In TheBat 4.1.11, the backup file didn't get compressed
To my surprise, my .tbk backup file (using 4.1.11) was about 3 times as large as before. After I cleaned out and compressed the folders, it got back down to normal, but why would the backup not be automatically minimized? If the user doesn't realize that it's not minimized, the backups could waste a lot of space on the backup media. Randy Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Server reports error...Enter message, ending with .
Hello Randy, On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 04:47:10 +0100 (MET) GMT (01/12/2003, 10:47 +0700 GMT), Randy Burns wrote: I tried to send a specific RAR file, attached to an email using MIME, and got this error message every time I tried to send. I tried to send it about three times. It always stopped sending at the exact same place (I think) with about 10% sent. My solution was to compress it with ZIP instead, and send it without any problem, but I'm curious about whether this error is common, and what exactly happened? How big is the uncompressed file, and how big is the zipped file? Just a guess, but maybe your SMTP server decides after a certain size that enough is enough and assumes that the end is nigh, but cannot find the full-stop there. -- Cheers, Thomas. The file was about 900 KB, or 1.2 MB when converted to MIME. I've sent RAR files (as attachments) at least that big before and never had a problem, but I assume that the MIME translation created some type of flag--somewhere--that the server didn't like. A fluke. It may never happen again, so I'm not going to worry about it till it does. :-) Thanks for your help. Randy -- R Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] HoHoHo! Seid Ihr auch alle schön brav gewesen? GMX Weihnachts-Special: Die 1. Adresse für Weihnachts- männer und -frauen! http://www.gmx.net/de/cgi/specialmail +++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More! +++ Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Server reports error...Enter message, ending with .
Was using TheBat 2.01.3. Any ideas about why this happened: I tried to send a specific RAR file, attached to an email using MIME, and got this error message every time I tried to send. I tried to send it about three times. It always stopped sending at the exact same place (I think) with about 10% sent. My solution was to compress it with ZIP instead, and send it without any problem, but I'm curious about whether this error is common, and what exactly happened? !11/29/2003, 15:14:46: SEND - Server reports error. The response is: Enter message, ending with . on a line by itself !11/29/2003, 15:14:46: SEND - Server reports error. The response is: Enter message, ending with . on a line by itself 11/29/2003, 15:22:30: SEND - sending mail messages - 2 messages in queue Thanks, Randy -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Neu bei GMX: Preissenkung für MMS-Versand und FreeMMS! Ideal für alle, die gerne MMS verschicken: 25 FreeMMS/Monat mit GMX TopMail. http://www.gmx.net/de/cgi/produktemail +++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More! +++ Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Message was viewable in 1.62r; not viewable in 200.6
This type of message (from a different mailing list) used to show up in the message auto-view pane (in v. 1.62r) but is NOT viewable in the auto-view pane of v. 200.6. Is there some option that I don't know about? Thanks, Randy message format: - X-Apparently-To: * Return-Path: * Received: * Received: * Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 02:32:05 GMT Message-Id: * MIME-Version: 1.0 To: * Subject: * From: * Content-ID: * (an email address) Content-type: text/ascii Content-Description: An object packed by metasend Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable text -- NEU FÜR ALLE - GMX MediaCenter - für Fotos, Musik, Dateien... Fotoalbum, File Sharing, MMS, Multimedia-Gruß, GMX FotoService Jetzt kostenlos anmelden unter http://www.gmx.net +++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More! +++ Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Benefits of registration?
snip Also, is the boxed-set worth paying for? I mean, is the book that is included in it worth having? IF so, why? I don't know about any upcoming versions, but I have to say that the current user's guide book (in the the boxed version) is not much help at all. --- These web pages give much more information than the printed guide: The Bat: Help Pages http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/hlp/ The Bat's (un)documented shortcuts http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut_eng.html The Bat: Filtering http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/filtering.html The Bat: Templates http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/templates.html The Bat: Macros http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/macros.html --- I'm GONNA register, I just have to decide which way to do it. -- Best regards, Geordon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] All the best, -- R Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
OT: Changes at GMX
For those who are interested in GMX free email: - Start Forwarded Message - From: GMX [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Alle Mitglieder von GMX [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: GMX International Dear GMX member, as you are a user of our e-mail services, you might know that GMX is a company based in Munich, Germany. Despite the international reach of the Internet and irrespective of globalisation our user statistics reflect the fact that we are a German-based company: More than 97 percent of our members state that German is their mother tongue. In view of the global nature of the Internet we have so far offered our main features in various languages. However, the design, the host of features and security standards of our multi-lingual website are no longer state-of-the art and do not meet the high standard we set for the German site. From an economic point of view it seems not reasonable to us to adapt our multilingual webpages. For this reason, we have finally decided to give up the international versions as of January 31, 2002. Please be informed that your e-mail address is still available after this date. You can use your adress under the same domain as in the past. You can further use an external mail program or enjoy the whole range of features GMX offers on the German website. Maybe you take this as an opportunity to brush up your knowledge of German a bit. We appreciate your understanding for this decision and would be happy to welcome you again on our website. Kind regards Your GMX team Liebes GMX Mitglied, wie Sie als Nutzer einer GMX e-mail-Adresse wahrscheinlich wissen, ist GMX ein in Deutschland ansässiges Unternehmen. Trotz aller vielbeschworener Globalisierung und ungeachtet der Tatsache, dass das Internet keine Nationalitäten und Grenzen kennt, schlägt sich dies sehr deutlich in unserer Statistik nieder: Als Muttersprache haben 97% unserer Mitglieder Deutsch angegeben. Um dem globalen Charakter des Internet Rechnung zu tragen, haben wir die Kernfunktionen unseres Dienstes bisher auch in anderen Sprachen angeboten; allerdings auf einer Oberfläche, die weder in Design noch in Funktionsumfang und Sicherheitsaspekten dem aktuellen Entwicklungsstand von GMX entspricht. Eine Anpassung der fremdsprachigen Oberflächen würde einen wirtschaftlich nicht zu rechtfertigenden Arbeitsaufwand bedeuten. Wir haben uns deshalb schweren Herzens dazu entschlossen, die internationalen Versionen von GMX am 31.1.2002 einzustellen. Dies bedeutet selbstverständlich nicht(!!), dass Ihre e-mail-Adressen damit ungültig werden. Sie können diese weiterhin unter der selben Domain wie bisher nutzen, Ihren Account mit einem e-mail-Programm abfragen oder auf der deutschen Weboberfläche den vollen Funktionsumfang von GMX genießen - und dabei vielleicht sogar ein wenig eingerostete Deutschkenntnisse aufpolieren. Wir danken für Ihr Verständnis und würden uns freuen, wenn Sie GMX dennoch treu bleiben! Mit freundlichen Grüßen Ihr GMX Team - End Forwarded Message - -- R Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: making an account
While not free ($30.00 US / year), Runbox.com is very good. It has POP, filtering, and forwarding--with 100MB of storage. Randy -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It was foretold that on 9-1-2002 @ 12:16:08 GMT-0800 (which was 21:16 where I live) Melissa Reese wrote and spread these wise comments on making an account: MR Since this is quite OT for this list, I'll be happy to hear about your MR reasons for such masochistic email behavior on TBOT. ;-) No need to because they are private (as in privacy) and not of a functional nature as in OE compatibility etc... (not work and/or pc related reasons). But you are right, it's quite OT. :-) - -- Best regards, Lucmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.53d on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 snip -- R Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Dealing with TBUDL List Volume using GMX
I thought I would share my technique for pre-filtering TBUDL messages (getting just the original questions sent to my standard email account, without so many reply messages). I filter-out the replys, and just send the original question emails to my standard email server. Then, if the topic is interesting, which most are, I can go find all the replies on that topic. My TBUDL messages go to a free GMX (web) email account ( http://www35.gmx.net/v4/login?LANG=uk ), where I use these filters (below). Messages with Re: or Re[2]: are stored locally, and others are forwarded to my standard email account (to give me a heads-up on current topics on TBUDL). USING: Options / Mailbox / Forwarding / Paging ORDERED FILTERS: RULE / ACTIVE / CONDITION(S) / ACTION(S) *batre2* / YES / Subject contains Re[2]: / Save in: Batbox --- Stop rules processing here *bat* / YES / Any field contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] AND Subject does not contain Re: / Forward to: STANDARD EMAIL (READ WITH THE BAT) --- Stop rules processing here *batre* / YES / Any field contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] / Save in: Batbox --- Stop rules processing here Best to all, Randy -- R Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Registration Question (boxed ver.)
From: Alan Poulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Randy Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Registration Question (boxed ver.) Monday, December 31, 2001, 9:49:58 AM, Randy Burns wrote: How long should I wait for a reply to an emailed registration form before I decide that my registration attempt didn't work? I'm trying to register a boxed disk version. When trying to update the disk's ver. 1.49f to ver. 1.53d, I seem to need that registration password, etc. My registration took a week or slightly more. But then I had to mail payment in from Canada, and the mail apparantly got forwarded to the wrong department or something.. Or was it that it went to the right place, but they forgot to tell the other people to send me an email with my registration code. But I would just send them an email asking them if payment was received and eventually I got the reply back. heh. Canada? I would have never guessed. heh. Don't forget it's the holidays right now, so it might be a bit slower than normal. You're right. I got my key today with some help from the U.S. distributor (cifnet.com) -- - Alan Poulton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Using The Bat! v1.53d on Windows 98 4.90 Build 3000 Thanks to Alan and all who replied. -- R Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
autocomplete question
I was able to turn off autocomplete (for the To: box--I hate autocomplete) in the registry (with regedit), but is there an option menu that does the same thing, that I didn't notice? Thanks, Randy -- R Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Registration Question (boxed ver.)
How long should I wait for a reply to an emailed registration form before I decide that my registration attempt didn't work? I'm trying to register a boxed disk version. When trying to update the disk's ver. 1.49f to ver. 1.53d, I seem to need that registration password, etc. (sample) --- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TheBat! Authorisation Registration Form This message contains your The Bat! registration form that will be sent to RITLABS. Please keep the password remembered. When you are online, press Shift+F2 (Send Queued Mail item of Account menu) to send the message. (reg. form info here) --- Thanks, Randy -- R Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
IMAP email login using encrypted password
Hi Peter, But one thing _is_ sure: Netscape has to send User/Pass too, otherwise no Login could be done :-) But as I said: seem Netscape needs to do this only once in opposite to TB! :-) You are correct about Netscape holding the connction open but I am confirming that in the one Netscape login sequence, the username and password are NOT visible in the packets. I don't mean to anal about this as I've been using FTP and other unencoded stuff for years. My concern is that, as we move towards a future where there is more and more malicious hacking of all kinds, and speaking as someone who needs to log in on a lot of customers' servers I am going to be wanting to avoid yelling that password every few minutes day after day. That's why I began looking into the Secure Bat which uses hardware protection. I was trying to get the MD5 or other protected stuff working in the regular Bat to see if the secure version willwork with my servers. -- Best regards, Randy -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
IMAP email login encrypted password
Hi Peter, ?!? What login are you talking about? POP3-login for fetching your mail? Or IMAP? Yes, there is the possibility for TB! to use a more secure way, sadly the server has to support this kind of login. One would be 'APOP' an other would be 'MD5-CRAM'. Both are supported by TB! and IIRC SSL is being developed. The passwords are stored somehow encrypted within TB! but as long the the server only understands plain text passwords (which is the case if no APOP/CRAM is available) TB! has to decrypt before fetching your mail, otherwise the server would refuse your connection :-) I'm talking about IMAP. On the same server, Netscape Messenger 4.78 talks to the server and no username/password is visible in the packets it sends. Just plain IMAP with no special security. Using TB, regardless of what I configure (MD5,...) TB sends the username/password in the clear for every transaction with the server! I must be missing something? -- Best regards, Randy -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Syncing with Palm address book
I read in the FAQ about syncing email with The Bat but there didn't seem to be any mention of including the address book. Is this possible? rwd = Randy Dykhuis Phone: 800/530-9019 ext. 19 Executive Director 517/694-4242 ext. 19 Michigan Library Consortium Fax:517/694-9303 6810 S. Cedar, Suite 8 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lansing, MI 48911-6909 Web:http://www.mlc.lib.mi.us/ = -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Any way to get TB to only use email address (not names)?
I just got a reply to a notice I sent out over the weekend: Although I do appreciate the bits of news that you send, I'm a bit concerned about all these addresses, with full names. There are a lot of folks there that are definitely not my friends, ... I realise from prior discussions that TB won't generate individual messages for each person on a list without including all those other addresses, but is there any way to get The Bat to put only the email address in the "to" field instead of "Name" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Would you tell me please, which way I have to go from here?" Alice asked. "That depends a good deal on where you want to get to," said the cat. "I don't much care where," said Alice. "Then it doesn't matter which way you go," said the cat. from _Alice_in_Wonderland_ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Just checking
On Friday, December 15, 2000, at approximately 9:53:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wanted to make sure that I wrote down your e-mail address correctly. Lawrence mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello! Although, I have been caught up in the Christmas chaos, and not online much as you can tell by the length of time it took me to email you back, you got it right. I look forward to seeing you again soon. Randy email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://members.primary.net/~randy1/pics/ "Would you tell me please, which way I have to go from here?" Alice asked. "That depends a good deal on where you want to get to," said the cat. "I don't much care where," said Alice. "Then it doesn't matter which way you go," said the cat. from _Alice_in_Wonderland_ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?
Hello Lionel, Monday, May 01, 2000, 3:38:09 AM, you wrote: LEM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- LEM Hash: SHA1 LEM Hello rellieb-cal, LEM Monday, May 01, 2000, 5:13:01 AM, you wrote: rc Do I have to place a blank line in between these paragraphs LEM Yes, you do. You've found the one thing I hate about TheBat! It's the best program around, but I guess you can't have everything! It has a very strange idea of what autoformatting is. I wanted autoformatting really bad but when they came out with it, I sadly had to turn it off. Couldn't stand the way they implemented it. In your scenario, if you do manage to get several paragraphs typed and indented without a line in between (manually), then decide to change something way up there in the first paragraph, whammo! All of your paragraphs are now one. Where I ran into it most was in my signature, in lists (which are impossible) and such things. My sig looks silly with a line in between and so would a list. You can't even type ABOVE a line without it getting sucked into your paragraph! Best regards, Randy mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: auto-format bug
Hello Xiangrong, Thursday, December 09, 1999, 11:41:21 PM, you wrote: XF Hello TBUDL, XF I hoped that a nasty bug introduced in 1.36 would be fixed in XF 1.38, but it wasn't :( Here it is: XF While auto-format is selected, it is impossible to use manual line XF breaks. unless you use a blank line between paragraphs, new line XF will always be joined to last line (I selected justify on wrap and XF auto-format). Thus, it is impossible to write the following text XF in the bat: XFI love the bat because: XF 1. blah blah XF 2. blah blah XF ... XF Best regards, XF Xiangrong mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] We had a debate about this bug, and it seems that someone thought this is the way things ought to work! I don't know if it was one of the developers or just a user, but I sure don't get it. If I hit return to put a line break in, I WANT a line break! If you also start typing a sentence above a line of text, that line of text will wrap up, deleting your current line break. I think if I wanted only one line, I'd start typing on the line where the text already exists, not on the line ABOVE it! Best regards, Randymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: network problems
Hello Thomas, Friday, December 10, 1999, 1:17:19 PM, you wrote: TF Hallo Randy, TF On Friday, December 10, 1999, 11:43:45 PM (GMT+0800), Randy Robinson wrote: RR So, I put the server back the way it was, as a RR stand-alone. But now, I open up The Bat! it RR makes me login! I can't seem to get rid of this prompt. RR Can someone help me with this? TF Login to The Bat!? - You may have something password protected (I TF didn't do that, so I don't know what happens if you do). TF Or log into to your email account when it automatically checks email? TF - Have you put your password intothe account properties? Sorry, forgot to be specific. It asks me to log in to the BAT! I have to give it my windows login and passowrd. Then it opens up. It only started when I changed it to a server bat and then it didn't go away when I changed it back to client. Best regards, Randymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
