Using the character too close to the margin
I've noticed that if I include an expression such as File Open and it occurs within about 20 characters of the left margin, The Bat does two things I don't like: It changes to the color of that line to the color I have selected for quoted text in replies. It takes the string of characters from the left margin to the character and REPEATS them on each succeeding line. Very frustrating. Any suggestions? I have my reply template set to use the character and no initials, and I'd rather not change that if there's another solution. Thanks. Take care, Orson = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice 707 778 9126 Fax 707 765 9440 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re[2]: Using the character too close to the margin
Thanks to all who responded. You gave me some things I can work with. Thanks! Orson Sunday, September 23, 2001, 2:13 PM, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Allie, On 23 September 2001 at 15:32:33 -0500 (which was 21:32 where I live) Allie C Martin wrote to Orson Kellogg on TBUDL and made these points: OK Any suggestions? I have my reply template set to use the OK character and no initials, and I'd rather not change that if OK there's another solution. ACM Set the quote name limit to zero or a smaller number (I suggest ACM no less that 3) to make this side effect less likely to get in ACM your way.. ... or take up the habit of using a space prefix to lines which include an early '' character to avoid any clash between it and quote prefixes. Changing the recognised size will also affect how quoted quotes appear when they have been originated by someone using a wider prefix. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user ~~~ \ BrainStorm - free thinking - www: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / . TB! v1.54 Beta/9-14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 . -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: GPG Sealed for freshness iD8DBQE7rlB1OeQkq5KdzaARAg4IAKDaXsgUjw77dfgMO8P5fqtH8b6NwACg5Ddd WhVA81+u6hhDhvDH2X6RngE= =UPxk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Consistent indent
Here's a question that I've puzzled over: Sometimes when I hit Tab, I get an indent of X spaces (not sure how big). Yet another time, within the same message, I hit Tab again, and this time the indent is different. There's probably a simple answer, but I haven't figured it out. How can I have consistent indents? Thanks. Take care, Orson = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice 707 778 9126 Fax 707 765 9440 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re[2]: Norton AV and TB
Hi Nick, Yes, mail is used for both SMTP server and Mail Server -- it works and it's what was recommended by ATT. Maybe I have to enter the full address for my mail servers? Orson I have ATT @Home, and with this ISP the name we enter for mail server is simply mail. I believe that is where your problem may lie. Simply typing mail should not work... it has to be mail.server name. What have you listed as your SMTP Server? Are you able to send messages with just mail as you SMTP Server name? -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Some eval questions
Dave, A side question: Do you remember the format you used for exporting from Outlook? I'm now considering doing that. Thanks. Orson Wednesday, June 27, 2001, 4:28 PM, you wrote: I know that when I first started using TB! I could not import directly from my Outlook 2000. I had to export from Outlook into a format that TB! could import. That might end up being your best bet. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
How to copy address book
I have The Bat at home and recently installed The Bat at work, and I want to copy my much-more-complete address book from home to work. It looks like I just need to copy one file: TheBAT.ABD (and overwrite the one that's on my office PC now). Is that all there is to it? Thanks for any info and advice. Take care, Orson = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice 707 778 9126 Fax 707 765 9440 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[4]: Colour groups?
Actually, you can display the label for a colour group and sort by colour groups. Very similar to Eudora, I believe. To view the label of a colour group, choose View Message List Columns. In the Available Items list, select Colour Group and move it to Selected Items using the button. To sort by a colour group, click the Colour Group header at the top of the message list. (For this to work, you cannot also be viewing threads, I have found.) Orson Monday, July 31, 2000, 8:23 PM, you wrote: are similar to what are called labels in Eudora. In Eudora labels can be named and are then a column in the preview pane and mail can be sorted by label. I don't think you can do that with a colour group. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Corrupt TBI file -- should I use a backup?
Yesterday morning as I was reading a message, a dialog box appeared and announced that the "messages.tbi" file was corrupt and I should run chkdsk. (Windows NT 4, SP 5.) I closed all my apps, rebooted, and during the boot chkdsk ran (I guess WinNT sensed that it needed to be run?). During the chkdsk process, I saw several messages indicating "deleting corrupt file record segment" and several instances of "deleting index entry." Back in Windows, I launched The Bat! and it behaved normally. (I also checked and found that messages.tbi is the file name used in every mail folder, so of course I don't know *which* one was corrupt.) I've been using The Bat! for the past 24 hours since getting the message without any problems, but I admit I'm a little nervous. Should I use a backup of *all* mail folders from the day before the corruption occurred? Am I risking some recurrence and lost messages? Or, if everything is behaving normally now, am I being a nervous Nellie for even wondering? Thanks in advance for any advice from the veteran The Bat! users. Orson = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice 707 778 9126 Fax 707 765 9440 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Three weeks of mail--gone!
