Re: 1.36 install once more...
Hello Adam Gobiowski, On Monday, November 15, 1999, 12:13:53 AM you told us: AG right.. anyone knows some good anti-wincih program? I have AG cleanich.exe , kill_cih.exe and nocih.exe . I have f-cih, but never use it yet. Would you like to test it ? I can send you privately. AG It would be nice if this program would check all the places, where AG virus can be (memory, disk) ... or just a good program working in AG dos mode... `cause cleancih doesn`t find anything... Are installing any anti-virus on Client not enough ? -- - syafril - Name: Syafril Hermansyah | Company : Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 URL : www.dutaint.co.id | FAX : (62) (21) 351-9241 I am using The Bat! 1.37 Beta/3 registered at Windows NT Workstation 4.0 built 1381, Service Pack 6 Created : Monday, November 15, 1999, 12:52:46 (GMT + 07:00) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
SOT: Anti-virus Programmes (was:Re[12]: 1.36 install once more...)
Hi tracer, on Monday, November 15, 1999, 2:53:23 PM GMT+0800, tracer wrote: t In your case I would either get a good antivirus program (and that t means NOT MCAFEE or NORTON) and run them to clean your system up. Interesting, as I thought these were good. Anyway, I am using PC-Cillin (registered and paid for), which I update about every week, and would like to know your opinion on this. Also, do you know whether it kills CIH so that I don't need the programme you (illegally ;-)) attached to your posting? -- Thanks and best regards, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.37 Beta/3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: SOT: Anti-virus Programmes (was:Re[12]: 1.36 install once more...)
Monday, November 15, 1999 Hello Thomas, Monday, Monday, November 15, 1999, you wrote: Thomas Hi tracer, Thomas on Monday, November 15, 1999, 2:53:23 PM GMT+0800, tracer wrote: t In your case I would either get a good antivirus program (and that t means NOT MCAFEE or NORTON) and run them to clean your system up. Thomas Interesting, as I thought these were good. Anyway, I am using PC-Cillin Thomas (registered and paid for), which I update about every week, and would Thomas like to know your opinion on this. I havent really heard any bad news about PC-Cilin. Or Dr Solomons even if latest version seems to be a twin of McAfee. I just hope they learned enough from the Solomons product to improve their own scanner... They tried it before by nicking code from Symantec (they probably ended up paying for it)... I have a paid Thunderbyte and the Norman successor to it. Plus company wise we paid for several others. AVP is one of them and it allows installation in an infected system to clean it. I quite liked it till 3-4 months ago when it caused me an unstable system and now I run Dr Web, another Russian AV program which like AVP gets about 95% of my samples. Without causing me a big headache. I quite like the way it behaves and works (a bit like thunderbyte) by letting you control what happens. No idea how the latest Norman works as it was just emailed to me a few days ago and I was busy with another problem. With both Norton and McAfee I have seen many disasters and to get the best advice you really should go to those most likely to get infected... Ask any hacking/cracking group what their opinion is and you will be convinced.. I know, that doesnt mean much as answer but using a program like this depends on you as user, your system , you doing your updates. Your knowledge of what the program does/doesnt do. Not only on the actual antivirus program. Norton and McAfee marketing is excellent and their latest versions are getting a lot better but if you test them over as I did on a set of around 1 virus strains, I found they recognised around 6000 or so, and AVP, and several others got close to 9500. Still leaves 500 they ignored but then a lot of infections will get caught by their actions.. Essentially they are a bit the victim of our last dead horse subject trying to be idiot proof and simple enough for the masses... But they donot work properly! I even suspect that some 10 dead drives I saw last year may have been caused by Nortons AVP life update corrupting the MBR. One drive died on the reboot. I ended up with a sized 0 partition front of the real partition and while I got the data off, drive somehow like the other 9 was physical damaged. We never figured out what really happened but as one died during the update and all the others were running NAV 4... I myself use a combination of things and have over the years never been infected except one time, a backdoor but that trojan was a total new one and my firewall caught it after which a friendly visitor recognised my system name and told me what was running and how to get rid of it. It was quite obvious as I suddenly had loads of visitors tryng to get into my system... And they were very annoyed to get kicked off if they insisted too long... At present with the latest strains of Outlook related virus strains I am locally advicing to dump any MS email programs as its getting too dangerous as the latest donot even require you to open the attachments anymore. (but thats a kind of useless advice here as we use thebat!) Thomas Also, do you know whether it kills CIH so that I don't need the Thomas programme you (illegally ;-)) attached to your posting? Its a legal freeware program. 100% sure, I can give you the website as well... Spinrite isnt but then I wouldnt post that. Too big anyway. He also wrote a program to test zip and Jazz disks to see if the drive/disks may have the click of death problem. Nortons 2000 WILL clean CIH infected files. Your program no idea. McAfee was reported to have cleaned and all the files were useless... I know as I did one today... About 4 hours ago I was called to clean a system with pretty park or whatever and which someone had tried to clean manually following lousy instructions from the website. he then used Norton which quarantened the offending file after which windows didnt work anymore. Noting executed!. Anyway, I ran scanreg from dos, grabbed a backup registry 3 days old, rebooted and he had a working system after which Norton (had to be reinstalled cleaned the lot. So making sure as one virus means the owner wasnt properly protected, we ran the Norton over it and it found the CIH. Not active but it cleaned it. No idea if the file is then still runnable! Basically the real cure is get the data, reinstall as you can never properly trust the system after cleaning but I know, most people donot do it... AVP I know can clean it. It intercepted last year a whole cd full with it. A collection of
Re: 1.36 install once more...
