Re[2]: Bayesit - how does it mark a message as spam?
Hello Alexander, On 21 April 2005 at 10:38:07 GMT +0200 (which was 10:38:07 where I live), Alexander S. Kunz wrote and made these valuable points on the subject of Bayesit - how does it mark a message as spam?: On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:57:53 +0200, Nick Dutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's slow during mail retrieval, which is OK because it's doing lots of thinking (pathetic fallacy?) K9 does the same thinking and its blazingly fast during mail retrieval (hardly noticable there's anything in-between TB and the POP server). PopFile is a Perl application. And Perl is the C64 Basic v2 where other programming languages are Assembler. :-) K9, POPFile, Spambayes and what more products might be available, it's more a matter of personal experiences and how you look at the product from a cosmetic point of view. I agree with you that POPFile (using Perl, install file over 5MB) and Spambayes (using Python, install file over 4MB) are rather large compared to the tiny install file of K9 (116KB). From an installation point of view BayesIT and Bayes Filter ar easier as they are just plug-ins but my experiences with the TB plug-ins are not very positive...they make the behavior of TB sometimes very strange and unpredictable. Since I stopped using plug-ins, I've far less problems with TB. I've used K9, Spambayes and POPFile and my impression is that both Spambayes and POPFile learn quicker than K9.but before we start a new string about this...it's my personal observationso don't shoot me for that :-) -- Best regards, Dick ___ I'm not afraid to die. I just don't want to be there when it happens. Using The Bat! v3.0.9.17 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Privacy is your right...only if you defend it: http://www.metropipe.net/landing.cgi?id=cloggy Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Morphing subject selective filter
Hello rich, On 24 March 2005 at 11:06:24 GMT -0500 (which was 17:06:24 where I live), rich gregory wrote and made these valuable points on the subject of Morphing subject selective filter: Hello Bat-Folk! Using TB! v2.12.00... Since the filter interface will not let me selectively delete based on text in the body of the message I need to filter on a morphing subject line... Is there a way to add a selective download filter that will check for a match on, say 15, out of 20 or so characters in the subject line? I am getting hundreds of these a day: wicked [EMAIL PROTECTED] to keep you going wicked drug)s to keep you going wicked dr*ugs to keep you going wicked dr]ugs to keep you going wicked dru$gs to keep you going wicked drug$s to keep you going wicked dr/ugs to keep you going Sometimes the word wicked is fudged, sometimes other parts of the subject, but the phraseology is the same always. Thx RG Why don't you use a good spamfilter to get rid off these messages? In that case you only have to use a simple filter to move all these message to your Junk Mail folder. -- Best regards, Dick ___ There are three ways to get things done: do it yourself, hire someone to do it, or tell your kids not to do it. Using The Bat! v3.0.9.9 Return (pre-beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: More observation on Bayesit!
Hello Barry, On Monday, February 21, 2005 at 09:01:40 GMT + (which was 10:01:40 where I live), Barry wrote and made these valuable points on the subject of More observation on Bayesit!: Hi Well I'm still persevering! I've now transcribed 83 different regex rules over to Bayesit. I extracted them from my copy of MailWasher. Why all these problems and hassle if Spambayes can do all the work for you with just a little bit of training? -- Best regards, Dick ___ Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others.-- Groucho Marx Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG Certification Message
Hello Paul, On Monday, February 21, 2005 at 10:19:09 GMT -0600 (which was 17:19:09 where I live), Paul Stephen wrote and made these valuable points on the subject of AVG Certification Message: I am bamboozled. I get emails from others (not necessarily using The Bat!) that have this string embedded: No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.1.0 - Release Date: 18/02/2005 Is this text added automatically to The Bat messages or do I have to write my own macro to add this? (The AVG plug-in works fine.) In AVG 7 I have certify turned ON in both Incoming and Outgoing mail. I am still using Version 1.61 of The Bat! This signature is added by the AVG system if you select the option to do so. IMHO, it's totally ridiculous to add such a signature, especially when you have no attachment added. -- Best regards, Dick ___ Being in a nudist colony probably takes all the fun out of Halloween. Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: AVG Certification Message
Hello Paul, On Monday, February 21, 2005 at 11:54:51 GMT -0600 (which was 18:54:51 where I live), Paul Stephen wrote and made these valuable points on the subject of AVG Certification Message: Hello Dick, As I stated, I have VERIFY turned on in AVG for both INCOMING and OUTGOING mail but nothing is added. I thought this was the OPTION but no verification text is added to my emails. What's the trick? I stopped using AVG more than a year ago and as far as I can remember this signature is only supported for Outlook or Outlook/Express..maybe there are AVG guru's here who can confirm or correct this? -- Best regards, Dick ___ Fund = give money; amentalism = mindlessness. Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Why am I finding BayesIt so difficult?
Hello Barry, On Thursday, February 17, 2005 at 14:24:45 GMT + (which was 15:24:45 where I live), Barry wrote and made these valuable points on the subject of Why am I finding BayesIt so difficult?: On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:16:58 +0100, Roelof Otten wrote: Did you tell BayesIt where it should store its stuff? Options - Preferences - Anti-spam - BayesIt - Configure - Options Mail Washer Pro is beginning to look very attractive! :-) Also have a look at Spambayes. I switched to it after having a lot or problems with BayesIT and/or spammails were not flagged as such, even after a considerable training. The so called Nigeria emails were never flagged while with Spambayes I trained it with just 5 Nigeria emails and never another Nigeria email, despite the phantasy used by the senders, ended up in my Inbox. -- Best regards, Dick ___ Conservative: Someone who wants to keep what the liberals fought for a generation before. Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
GIF displayed in message?
Hi, My apologies for my ignorance but I'm getting (of course spam) emails with almost no text but just a gif included and this gif contains the real message text. I thought, but I might be wrong, that TB is supposed to suppress these gifs. Note that SpamBayes has flagged these email as spam, which is quite clever. Best regards, Dick -- ___ I don't trust anything that bleeds for five days and doesn't die. Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: K9 spam filter
Hello Gerard, On Tuesday, November 30, 2004 at 19:44:25 GMT +0100 (which was 19:44:25 where I live), Gerard wrote and made these valuable points on the subject of K9 spam filter: G ON Tuesday, November 30, 2004, 5:58:20 PM, you wrote: ASK Except for the nigeria connection scam mails of which I get at least two a ASK day on three accounts ATM. K9 repeatedly misses those. *sigh* G BayesFilter catches these for me nicely. G It is weak on other mails though :( That's why I stopped using a Bayes based filter. The spammers are getting very smart and know their ways to cheat these filters. I installed a challenge/response based spam filter and not a single spam mail got to my inbox since then (and that without training it ;-) ). -- Best regards, Dick ___ The older you get, the better you realize you were. Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: K9 spam filter
Hello Jernej, On Tuesday, November 30, 2004 at 22:18:06 GMT +0100 (which was 22:18:06 where I live), Jernej Simoncic wrote and made these valuable points on the subject of K9 spam filter: JS On Tuesday, November 30, 2004, 22:02:04, Dick H. wrote: That's why I stopped using a Bayes based filter. The spammers are getting very smart and know their ways to cheat these filters. I installed a challenge/response based spam filter and not a single spam mail got to my inbox since then (and that without training it ;-) ). JS No problems with bayesian filters here - OTOH, I ignore challenges from JS challenge-response systems, and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one. JS Nothing is more annoying than somebody asking you for help, and then, when JS you answer him, getting Please reply to this message to confirm or Click JS this link. (Well, there may be another, even more annoying thing - that is JS C/R systems that autosubscribe themselves to mailing lists, or C/R that JS challenges every poster to a mailing list). I fully understand your objections against such a system but there are challenge-response systems and challenge-response systems. Whenever I send a message to somebody (even when it is not yet in my address book) and this persons replies to my email, his answer will end up straight in my inbox and no message is being sent first for any confirmation. As I have loaded my address book in this filter, I haven't received any complaints from my friends, etc. (they simply don't know that I have such a filter active). What I have seen is that my blacklist is growing and growing with many spam email addresses. IMHO, I'm afraid that Bayes based spamfilters will lose the battle in the long run as the spammers will figure out ways to bypass it. -- Best regards, Dick ___ My uncle just turned 75. He never married, and someone asked him if it was because he had never found the perfect woman. 'I found her,' he said. 'But she was looking for the perfect man.' Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Picture in template?
Hi, does anybody know how to insert a picture in a template? The templates are plain text and I need to insert a .gif in there but can't find how to do that. Note that it must be in the text area and not as an attachment. -- Best regards, Dick Using The Bat! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Bayesit
Hello MikeD, On Tuesday, November 02, 2004 at 10:56:50 GMT -0500 (which was 16:56:50 where I live), MikeD (3) wrote and made these valuable points on the subject of Bayesit: Hello Dan, Tuesday, November 2, 2004, 8:46:34 AM, you wrote: DG Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:31:10 +0200 (6:31 AM EST here) Dave Thomas wrote: Where do I find the link to the latest [Bayesit] version www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/bayesit/bayesit073.rar Here is a more recent version: www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/bayesit/bayesit074.rar -- Best regards, Dick ___ Using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush + BayesIt! 0.7.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Auto Backup
Hello Tony, On Monday, November 01, 2004 at 09:50:58 GMT +0100 (which was 09:50:58 where I live), Tony wrote and made these valuable points on the subject of Auto Backup: Hallo vleermuisjes, I would like TB! to automatically make full backups of it's message base and setting at regular intervals. How can that be accomplished? A very good one and (the best of all) freeware: http://www.2brightsparks.com/syncback/syncback-hub.html -- Best regards, Dick It's is not, it isn't ain't, and it's it's, not its, if you mean it is. If you don't, it's its. Then too, it's hers. It isn't her's. It isn't our's either. It's ours, and likewise yours and theirs.-- Oxford University Press, Edpress News Using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush + BayesIt! 0.7.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
