Re: 1.36 install once more...

1999-11-15 Thread Syafril Hermansyah


Hello Adam Gobiowski,

On Monday, November 15, 1999, 12:13:53 AM you told us:

AG right.. anyone knows some good anti-wincih program? I have
AG cleanich.exe , kill_cih.exe and nocih.exe .

I  have f-cih, but never use it yet. Would you like to test it ? I can
send you privately.

AG It would be nice if this program would check all the places, where
AG virus  can be (memory, disk) ... or just a good program working in
AG dos mode... `cause cleancih doesn`t find anything...

Are installing any anti-virus on Client not enough ?

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SOT: Anti-virus Programmes (was:Re[12]: 1.36 install once more...)

1999-11-15 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hi tracer,

on Monday, November 15, 1999, 2:53:23 PM GMT+0800, tracer wrote:

t In your case I would either get a good antivirus program (and that
t means NOT MCAFEE or NORTON) and run them to clean your system up.

Interesting, as I thought these were good. Anyway, I am using PC-Cillin
(registered and paid for), which I update about every week, and would
like to know your opinion on this.

Also, do you know whether it kills CIH so that I don't need the
programme you (illegally ;-)) attached to your posting?

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Re: SOT: Anti-virus Programmes (was:Re[12]: 1.36 install once more...)

1999-11-15 Thread tracer

Monday, November 15, 1999

Hello Thomas,

Monday, Monday, November 15, 1999, you wrote:

Thomas Hi tracer,

Thomas on Monday, November 15, 1999, 2:53:23 PM GMT+0800, tracer wrote:

t In your case I would either get a good antivirus program (and that
t means NOT MCAFEE or NORTON) and run them to clean your system up.

Thomas Interesting, as I thought these were good. Anyway, I am using PC-Cillin
Thomas (registered and paid for), which I update about every week, and would
Thomas like to know your opinion on this.

I havent really heard any bad news about PC-Cilin.
Or Dr Solomons even if latest version seems to be a twin of McAfee.
I just hope they learned enough from the Solomons product to improve
their own scanner...
They tried it before by nicking code from Symantec (they probably
ended up paying for it)...

I have a paid Thunderbyte and  the Norman successor to it.
Plus company wise we paid for several others.
AVP is one of them and it allows installation in an infected system to
clean it.
I quite liked it till 3-4 months ago when it caused me an unstable
system and now I run Dr Web, another Russian AV program which like AVP
gets about 95% of my samples. Without causing me a big headache.
I quite like the way it behaves and works (a bit like thunderbyte) by
letting you control what happens.
No idea how the latest Norman works as it was just emailed to me a few
days ago and I was busy with another problem.

With both Norton and McAfee I have seen many disasters and to get the
best advice you really should go to those most likely to get
infected...
Ask any hacking/cracking group what their opinion is  and you will be
convinced..
I know, that doesnt mean much as answer but using a program like this
depends on you as user, your system  , you doing your updates.
Your knowledge of what the program does/doesnt do.
Not only on the actual antivirus program.

Norton and McAfee marketing is excellent and their latest versions are
getting a lot better but if you test them over as I did  on a set of
around 1 virus strains, I found they recognised around 6000 or so,
and AVP, and several others got close to 9500. Still leaves 500 they
ignored but then a lot of infections will get caught by their
actions..
Essentially they are a bit the victim of our last dead horse
subject trying to be idiot proof and simple enough for the
masses... But they donot work properly!
I even suspect that some 10 dead drives I saw last year may have been
caused by Nortons AVP life update corrupting the MBR. One drive died
on the reboot. I ended up with a sized 0 partition front of the real
partition and while I got the data off, drive somehow like the other 9
was physical damaged. We never figured out what really happened but as
one died during the update and all the others were running NAV 4...


I myself use a combination of things and have over the years never
been infected except one time, a backdoor but that trojan was a total
new one and my firewall caught it after which a friendly visitor
recognised my system name and told me what was running and how to get rid of it.
It was quite obvious as I suddenly had loads of visitors tryng to get
into my system... And they were very annoyed to get kicked off if they
insisted too long...
At present with the latest strains of Outlook related virus strains I
am locally advicing  to dump any MS email programs as its getting too
dangerous as the latest donot even require you to open the attachments
anymore.
(but thats a kind of useless advice here as we use thebat!)


