Foreign Language issue?
Hello Everyone, I recently upgraded to 4.2.6 and now notice that some emails from our overseas office get garbled, e.g. (details slightly changed) XYS INTERNATIONAL FREIGHT LIMITED 香港九??尖沙咀?V?|道２５??港威大?B一０?牵常埃彩摇? ???a：(852) 4924 4608 ?髡嫣??a：(852) 3678 0910 邮件地址:f.y...@xyz.hk 澳大利亚全达国际运通司上海代表处 上海市天钥桥路325号嘉大厦A座3012室 邮编 200030 电话：0086 +21 3363 2680 Ext.112 传真：0086 +21 3363 2342 邮件：olive@sha.xyzr.net 网址：www.xyz.com.au I suspect this is due to the sender using a chinese version of windows. However I never had the issue prior to the latest upgrade. Is there something I can do in my config of TB to prevent these squares? -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 4.2.6 on XP Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
Hi On Tuesday 7 July 2009 at 6:21:41 AM, in mid:94421324.20090707122...@thomas-bkk.my-fqdn.de, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Bug report: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7654 M Just to check, here's screenshots of TB! 4.0.38 M viewing your emails:- M http://rapidshare.de/files/47774827/splendid_eml.GIF.html M http://rapidshare.de/files/47774826/LogisticsDigest_eml.GIF.html M http://rapidshare.de/files/47774825/wong_eml.GIF.html Thanks for that. I could download splendid and wong, but the system called me a bot when I tried LogisticsDigest. The system should wash its mouth with soapy water! Please send me the gif files by PM, I will upload them on my website so that people can see what they should look like - not every reads Thai. On their way. I confirm splendid and wong are displayed as they should (and do in 4.0.28) but they display as goobledigook in 4.1.11 and 4.2.6. So, Ritlabs broke something. )-: -- Best regards, MFPA He's an environmentalist - his arguments are 100% recycled Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 23:40:24 +0700, Thomas Fernandez wrote: I tried them in TB 4.2.6 but unfortunataly my Windows doesn't speak Thai. I think if you'd tried 4.0.28 (which is not possible, but hey), your Windows would have spoken Thai. Yes, it does. I never bothered experimenting with exotic character sets, because I don't speak those languages anyway. When I tried your messages again the Subject did show Thai characters. Nothing recognizable as such in the message body though. I'm can only speculate about the cause but it may have something to do with how TB interprets the Content-Type: header line. Arjan -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Foreign Language issue?
Hi On Tuesday 7 July 2009 at 8:55:43 AM, in mid:1975127504.20090707175...@sunnysydney.com, Tom wrote: Hello Everyone, I recently upgraded to 4.2.6 and now notice that some emails from our overseas office get garbled, e.g. (details slightly changed) This looks a bit like the issue Thomas Fernandez is suffering with Thai language emails in the previous thread (starting mid:1256040367.20090615084...@thomas-bkk.my-fqdn.de) I suspect this is due to the sender using a chinese version of windows. However I never had the issue prior to the latest upgrade. Which version did you upgrade from? Thomas has pinpointed that his Thai emails display OK up to at least 4.0.38 but by 4.1.11 there is an issue. Is there something I can do in my config of TB to prevent these squares? I don't know. -- Best regards, MFPA Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
Hello Arjan, On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 12:27:57 +0200 GMT (07/Jul/09, 17:27 +0700 GMT), Arjan de Groot wrote: I tried them in TB 4.2.6 but unfortunataly my Windows doesn't speak Thai. I think if you'd tried 4.0.28 (which is not possible, but hey), your Windows would have spoken Thai. AdG Yes, it does. I never bothered experimenting with exotic AdG character sets, because I don't speak those languages anyway. That's quite normal. AdG When I tried your messages again the Subject did show Thai AdG characters. Nothing recognizable as such in the message body AdG though. Yes, the subject displays correctly, I forgot to mention that. So TB! finds the font. AdG I'm can only speculate about the cause but it may have something AdG to do with how TB interprets the Content-Type: header line. Yes. This worked correctly in 4.0.x and is broken in 4.1.x. Thanks for your confirmations. I have sent a PM to Max ans Stef, as my assingment is due on Saturday but I don't even know what I have to do... -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.1.11 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
Hello MFPA, On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 11:07:02 +0100 GMT (07/Jul/09, 17:07 +0700 GMT), MFPA wrote: M Just to check, here's screenshots of TB! 4.0.38 M viewing your emails:- M http://rapidshare.de/files/47774827/splendid_eml.GIF.html M http://rapidshare.de/files/47774826/LogisticsDigest_eml.GIF.html M http://rapidshare.de/files/47774825/wong_eml.GIF.html Thanks for that. I could download splendid and wong, but the system called me a bot when I tried LogisticsDigest. M The system should wash its mouth with soapy water! I've been called worse, though. Please send me the gif files by PM, I will upload them on my website so that people can see what they should look like - not every reads Thai. M On their way. In GMX classified you mail as spam. Is there any more soapy water around? I confirm splendid and wong are displayed as they should (and do in 4.0.28) but they display as goobledigook in 4.1.11 and 4.2.6. So, Ritlabs broke something. M )-: Yeah. I do think they read here but am not sure. I mentioned the same on TBBETA, but no replies, so I PM'ed them. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.1.11 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Foreign Language issue?
