Inbox organisation: folders inside or outside?
Hello TBUDL, JOOC, where do TB! users create their folders? Inside or outside of the Inbox? I was visiting a friend last night and noticed that she'd created folders inside of her email client's Inbox. There were quite a few folders in there as well. She's an Outlook Express user, and won't budge from it. I commented on the folders and she said that she'd followed an online guide, and sure enough, there's a How-to available showing OE users how to do it. In fact there are a number of guides for OE users describing this method of organization. Do you think there are any good or valid reasons for not creating subfolders within Inboxes, and specifically, the TB! Inbox? I've always created them outside of the Inbox, rather seeing the Inbox as a metaphor for an in-tray, so a temporary area that you sort out and then file stuff elsewhere. Anyhow... -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #12472. Row Wed Neo Gish? ¶ TB! 4.2.4 WinXP Pro Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Defining the increment method for extracted attachments
Hello TBUDL, Is there any way to manually define how TB! increments the names of extracted attachments? I've got filters set up for voicemail, FAX, and SMS which move these incoming messages to their respective TB! folders and then extract their attachments to corresponding folders on my hard drive. It is bugging me though as the files don't logically increment. I archive my voicemail each month and so the incrementation process begins all over again. Here's the list of the incremented voicemail files this month: archived convert.exe msg(1).WAV msg(2).WAV msg(3).WAV msg(4).WAV msg(5).WAV msg(6).WAV msg(7).WAV msg(8).WAV msg(9).WAV msg(10).WAV msg(11).WAV msg(12).WAV msg(13).WAV msg(14).WAV msg(15).WAV msg.WAV msg0001(1).WAV msg0001(2).WAV msg0001(3).WAV msg0001(4).WAV msg0001(5).WAV msg0001(6).WAV msg0001.WAV msg0002(1).WAV msg0002(2).WAV msg0002(3).WAV msg0002.WAV msg0003.WAV msg0004.WAV msg0005(1).WAV msg0005.WAV msg0006.WAV msg0007.WAV msg0008.WAV msg0009.WAV msg0010.WAV msg0011.WAV msg0012.WAV msg0013.WAV msg0014.WAV msg0015.WAV msg0016.WAV This is not useful in any respect. Anyone got any tips or suggestions? -- Simon (Privateofcourse) # 9025. We Row Snide Hog? ¶ TB! 4.2.4 WinXP Pro Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox organisation: folders inside or outside?
Hello Ian, This is what you said on Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:56:55 +1000 your time: [...]The reason is that they are incoming messages that are current. If I want to archive messages then they go into folders that are NOT off the Inbox. Okay, I follow your logic, but then how long does a message stay current before it is flagged for archiving? And do you manually or automatically archive? Or is it archiving rarely done but often thought about ;-) Now this is not because I used Outlook or Outlook Express. I have NEVER used them. It just seems to be a logical way to set folders up. Yeah, sorry about that. It does sort of read like I was suggesting that only Outlook and OE users would stoop to such a practise. It is a bit like having folders off My Documents to store other data files. Some have them all off the root folder. Again, I had a documents folder off the root folder with my data folders off that documents folder long before it ever became a standard with Windows. Good explanation. I actually loathe and detest the My Documents folder, but then that's not the point as I completely see where you are coming from :)) In the grand scheme of things, it does not matter what you do as long as you have some logic behind it. Yeah, true enough. Whatever works for you is about right. Having related folders grouped can make things easier when it comes to searching or backing up. [...] Indeed, and sadly I'm a bit of an 'organis-a-holic' so the depths/levels to my related folders often become quite unwieldilyI do have to rein in and simplify. My wife says it's a curse...on her! lol -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #10340. Drew Go In Whose? ¶ TB! 4.2.4 WinXP Pro Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox organisation: folders inside or outside?
Hello TBUDL, JOOC, where do TB! users create their folders? Inside or outside of the Inbox? I create all mine outside the Inbox. There are pluses and minuses to that. One good way that has been pointed out is to have a VIRTUAL inbox outside the inboxes that shows the content of all your inboxes then folders beneath that to which you sort mail as needed -- Rick Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox organisation: folders inside or outside?
Hi On Friday 26 June 2009 at 12:26:47 PM, in mid:1947019524.20090626122...@privateofcourse.co.uk, Privateofcourse wrote: JOOC, where do TB! users create their folders? Inside or outside of the Inbox? Mine are all outside of the inbox. I was visiting a friend last night and noticed that she'd created folders inside of her email client's Inbox. There were quite a few folders in there as well. She's an Outlook Express user, and won't budge from it. Well, if it works for her and does what she wants it to... When I first got a PC and used Outlook Express, my folders were all outside the inbox. It would not have occurred to me to put them inside the Inbox, even though I nested some of my folders inside other related ones. I commented on the folders and she said that she'd followed an online guide, and sure enough, there's a How-to available showing OE users how to do it. In fact there are a number of guides for OE users describing this method of organization. It would also not have occurred to me to look for a guide to tell me how to organise my folders (-; I see the logic behind that scheme - it's just not /my/ logic. I recently worked with somebody who created folders within the inbox in Outlook. The rest of us who shared that computer would always move them out for her and put them with the rest of the folders. This was not just me, as sometimes I would decide I was moving it later, then find it already moved the next time I looked at Outlook. Do you think there are any good or valid reasons for not creating subfolders within Inboxes, and specifically, the TB! Inbox? IIRC, the wisdom about not leaving your mails in the inbox is because it is a very high-traffic folder; meaning the messagebase files are accessed for a very large number of read/write operations, which increases the possibility of the messagebase becoming corrupted. A sub-folder within the Inbox is still a distinct folder with its own messagebase files, so should still guard against this eventuality - IMHO. I've always created them outside of the Inbox, rather seeing the Inbox as a metaphor for an in-tray, so a temporary area that you sort out and then file stuff elsewhere. Same here. In fact, all my inboxes contain zero messages - the last filter in each account moves any message not yet picked up by a filter to an other incoming folder and I move, action, or delete from there. (-: -- Best regards, MFPA Confusion is always the most honest response Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Defining the increment method for extracted attachments
Hi On Friday 26 June 2009 at 12:59:50 PM, in mid:363709177.20090626125...@privateofcourse.co.uk, Privateofcourse wrote: Is there any way to manually define how TB! increments the names of extracted attachments? Not that I'm aware of. I've got filters set up for voicemail, FAX, and SMS which move these incoming messages to their respective TB! folders and then extract their attachments to corresponding folders on my hard drive. It is bugging me though as the files don't logically increment. I archive my voicemail each month and so the incrementation process begins all over again. Here's the list of the incremented voicemail files this month: archived convert.exe msg(1).WAV msg(2).WAV msg(3).WAV msg(4).WAV msg(5).WAV msg(6).WAV msg(7).WAV msg(8).WAV msg(9).WAV msg(10).WAV msg(11).WAV msg(12).WAV msg(13).WAV msg(14).WAV msg(15).WAV msg.WAV msg0001(1).WAV msg0001(2).WAV msg0001(3).WAV msg0001(4).WAV [...] This is not useful in any respect. It may not be useful but it /is/ logical. You would appear for some reason to have received 16 file attachments this month called msg.wav. After the first one, the rest have been saved as msg(1).msg to msg(15).msg. A list of files in order of created time/date would be more useful. Anyone got any tips or suggestions? Maybe not restarting the numbering each month when you archive? Or is it possible to set up whatever is emailing you these attachments to give them more meaningful names? E.g. datetime.wav means more than msg0001.wav Perhaps use an external application and/or a batch file to rename the files as you wish once extracted to their corresponding folders on your hard drive. (Maybe this could be called from your filter after the extract attachments action using a run external action?) -- Best regards, MFPA Don't be silly, it's all make believe anyway Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Defining the increment method for extracted attachments
Hallo Privateofcourse, On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:59:50 +0100GMT (26-6-2009, 13:59 +0200, where I live), you wrote: P This is not useful in any respect. Anyone got any tips or suggestions? You might sort them on time/date. -- Groetjes, Roelof Fatal error : Mac user detected ! IDIOT MODE ON. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.2.6 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpX8DMzeGc0A.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox organisation: folders inside or outside?
Hallo Simon, On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:26:47 +0100GMT (26-6-2009, 13:26 +0200, where I live), you wrote: P JOOC, where do TB! users create their folders? Inside or outside of the P Inbox? In my seven accounts with 200+ folders (together) I've got exactly one subfolder in one of my inboxes. P Do you think there are any good or valid reasons for not creating P subfolders within Inboxes, and specifically, the TB! Inbox? You've got to live with it, so you'd best use your own logic for ordering them. -- Groetjes, Roelof Live short and fester. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.2.6 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpz7sUGZ2uax.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