Thomas Also, do you know whether it kills CIH so that I don't need the
Thomas programme you (illegally ;-)) attached to your posting?
Its a legal freeware program.
100% sure, I can give you the website as well...
Spinrite isnt but then I wouldnt post that.   Too big anyway.
He also wrote a program to test zip and Jazz disks to see if the
drive/disks may have the click of death problem.

Nortons 2000 WILL clean CIH infected files.
Your program no idea.
McAfee was reported to have cleaned and all the files were useless...
I know as I did one today... About 4 hours ago I was called to clean a
system with pretty park or whatever and which someone had tried to
clean manually following lousy instructions from the website. he then
used Norton which quarantened the offending file after which windows
didnt work anymore. Noting executed!.
Anyway, I ran scanreg from dos, grabbed a backup registry 3 days old,
rebooted and he had a working system after which Norton (had to be
reinstalled cleaned the lot. So making sure as one virus means the
owner wasnt properly protected, we ran the Norton over it and it found
the CIH. Not active but it cleaned it.
No idea if the file is then still runnable!
Basically the real cure is get the data, reinstall as you can never
properly trust the system after cleaning but I know, most people donot
do it...

AVP I know can clean it. It intercepted last year a whole cd full with
it. A collection of 

Re: 1.36 install once more...

1999-11-15 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev

Hi there!

On 14 Nov 99, at 18:13, Adam Go³Ëbiowski wrote
about "Re[10]: 1.36 install once more...":

 about wincih.. i killed wincih that was in memory with kill_cih.exe
 ant then tried to check it with nocih.exe. It says that my memory is
 infected with wincih... so the file nocih.exe must be infected... all
 right.. anyone knows some good anti-wincih program? I have
 cleanich.exe , kill_cih.exe and nocih.exe . It would be nice if this
 program would check all the places, where virus can be (memory, disk)
 ... or just a good program working in dos mode... `cause cleancih
 doesn`t find anything...

Goto www.dialognauka.ru and get the free version of Dr.Web 
(better to pay for the non-free:-)). Then grab all the add-ons 
available from their main page. Install the proggy, then unzip all 
the add-ons to the program directory. Scan with it.


SY, Alex
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Re: Re[5]: 1.36 install once more...

1999-11-14 Thread Wolfgang Kynast

Hello Adam,

At 17:45 13.11.99 +0100, you wrote:

i give up, i`m waiting for 1.37 official...
and someone send me the "correct" file... I don`t have to say what
happend... "application corrupted! terminating"

So it's most probably not a damaged file. My guess it
that there is a virus on your pc. Did you already 
check that?

ok, here`s the question: when is there`s going to be 1.37 official?

I'm afraid this will not solve your problem.

Regards,
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Re[5]: 1.36 install once more...

1999-11-14 Thread Adam Gobiowski

Welcome,
burekbrigada wrote:

bIf you want, I will send you Kill_CIH.exe (11.5 KB zipped)
yes, please i`d be very greatful for this...


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Re[10]: 1.36 install once more...

1999-11-14 Thread Adam Gobiowski

Welcome,

about wincih.. i killed wincih that was in memory with kill_cih.exe
ant then tried to check it with nocih.exe. It says that my memory is
infected with wincih... so the file nocih.exe must be infected... all
right.. anyone knows some good anti-wincih program? I have
cleanich.exe , kill_cih.exe and nocih.exe . It would be nice if this
program would check all the places, where virus can be (memory, disk)
... or just a good program working in dos mode... `cause cleancih
doesn`t find anything...

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Re[2]: 1.36 install once more...

1999-11-13 Thread Adam Gobiowski

Welcome,
Adam wrote:

  ... someone said about
   wincih, but it`s not that...

well, I used so called cleancih.exe program from proland software...

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Re[2]: 1.36 install once more...

1999-11-13 Thread Adam Gobiowski

Welcome,
Adam wrote:

MH Try downloading it from a Tucow software library.  I have the same
MH problem with files downloaded, from RIT so I always go to
MH http://tucows.cybercity.dk/
I downloaded it from polish mirror of tucows (fyi: tucows.icm.edu.pl)
and guess what? yes, it still ... i didn`t use getright but ie
downloaded it... well... i will try to download it by wget on my
account... if this won`t help... maybe one of you will send me correct
file?


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Re[3]: 1.36 install once more...

1999-11-13 Thread Jast

Morning Adam Gobiowski,

 well, I used so called cleancih.exe program from proland software...

