Re: Re[3]: IMAP Issues
Paul... On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 09:51:12 +, you wrote: Hi all, On Wednesday, December 28, 2005, 10:32:12 AM, you wrote: PM Yes, although I didn't realise that you could do this. I can't PM see any way of changing this back to public though. Is this possible? Does anyone know whether it is possible in BT to change a bug report from private to public? You could always create a support ticket through Ritlab's web site Support page. :) -- steverio TB!v3.64.01 Christmas Edition TBV!v3.64.01 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Application associations not holding.
Darrin... On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 11:32:43 -0800, you wrote: Hello friends, I have tbat pro running on a 3 user winxp system. It runs fine on my user account. But on a second Im having some problems. In Options-Preferences-Applications, the four boxes which should be checked are not. I check them, apply the associations and click yes to verify. Then once thebat is shut down and restarted, the boxes are unchecked again. Seems to only be on this one user account in windows. The other two accounts I have are fine. Anyone have some thoughts on how to correct this? I'm not sure what is happening here unless maybe another program is re-associating these extensions. If all else fails, you can try this, if you wish, using windows search function or just find the file types in windows explorer: 1. Click Start 2. Click Search 3. Click All files and folders 4. Type in box below Search by any or all of the criteria below the following: .msg,.eml,.vcf 5. Select your local hard drive below Look in 6. Click Search 7. As soon as the 3 file types appear, stop the search or wait until it finishes 8. Then separately, Shift/Right Click on one of each of the 3 file types (.msg,.eml,.vcf) 9. Select Open With 10. Then select Choose Program and a windows dialog box opens 11. Scroll to The Bat E-Mail Client and select (highlight) or Browse to the TB executible, if you need to 12. Then tick the box next to Always use the selected program to open this kind of file 13. Click OK 14. Open Options-Preferences-Applications in TB and tick all 4 boxes again plus tick the box next to Check that The Bat! is the defaut mail client upon startup 15. Click OK 16. Close TB and reopen 17. If TB is not associated as the default mail client, a dialog window will open asking if you want it to be then click Yes See if that works -- steverio TB!v3.64.01 Christmas Edition TBV!v3.64.01 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TBV 3.64.01 loses customization upon restore from TB backup
I renamed a POP account in TB then decided to clean up traces of TBV in registry and USB stick and do a fresh install. Then I restored from a backup of TB. The restore process, upon first try, an error message ...error reading from backup file.. then a retry of restore completed. TBV did not restore toolbar cutomizations and window display view. Nothing major but this had not happened in a previous beta. -- steverio TB!v3.64.01 Christmas Edition TBV!v3.64.01 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Roguemoticons only good if others use the bat?
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 07:32:59 +, Ben wrote: Frankly yes. But then we are the only beautiful mail users. So perhaps you should be thankful for that. lol... It is so good that TB allows us to feed and pamper ourselves! :) -- steverio TB!v3.64.01 Christmas Edition TBV!v3.64 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with v.3.64.01 crashing
Hello Bob... On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 10:41:20 +1000, you wrote: I have determined exactly where the error occurs and can reproduce it on demand. Under Account Properties - Mail Management - IMAP Fine Tune: if Automatically Disconnect after synchronisation is checked then The Bat! crashes every time. (As I am on dial-up I don't want Fastmail to be continually connected so I need it to disconnect after checking my mail.) I have discovered a work-round that solves the problem for me: Mail Management - When inactive, disconnect after 5 Seconds has almost exactly the same effect as automatically disconnect but without the crash :GRIN: I wonder if anyone else would be good enough to try setting their IMAP to disconnect after synchronisation to determine if it is a reproducible bug, or just an isolated strangeness on my machine. Not a problem here and I'm on fastmail too! -- steverio TB!v3.64.01 Christmas Edition TBV!v3.64 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Tiny problem opening PDF attachments
MAU... On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:56:06 +0100, you wrote: Hello steverio, I wonder why TB is in the 'Open With List'. Because at some point you have selected to always use TB ( thebat36214.exe) and others from the Open With list using the Open With command...example-(right-click on registered file type .pdf). No, I can assure you I have not. OK, It doesn't matter. Let me know if you can correct this. Last resort is that all associations for .pdf can be cleared then re-associate the correct pdf reader program again with the right path. -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 TBV!v3.63.09 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Tiny problem opening PDF attachments
MAU... On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:52:39 +0100, you wrote: Hello steverio, I wonder why TB is in the 'Open With List'. Because at some point you have selected to always use TB ( thebat36214.exe) and others from the Open With list using the Open With command...example-(right-click on registered file type .pdf). No, I can assure you I have not. OK, It doesn't matter. Let me know if you can correct this. Last resort is that all associations for .pdf can be cleared then re-associate the correct pdf reader program again with the right path. Been there, done that and no way. TB still opens PDF with Acrobat and not with Reader. I dunno? I thought you said earlier that TB opened with Acrobat Reader v4 and not the main AA program itself? My mistake then. Not that this matters but I used to have AA full v4 and loaded AA reader v7 but decided to dump both for upgrade cost and system resource usage reasons. Now I have ScanSoft PDF Pro 3 and use Fox Reader v1.3 unless I need more detail with SS. If you have the AA v4 reader opening with TB issue like I thought you had, then I really don't see why AA reader v7 won't open if it is the *only* one associated with opening pdf docs. If your AA v4 main program is opening with TB there might be an association of Acrobat.exe instead of AcroRd32.exe. -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 TBV!v3.63.09 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Tiny problem opening PDF attachments
