, you wrote:

> I  dont  see  that there was a request for the _English_ manual. There
> was a request for a _printable manual_ for TB.

Hehe, sorry about that. I am searching for the English manual. Or perhaps a 
Swedish? :)


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Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing

2008-11-30 Thread Vili
Ok,  I joked, but also, I am willing to participate in a project where
we  put together an English PDF manual. But I cannot do it alone. This
is what I suggest:

- first we simply import the CHM into Help&Manual (I tried it, works,
some formatting does not come over). Advantage of HM is that we can
create PDF very easily, etc. Ok, so at this point we have a PDF v0.

- some people go over it and decide which parts to change, what extra
parts to write

- those people decide who corrects/writes those parts

- everybody does his job by the deadline the people agree

-  the  editor/dictator  :)  goes  over  the  parts and make the final
corrections.  If  the issue is a serious one, he discusses it with the
author. Final word is always the editor's.

- we make a PDF then that is released. This is when people who are not
actively included in the project can make suggestions, that could be
included in PDF manual v2.

So,  who  are willing to put some time into it? I estimate like ca. 40
hrs/person  or  little  more.  Project  would  take  until  the end of
January,  so  it  can  be  spread  over two months, no reason to hurry
during December.

I  am  willing  to do the HM editing, suggesting a structure, make the
PDF  v0. I can supply the editor with HM. I wont be editor. However, I
strongly  suggest  to  have  ONE  editor.  Democracy  in  this kind of
projects never work.

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Re[2]: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-30 Thread Vili
t>> It seems that file is damaged according to my reader
>>> >> PDF manual for TB:
>>> >> http://www.thebat.hu/Download/The_batv4018MANUAL.pdf
TF> It opened fine here - but don't bother downloading it unless you read
TF> Hungarian! This is not a joke.

I am sorry, I wanted it to be a half joke, half serious note that it
IS possible to make a decent manual for TB.

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Re[2]: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-30 Thread Vili
t> Sorry to ask, but what language is it in
t> I can read quite a few languages but some are a headache!

Hungarian. I wrote those manuals for v1, v2, v3 and v4. 300+ pages,
so the users can download it, dont have to figure out everything by
themselves.

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Re[2]: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-30 Thread Vili
Hello Martin,

C>>> I'm  just  wondering  if  there  is  a  printable manual available?
>> PDF manual for TB:
>> http://www.thebat.hu/Download/The_batv4018MANUAL.pdf
MS> Wouldn't have harmed to mention what language that document is
MS> in...would've saved the internet some megabytes of transferred data I
MS> guess.
MS> For the record: the above document is NOT english...

I  dont  see  that there was a request for the _English_ manual. There
was a request for a _printable manual_ for TB.

Anyway,  sorry  for  the  joke.  I just wanted to point out that there
is/are  printable manual(s) out there for TB, it would be time to make
an English one, too.

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Re: OT: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-30 Thread Chrille
Hello Roelof,

Sunday, November 30, 2008, 09:18:21, you wrote:

> Hallo Chrille,

> On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:08:44 +0100GMT (30-11-2008, 9:08, where I
> live), you wrote:

C>> Underligt att du förstår svenska och danska, men inte norska.
C>> Norska är ju mer likt svenska. :)

> 
> Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not
> just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have
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Re: Re[4]: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-30 Thread tracer
Well, I asked for that but its true and even if its supposed to be more
or less similar I never had a Norwegian to try it!
As said the real trick is my memory, I assume its some kind of photographic
memory but it doesn't seem to work the same way...

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OT: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-30 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Chrille,

On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:08:44 +0100GMT (30-11-2008, 9:08, where I
live), you wrote:

C> Underligt att du förstår svenska och danska, men inte norska.
C> Norska är ju mer likt svenska. :)


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Re[4]: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-30 Thread Chrille
Hello tracer,

Sunday, November 30, 2008, 08:57:06, you wrote:

> You may not believe it but I can read and understand Swedish and Danish. No
> Norwegian though and no Finnish! I just never had the need to try and
> read/understand it.I have a few Swedish friends here in Thailand and
> Danish is close enough.

Underligt att du förstår svenska och danska, men inte norska. Norska är ju mer 
likt svenska. :)


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