Re: Problem with Spam Filter
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:25:06 +0200, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, you do that with selective download filters, those download the message headers and can kill the message from server before the full message will be downloaded. However, I've never used them myself as they lengthen the download time substantially, because the message headers will be downloaded twice, once to compare them with the selective download filters and a second time when the complete message is downloaded. With my message mix (lots of short messages) that isn't worth the trouble. Furthermore I don't kill on arrival and that's the only useful action for selective download filters. Fair enough. If someone had a dial up Internet connection and had lots of big spam messages come through, it sounds like this approach might be tailor made for them. 'Delete the message', that's the action listed right above 'Delete from server' My server does my spam marking, it adds a spam header and I've set TB to move those messages to a spam folder and mark them as read (you know that you can set multiple actions to a single filter, don't you) so I won't see it unless I'm browsing my spam folder to check for false spam marks. So that could be an option for you too. Thanks - most of my spam is unknown, but this particular address is nothing but, so I can safely set it to 'delete the message'. I can use the other approach for the spam (unknown) filter though. The blank lie isn't necessary, but it's supposed to consist of dash dash space on a single line, but as you aren't using TB on the list I can't comment on how to achieve that. Thanks - I'm using Agent via gmane. I've updated the signature block in the Agent options. Yes. Cool - I think different programs must adhere to a different standard. I've seen newsreader programs which work fine with the '--' (without space), but The Bat needs the space by the looks of it. Oh well, no problem. -- Regards, GG Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with Spam Filter
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:15:36 +0200, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo Chris, On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:00:08 +1000GMT (9-6-2008, 19:00 +0200, where I live), you wrote: C Today I received an email from Neco [EMAIL PROTECTED]. The C filter was triggered (the account log says that the email was C processed by Spam (Known). That's good, isn't it? ;-) Yes - it would seem that the filter is catching the message, which is great. C Problem is, the message was then delivered to my inbox (and it says C that in the same line in the account log also). Can anyone tell me C why the Action did not occur (delete from server)? Are you sure it still is present on your server? I think you misunderstood the meaning of the action. In order to decide whether the message matches the condition the message has to be downloaded. And all messages that are downloaded travel through the Inbox. As the only action that gets executed is deletion from the server, the downloaded copy stays put in the Inbox. Deletion from server is an action that's meant to be used when you keep your messages for x days on the server. The message has gone from the server - I have The Bat set to remove all messages on download anyway. I have misunderstood that option in the first place - I thought that it looked at the from address while the message was still on the server, and then would delete it without needing to download it. What actions do I need so that I never see the message in the first place? C -- Your signature delimiter isn't working properly. Ah nuts :( I'm not sure what the problem with it is - I set it to be the two dashes and then a blank line under that with my name a further line down. Ok, I've tried a change - does this one work any better? -- Regards, GG Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem with Spam Filter
Hi, I have a filter thus: Name: Spam (Known) Condition: Sender Contains @neco.com.au Action: Delete the Message from the Server Today I received an email from Neco [EMAIL PROTECTED]. The filter was triggered (the account log says that the email was processed by Spam (Known). Problem is, the message was then delivered to my inbox (and it says that in the same line in the account log also). Can anyone tell me why the Action did not occur (delete from server)? -- Regards, GG Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with Spam Filter
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:00:08 +1000, Grumpy Gamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today I received an email from Neco [EMAIL PROTECTED]. The Oops, list has munged the email. Let's try expanding it out a little: Neco less than sign newsletter at @ neco dot com dot au greater than sign -- Regards, GG Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Translated Version of The_batv38MANUAL.pdf Available?
