Setting SPAM filter to run after other filters
Hi I'm using the built in BayesIT spam filter which works pretty well, but is there some way of setting it to filter incoming mail AFTER my other filters have run? In spite of me attempting to train it to recognise TBDUL mail as not junk - much of my list mail is still ending up in the junk folder. If I run a re-filter on the folder my custom filters happily put the mail back where it should be, but it's a major pain to have to do it this way. I'm probably missing something really obvious but whatever it is I'm just not getting it. -- Best regards, Carrenmailto:kiwionab...@xnet.co.nz Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Address Book Group templates
Hello I'm trying to get my head around how Address Book Group templates work as opposed to folder templates. Not quite sure what the advantage of one is over the other yet. I note that the To field automaticaly fills with TBUDL list for a new message. Sending this message to see if it works. -- Carren Using The Bat! v4.2.9.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Redirect and Filter
Hello Everyone, I set up a filter on one of my accounts to redirect incoming mail to another external account provided certain criteria are met. This worked well for a while. I am not sure what changed or what I might have changed but currently the filter only works to place the relevant email into the outbox but does not send the email anymore. I have to manually do so. Where should I look to change this back to automatic? -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 4.2.6 on XP Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting SPAM filter to run after other filters
Hello Carren, Sunday, July 26, 2009, 9:18:07 AM, among other things, you wrote: CS I'm using the built in BayesIT spam filter which works pretty well, but CS is there some way of setting it to filter incoming mail AFTER my other CS filters have run? I don't think so. CS In spite of me attempting to train it to recognise CS TBDUL mail as not junk - much of my list mail is still ending up in CS the junk folder. I think most of us gave up using BayesIt quite a long time ago and switched to AntispamSniper for the Bat!.You can get the download at www.antispamsniper.com , perhaps you should give it a try. However it still won't run after other filters, but once trained gives very few false positives, or negatives! -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: The Bat! v4.2.9.1 POP3with AntiSpamSniper 3.2.0.6, on Windows XP, version 5 1, build 2600 and Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Redirect and Filter
Hallo Tom, On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:29:32 +1000GMT (26-7-2009, 10:29 +0200, where I live), you wrote: T This worked well for a while. I am not sure what changed or what I T might have changed but currently the filter only works to place the T relevant email into the outbox but does not send the email anymore. I T have to manually do so. Check the options tab of your filter. -- Groetjes, Roelof WinErr: 079 Mouse not found - A mouse driver has not been installed. Please click the left mouse button to continue. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.2.9.4 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpdEhDjqiRIv.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Book Group templates
Hallo Carren, On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:45:29 +1200GMT (26-7-2009, 9:45 +0200, where I live), you wrote: CS I'm trying to get my head around how Address Book Group templates CS work as opposed to folder templates. Not quite sure what the CS advantage of one is over the other yet. Address book templates are used when you set the recipient before entering text in the body. Individual address book templates take precedence over address book group templates and both take precedence over folder templates. Suppose you filter tbudl messages to a dedicated folder. If you want to use a special template for replies to the list then you can do that via a folder reply template or via an address book reply template. Suppose you want to send a private reply to one of the list messages (Ctrl-F4). When you're using folder templates your message will be formatted like your list messages, with address book templates that won't be so. CS I note that the To field automaticaly fills with TBUDL list CS for a new message. Sending this message to see if it works. That's odd. The mentioning of the list tag means your addressing an address book group and if that's done automatically then you're probably using a self addressing folder template. Those are a bit risky. -- Groetjes, Roelof WinErr 004: Erroneous error - nothing is wrong http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.2.9.4 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpNOSnqGiH7r.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Book Group templates
Hi On Sunday 26 July 2009 at 8:45:29 AM, in mid:17240271.20090726194...@xnet.co.nz, Carren Stuart wrote: I'm trying to get my head around how Address Book Group templates work as opposed to folder templates. Not quite sure what the advantage of one is over the other yet. A Folder template will be used if that folder has focus when the new message is created, unless you also have an AB template for the (first?) recipient on the To: line (or an AB group template for a group that recipient is assigned to.) Unless you are careful about checking which folder is active when you create a new message this can result in an unintended template being used. Obviously, you can just look at the message you are creating to verify the right details are there. I note that the To field automaticaly fills with TBUDL list for a new message. Sending this message to see if it works. It does (-; -- Best regards, MFPA Always be on the lookout for conspicuousness Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting SPAM filter to run after other filters
