Re[2]: I need help from a specialist, urgent !!!

[Peter Hampf]

Good evening Claude,

on Fri, 20 May 2005 20:54:56 +0200 GMT your local time you wrote:

CR> I could not use Thunderbird because I'm blind and it is not accessible.

Wow! I am impressed. You manage to deal with the computer as anybody else.
Respect!

Back to your problem. Just to check your report I have removed the SecureBat 2
eToken installation on my notebook and replaced it with TheBat 3.5 Pro. (Which
was a problematic procedure, by the by.) For the daily work I am using TheBat
3.5 with iKey 1000 on my desktop. On the eToken installation I have also
updated the Aladin driver with the latest one recommended by Max Masiutin.
After done this I tried in both installations to store an account password on
the token.

With identical results:

!20.05.2005, 22:05:53: SEND  - Message has not been sent. Server reply - must 
be authenticated

It seems that TB is unable to pass the authentification data to the server if
we store the password on the token, no matter whether eToken or iKey.

Since this is a highly technical issue, we should pass this thread to Max.
Maybe he can give us some more hints on what to check out or what we are doing
wrong. Or - the best chance  - he can fix this issue.

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Re: I need help from a specialist, urgent !!!

[Peter Hampf]

Good evening Claude,

on Fri, 20 May 2005 18:59:55 +0200 GMT your local time you wrote:

CR> Message has not been sent. Server reply - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
CR> Recipient address rejected: Access denied

It's hard to believe that this has something to do with TB but with your
providers settings.

Have you tried using another client (e.g. Thunderbird, very good for testing
purposes) to send a message to yourself? What does it say?

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Re[2]: Usage of %CLEAR macro in QTs

[Peter Hampf]

Good evening Alexander,

on Thu, 19 May 2005 18:23:42 +0200 GMT your local time you wrote:

ASK> Surprising that the position of %CLEAR in the QT is not important... not
ASK> very logic if you ask me.

That has been always true, AFAICR.

ASK> Should I file a bug report?

Regarding the %clear%- behaviour at the top of the QT, YES please.

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Re[2]: Usage of %CLEAR macro in QTs

[Peter Hampf]

Hello MAU,

on Thu, 19 May 2005 01:56:30 +0200 GMT your local time you wrote:

M> ,- [ QT1 ]
M> | %CLEAR
M> | This QT will work as expected.
M> `-

M> but

M> ,- [ QT2 ]
M> | %CLEAR%-
M> | This one will do what you are seeing.
M> `-

as of my tests it also depends on WHERE you write the "%clear%-" sequence.

If it appears anywhere inside the QT or - as in my case - at the end, it works
like expected and documented. If it appears at the top of the QT it shows the
bug (I think it is a bug) as described by Alexander.

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Re[2]: Popup menu quirk

[Peter Hampf]

Good evening Costas,

on Sun, 15 May 2005 21:09:29 +0300 GMT your local time you wrote:

>> Did you notice that if no text is selected, the context menu
>> (right-click) shows next to "Copy..."

CP> Correction: It should be "Copy to..."

Not confirmed here. It correctly shows "Alt+Ins" as shortcut right to the
greyed "Copy to..." item.

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Re[4]: Buying The Bat! pro

[Peter Hampf]

Hello Marek,

Monday, May 9, 2005, 10:40:27 AM, you wrote:

MM> iKey1000 is currently supported only.

To my knowledge that is correct.

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Re[2]: Buying The Bat! pro

[Peter Hampf]

Good evening Claude,

on Sun, 8 May 2005 22:04:46 +0200 GMT your local time you wrote:

PH>> Both, iKey and eToken, are supported.

CR> Yes, I know but the default one, the one which is sold on the website is
CR> the ikey1000 or the other ?

AFAIK the upcoming version of TB Pro will support both simultaneously.

CR> Do we have the choice ?

AFAIK yes.

CR> And for a french user, where to buy it ?

Sorry, no recommendation.

You already own the professional version, so the only thing you have to do is
to find a dealer for an iKey or an eToken.

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Re: Buying The Bat! pro

[Peter Hampf]

Good evening Claude,

on Sun, 8 May 2005 21:17:53 +0200 GMT your local time you wrote:

CR> 1. When we buy The Bat! pro nowadays, do we have the Ikey1000 version or
CR> the Etoken one ?