MAU... On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:28:30 +0100, you wrote: Hello all, It's not a real problem, that's why I say it's tiny, but it' bothering me not being able to understand what's happening. I've always had Adobe Reader 6.0 and Adobe Acrobat 4.0 installed in my system and PDF files where always opened from everywhere with Acrobat. I believe this was because Acrobat had been installed after Reader and it had taken file associations. A few days ago I replaced Adobe Reader 6.0 with 7.0. I first uninstalled 6.0 and then installed 7.0 and, since then, PDF files are opened from everywhere (i.e. Explorer) with Adobe Reader 7.0, even when I use Acrobat Distiller and, after printing, the printed document is displayed. All fine up to here, I prefer to view PDFs with Reader 7.0 than with Acrobat 4.0 which is quite an old version. The 'tiny' problem shows up when I open a PDF attachment in TB, they always open with Acrobat 4.0. No real problem, I can view PDFs, but I just don't understand why this is happening. Does TB keep its own file type associations somewhere? I've searched the Registry and tbuser.def and couldn't find anything. Does anybody have any hint? As I have said, it's not a real problem but I'd like to understand what happening and, if possible, be able to view PDF attachments with Adobe Reader 7.0. TIA. Maybe this utility can be useful to you and Chuck too along with what Villi posted to you on Tbbeta: http://windowsxp.mvps.org/FileExtInfo.htm -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 TBV!v3.63.09 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Tiny problem opening PDF attachments
MAU... On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 02:54:35 +0100, you wrote: Hello steverio, Maybe this utility can be useful to you and Chuck too along with what Villi posted to you on Tbbeta: http://windowsxp.mvps.org/FileExtInfo.htm Is it better than http://www3.sympatico.ca/gtopala/about_siw.html ? This is nice! Additional features is good! :) This is what SIW says: ,- [ ] | Property Value | Extension:.pdf | Extension ID: AcroExch.Document | Description: Adobe Acrobat 7.0 Document | Default Action: Open | Command Line: D:\Archivos de programa\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Reader\AcroRd32.exe %1 | Open with:D:\Archivos de programa\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Reader\AcroRd32.exe | Supports DDE: Yes | | Action: print | Supports DDE: Yes | | Action: printto | Supports DDE: Yes | | Open With List: AcroRd32.exe | MSPaint.exe | Acrobat.exe | iexplore.exe | thebat.exe | spoolsv.exe | PhotoshopElements.exe | thebat36214.exe | WINWORD.EXE | shimgvw.dll `- I wonder why TB is in the 'Open With List'. Because at some point you have selected to always use TB ( thebat36214.exe) and others from the Open With list using the Open With command...example-(right-click on registered file type .pdf). That's the problem. All the file names below the AcroRd32.exe needs to go. Follow this: http://www.oreilly.com/pub/h/3017?page=lastx-order=date and choose Clean Up the Open With Option to clean up associations. OR Follow this: http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_open_with.htm and use this utility to clear unwanted associations. You can check the registry key above after using to double-check removal. -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 TBV!v3.63.09 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB getting slow
Hello SD... On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 01:14:17 +0200, you wrote: Off late my TB has become rather slow, as the number of emails keep increasing. Now I have around 80,000 emails accumalted over last several years. I keep upgrading to new version of TB, but still slow. I don't have virus in my PC either. I run TB maintenance regularly also. Any clue, how it can be improved? Is there any convenient way/format to archive emails from TB. I guess speed depends on what you as the user considers slow. 80,000 email is more than I have so I cannot compare to myself. I know of someone who has many more than twice that amount on hand in TB and is quite happy about it. I think TB can handle itself very well with large amounts. That's good you do regular maintenance. I know that other factors besides performing the Folder Maintenance Centre functions regularly will have an effect such as processor speed and the amount of ram on your system. For archiving, you could also export messages in the available formats TB offers and read them in an appropriate reader. -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 TBV!v3.63.07 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Default tb backup all that is needed?
Hello Darrin... On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 07:31:10 -0800, you wrote: Hello friends, Ive been doing regular backups using the backup option in tbat. Does this truly backup everything needed so if and when a disaster strikes I can safely restore everything as it was before? Just for a fail-safe approach, as with backing up anything important, I would also backup the TB directory structure *Program folders and Mail folders* along with the registry key *HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT* and store somewhere safe. I f you have both TB and TBV *Voyager*, then the key for TB would be *HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!*. Then if the first restore approach with TB's internal backup function fails, you can copy back the second backup to the appropriate locations. -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Default tb backup all that is needed?