Hallo Carren, On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:18:07 +1200GMT (26-7-2009, 9:18 +0200, where I live), you wrote: CS I'm using the built in BayesIT spam filter which works pretty CS well, but is there some way of setting it to filter incoming mail AFTER my other filters have run? No there isn't. plug-in filters are always executed before the sorting office. The only way to get rid of your false positives is by training your spam filter. -- Groetjes, Roelof I think, therefore, I cannot be a moderator. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.2.9.4 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpM3sfVELvbA.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: anti-SPAM solutions
Hello Privateofcourse, On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:22:48 +0100 GMT (15/Jun/09, 21:22 +0700 GMT), Privateofcourse wrote: P I've done a bit of leg work, but it seems to me that the majority P of so-called 'SPAM blocker/stopper' solutions don't and can't P really do anything other than allow you to manage SPAM P after-the-fact. That is, SPAM isn't actually blocked or stopped at P all, but is managed after it has been received. That is true, unfortunately. There are enough ways for spammers to deliver their unwanted mails. P But nonetheless, I suspect that for some this is better than P nothing at all. You can only filter at receiving end. P I think the emphasis though must be on free solutions. Yes, I agree. Let people work for free, this is a centuries-old tradition. I have no idea why I pay for services, anyway. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.1.11 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: anti-SPAM solutions
Yes, I agree. Let people work for free, this is a centuries-old tradition. I have no idea why I pay for services, anyway. I pay for a spamcop.net account because reporting spammers may not stop them, but it helps dry up their sending sources. I may be shoveling against the tide but I feel that I am doing something -- Rick When you're caffeinated, all is right with the world v4.2.9.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: anti-SPAM solutions
'Ello Thomas, On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:49:21 +0700 (your time) you said: P I think the emphasis though must be on free solutions. Yes, I agree. Let people work for free, this is a centuries-old tradition. I have no idea why I pay for services, anyway. Let people... is a curious turn of phrase. Interesting, capitalism masquerading as an ideology. I'll remember to tell the altruist that gives up their free time and money that they should desist with their beneficent activities because they should be paid for their troubles, because they are the rules, and fairness demands it. -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #15175. We He Row Go Dins? ¶ Auxiliary Information: • The Bat! Pro 4.2.9.1 • Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 • Scanned by avast! Plugin 4.8.1335 DB 090726-1 (26.07.2009) Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: anti-SPAM solutions
Hello Simon, On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:45:14 +0100 GMT (27/Jul/09, 5:45 AM +0700 GMT), Simon wrote: P I think the emphasis though must be on free solutions. Yes, I agree. Let people work for free, this is a centuries-old tradition. I have no idea why I pay for services, anyway. S Let people... is a curious turn of phrase. Interesting, capitalism S masquerading as an ideology. It is the same philosophy with which people say that everything on the internet should be free. Heck, they want all software to be free and will not pay any money, for example, for an email client. S I'll remember to tell the altruist that gives up their free time and money S that they should desist with their beneficent activities because they should S be paid for their troubles, because they are the rules, and fairness demands S it. Exactly. You will not believe how many heated arguments we had, I think the 90s were the time when users just demanded to get all software and even online time for free. They thought they had a right to be provided with free services and software. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.9 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: anti-SPAM solutions [now OT]
Hi On Sunday 26 July 2009 at 11:45:14 PM, in mid:1853781609.20090726234...@privateofcourse.co.uk, Simon wrote: I'll remember to tell the altruist that gives up their free time and money that they should desist with their beneficent activities because they should be paid for their troubles, because they are the rules, and fairness demands it. At risk of being ruled off-topic, I will chip in that the issue is not the altruist who chooses to do it for nothing. The problem is the greedy capitalist [insert desired expletive] who pays people just enough to stop them from leaving instead of paying the value of their contribution. This leads them to expect others to also work for next to nothing and feeds into a downward spiral that leads to nobody valuing what anybody else does. -- Best regards, MFPA When duty calls...hang up immediately Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Redirect and Filter
Sunday, July 26, 2009, 11:57:44 PM, you wrote: Hallo Tom, On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:29:32 +1000GMT (26-7-2009, 10:29 +0200, where I live), you wrote: T This worked well for a while. I am not sure what changed or what I T might have changed but currently the filter only works to place the T relevant email into the outbox but does not send the email anymore. I T have to manually do so. Check the options tab of your filter. thanks Roelof but the filter is active and send generated messages says 'immediately. Nothing else is ticked. The conditions are if x met then redirect to -- Tom using TheBat! 4.2.6 on XP Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