Both, iKey and eToken, are supported.

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Re: order of messages in message list using threaded view

[Peter Hampf]

Good evening MFPA,

on Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:42:46 +0100 GMT your local time you wrote:

M> I want the replies displayed oldest first but they are generally
M> displayed most recent first instead.

I strongly second your motion!

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Re: OT: Getting hitched, ball-and-chained, de-bachelorized etc.

[Peter Hampf]

Good evening Leif,

on Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:46:15 -0600 GMT your local time you wrote:

LG> Well friends, the time has come.. Rachel and I will be married this
LG> Saturday, the 9th, at 6:30pm.

Wow ... ! What a ballsy man you are! :-)

You are worthy of a MEGA trout, aren't you? 

To be honest: All the best to you and Rachel - may the force be with you! ;)

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Re: %TOFNAME

[Peter Hampf]

Good evening Stuart,

on Sat, 12 Feb 2005 08:41:27 -0600 GMT your local time you wrote:

SC> Why is this and how do I fix it?

Use this:

Hello %ABTOFirstName(%TOFName),

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Re: Gmane archives X-Archive header set with %SetHeader("X-Archive", "expiry=0")

[Peter Hampf]

Hello Greg,

on Fri, 28 Jan 2005 01:17:59 -0600 GMT your local time you wrote:

GS> I thought Gmane was NOT suppose to archive my messages. After I saw my
GS> email showing up in Gmane I went back and checked. It looks like they
GS> show up from the middle of November '04. I have not changed the
GS> X-Archive header.

Yep! Confirmed :-((

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Re: The Bat! 1.62r

[Peter Hampf]

Good evening Drago,

on Tue, 25 Jan 2005 22:15:38 + (UTC) GMT your local time you wrote:

D> a while ago now i thought i read somewhere that The Bat! 1.62r was now 
freeware
D> or you need to register in order to get the serial, but i cant find anything 
about
D> this, did i imagine it? if i didn't, can anyone post a link to the info 
please

I don't think that it's freeware - but it had been published at least on a cd 
in a
german computer magazine (com!) in 11/04 along with a serial number and a 
password.

IMO it's still commercial software, so I think it is not allowed to publish this
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Re[2]: on the fly encryption

[Peter Hampf]

Good evening Allie,

on Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:27:40 -0500 GMT your local time you wrote:

A> Be sure that you're running a TB! version that supports OTFE.

Hey, Allie, Man! I'll call you Eagle-Eye from now on! :-))

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Re[2]: on the fly encryption

[Peter Hampf]

Hello Darrin,

on Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:56:24 -0800 GMT your local time you wrote:

DR> Any ideas?

No, sorry.

You are sure that you simply ran thebat.exe after removing the registry tree? 
You
don't have to *install* the package again. Simply run the already installed
executable!

If I recall correctly, the very first question is whether to use OTFE.

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Re[2]: on the fly encryption

[Peter Hampf]

Good evening Darrin,

additional hint: before removing the registry tree "the bat!" make a backup 
copy by
exporting this tree! (Just for all cases...)

You can do this with this command:

  reg export "HKCU\Software\Rit\The Bat!" \path\original-bat.reg


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Re[2]: on the fly encryption

[Peter Hampf]

Good evening Darrin,

on Wed, 12 Jan 2005 07:41:13 -0800 GMT your local time you wrote:

DR> Thanks. Ill give it a try. I do this after I uninstall tb and before I
DR> reinstall it? Is that correct?

No. You don't have to uninstall it.

Simply make a backup of all your data and do it!

After running the batch simply call thebat.exe, insert all data and restore your
backup.

That's it.

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Re[2]: on the fly encryption

[Peter Hampf]

Hello Darrin,

on Wed, 12 Jan 2005 07:16:41 -0800 GMT your local time you wrote:

DR> I think Im not cleaning the registry enough here, because my license
DR> is still activated with it. Any tips on this?

If you are running WinXP, execute this from the command line:

 reg delete "HKCU\Software\Rit\The Bat!" /f

(copy and paste it exactly as shown!)

Or write it to a plain ascii file called "delbat.bat" and double-click it.