 Oh, I see :-(
 Maybe you should use different scanners anyway - possibly it's
 another virus?


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Re[3]: 1.36 install once more...

1999-11-13 Thread Adam Gobiowski

Welcome,

great, just great... i downloaded it twice from polish tucows mirror,
once by ie, once by wget on my linux account. Guess what, it didn`t
work... funny, i`m begining to believe that some internet god doesn`t
like me... my the_bat.exe file is: 1625031 bytes long. Is it correct
length? I ckecked it with cleancih.exe and it says it`s not infected
by wincih... Maybe i`m really dumb but I still don`t understand why it
happend to me...

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Re[4]: 1.36 install once more...

1999-11-13 Thread Mark Aston

Hi Adam,

Saturday, November 13, 1999, 12:32:13 PM, you wrote:

AG Welcome,

AG great, just great... i downloaded it twice from polish tucows mirror,
AG once by ie, once by wget on my linux account. Guess what, it didn`t
AG work... funny, i`m begining to believe that some internet god doesn`t
AG like me... my the_bat.exe file is: 1625031 bytes long. Is it correct
AG length? I ckecked it with cleancih.exe and it says it`s not infected
AG by wincih... Maybe i`m really dumb but I still don`t understand why it
AG happend to me...
Yes  that is the correct size, have you tried unpacking the compressed
file  with  WinRAR  or  Zip  and  extracting  it into your TB folders?
WinRAR also give the option to repair damaged archives.
This worked for me when I had a similar problem.
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Re: 1.36 install once more...

1999-11-13 Thread tracer

Saturday, November 13, 1999

Hello Adam,

Saturday, Saturday, November 13, 1999, you wrote:

Adam Welcome,

Adam   i still have problems installing 1.36 on my computer. It gives
Adam   error: "Application Corrupted! Terminating" ... someone said about
Adam   wincih, but it`s not that... i downloaded it about 10 times, from
Adam   about 3 diffrent servers... so there can`t be something with
Adam   downloading... i think...
Adam   pleas help...
Adam   maybe installing beta version will help?
if you get this error during install, try installing on a different
system, and then copy the whole directory back to your system
The bat hasnt anything of importance stored outside its own directory.
So if the corruption is caused during the extraction that way you
may get past that stage.

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Re[4]: 1.36 install once more...

1999-11-13 Thread tracer

Saturday, November 13, 1999

Hello Adam,

Saturday, Saturday, November 13, 1999, you wrote:

Adam Welcome,

Adam great, just great... i downloaded it twice from polish tucows mirror,
Adam once by ie, once by wget on my linux account. Guess what, it didn`t
Adam work... funny, i`m begining to believe that some internet god doesn`t
Adam like me... my the_bat.exe file is: 1625031 bytes long. Is it correct
Adam length? I ckecked it with cleancih.exe and it says it`s not infected
Adam by wincih... Maybe i`m really dumb but I still don`t understand why it
Adam happend to me...
I already emailed you to install on another system and move the
installed files. On the other hand open it with winrar as the exe is a
RAR-SFX file. So if rar is installed, right click the file and answer
open with winrar and then after expansion run setup.

Sometimes setup doesnt like it if files are present in themp dirs.
So emptying those can also help
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Re[5]: 1.36 install once more...

1999-11-13 Thread Adam Gobiowski

Welcome,

i don`t know, i give up... i downloaded it xxx times, tried to repeair
it, but i think you know what happend... than i downoaded 1.37/beta1
and guess what...
i give up, i`m waiting for 1.37 official...
and someone send me the "correct" file... I don`t have to say what
happend... "application corrupted! terminating"
ok, here`s the question: when is there`s going to be 1.37 official?

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Re[6]: 1.36 install once more...

1999-11-13 Thread Mark Aston

Hi Adam,

Saturday, November 13, 1999, 4:45:49 PM, you wrote:

AG Welcome,

AG i don`t know, i give up... i downloaded it xxx times, tried to repeair
AG it, but i think you know what happend... than i downoaded 1.37/beta1
AG and guess what...
AG i give up, i`m waiting for 1.37 official...
AG and someone send me the "correct" file... I don`t have to say what
AG happend... "application corrupted! terminating"
AG ok, here`s the question: when is there`s going to be 1.37 official?

Waiting  for 1.37 is unlikely to solve your problem, could you explain
exactly when you get the 'application corrupted' message, is it during
unpacking  i.e.  when  you  click 'the_bat.exe' or is it when you have
unpacked and click 'install' ??
If  the  error occurs when you click install it could be caused if you
have  used one of Ivanopulos cracks to your previous version, I am not
suggesting you would do this of course:-) If this is the case you will
need to firstly delete the following key from your registry
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT
and also delete any executables or DLL's from your TB folders.
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Re[4]: 1.36 install once more...

1999-11-13 Thread Jast

Morning Adam Gobiowski,

 Is it correct length? I ckecked it with cleancih.exe and it says
 it`s not infected by wincih...

   Note  you  should  check *all* of your executable files for CIH. As
   you  may  notice,  the "Application corrupted. Terminated." message
   appears  only  when  the actual thebat.exe file is started, meaning
   that  it  gets infected right after execution, which means that the
   CIH (or other virus, possibly?) is memory-resident...


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Re[8]: 1.36 install once more...

1999-11-13 Thread Mark Aston

Hi Adam,

Saturday, November 13, 1999, 10:15:23 PM, you wrote:


AG when I click install, when I try to unpack it self it says that one
AG file is bad (thebat.exe)...

AG I removed all of this stuff... still nothing... i don`t know... it
AG must be, i say it MUST BE something with packed file... otherwise
AG winrar wouldn`t say that thebat.exe (inside the_bat.exe sfx archive)
AG is bad...

If you like I can send you the file by e-mail directly, if you want it
let me know
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Re[9]: 1.36 install once more...

1999-11-13 Thread tracer

Sunday, November 14, 1999

Hello Mark,

Sunday, Sunday, November 14, 1999, you wrote:

Mark Hi Adam,

Mark Saturday, November 13, 1999, 10:15:23 PM, you wrote:


AG when I click install, when I try to unpack it self it says that one
AG file is bad (thebat.exe)...

AG I removed all of this stuff... still nothing... i don`t know... it
AG must be, i say it MUST BE something with packed file... otherwise
AG winrar wouldn`t say that thebat.exe (inside the_bat.exe sfx archive)
AG is bad...

Mark If you like I can send you the file by e-mail directly, if you want it
Mark let me know

you can download the   beta as thats ONLY the exe
 No need to unpack but can you please run a proper virus check over
 your whole system as well??

Best regards,
 
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1.36 install once more...

1999-11-12 Thread Adam Gobiowski

Welcome,

  i still have problems installing 1.36 on my computer. It gives
  error: "Application Corrupted! Terminating" ... someone said about
  wincih, but it`s not that... i downloaded it about 10 times, from
  about 3 diffrent servers... so there can`t be something with
  downloading... i think...
  pleas help...
  maybe installing beta version will help?

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Re: 1.36 install once more...

1999-11-12 Thread Pasquale J. Festa Sr.

Hello Adam,

Friday, November 12, 1999, 4:29:42 PM, you wrote:

AG Welcome,

AG   i still have problems installing 1.36 on my computer. It gives
AG   error: "Application Corrupted! Terminating" ... someone said about
AG   wincih, but it`s not that... i downloaded it about 10 times, from
AG   about 3 diffrent servers... so there can`t be something with
AG   downloading... i think...
AG   pleas help...
AG   maybe installing beta version will help?

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I can't really help here, but I just DL the Bat last week, and had no
problem, I down loaded from the main site just a regular down load no
helper apps.

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Re: 1.36 install once more...

1999-11-12 Thread Jast

Morning sirs,

  ... someone said about
   wincih, but it`s not that...

 Just are you sure? You did check this with a recent anti-virus
 program? I used AVP and it worked www.avp.ch You might want to use
 that aditionally, just to be sure :-)


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Re: 1.36 install once more...

1999-11-12 Thread Mogens Holst

Hi Adam,

Friday, November 12, 1999, 10:29:42 PM, you wrote:

AG Welcome,

AG   i still have problems installing 1.36 on my computer. It gives
AG   error: "Application Corrupted! Terminating" ... someone said about
AG   wincih, but it`s not that... i downloaded it about 10 times, from
AG   about 3 diffrent servers... so there can`t be something with
AG   downloading... i think...
AG   pleas help...
AG   maybe installing beta version will help?

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Try downloading it from a Tucow software library.  I have the same
problem with files downloaded, from RIT so I always go to
http://tucows.cybercity.dk/

Kind regards / Venlig hilsen,
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