Hello Tom, On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 17:55:43 +1000 GMT (07/Jul/09, 14:55 +0700 GMT), Tom wrote: T I suspect this is due to the sender using a chinese version of T windows. However I never had the issue prior to the latest upgrade. Is T there something I can do in my config of TB to prevent these squares? Version 4.1.x and up indeed have a problem with foreign character sets. Maybe you can add to https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7654 The bug report title is about Thai mails, but it could well be true for all non-Latin and non-Cyrillic character sets, as you have just encountered it with Chinese. Maybe only for DBCS? Korean or Japanese, anyone? How about Greek? Displaying correctly? For me, only mails in Windows-874 or TIS-620 are affected, utf-8 mails seem to display fine. In addition, the subject lines are always rendered correctly. I am cross-posting this to TBBETA, so that it catches the developers' eyes. The bug has not even been assigned, and meanwhile, TB! - an international email program - is not displaying mails written in Thai and apparently other languages. In other words, it doesn't fulfill it's primary objective (message delaying and other gimmicks are nice but not primary), and this has been known for a few days already. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.1.11 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 21:02:33 +0700, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Thanks for your confirmations. I have sent a PM to Max ans Stef, as my assingment is due on Saturday but I don't even know what I have to do... You might try to install version 4.0.x seperately and then apply the unix mbx export-import trick I explained before, just for the messages that are currently important and/or urgent to you. Otherwise I wouldn't know how to get out of this situation... Arjan -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Headers and hyphens
Hello TBUDL, Is there some particular way to use a hyphen in a new TB! header? If you want to add, for example, 'X-Newheader' to your message headers, and you use %HDRX-Newheader with a value of string=n in your template, you'd add the following, right? %HDRX-Newheader=string=n Tried this but it breaks the macro at the hyphen, so the header isn't added and in the actual message body I see: -Newheader=string=n How do I get around this? Thanks. -- Simon (Privateofcourse) # 2577. I News Go Whored? ¶ TB! 4.2.6 WinXP Pro Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Headers and hyphens
On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 at 11:16:47 +0100, Privateofcourse wrote: Is there some particular way to use a hyphen in a new TB! header? If you want to add, for example, 'X-Newheader' to your message headers, and you use %HDRX-Newheader with a value of string=n in your template, you'd add the following, right? %HDRX-Newheader=string=n No, you need to use the macro %Setheader.(X-Newheader,string=n). The syntax you tried does not accept special characters (including -) -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.1.11 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Popfile v1.1.0 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Headers and hyphens
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:14:58 +1000, Robin Anson wrote: If you want to add, for example, 'X-Newheader' to your message headers, and you use %HDRX-Newheader with a value of string=n in your template, you'd add the following, right? %HDRX-Newheader=string=n No, you need to use the macro %Setheader.(X-Newheader,string=n). The syntax you tried does not accept special characters (including -) Yes. %HDR is a so called legacy macro. It doesn't seem to have any purpose anymore, but it's still there because of backward compatibility. It's a little bit unfortunate however, that this macro is still recommended in the Message Headers setup screen of the latest Beta! Release version. Arjan -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachment list
Hi On Wednesday 8 July 2009 at 2:14:18 AM, in mid:19210397996.20090708111...@wai.com.au, Ian A. White wrote: I use the %ATTACHMENTS macro to list the attachments I send in an e-mail to make sure that the recipient gets them all, however the attached filenames all appear on a line wrapped. With filenames allowed to have spaces, this causes issues with a filename breaking across more than one line. You could use underscore_characters_instead_of_spaces (-; Is there any way to list the attachments one per line with the %ATTACHMENTS macro? Yes. Try http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html and look for Attachments Listing Be sure to follow version 2 instructions. -- Best regards, MFPA Don't cry because it is over - smile because it happened Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