Darrin... On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 07:31:10 -0800, you wrote: Hello friends, Ive been doing regular backups using the backup option in tbat. Does this truly backup everything needed so if and when a disaster strikes I can safely restore everything as it was before? I should add to my previous reply that the transfer of backup files from TB to TBV has been right on the mark as far as I can tell so far. The default restore function of TBV also has been reliable. The default restore function of TB has almost been the same except for message pane tabs as Richard remarked on but with TBV. -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 TBV!v3.63.07 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: With IMAP how long should it take for TB! to close?
Hello MFPA... On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 20:59:53 +, you wrote: Hi On Thursday 1 December 2005 at 7:28:25 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Dwight A Corrin wrote: I closely watched the shutting down pane a while ago. I have a number of old POP accounts where I no longer collect mail, and a large number of common folders where old mail continues to be archived. As the shutdown occurred a list of all those folders scrolled thru. That may have taken about 10 seconds. When it got to the IMAP part it was virtually done and gone. I do not use IMAP but with 5 POP accounts and several common folders TB! usually closes within 15-20 seconds. For quite some time I was very well used to having TB close immediately upon shutting down and having a few POP accounts. Even my Outlook always had closed down the same way. The addition of an IMAP account changed the amount of time closing TB and not Outlook so I was curious why. But now I'm happy with the very little extra time TB requires to do this especially compared to some other users. But this could change when I accumulate more mail and folders, etc. Now, I just consider IMAP a work in progress in the development of TB and am anxious to see it mature. :) -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Macro for lableling message Important?
Hello Darrin... On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 20:14:24 -0800, you wrote: Hello friends, Whats the macro that I would use if I want to label a message important in my quick template? Thanks This has been answered. Go here: http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg81312.html -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatically backing up The Bat! using batch files ·
Hello Mica... On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 14:51:32 +0100, you wrote: As to Arj, I have discovered that if I keep such archives on a CD-RW, after a pretty short while (perhaps 2 or 3 weeks) they will (almost all of them) become unreadable/corrupted, and irrecoverable. On ordinary CDs they are okay. I don't know what is reason. FYI, I have been using CDRW's for archiving purposes for a few years now and have not had any corruption related events on them. Of course, it all makes sense to me that there are many variables such as CD writer and firmware, BU software, quality of CD media, recording speed, file compression format, other programs in use,etc. -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatically backing up The Bat! using batch files ·
Mica... On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 19:17:31 +0100, you wrote: Another solution is to do backup on (mobile) HDDs instead. Cheaper, faster, much more rooms for the same money, and all at one place. Lifetime ... well, same. In general. If you have a better suggestion, then please tell. My ears are open. I use and prefer my external hard drive as my primary backup of TB directories and other related important files. It is a combo choice USB/Firewire/SATA drive and very fast compared to CDRW especially SATA...TB files transfered in a blink of an eye! The reason for two backup devices is to protect myself from possible TB backup file corruption or failure. -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: With IMAP how long should it take for TB! to close?
Hello Clive... On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 07:11:32 +, you wrote: Hello steverio, Wednesday, November 30, 2005, 11:28:26 PM, you wrote: It takes 4 seconds to close TB! when I use IMAP. It takes a split second to close with POP3. I have just responded to your other message. Some of us have to sleep you know :). This happens here but it's probably one of the least frustrating bugs in TB's current IMAP performance. It's probably the same phenomenon that makes TB so slow at fetching and displaying IMAP messages and part of the way the protocol is implemented in the prog. I perhaps should wait longer for replies sometimes! :) This happens to me when I get my mind set to follow through with a task. This relieves me somewhat to hear that the delayed closing is not just on my side but it also gives me *heads up* while I decide if I want to go with IMAP. I have one other email client that I'm trying IMAP with and it has no delay after closing. I hope this will improve with TB. Aside from what I read and hear the IMAP experience is new to me. -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: With IMAP how long should it take for TB! to close?
Hello Dwight... On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 13:28:25 -0600, you wrote: I closely watched the shutting down pane a while ago. I have a number of old POP accounts where I no longer collect mail, and a large number of common folders where old mail continues to be archived. As the shutdown occurred a list of all those folders scrolled thru. That may have taken about 10 seconds. When it got to the IMAP part it was virtually done and gone. With new perspectives here I should probably not query too loud of my measly 4 second delay on closing with IMAP! :) I've trimmed down on pack ratting mail and accounts. The mail I have saved for archiving is not too large. Mailing list email goes to a separate account in my Agent newsreader along with NG's. Including TB folder maintenance, I guess that is the best I can do to improve speed for now. -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
With IMAP how long should it take for TB! to close?
A simple retake of my previous post that had no comments. It takes 4 seconds to close TB! when I use IMAP. It takes a split second to close with POP3. Log says the IMAP session is finished before I close TB! down. *Question to IMAP users* How long does it take for you to close TB! with IMAP? -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE using fastmail on cable Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