Alternatively run regedit.exe, navigate to the key 
"HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Rit"
and remove the COMPLETE tree "The Bat!". (Caution! Do not remove anything else!)

Then start thebat.exe. The first (or one of the first) questions will be 
whether you
want to use OTFE.

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Re[2]: on the fly encryption

[Peter Hampf]

Hello Gerard,

Wednesday, January 12, 2005, 11:05:04 AM, you wrote:

G> Since you have it installed, can you see if it already works with a hardware
G> token to and if so which kind.

It works with Rainbow iKey 1000 and Aladin eToken - both active and
working VERY VERY stable here for a few years, first with SecureBat and
now with its successor TheBat Pro 3.x.

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Re[2]: on the fly encryption

[Peter Hampf]

Good evening Thorvald,

on Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:55:13 +0100 GMT your local time you wrote:

TN> Sorry, I can set account passwords for my accounts.
TN> But I do not (yet) have OTFE enabled.

Enable it and you will loose this functionality!

Account passwords are only available *without* OTFE.

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Re[3]: on the fly encryption

[Peter Hampf]

Good evening Andrew,

on Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:37:48 -0500 GMT your local time you wrote:

A> This would be just for the Pro?

Yes. Only the Pro version supports on the fly encryption.

Hint: The Pro version does NOT support account passwords!

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Re[2]: on the fly encryption

[Peter Hampf]

Good evening Gerard,

on Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:39:29 +0100 GMT your local time you wrote:

G> I assume you are usin it.

Yes. Since ages.

G> Does it slow down processing (getting and filtering) emails?

No. Definitely not.

G> How often do you need to enter the PW?

Once at startup.

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Re: on the fly encryption

[Peter Hampf]

Hello K0rneliuz,

on Tue, 11 Jan 2005 07:35:40 -0500 GMT your local time you wrote:

KVSX> I'm not seeing this option in the bat, can someone point me to where it 
is?

- make a full backup
- quit TB
- remove the registry tree HKCU/Software/Rit/TheBat!
- start TB, choose OTFE from the dialog, insert all neccessary data but do not 
create an account
- restore the data (from your previously created backup) during install dialog.

Ready to go.

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Re[2]: Expanding threads

[Peter Hampf]

Good evening Watcher,

on Sun, 26 Dec 2004 15:33:35 -0500 GMT your local time you wrote:

>> +
W>   I've been searching for that forever, sheesh

and I am missing urgently a hotkey to expand a single thread while you are 
reading a
message *inside* this thread (+ only works from the current message down) 
and
also one to collapse a thread (again, - only works from the level of the
currently marked message). Also a hotkey to collapse ALL threads as an opposite 
to
* would be very useful.

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Re[2]: copying msg with short headers

[Peter Hampf]

Hello Jan,

on Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:44:46 -0500 GMT your local time you wrote:

JR> Hi Peter. Thanks so much! A wonderful Christmas present.

;-) I'm glad that you're satisfied.

JR> Happy Holidays to you.

Same to you.

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Re: copying msg with short headers

[Peter Hampf]

Good evening Jan,

on Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:20:58 -0500 GMT your local time you wrote:

JR> Is there any way of copying a msg to the clipboard so that it
JR> shows basic header info, i.e. from, to, date, subject w/o first
JR> saving msg as text file?

Yes, it is.

Download the XMP Plugin at http://www.gaijin.at/download/thebat/xmp.rar.

Then create a quick-template like this (just a q&d hack):

/°° [ sc ] °°
| %XMP_SetClipB("%-
| %XMP_StrC(#%-
| From: %OfromName <%OFROMADDR>\w%-
| To:   %OtoName <%OTOADDR>\w%-
| Date: %ODate\w%-
| Subj: %OSubj\w\w%-
| %text#)")%-
\

Name it for example "sc". Then reply to a message, write "sc" and 
the
content you wanted is placed in the clipboard.

You can verify the output by expanding the template like this:

/°° [ sc2 ] °
| %XMP_SetClipB("%-
| %XMP_StrC(#%-
| From: %OfromName <%OFROMADDR>\w%-
| To:   %OtoName <%OTOADDR>\w%-
| Date: %ODate\w%-
| Subj: %OSubj\w\w%-
| %text#)")%-
| %clipboard
\

Then reply to a message, press  to mark the complete text, write
"sc" and have a look at the output.