Related to backing up I'd like to diverge a bit to point out an advantage of The Bat! over some other email programs (partly for Katsmeow's benefit): The attachments are stored separately from the messages, in their own folder. When I back up The Bat!, I just back up the MAIL folder, not the ATTACHMENTS folder. In most cases, I've already copied attachments somewhere else and if they were worth backing up, I probably have backed them up where I saved them -- for instance, as part of files for a given project. When I don't have to back up all the megabytes of attachments, my backup process goes much faster and doesn't require *nearly* as much disk space. By contrast, Pegasus Mail and a number of other email programs store attachments with messages, and your mail folders can grow huge just because of having big attachments. Orson Saturday, July 15, 2000, 8:46 AM, you wrote: Hi Mitch, And, back to my original question: is there anything I can do FROM WITHIN THE BAT! to prevent future message losses? Anything I can do to recover the three weeks of messages which are no longer showing up in my mailbox, but which (fingers crossed) might still be hidden somewhere in my mail archive? What I do is to leave mail on server for one day, and I backup my mail (in fact, all my data) to my CDRW on a daily basis. Should anything goes wrong, I restore yesterday's mail base, and re-retrieve all mail since last backup via mail dispatcher. If you don't do backup (you should), the safest way that can be done purely within TB is to setup a backup account (which share the same POP3 settings with your main account). Check the "leave mail on server" (for x days, if you don't want it there forever) option in both accounts. You don't need to recreate all the folders and filters for the backup account. All mail is left in the Inbox. Should the main account loose mail, you restore the lost part from the backup account. To save space, you may setup the Inbox for the backup account to hold mail for x days only, and the x-day's worth of mail would be the insurance you have. Still, backup often is my top recommendation. With that, you don't loose any sleep (except maybe staying up for the restore job) however badly your computer or any application screws up. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Newbie questions
Thursday, July 13, 2000, 11:42 AM, you wrote: 1. What is a "colour group"? How do you use it and how do you create it? I feel like I must have missed this in the help file but have not found anything so either it isn't there or I didn't know it when I read about it. Colour groups are essentially the same as labels in Eudora. TB also lets you change the font as well as the color, however. You can choose whether to view the label associated with each color or just the in the list of message color (View Message List Columns). 2. What is the purpose of flagging a message? Is it only that it puts a red flag next to the message? I use flags to mark messages that I want to get back to later for various reasons. The big advantage of the flag is that I can search for all my flagged messages, throughout my account, and thereby find messages that I wanted to deal with but which may be tucked away in various folders. 3. Is there anything in The Bat comparable to labels in Eudora? If so, what? Color groups. Take care, Orson -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Newbie questions
As a cautious type, I tend to wait till after beta before trying software. Can anyone list some of the new features in the beta? I'm curious. Thanks. Orson Thursday, July 13, 2000, 4:48 PM, you wrote: On Thursday, July 13, 2000, 4:43:56 PM, Katsmeow wrote: K I am a longtime Eudora user trying out The Bat. K X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.44) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 I don't know how some of the other more experienced TB! Users feel about it, but if I were checking out TB! for the first time, I'd lean toward installing the latest Beta: http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/beta.html as that would give you the most up to date list of features. -=Nick Andriash=- [ TB! v1.45 Beta/6 | PGP 6.5.3 | Win 98 4.10 ] PGP Keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendPGPKey _ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: ZDNet Shareware Awards
Paula, You've got me! I tried AllegroMail and was mainly impressed by how ordinary it is. Another me-too email program. Orson Saturday, July 08, 2000, 1:20 PM, you wrote: Hello All, How is it that a 9M bloat like AllegroMail could be selected as a ZDNet Shareware Awards finalists, while TB is overlooked? http://www.zdnet.com/downloads/zdawards/00/emnech00.html -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Tell me your experience with mono-spaced fonts
Nick, Thanks for your response to my query. And yes, I would like to see the font you mentioned, which is not on my PC. Thank you! Orson Sunday, July 02, 2000, 11:11:05 PM, you wrote: Nick On Sunday, July 02, 2000, 10:04:18 PM, Orson Kellogg wrote: OK For those of you who have been using The Bat! for awhile now, did you OK at first find the font limitation a strong negative factor, but you've OK gotten accustomed to it? In fact, does it *possibly* even seem easier OK to read than proportional fonts, for any of you? Nick I can't really add anything to what you have already stated... Other Nick than it's the absolute truth! At first I was crying the blues about not Nick having access to proportional fonts, so I chose the best of the Nick fixed-width I could find, which turned out to be Lucida Sans Typewriter. Nick It didn't take too long to really start appreciating the WYSIWYG Editor Nick in TB!, and the font began to grow on me, to where I now have the font Nick in use in every single Program I have. You are absolutely correct in Nick your prediction... it IS easier to read than any proportional font. Nick Version 2.0 is supposed to support proportional fonts, but I will be Nick staying with my Lucida Sans Typewriter. If you can't find it on your Nick System, write me and I'll send you the font so you can try/see for Nick yourself. OK Just looking for some advice/encouragement. I think this program is OK very very strong in just about every other way. Fast, powerful, very OK capable. Nick Again, you speak nothing but the truth. I don't think one ever stops Nick learning with TB!, as you find features/strengths that you never dreamed Nick existed. I'm very happy with my purchase, and am really looking forward Nick to the upcoming Beta series. Nick Nick Nick--=N.J. (Nick) Andriash=-- Nick PGP Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nick Owner ~ http://www.egroups.com/group/PGP-Basics Nick To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nick --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Tell me your experience with mono-spaced fonts
I'd like some advice. I've been evaluating The Bat! and find a lot to like, but the mono-spaced font limitation is gnawing at me. (I really appreciate good typography and good graphic design, for one thing, and a typewriter-like typeface seems not only ugly but harder to read.) For those of you who have been using The Bat! for awhile now, did you at first find the font limitation a strong negative factor, but you've gotten accustomed to it? In fact, does it *possibly* even seem easier to read than proportional fonts, for any of you? Just looking for some advice/encouragement. I think this program is very very strong in just about every other way. Fast, powerful, very capable. Orson = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice 707 778 9126 Fax 707 765 9440 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
