Re[2]: IMAP setup-message bodies not being downloaded
Hello Stuart and TBUDL, Monday, February 6, 2006, 1:52:25 AM, you wrote: Hello SL, A reminder of what SL typed on: Sunday, February 05, 2006 at 17:17:57 GMT +1100 S Hello tbudl, S I can't figure out why The Bat no longer is downloading message bodies S for my IMAP account. SNIP S In 'IMAP Fine Tune', I have 'retrieve message structures...' enabled. S In 'Manage IMAP Folders' , I have sync mode set to Full Messages/All S Messages' and I have tried 'New Messages' as well. S The answer is doubtless staring me in the face, but right now I can't S see it... Stuart : It is working well here for me (home and pro). These are the settings I would check as well. Just noticed you are using 3.65.03, which is the official release version, I think. The current beta 3.70.07 is now working correctly with IMAP syncing and is the best version I have ever had for IMAP. There are still some problems, but message downloading seems to be fixed. SL: Update: I just installed ver 3.70.07 Message body is still not downloaded but the body IS donwloaded when I specifically/manually activate synchronise command ... Perhaps I should confine myself to 'lesser' email clients (Opera M2, Outlook Express, ThunderBird 1.5) which handle IMAP with no dramas ;-) SteveL -- Best regards, SLmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Professional Edition 3.70.07 Qigong (Beta) Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP setup-message bodies not being downloaded
Hello tbudl, I can't figure out why The Bat no longer is downloading message bodies for my IMAP account. I am not sure if this started happening when I upgraded from Home to Pro (not sure). (...although it worked fine...I think...when I tried Voyager...) In 'IMAP Fine Tune', I have 'retrieve message structures...' enabled. In 'Manage IMAP Folders' , I have sync mode set to Full Messages/All Messages' and I have tried 'New Messages' as well. The answer is doubtless staring me in the face, but right now I can't see it... (I think I'll go and clean the leaves out of the gutters.. ;-) Steve L -- Best regards, SL mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat ver 3.65.03 Win XP Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB! going well at present..
Hello BatPersons Recently Allie M said re IMAP accounts... then try deleting the local cache for the IMAP folders since there may be a problem with them. To do this, right click each IMAP folder and select Properties. The 'clear cache now' button is there on the Properties panel. DO NOT use the 'empty folder' option to do this. This will empty the IMAP folders contents *on the server*. 'Smiled when I saw this. AM doubtless had some stupid person in mind: Me! ;-) Yes...I did this (used empty folder) when going thru mega-woes with TB! But!...I had a 'mirror' of the messages I wanted/needed in the IMAP folders in another mailer I use (ThunderBird). BTW, TB! incl my IMAP account therein is going well at present: no 'runtime' error messages, no 'error reading database' messages... Still not sure why all this happened...Possibly multifactorial (as most 'diseases' are...). Cleaning up Win 98 (running various maintenance procedures...which I do regularly anyway) may have been one part of the cure. Threatening WinDoze with going entirely over to Linux (Xandros) may also have had a salutary effect...;-) One serious point tho: when I was reinstalling TB! over and over again...this time ver 2.10.03...then ver 2.11.x... over and over again...I was using copies of the program in my downloads folder on my hard drive Then I downloaded a 'fresh' copy from Ritlabs...and the problems went awayCoincidence?? I am wondering if somehow the copies of the program on my hard rive somehow got corrupted...Just a thought... BTW...I am feeling very positive about IMAP in TB! at present IMAP in Thunderbird is perhaps simpler...and maybe more stable...but IMAP in TB is pretty good now as well methinks... and, in TB! fashion..very configurable... And TB seems to be about the fastest mailer I have ever used...and I have used a few ... -- Regards, Steve Lovemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 08:36 Sunday, 20 June 2004 Using The Bat! v2.11.02 (Protocol:usually IMAP) on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Xandros, Crossover and TheBat