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Re[2]: Date of a sent message ?

[Peter Hampf]

Good evening Roelof,

on Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:59:58 +0200 GMT your local time you wrote:

RO> As you can see in my messages in this thread, I'm not quite in favour
RO> of people doing this like you're suggesting.

well,  Roelof, I can understand your point of view - and it isn't a new one.
In  Fidonet  this discussion lasted at least 10 years :-) Of course, without
any  well accepted result.

In  general  I  agree  that  no  software shall alter a message. But isn't a
message also altered in transit by adding header lines? I really trust in TB
*because*  it saves messages exactly that way the user wrote it and does not
alter it before or after sending.

But!  If  I (the user) instruct TB to add a special header after sending the
message  then it happens on my request, with my knowledge. It is exactly the
way *I* want it to be and therefore TB should be allowed to do so. Of course
as an option which is inactive by default.

RO> But as usual it is possible to do what you want with a
RO> filter, the filter below will do what you want:

Yes, that is possible but very unhandy. A simple switch would make life much
easier ;-) and wouldn't have all the drawbacks your filter has.

Let  me  make  a  third  suggestion:  The  best  way to keep track about the
date/time  a  message  has  actually  been  sent would be an addition to the
database.  TB  must  only  save  the references to the sent messages and the
date/time  of  sending. This information could, for example, be displayed in
the headers context menu.

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Re[3]: Date of a sent message ?

[Peter Hampf]

Good evening WilWilWil,

on Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:35:20 +0200 GMT your local time you wrote:

W> How to make this kludge automatically ?

by asking Max or 9Val or another developer to add support for it :)

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Re[2]: Date of a sent message ?

[Peter Hampf]

Good evening MFPA,

on Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:41:48 +0100 GMT your local time you wrote:

>> What about another kludge "X-Deliverydate: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:11:22 +0200"

M> Or perhaps "x-sentdate:" as TB probably has no way of knowing when
M> it will be delivered.

that's a case of definition. When TB "sents" the message to the host defined
in the account settings, it has *delivered* the mail.

But that's splitting hairs. Any kludge would be useful ...

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Re[2]: Date of a sent message ?

[Peter Hampf]

Good evening Gerard,

on Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:38:36 +0200 GMT your local time you wrote:

G> If you want to see the date, created or received/send, you can select to
G> display that. Just right-click in the part above the email text in the
G> pre-view window and select headers.

G> Or am I misinterpreting all this.

there  is no such field as "date/time sent". You can just see the "received"
or  "created"  date  or - in case of the sent folder - the "date saved", but
not the date the message had actually been delivered.

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Re: Date of a sent message ?

[Peter Hampf]

Hello WilWilWil, (nice name :-) )

on Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:11:22 +0200 GMT your local time you wrote:

W> Is there an automatically way to add this date and time somewhere in the mail 
itself ?

AFAIK there is no such method, but it is a nice and *useful* idea! I second
that.

What about another kludge "X-Deliverydate: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:11:22 +0200"
(or so...)?

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Re: Saving filter

[Peter Hampf]

Hello Fabrizio,

on Wed, 22 Dec 1999 13:18:25 +0700 GMT your local time you wrote:

FI> I set up many of them but when I close the program they disappear
FI> (i.e. I do not find them when opening it again). Did I miss any
FI> "save" button somewhere?

I had the same problem when upgrading from 1.36 to 1.38/beta. I had to
delete the file ACCOUNT.SRX and the problem was gone. Try it! (Exit
The Bat! first before removing the file in the account's directory.)

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Forced CR/LF (was: Solution to %DATE and %TIME macro problem.)

[Peter Hampf]

Hello Stefan,

MDP> It's  good but comes with its' own problems. Every reference to such a
MDP> %QINCLUDE  macro  in a template has the added burden of a forced CR/LF
MDP> in  the  text  wherever one is used. I have noticed this with %INCLUDE
MDP> macros recently too. They didn't used to do that.

MDP> Is this, in fact, a bug?

The same is true for %CLEAR which should not insert a cr/lf pair in
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