Hi there! On 14 Nov 99, at 18:13, Adam Go³Ëbiowski wrote about "Re[10]: 1.36 install once more...": about wincih.. i killed wincih that was in memory with kill_cih.exe ant then tried to check it with nocih.exe. It says that my memory is infected with wincih... so the file nocih.exe must be infected... all right.. anyone knows some good anti-wincih program? I have cleanich.exe , kill_cih.exe and nocih.exe . It would be nice if this program would check all the places, where virus can be (memory, disk) ... or just a good program working in dos mode... `cause cleancih doesn`t find anything... Goto www.dialognauka.ru and get the free version of Dr.Web (better to pay for the non-free:-)). Then grab all the add-ons available from their main page. Install the proggy, then unzip all the add-ons to the program directory. Scan with it. SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) -- Thought for the day: The real world is a special case. --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) ---
Re: Re[5]: 1.36 install once more...
Hello Adam, At 17:45 13.11.99 +0100, you wrote: i give up, i`m waiting for 1.37 official... and someone send me the "correct" file... I don`t have to say what happend... "application corrupted! terminating" So it's most probably not a damaged file. My guess it that there is a virus on your pc. Did you already check that? ok, here`s the question: when is there`s going to be 1.37 official? I'm afraid this will not solve your problem. Regards, Wolfgang -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[5]: 1.36 install once more...
Welcome, burekbrigada wrote: bIf you want, I will send you Kill_CIH.exe (11.5 KB zipped) yes, please i`d be very greatful for this... /Adam + [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.wkrotce.pl \ | "Chiquita" | IRC: G_ADam @#zielonka #klub #radiostacja | \ Gobiowski + PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=SEND%20PGP / -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[10]: 1.36 install once more...
Welcome, about wincih.. i killed wincih that was in memory with kill_cih.exe ant then tried to check it with nocih.exe. It says that my memory is infected with wincih... so the file nocih.exe must be infected... all right.. anyone knows some good anti-wincih program? I have cleanich.exe , kill_cih.exe and nocih.exe . It would be nice if this program would check all the places, where virus can be (memory, disk) ... or just a good program working in dos mode... `cause cleancih doesn`t find anything... /Adam + [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.wkrotce.pl \ | "Chiquita" | IRC: G_ADam @#zielonka #klub #radiostacja | \ Gobiowski + PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=SEND%20PGP / -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: 1.36 install once more...
Welcome, Adam wrote: ... someone said about wincih, but it`s not that... well, I used so called cleancih.exe program from proland software... /Adam + [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.wkrotce.pl \ | "Chiquita" | IRC: G_ADam @#zielonka #klub #radiostacja | \ Gobiowski + PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=SEND%20PGP / -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: 1.36 install once more...
Welcome, Adam wrote: MH Try downloading it from a Tucow software library. I have the same MH problem with files downloaded, from RIT so I always go to MH http://tucows.cybercity.dk/ I downloaded it from polish mirror of tucows (fyi: tucows.icm.edu.pl) and guess what? yes, it still ... i didn`t use getright but ie downloaded it... well... i will try to download it by wget on my account... if this won`t help... maybe one of you will send me correct file? /Adam + [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.wkrotce.pl \ | "Chiquita" | IRC: G_ADam @#zielonka #klub #radiostacja | \ Gobiowski + PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=SEND%20PGP / -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[3]: 1.36 install once more...
Morning Adam Gobiowski, well, I used so called cleancih.exe program from proland software... Oh, I see :-( Maybe you should use different scanners anyway - possibly it's another virus? -- +--Jast |on Windows 98 4.10 Build :with The Bat! 1.36 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[3]: 1.36 install once more...