Hi BatPhiles... I was intrigued by a throw away line by Thomas... who mentioned he might go for Xandros instead of upgrading to Win XP? (I am running Win 98 on a Pentium III machine a few...or several...years old...) I have played with various Linux distros on the dark side (of my hard drive)..most recently Mandrake...but Thomas's remark re Xandros intrigued me... With Crossover in Xandros...does this mean you can use TheBat?? How well will it run? I am also wondering about other hardware/software..eg can iPod be used in Xandros? (i use iPod as an external drive to backup data from my work Win XP machine...OK!..I use it for music too! ;-)...but was annoyed that it doesn't work with Win 98... I hate that! (Built in obsolescence) Oops!... a bit off topic... I guess this is one advantage of Mozilla browsers/mailers (eg ThunderBird)...tho lacking the power/functionality of TheBat, they are cross -platform applications... BTW..TheBat has been running well the last few days (no 'runtime' and 'error reading database' messages)...don't know why. The last time I installed from a fresh download from ritlabs...rather than repeated instals from the copies (of ver 2.11.x and 2.10.03) I had on my hard drive... Maybe the copies I had were somehow corrupted?? -- Regards, Steve Lovemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03:42 Thursday, 17 June 2004 Using The Bat! v2.11.02 (Protocol:usually IMAP) on Windows 98 4.10 Build B cc Howarth's...Am I getting the Linux itch again?? Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
serial number and checksum for TheBat
Hello BatPhiles I was just reinstalling TheBat (yet again)and thought I might do it 'clean and new'...ie a new install, and without resorting to restoration of data from a Backup However...I ran into a problem with registration: I have my registration(serial) number but I don't have a checksum number recorded anywhere So..how do you get around this ..if you do a clean/new instal, you have your serial number...but no other data?? I have a feeling this has been discussed before, but... (PS No 'runtime' or 'error reading database' messages in the last few hours...;-) -- Regards, Steve Lovemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 17:41 Tuesday, 15 June 2004 Using The Bat! v2.11.02 (Protocol:usually IMAP) on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
backup problems in TheBat (IMAP folders)
Hello Bat Persons,
Back in TheBat again after a few problems ('error reading database'
and 'runtime error' messages)...and decided to back up
all...(address book, settings and folders etc with messages for two
POP accounts and one IMAP account). Synchronised the IMAP
account/folders, then went off-line Then ran Backup...
Got a message to say there were problems backing up two of the folders
(Sent and Trash) in the IMAP account...and suggested I delete the
index files and start again
Decided not to bother... I think I will just exclude IMAP message
folder from backup...or maybe copy messages to a local folder and
backup from there...
--
Regards,
Steve Love
17:17 Monday, 14 June 2004
Using The Bat! v2.11.02 (Protocol:usually IMAP)
on Windows 98 4.10 Build B
Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
persistent 'error reading database' messages
Hello BatPhiles I keep getting 'error reading database' messages... Lately when I click on of the local folders (Sent Mail)...ie not one of the IMAP folders (Maybe I should put the messages I send via my IMAP account into the IMAP account 'sent' folder instead of the local 'sent mail' folder...) I keep responding by going thru check integrity/repair..as suggested...8 damaged messages are supposedly recovered/repaired each timeand then I get the same error message when I click on the Sent Mail folder... If you think my posts about these error messages are becoming tedious...think how I feel! ;-) I noted one of the 'taglines' at the bottom of one of Peter ? 's posts...words to the effect... 'Everything is going well...Time to upgrade..' Maybe I will drop back to to 2.10.x for a while ... and/or retreat to ThunderBird for a while -- Regards, Steve Love ...going 'batty'' mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 17:29 Monday, 14 June 2004 Using The Bat! v2.11.02 (Protocol:usually IMAP) on Windows 98 4.10 Build B cc rtm...my brother-in-law..who is on this list and is having a dream run with the The Bat! Your time will come... ;-) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
'error reading database' and 'runtime messages'-saga continues...
Further to previous posts I thought I was out of the woods But now Run time error messages are keeping me out of The Bat (again). (I am writing this from ThunderBird...I suppose I could write this from Outlook Express...but you would then consign me to purgatory and exclude me from this list...) Anywayto recap brieflyI was getting 'error reading database' messages relating to my IMAP account Inbox...AND my POP account InBox I think I am over that now...(after lots of uninstalls, reinstalls...and going to and from ver 2.10.x to ver 2.11.x). (Thanks for your help with all this Allie...although some mysteries remain unresolved...) I was also getting run time error messages. Thomas explained that this was not likely due to The Bat.as it is written in Delphi...but could be BayesIt...written in C++... So, I uninstalled the Bayesit plugin...and also the 'generic antivirus' plugin...which I think avast! must have put thereAnd all was sweet Now when I go to open TheBat (ver 2.11.x)I can't get in because the Run Time message comes up. I tried reinstalling...but leaving my data folder intact...and I still get the runtime message. I think on one of my recent installs, I may have forgotten to give BayesIt the flick. (But who knows..because I can't open TBat! :-) I have told Avast not to do its Mail protection thing...just in case its plug-in was stuffing things up... Right now I am considering going back to AVG (although I have found avast very good/better)...or coughing up the money for nod32. (I won't go near Norton.don't ask...). So, that is where I am up to. I had a purple patch with TheBat for the 2 years or so I have used it...but now it is causing a bit of grief (Fortunately my wife...who hates computers...and the amount of time I spend on them...is a very nice/tolerant person... ;-) I suspect some or all of the following could be involved with 'error reading database' and 'runtime' messages/woes: * Using IMAP on my main account for the past few months * Newer versions of The Bat??/ this only happened I think when I got ver 2.11. * avast! ?? plugins? (The program automatically/ regularly updates..along with the virus signatures) (Still need an a/v on board, but my mail is checked for viruses anyway by Kaspersky at the Fastmail server...) *BayesIt plugin...?? ... (Don't need it...my mail is checked for spam at the Fastmail server...) * I need a new computer?? Win 98 is a bit too tired (although I do regular maintenance...)//OK...I want a new computer anywayI am just looking for excuses... * Early onset senility in the guy at the keyboard...?? BTW...many thanks to those on this list in general...but particularly Allie, Thomas etc Apart form you guys, TheBat would have been consigned to the dustbin...(like Pocomail, Pegasus, Eudora etc.) PS In Australia one expression for going mad is going batty ;-) (Just a joke! No flames please!) PPS If I get The Bat up and running again (I WILL...in time...), I will have to rename it The Phoenix (because it is rising a lot of late from the ashes... ;-) -- Steve L... Australia ThunderBird 0.6; Win 98 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
was runtime, now error reading database...
Further to my recent post re runtime errors - apparently associated with ver 2.11.x...I started getting 'error reading database' messages (ERDM)...in ver 2.10.03...which doesn't seem to elicit runtime error messages I invoked Message Finder to find certain messages in the Inbox of my IMAP account. This caused an ERDM which asked me to repair the database. Despite attempts to do this (using Maintenance)... all of which failed...eventually I could only get out of The Bat (TB) by rebooting the computer. (All this happened a few days ago as well...followed by runtime messages). Then I clicked on the Inbox of my POP3 account...and I got another ERDM. This time I could run the repair routine in Maintenance, but repair was not done...or the error was repeated - because I kept getting ERDMs when I clicked on the Inbox of that account... So, I have temporarily given up (again)...Despite a dream run with TheBat for over 2 years or sonow I am running into repeated problems... :-( Whether this is coincidental with me starting to use IMAP several months ago...I don't know. The fact that I had a dream run with TB for so long suggest it is not entirely due to operator ineptitude... C'est la vie. -- SteveL 20:43 12 June 2004 NSW Australia For this message using ThunderBird ver 0.6 cc rtm Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: was runtime, now error reading database...
On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 07:25:33 -0500 SL wrote: SL:Further to my recent post re runtime errors - apparently associated with ver 2.11.x...I started getting 'error reading database' messages (ERDM)...in ver 2.10.03...which doesn't seem to elicit runtime error messages SL:I invoked Message Finder to find certain messages in the Inbox of my IMAP account. Allie Martin: This is occurring with an IMAP account? Hm. At first I thought it was just IMAP associated, but the 'error reading database' (ERD) message then also appeared when I clicked on the Inbox of my POP3 account (TPG) .. Allie Martin:We would then need to know if you're searching cached messages or if you're searching the server's database. I am 99.99% certain I was just searching the cache. I DID consider at the time that the problem might be server-side...but the evidence suggested otherwise...(eg I was not on-line...and my TB's IMAP settings are for manual connection...and automatic disconnect when synchronization is finished... Allie Martin:Have you tried clearing the Inbox cache? Right click the Inbox and hit the 'clear cache now' button. Resync so that the local cache can be rebuilt. Are you still having the problem? If so, then the problem is with the server's database. See above - I am pretty certain I was just searching the cache of my IMAP account (FastMail) Inbox. However...I attempted to do just as you suggested above: Firstly I could see no 'clear cache now' button. I DID have an 'empty folder' option...which I uneasily thought might be the same thing.. My unease proved to be well founded: 'empty folder' did empty the cache...but then I wondered why I could not rebuild the cache from the Inbox server-side. A visit to my Inbox server side confirmed my suspicions: all my messages there were marked for deletion... :-)(but not purged, fortunately). Anyway...I am not too worried...Although 154 messages were involved..they are not that important (unlike my work files!!)...and, because I am also using ThunderBird...I have a current copy of these 154 messages in the FastMail (IMAP account) Inbox cache in T-Bird...(and I have just copied all these to a local folder in T-Bird). Life is interesting, nicht wahr?? ;-) Allie Martin:We'll now have to elucidate if it's a genuine problem with the database or a problem with TB! using that server's databases. Questions that would help to clarify this are: - Is this an acquired problem or has it always existed when using TB! with this IMAP account? The problem has only developed in the last week or so...(since going to ver 2.11.x I think...but I suspect that is coincidental...). I have used TBat! for about 2 years I think...and IMAP for at least several months...and in TheBat as well as other mailers... And the ERD messages in TB! happened with a POP account as well as the IMAP one... Allie Martin:- Have you tried another IMAP client and doing searches with the same IMAP account? Does the other IMAP client work with the account without any problems? Yes... I did a search of my Inbox in Thunderbirdoff-line, then on-line, then after sync...It all worked perfectly. In short...the problem is not server side...( BTW, I have found FastMail very good/reliable). The problem is located entirely with TheBat (and/or the fool at the keyboard.. :-D ) SL: This caused an ERDM which asked me to repair the database. Despite attempts to do this (using Maintenance)... all of which failed...eventually I could only get out of The Bat (TB) by rebooting the computer. Allie Martin:This will VERY likely not work if you're trying to use TB!'s mailbase repair tool to repair an IMAP account's *remote* mailbase. See above.. I am certain I was off-line when attempting to repair the IMAP Inbox (cache)...which I could not do...and had to resort to crtl-alt-del to get out of TBat. The repair of the POP3 account Inbox seemed to work...but then it kept repeating... I think I anticipated all your diagnostic suggestions, Allie...but appreciate your patience and insightful input... Perhaps now you might suggest I try another email client ...or at least quietly leave the list..or get a brain transplant...?? ;-) At least I am not getting runtime messages of late..(Thanks for the reminder that many experience problems with BayesIt Thomas...I have 'unplugged' it...) -- SteveL 0922 Sun 13 June 2004 NSW Australia Written in ThunderBird...so my apologies if the format is not the best... :-DSmileys are courtesy of T-Bird... Sig delimiter added manually. T-Bird is simple...but it always seems to work... ;-) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
bug report - Runtime error when starting TB ver 2.11.x
Hi BatFolk I have just submitted my second bug report re TheBat!. With ver 2.11.x, but apparently not ver 2.10.x , I sometimes get Runtime error messages. Once the runtime messages start to appear, they keep appearing. I think it is only happening with ver 2.11.02. (Error message...'this application has requested the runtime to terminate in an unusual way...') Questions and comments: 1. I have no idea what runtime or runtime error messages (from 'Microsoft Virtual C++ Library) mean. 2. I just noticed that when you send a bug report to Ritlabs, a copy dose not automatically go to your 'sent' folder. 3. Has anyone else experienced Runtime error messages with ver 2.11.x or any other version?? 4. I know Ritlabs people are very busy..(as most of us are), but it would be nice to get at least an automated acknowledgement that they have received your report and will look at it... 5. Now for some black humour (as opposed to bitterness): The Bat may be a turbo charged V8, and lesser mailers (ThunderBird, Outlook Express, Outlook, Eudora, Pocomail, Lotus, Pegasus, Courier/Calypso etc...all of which I have used) may be like small capacity 4 cylinder engined cars in comparison, but the little car that goes is faster than the turbo V8 that won't start ;-) 6. Lest some die-hard TheBat devotees take offence at point '5', let me say that I have had very few problems with TheBat in the 2-3 years I have been using it. -- Regards, Steve Lovemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 08:05 Saturday, 12 June 2004 Using The Bat! v2.10.03 (Protocol:usually IMAP) on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat ver 2.11.x and IMAP problems; TheBat vs T-Bird
Hello Allie, Wednesday, June 9, 2004, 8:58:22 AM, you wrote: AM Sl, [S] wrote: S On another matter...re ThunderBird vs The Bat!...tell me again S Allie (and others) what you see as the merits/demerits of both. snipola AM I think my having to use ThunderBird has been misunderstood. AM There are many features in TB! that ThunderBird lacks and I don't see AM them as nice features to just have anyway. snipola AM I'd never really entertain comparing the two once you're up and going AM with reading mail as I now am with TB! at work. Now that TB!'s IMAP AM works well enough for me to read mail from work, the thought of using AM ThunderBird is now laughable. They simply don't compare once we get AM beyond basic fetching and reading of messages. So, I take it you prefer The Bat over T-Bird ;-) [Seriously tho...ta for your thoughts.. ] -- Regards, Steve Love (basic fetcher and reader ;-) 20:18 Wednesday, 9 June 2004 Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
T-Bird engine the most compliant??
Dear TBUDLers... From the Thunderbird HELP site: 'Mozilla Thunderbird - The New Mail Client from Mozilla Mozilla Thunderbird is a free, open-source and cross-platform mail client and news reader for most modern operating systems including, but not limited to, Windows, Linux and Macintosh. It offers some advantages over other mail clients, including junk mail classification. Built from Mozilla http://www.mozilla.org/ code, Mozilla Thunderbird uses Gecko, the most standards-compliant rendering engine in existence.' Is thsi true?: Mozilla Thunderbird uses Gecko, the most standards-compliant rendering engine in existence.' What does TheBat use?? -- Steve L Using The Bat (back to ver 2.10.03 from 2.11.x since a recent crash) and Thunderbird 0.6 - both on Win 98 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TheBat and IMAP IDLE
Hi BatFans Now for a dumb question: Can anyone tell me if The Bat v 2.11.x (or 2.10.x) has IMAP IDLE ?? (which...as I understand it from Mozilla ThunderBird...which I also use...and which has IMAP IDLE...means if you leave your mailer 'on-line'...it will tell you when you have new mail and download it for youMaybe I have got it wrong??) -- Regards, Steve Lovemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 08:13 Wednesday, 9 June 2004 Using The Bat! v2.10.03 (Protocol:usually IMAP) on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat ver 2.11.x and IMAP problems; TheBat vs T-Bird
Hi BatPersons Someone asked (sorry...can't find the original message) if there were more IMAP-related problems with TB with versions 2.1.x It may be coincidence, but I had no problems with TB 'till ver 2.11.x (as you can see I am now back to ver 2.10.x). I had database errors...which I was unable to repair, then repeated messages from Windows re Runtime Errors (which I don't understand). Of course...these problems may have had nothing whatsoever to do with IMAP and TB versions 2.11.x...but rather a simple database erroror index file error...which was compounded by the ineptitude of the operator ;-) Anyway...I am now more conscientious about regular backups in TheBat!...a tres cool feature IMO. On another matter...re ThunderBird vs The Bat!...tell me again Allie (and others) what you see as the merits/demerits of both. An obvious difference is TheBat does SO much more...(much of which may be superfluous to many users...eg like DVD players ...or cigarette lighters...in cars )...but could be nice to have anyway...just in case...(Besides...its nice to have options anyway... ;-) -- Regards, Steve Lovemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 08:16 Wednesday, 9 June 2004 Using The Bat! v2.10.03 (Protocol:IMAP for my main account; POP3 for the other two)on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bat bugs force me to T-Bird
Hi TBUDL listers! I am writing this from my (and Allie Martin's) alternate mailer as TheBat (on my PC) is flightless at present. I have submitted a big report to Ritlabs which in short says that I got database reading error reports ...Attempts to repair the base did not work or resulted in TB (ver 2.11.02 on Win 98) seizing up. Then I resorted to various means to get out of TB, incl ctrl-alt-del...with some restarts of the computer afterwards... Then I did some uninstalls and reinstalls (ver 2.11.02...then ver 2.11)with 'restores' from backup etc etc Then everything seemed OKI ran a full Maintenance routine againsynchronized my IMAP account...wrote and sent off the bug report. and then it started again'error reading database'. 'repair routine' worked this time...Then closed down The Bat...and got the Runtime Error message again on attempted re-start T-Bird is much less capable of course than The Bat...but it is still flying!! :-( -- SteveL - Australia (sig line and sig delimiter manually inserted!) Using T-Bird 0.6 .still flying. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Bat bugs force me to T-Bird