Hi all, I'm guessing the answer is 'no', but would anyone happen to know if there is an English version of http://www.thebat.hu/Download/The_batv38MANUAL.pdf available? -- Regards, GG Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unknown CA Certificate Error
On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 00:05:49 +0100, Thorsten Kampe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TLS handshake failure Hi, You might try posting this query onto the beta list - there have been quite a few certificate related threads in there over the years, so it might be best to do a search there before you post (http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/ and type in your query into the search field - 'certificate' produces some hits, as does 'tls handshake'). Also, a quick search of the beta list produced this post (don't know if it will be of any help to you, but I thought I would post it anyway): http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg52247.html -- Regards, GG Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Location of Anti-Virus Plugin
On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 00:53:53 +, MFPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used to have that file but it disappeared all on its own when I upgraded to v4. Hi, Odd - I upgraded to v4 a few days ago, and it was still listed afterwards. Oh well, I ended up deleting it. I have NOD32 installed, I'll just have to hope that it wasn't a plugin NOD32 had installed, and that my emails continue to be virus scanned... -- Regards, GG Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Location of Anti-Virus Plugin
Hi everyone, Does anyone know where the location of the anti-virus plugins in The Bat is? I have an errant plugin (Generic DLL Plugin) listed in Options-AntiVirus (with a status of 'error') and I want to get rid of it if it isn't for an anti-virus I currently have installed. Problem is, I can't tell which AV it belongs to. If there is a setting in the registry or something that says C:\Program Files\AVG or something, I will be able to tell which AV it belongs to, and whether I can delete it or not. -- Regards, GG Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Location of Anti-Virus Plugin
On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:42:09 +0100, Marek Mikus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when is plugin created by its vendor, like AVG, Avast or Kaspersky, plugin is installed to antivirus home directory and program adds path to plugin into The Bat!'s TBPLUGIN.INI configuration file. If You have AVG instaled and You see Generic DLL Plugin in preferences, remove this one, hit Add and browse AVG direcctory for correct BAV file. Hi, Thanks, that is what I was after. Unfortunately, I use the OTFE built-in to The Bat, and that file is encrypted, so I can't read it :( (I don't have AVG installed by the way, I was just using it as an example of who this plugin may belong to as I have had AVG installed in the past - I removed it a while ago, and I was thinking that maybe the uninstallation didn't remove the plugin from The Bat) Maybe I should just risk it and delete the plugin from within The Bat? -- Regards, GG Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Column Widths
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:28:07 -0600, Stuart Cuddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Under Options/Preferences/Messages/View Modes do you by any chance have Ignore Changes selected at the bottom of the page? Hi Stuart, (Hope this reply gets through, I've been trying to reply to my other topic 'turning off delete below sig delimter' but none of my replies ever reach this list) There was something wrong there. The option was not checked, but I did try again to change the column widths. I ok'd the change, exited from The Bat and went back in - and wondered why all my columns had changed. Went back into view mode options to find that The Bat had deleted my custom columns setup entirely! So, I had to recreate it, and when I did, I was able to change the column width finally and have The Bat accept it. -- Regards, GG Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Column Widths
Hi, I'm trying to set the column widths in a view mode (one I set up) in The Bat options, but as soon as I make the change and ok it, The Bat reverts the column to the previously set size. Is this a known bug in The Bat? -- Regards, GG Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Turning off 'delete below sig delimiter' feature
On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:26:26 +0530, Mean Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Grumpy, When you reply to someone, how is it helpful to keep all text below *his* sig delimiter in your reply? Just a query that occurs to me. Hi, At work, we use Microsoft Outlook, which doesn't have this feature (i.e. it ignores the sig delimiter). This means that in a single email, unless you go in and snip some bits out, you will have the entire email history. Because of the amount of time I've been forced to use Outlook, I've become used to having the entire email history in the single message (with a number of backwards and forwards emails, sig delimiters will be on top of previous text in the message). I just wanted to have The Bat emulate the same behaviour. At the moment, with long emails, I have to keep multiple copies to get the entire history of the email because The Bat keeps cutting the bottom off each subsequent reply. -- Regards, GG Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Turning off 'delete below sig delimiter' feature
Hi everyone, Is there a setting in The Bat where you can disable the 'delete everything below the last signature delimiter when replying' feature? I can remove the sig delimiter from my messages, and that will help - but it won't help when other people use them (The Bat will still see the delimiter and will delete the stuff below it when you reply to a message). -- Regards, GG Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre Sorting
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:51:13 +0700, Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm getting the feeling the numbers are indeed in the order the server actually received them! I have a test account at myrealbox.com, where it sometimes takes days to receive a message. This messes up the creation date order of the messages. Can this be the same in your case? Hello Thomas, Yes, it is possible I suppose. I'll clean out all the messages in my account on the mail server (download them all to my PC and delete them from the server), and then I'll start fresh - I'll keep an eye on the emails as they arrive on the mail server and see if it starts to put the messages out of order again. -- Regards, GG Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre Sorting
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:19:43 +0700, Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I confirm this is the case over here, in the Despatcher. But this is exactly what Grumpy wants, so I am confused why they are sorted at random in his case. Hi, So am I - if the messages are meant to be assigned a number based on the time they were received, I can't work out why message #1 is from 17 December, message #2 is from 13 December, MEssage #3 is from 20 December etc. Ok, I can see there is an order to the message number in that it goes from 1 to 100 or whatever, but I can't see any relationship between the message date and the number it gets assigned! -- Regards, GG Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connection Centre Sorting
Hello TBUDL, When I open Connection Centre (Despatch all messages on the server), the messages are sorted in a seemingly random fashion. As far as I can tell, they aren't sorted by any of thecolumns listed in Connection Centre (so, Size, From, To, Subject or Time). I want the messages sorted by Time, latest message at the top - so I click on the Time column twice (first to sort by earliest message, then second time to sort by latest message). The problem is - as soon as Connection Centre is closed, the sort order is lost. So that when I next open Connection Centre, the sort order of the messages is back to the random way it was sorted the first time. So, can anyone tell me if it is possible to sort the Connection Centre by Time, permanently? -- Regards, GG Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre Sorting
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:57:10 +1100, Grumpy Gamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, can anyone tell me if it is possible to sort the Connection Centre by Time, permanently? And of course, by 'connection centre' I actually mean the 'Message Despatcher' (the window that pops up after the connection centre has completed checking the mail server). Sorry about that. -- Regards, GG Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html