Welcome, great, just great... i downloaded it twice from polish tucows mirror, once by ie, once by wget on my linux account. Guess what, it didn`t work... funny, i`m begining to believe that some internet god doesn`t like me... my the_bat.exe file is: 1625031 bytes long. Is it correct length? I ckecked it with cleancih.exe and it says it`s not infected by wincih... Maybe i`m really dumb but I still don`t understand why it happend to me... /Adam + [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.wkrotce.pl \ | "Chiquita" | IRC: G_ADam @#zielonka #klub #radiostacja | \ Gobiowski + PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=SEND%20PGP / -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[4]: 1.36 install once more...
Hi Adam, Saturday, November 13, 1999, 12:32:13 PM, you wrote: AG Welcome, AG great, just great... i downloaded it twice from polish tucows mirror, AG once by ie, once by wget on my linux account. Guess what, it didn`t AG work... funny, i`m begining to believe that some internet god doesn`t AG like me... my the_bat.exe file is: 1625031 bytes long. Is it correct AG length? I ckecked it with cleancih.exe and it says it`s not infected AG by wincih... Maybe i`m really dumb but I still don`t understand why it AG happend to me... Yes that is the correct size, have you tried unpacking the compressed file with WinRAR or Zip and extracting it into your TB folders? WinRAR also give the option to repair damaged archives. This worked for me when I had a similar problem. HTH -- Best regards, Mark -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: 1.36 install once more...
Saturday, November 13, 1999 Hello Adam, Saturday, Saturday, November 13, 1999, you wrote: Adam Welcome, Adam i still have problems installing 1.36 on my computer. It gives Adam error: "Application Corrupted! Terminating" ... someone said about Adam wincih, but it`s not that... i downloaded it about 10 times, from Adam about 3 diffrent servers... so there can`t be something with Adam downloading... i think... Adam pleas help... Adam maybe installing beta version will help? if you get this error during install, try installing on a different system, and then copy the whole directory back to your system The bat hasnt anything of importance stored outside its own directory. So if the corruption is caused during the extraction that way you may get past that stage. Adam /Adam + [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.wkrotce.pl \ Adam | "Chiquita" | IRC: G_ADam @#zielonka #klub #radiostacja | Adam \ Gobiowski + PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=SEND%20PGP / Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.37 Beta/1 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[4]: 1.36 install once more...
Saturday, November 13, 1999 Hello Adam, Saturday, Saturday, November 13, 1999, you wrote: Adam Welcome, Adam great, just great... i downloaded it twice from polish tucows mirror, Adam once by ie, once by wget on my linux account. Guess what, it didn`t Adam work... funny, i`m begining to believe that some internet god doesn`t Adam like me... my the_bat.exe file is: 1625031 bytes long. Is it correct Adam length? I ckecked it with cleancih.exe and it says it`s not infected Adam by wincih... Maybe i`m really dumb but I still don`t understand why it Adam happend to me... I already emailed you to install on another system and move the installed files. On the other hand open it with winrar as the exe is a RAR-SFX file. So if rar is installed, right click the file and answer open with winrar and then after expansion run setup. Sometimes setup doesnt like it if files are present in themp dirs. So emptying those can also help Adam /Adam + [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.wkrotce.pl \ Adam | "Chiquita" | IRC: G_ADam @#zielonka #klub #radiostacja | Adam \ Gobiowski + PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=SEND%20PGP / Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.37 Beta/1 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[5]: 1.36 install once more...
Welcome, i don`t know, i give up... i downloaded it xxx times, tried to repeair it, but i think you know what happend... than i downoaded 1.37/beta1 and guess what... i give up, i`m waiting for 1.37 official... and someone send me the "correct" file... I don`t have to say what happend... "application corrupted! terminating" ok, here`s the question: when is there`s going to be 1.37 official? /Adam + [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.wkrotce.pl \ | "Chiquita" | IRC: G_ADam @#zielonka #klub #radiostacja | \ Gobiowski + PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=SEND%20PGP / -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[6]: 1.36 install once more...
Hi Adam, Saturday, November 13, 1999, 4:45:49 PM, you wrote: AG Welcome, AG i don`t know, i give up... i downloaded it xxx times, tried to repeair AG it, but i think you know what happend... than i downoaded 1.37/beta1 AG and guess what... AG i give up, i`m waiting for 1.37 official... AG and someone send me the "correct" file... I don`t have to say what AG happend... "application corrupted! terminating" AG ok, here`s the question: when is there`s going to be 1.37 official? Waiting for 1.37 is unlikely to solve your problem, could you explain exactly when you get the 'application corrupted' message, is it during unpacking i.e. when you click 'the_bat.exe' or is it when you have unpacked and click 'install' ?? If the error occurs when you click install it could be caused if you have used one of Ivanopulos cracks to your previous version, I am not suggesting you would do this of course:-) If this is the case you will need to firstly delete the following key from your registry HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT and also delete any executables or DLL's from your TB folders. Good Luck -- Best regards, Mark -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[4]: 1.36 install once more...