Hi Allie and TBUDLers, Sunday, June 6, 2004, 10:26:50 PM, you wrote: A Sl, [S] wrote: S I am writing this from my (and Allie Martin's) alternate mailer as S TheBat (on my PC) is flightless at present. S I have submitted a bug report to Ritlabs which in short says that I got S database reading error reports ...Attempts to repair the base did not S work or resulted in TB (ver 2.11.02 on Win 98) seizing up. ..then S 'Run-Time' error messages A Are you using IMAP or POP accounts here? Three accounts in TheBat!: two POP3, and my main one, IMAP4. As you may see I am writing from TheBat! again (not Thunderbird this time), as I have got the TheBat! up and running again. I did another new/clean install (ie not an install over an existing installation) but this time I have pointed TheBat to anew directory (in My Documents) to store email data.(Maybe some conflict arose from something in my previous E-Mail data store??...and the restoration from backup??) The settings and mail came from restoration of my most recent backup: about 2 weeks oldBut that doesn't bother me too much as the emails I wanted were still on the mail server... (a benefit of IMAP over POP I guess) I will see how it goes... To be fair, I should say I have had very few problems with TheBat! in the 2-3 years I have been using it, although I am still on a reasonably steep learning curve with IMAP (since I went to FastMail a few months ago). I am also just learning about Virtual Folders...altho I am comfortable with the concept as I use Lotus Notes (no choice) at work (where the 'folders' are in fact 'Views', which I assume is synonymous with 'Virtual Folder'). Thanks for your interest: 'Appreciated. -- Regards, Steve Lovemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 02:30 Monday, 7 June 2004 Using The Bat! v2.11.02 (Protocol:usually IMAP) on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bat bugs force me to T-Bird -update
Subject: Re: Bat bugs force me to T-Bird From: Allie Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 07:26:50 -0500 To: Sl on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sl on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sl, [S] wrote: S I am writing this from my (and Allie Martin's) alternate mailer as S TheBat (on my PC) is flightless at present. S I have submitted a bug report to Ritlabs which in short says that I got S database reading error reports ...Attempts to repair the base did not S work or resulted in TB (ver 2.11.02 on Win 98) seizing up. Allie Are you using IMAP or POP accounts here? My apologies if this second reply to Allie's does not thread properly: The Bat is still playing up and I am back into ThunderBird: To recap: Problems with data base reading errors, attempted fixes, then a series of Run Time error messages from Windows. I have three accounts in TB: two POP3, one (my main one: FastMail) IMAP. On my last re-install (ver 2.11.02), restored from a backup, and pointed TB to a new directory for my email data. Then I ran BackUp and got error messages suggesting a problem with the database index, and suggesting I delete the index. I found the index file(s) (*.tbi) - 25 of them, deleted them (to Recycle Bin) and restarted TB. I got the familar Run Time error messages. I undeleted the *.tbi files: same RunTime error messages... I might come back to re-addressing this problem...but it may have to wait 2-3 days (work and other commitments!)...so my second fiddle (T-Bird) is back into first place... Perhaps I should reconsider using Outlook Express?? ;-) -- SteveL - Australia Mailer: T-Bird currently. In the ashes: TheBat ver 2.11.02 on Win 98 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB! or not TB ? (..that is the question..)
Hello TBUD Listees I have resumed the vain search for the perfect mailer, which of course is different things to different people (and a futile quest for all!). I keep coming back to The Bat! (TB!), despite not liking its (to me unappealing) appearance, its buggy HTML editing etc BUT...it has so many pluses. I am using IMAP in Mozilla ThunderBird (TB...or T-Bird if you like) and in TB! Both have their pluses and minuses. I don't find IMAP in TB! too bad... Also I like TB! 's speed...it opens up faster than most mailers and seems to do various operations as faster or faster than most... TB! gives you plenty of options too...and lets you know what is going on...(eg when sending/receiving mail...I like that...) However T-Bird has some real pluses too (a lot of FastMail devotees seem to use it too)...especially for a freebie... Anyone else tried both T-Bird and TB!...especially IMAP?? -- Regards, Steve Lovemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 17:31 Friday, 28 May 2004 Using The Bat! v2.10.03 (Protocol:usually IMAP) on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