Hello MFPA, On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 03:13:33 +0100 GMT (08/Jul/09, 9:13 +0700 GMT), MFPA wrote: You might try to install version 4.0.x seperately and then apply the unix mbx export-import trick I explained before, just for the messages that are currently important and/or urgent to you. M If just a small number of messages, probably just exporting to .msg M files would do it for him. I am sure it is a small oversight somewhere and the developers could fix it in 5 minutes, but they haven't even replied. Running two seperate versions of the TheBat! on the same machine which will require some registry fiddling. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.1.11 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
Hi On Tuesday 7 July 2009 at 5:25:51 PM, in mid:kft65552m37uvvb8hpcmhio75itbf22...@linu.demon.nl, Arjan de Groot wrote: You might try to install version 4.0.x seperately and then apply the unix mbx export-import trick I explained before, just for the messages that are currently important and/or urgent to you. If just a small number of messages, probably just exporting to .msg files would do it for him. -- Best regards, MFPA Two rights do not make a wrong. They make an airplane. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
Hi On Wednesday 8 July 2009 at 3:28:13 AM, in mid:1986062537.20090708092...@thomas-bkk.my-fqdn.de, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Running two seperate versions of the TheBat! on the same machine which will require some registry fiddling. Or maybe run the second one under sandboxie or similar? -- Best regards, MFPA Man is not a rational animal, he is a rationalising animal. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachment list
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 at 03:28:23 +0100, MFPA wrote: On Wednesday 8 July 2009 at 2:14:18 AM, in mid:19210397996.20090708111...@wai.com.au, Ian A. White wrote: I use the %ATTACHMENTS macro to list the attachments I send in an e-mail to make sure that the recipient gets them all, however the attached filenames all appear on a line wrapped. With filenames allowed to have spaces, this causes issues with a filename breaking across more than one line. Is there any way to list the attachments one per line with the %ATTACHMENTS macro? Yes. Try http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html and look for Attachments Listing Be sure to follow version 2 instructions. It doesn't seem to be responding, but I use the following, which I think I took from the TB Library. Create a Quick Template called AttList as follows %If:%_FirstTime=:#%- %%_FirstTime=No%- %%If:%Attachments=none:%- %_:%- %_%-Attachments: %_%_Att_List='%Attachments,'%- %_%Qinclude(AttList)#:#%- %%If:%_Att_List:%- %_%SetPattRegexp='(?i)^(.*?),\s*(.*)$'%- %_%RegexpBlindMatch='%_Att_List'%- %_%- * %SubPatt='1' %_%_Att_List=%SubPatt='2'%- %_%Qinclude(AttList):%- %_%- %#%- -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.1.11 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Popfile v1.1.0 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mails in foreign languages
On Tuesday, July 7, 2009, 9:28:13 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Running two seperate versions of the TheBat! on the same machine which will require some registry fiddling. workarounds seem always to be a dime a dozen (and often not worth that much), but a fix is more like a hen's tooth. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.7.1 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachment list
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 at 14:32:23 +1000, Ian wrote: G'day Robin, On Wednesday, July 8, 2009, at 1:31:30 PM, you (Robin Anson) wrote: RA Create a Quick Template called AttList as follows RA %If:%_FirstTime=:#%- RA %%_FirstTime=No%- RA %%If:%Attachments=none:%- RA %_:%- RA %_%-Attachments: RA %_%_Att_List='%Attachments,'%- RA %_%Qinclude(AttList)#:#%- RA %%If:%_Att_List:%- RA %_%SetPattRegexp='(?i)^(.*?),\s*(.*)$'%- RA %_%RegexpBlindMatch='%_Att_List'%- RA %_%- * %SubPatt='1' RA %_%_Att_List=%SubPatt='2'%- RA %_%Qinclude(AttList):%- RA %_%- RA %#%- Unfortunately when using the QT, it crashes The Bat!. It simply shuts down instantly and nothing gets written to the exception log. That's strange. I just copied and pasted the code from my email into a new QT and it worked perfectly. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.1.11 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Popfile v1.1.0 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
