Re: Replicating Attachment problems.

2011-08-12 Thread Mark Partous

Hello Abigail,

Thursday, August 11, 2011, 7:10:31 PM, you wrote:

AM I don't think that would be a good fit for my needs -- it would make it a
AM lot harder for me to locate and find documents over time.

Not  with  Archivarius 3000... The only problem with the combination 
TB!/Archivarius is that the latter can show you the
entire texts of mail attachements (and the location of the files), but not the 
way they look like in the native program,
which it (Archivarius) can for attached files in Outlook or files in folders.

Since  I use  Archivarius 3000 I only have to remember a (preferably) specific 
word that is used in the document to find
the file.

http://www.likasoft.com/document-search/index-en.shtml Not related to Likasoft, 
merely a very happy user :-)

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Gmail issues (re-opened)

2011-08-12 Thread Leonard S. Berkowitz
Last spring, I posted the following:

I have been having e-mail to several Gmail users. I wonder whether
other folks have been having this problem and whether anyone knows
what can be done about this?

Your message cannot be delivered to the following recipients:

I did not put a lot of energy in pursuing this issue as, oddly
enough, I do not need to respond to Gmail users very often, and could
resend the reply from my wife's account* fairly easily.

The other day I noticed the following:

When I reply (usually via f4), the reply is addressed to, for example:

Mortimer Snerd msn...@gmail.com

That will always bounce. However, if I change the reply addressee to

msn...@gmail.com

the e-mail message will travel smoothly to its destination.

(apologies if there really is a Gmail user with the name of Mortimer
Snerd)

Can anyone explain this phenomenon?

*It is a further mystery why the same e-mail message from my account
bounces, but does not bounce when I send it from my wife's account.

Thanks.

-- 
Leonard S. Berkowitz


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Re: Gmail issues (re-opened)

2011-08-12 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Leonard,

On Friday, August 12, 2011 you wrote:

LSB Last spring, I posted the following:

I have been having e-mail to several Gmail users. I wonder whether
other folks have been having this problem and whether anyone knows
what can be done about this?

Your message cannot be delivered to the following recipients:

LSB I did not put a lot of energy in pursuing this issue as, oddly
LSB enough, I do not need to respond to Gmail users very often, and could
LSB resend the reply from my wife's account* fairly easily.

LSB The other day I noticed the following:

LSB When I reply (usually via f4), the reply is addressed to, for example:

LSB Mortimer Snerd msn...@gmail.com

LSB That will always bounce. However, if I change the reply addressee to

LSB msn...@gmail.com

LSB the e-mail message will travel smoothly to its destination.

Leonard, Mortimer Snerd... You're showing your age... As am
I for making that comment.

Anyway, I don't see any difference in the two addresses.  Am
I missing something?


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Re: Gmail issues (re-opened)

2011-08-12 Thread aam
A Bat-fellow, Jack S. LaRosa,
wrote in mid:111247957.20110812102...@charter.net
on Friday, 12th August 2011 at 10:21:51 (GMT -0500), 
which was 17:21 in Bratislava --

 The other day I noticed the following:

 When I reply (usually via f4), the reply is addressed to, for example:
 Mortimer Snerd msn...@gmail.com

 That will always bounce. However, if I change the reply addressee to
 msn...@gmail.com

 the e-mail message will travel smoothly to its destination.

 I don't see any difference in the two addresses.  Am I missing something?


I can confirm issues in this vein, although they're not too frequent for me,
fortunately.

Sometimes it does happen that a message will bounce if it's rather
elaborately addressed in the TO field. But when you re-send the same
message using only the recipient's email address and nothing else in
the TO field, then the message will go through successfully.

I suppose there are 3 ways the above address could appear in the TO field
in the email's headers:

To: Mortimer Snerd msn...@gmail.com
To: Mortimer Snerd msn...@gmail.com
To: msn...@gmail.com

Only the last option of these 3 is *really* safe to go through. Some folks
are crazy and put all sorts of things in their Reply-to field that don't
really belong there, which then results in addresses such as:

Dr. Johnny Lately - Your Trustworthy Physician lat...@grave.com

Now when you attempt to reply to an address like that, The Bat!
displays it as follows in the TO field in the Editor window:

\Dr. Johnny Lately - Your Trustworthy Physician\ lat...@grave.com

Lots of ugly escape characters to look at; such things should be
hidden from the user's eye. And, that's nothing compared to the
goulash that actually gets sent in the email's header, where the above
might look something like this:

To: =?utf-8?Q?=22Dr. Johnny Lately - Your Trustworthy Physician=22?= 
lat...@grave.com

If you think *that's* messy, just write to someone whose name contains
a diacritic letter... *then* things start getting *really* messy, and
the TO filed in the email's headers becomes next to impossible to parse
with human eye. Under such circumstances, I'm not surprised some
messages containing headers like that get falsely labelled as spam.
To avoid these problems, you might want to use only the recipient's
address, and nothing else, in the TO field; I sometimes manually
delete everything else that's in there, to make sure the message goes
through without any delivery problems.

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www.avenarius.sk

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Re: Gmail issues (re-opened)

2011-08-12 Thread Rick
 A Bat-fellow, Jack S. LaRosa,
 wrote in mid:111247957.20110812102...@charter.net
 on Friday, 12th August 2011 at 10:21:51 (GMT -0500), 
 which was 17:21 in Bratislava --

 The other day I noticed the following:

 When I reply (usually via f4), the reply is addressed to, for example:
 Mortimer Snerd msn...@gmail.com

 That will always bounce. However, if I change the reply addressee to
 msn...@gmail.com

 the e-mail message will travel smoothly to its destination.

 I don't see any difference in the two addresses.  Am I missing something?


 I can confirm issues in this vein, although they're not too frequent for me,
 fortunately.

 Sometimes it does happen that a message will bounce if it's rather
 elaborately addressed in the TO field. But when you re-send the same
 message using only the recipient's email address and nothing else in
 the TO field, then the message will go through successfully.

 I suppose there are 3 ways the above address could appear in the TO field
 in the email's headers:

 To: Mortimer Snerd msn...@gmail.com
 To: Mortimer Snerd msn...@gmail.com
 To: msn...@gmail.com

 Only the last option of these 3 is *really* safe to go through. Some folks
 are crazy and put all sorts of things in their Reply-to field that don't
 really belong there, which then results in addresses such as:

 Dr. Johnny Lately - Your Trustworthy Physician lat...@grave.com

 Now when you attempt to reply to an address like that, The Bat!
 displays it as follows in the TO field in the Editor window:

 \Dr. Johnny Lately - Your Trustworthy Physician\ lat...@grave.com

 Lots of ugly escape characters to look at; such things should be
 hidden from the user's eye. And, that's nothing compared to the
 goulash that actually gets sent in the email's header, where the above
 might look something like this:

 To: =?utf-8?Q?=22Dr. Johnny Lately - Your Trustworthy Physician=22?= 
 lat...@grave.com

 If you think *that's* messy, just write to someone whose name contains
 a diacritic letter... *then* things start getting *really* messy, and
 the TO filed in the email's headers becomes next to impossible to parse
 with human eye. Under such circumstances, I'm not surprised some
 messages containing headers like that get falsely labelled as spam.
 To avoid these problems, you might want to use only the recipient's
 address, and nothing else, in the TO field; I sometimes manually
 delete everything else that's in there, to make sure the message goes
 through without any delivery problems.

I  have  never  had  a  problem  with  Gmail addresses - in ANY of the
possible formats

-- 
Rick
There isn’t a health care system in the world that doesn’t have stories of 
people suffering; there isn’t a country in the world that doesn’t have waiting 
lists. In the United States the waiting list is pretty long - if you don’t have 
the money, you wait forever.
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Re: Gmail issues (re-opened)

2011-08-12 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Rick,

On Friday, August 12, 2011 you wrote:

 A Bat-fellow, Jack S. LaRosa,
 wrote in mid:111247957.20110812102...@charter.net
 on Friday, 12th August 2011 at 10:21:51 (GMT -0500), 
 which was 17:21 in Bratislava --

 The other day I noticed the following:

 When I reply (usually via f4), the reply is addressed to, for example:
 Mortimer Snerd msn...@gmail.com

 That will always bounce. However, if I change the reply addressee to
 msn...@gmail.com

 the e-mail message will travel smoothly to its destination.

 I don't see any difference in the two addresses.  Am I missing something?


 I can confirm issues in this vein, although they're not too frequent for me,
 fortunately.

 Sometimes it does happen that a message will bounce if it's rather
 elaborately addressed in the TO field. But when you re-send the same
 message using only the recipient's email address and nothing else in
 the TO field, then the message will go through successfully.

 I suppose there are 3 ways the above address could appear in the TO field
 in the email's headers:

 To: Mortimer Snerd msn...@gmail.com
 To: Mortimer Snerd msn...@gmail.com
 To: msn...@gmail.com

 Only the last option of these 3 is *really* safe to go through. Some folks
 are crazy and put all sorts of things in their Reply-to field that don't
 really belong there, which then results in addresses such as:

 Dr. Johnny Lately - Your Trustworthy Physician lat...@grave.com

 Now when you attempt to reply to an address like that, The Bat!
 displays it as follows in the TO field in the Editor window:

 \Dr. Johnny Lately - Your Trustworthy Physician\ lat...@grave.com

 Lots of ugly escape characters to look at; such things should be
 hidden from the user's eye. And, that's nothing compared to the
 goulash that actually gets sent in the email's header, where the above
 might look something like this:

 To: =?utf-8?Q?=22Dr. Johnny Lately - Your Trustworthy Physician=22?= 
 lat...@grave.com

 If you think *that's* messy, just write to someone whose name contains
 a diacritic letter... *then* things start getting *really* messy, and
 the TO filed in the email's headers becomes next to impossible to parse
 with human eye. Under such circumstances, I'm not surprised some
 messages containing headers like that get falsely labelled as spam.
 To avoid these problems, you might want to use only the recipient's
 address, and nothing else, in the TO field; I sometimes manually
 delete everything else that's in there, to make sure the message goes
 through without any delivery problems.

R I  have  never  had  a  problem  with  Gmail addresses - in ANY of the
R possible formats

Ah! NOW I see.

-- 
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