Morning Adam Gobiowski, Is it correct length? I ckecked it with cleancih.exe and it says it`s not infected by wincih... Note you should check *all* of your executable files for CIH. As you may notice, the "Application corrupted. Terminated." message appears only when the actual thebat.exe file is started, meaning that it gets infected right after execution, which means that the CIH (or other virus, possibly?) is memory-resident... -- +--Jast |on Windows 98 4.10 Build :with The Bat! 1.36 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[8]: 1.36 install once more...
Hi Adam, Saturday, November 13, 1999, 10:15:23 PM, you wrote: AG when I click install, when I try to unpack it self it says that one AG file is bad (thebat.exe)... AG I removed all of this stuff... still nothing... i don`t know... it AG must be, i say it MUST BE something with packed file... otherwise AG winrar wouldn`t say that thebat.exe (inside the_bat.exe sfx archive) AG is bad... If you like I can send you the file by e-mail directly, if you want it let me know -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.37 Beta/2 under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[9]: 1.36 install once more...
Sunday, November 14, 1999 Hello Mark, Sunday, Sunday, November 14, 1999, you wrote: Mark Hi Adam, Mark Saturday, November 13, 1999, 10:15:23 PM, you wrote: AG when I click install, when I try to unpack it self it says that one AG file is bad (thebat.exe)... AG I removed all of this stuff... still nothing... i don`t know... it AG must be, i say it MUST BE something with packed file... otherwise AG winrar wouldn`t say that thebat.exe (inside the_bat.exe sfx archive) AG is bad... Mark If you like I can send you the file by e-mail directly, if you want it Mark let me know you can download the beta as thats ONLY the exe No need to unpack but can you please run a proper virus check over your whole system as well?? Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.37 Beta/1 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
1.36 install once more...
Welcome, i still have problems installing 1.36 on my computer. It gives error: "Application Corrupted! Terminating" ... someone said about wincih, but it`s not that... i downloaded it about 10 times, from about 3 diffrent servers... so there can`t be something with downloading... i think... pleas help... maybe installing beta version will help? /Adam + [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.wkrotce.pl \ | "Chiquita" | IRC: G_ADam @#zielonka #klub #radiostacja | \ Gobiowski + PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=SEND%20PGP / -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: 1.36 install once more...
Hello Adam, Friday, November 12, 1999, 4:29:42 PM, you wrote: AG Welcome, AG i still have problems installing 1.36 on my computer. It gives AG error: "Application Corrupted! Terminating" ... someone said about AG wincih, but it`s not that... i downloaded it about 10 times, from AG about 3 diffrent servers... so there can`t be something with AG downloading... i think... AG pleas help... AG maybe installing beta version will help? AG /Adam + [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.wkrotce.pl \ AG | "Chiquita" | IRC: G_ADam @#zielonka #klub #radiostacja | AG \ Gobiowski + PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=SEND%20PGP / I can't really help here, but I just DL the Bat last week, and had no problem, I down loaded from the main site just a regular down load no helper apps. -- Best regards, Pasqualemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: 1.36 install once more...
Morning sirs, ... someone said about wincih, but it`s not that... Just are you sure? You did check this with a recent anti-virus program? I used AVP and it worked www.avp.ch You might want to use that aditionally, just to be sure :-) -- +--Jast |on Windows 98 4.10 Build :with The Bat! 1.36 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: 1.36 install once more...
Hi Adam, Friday, November 12, 1999, 10:29:42 PM, you wrote: AG Welcome, AG i still have problems installing 1.36 on my computer. It gives AG error: "Application Corrupted! Terminating" ... someone said about AG wincih, but it`s not that... i downloaded it about 10 times, from AG about 3 diffrent servers... so there can`t be something with AG downloading... i think... AG pleas help... AG maybe installing beta version will help? AG /Adam + [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.wkrotce.pl \ AG | "Chiquita" | IRC: G_ADam @#zielonka #klub #radiostacja | AG \ Gobiowski + PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=SEND%20PGP / Try downloading it from a Tucow software library. I have the same problem with files downloaded, from RIT so I always go to http://tucows.cybercity.dk/ Kind regards / Venlig hilsen, Mogensmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --