Re: Advice on configuring with Win2K? unable to save .tmp files -HELP!
Hi Simon, VN Solutions I have tried (none worked): Are you by any chance using EFS? I had problems like the ones you described when encrypting the mail base folders and then using multiple profiles and checking mail so I stopped using it. No I'm not using EFS. I only compress the folders when TB exits. Could you tell me how you have your own machine set up, so I can compare? Thanks, -Vishal Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Advice on configuring with Win2K? unable to save .tmp files -HELP!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Vishal, On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 13:27:40 -0700 your time, you authored this: VN Could you tell me how you have your own machine set up, so I can VN compare? I have multiple profiles set up for various uses. For example, I have a design authoring profile and an Internet profile and a main profile, and a testing profile. I access my mail from each one. I launch TB! from the same installation folder, and the mail base is stored under a common data folder on a partition. When logged into each profile I set up the same TB! accounts so that they all use the common mail base. I never have problems like this, and it means I always have access to my mail... which is most important of course g - -- Slán, Simon theycallmesimon.co.uk ___ Faffing about with TB! v1.61 on W2K SP3 PGP Key: http://pgp.netbanger.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Privacy is freedom. Protect your privacy with PGP! Comment: KeyID: 0x5C7E8966 Comment: Fingerprint: 851C F927 0296 FF1C 70A2 474F CB6E 6FFE 5C7E 8966 iQA/AwUBPbbguctub/5cfolmEQJDCACeLr2TRTMpTqBIyJPe2k+nMlJ+muEAoLKf O9KTPR2YHW7Llaw6zDlCGI0e =KXcA -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Advice on configuring with Win2K? unable to save .tmp files -HELP!
I'm afraid I had to delete the mails several people sent me in response to my question because of the same problems I was talking about. I can't remember what their names were, so I'll try and reply to all of them here: Someone suggested checking the User Depot registry settings to fix this. I did look at the settings and for some reason the entries for dir#1, dir#2 etc. were empty. I presume this was because I had not set up any specific directories and TB was using the defaults. I modified these entries to reflect the actual directories where I was storing my mail. Unfortunately this didn't work and the problems continued. I haven't tried exporting and importing the whole TB registry key tree yet. I was also asked by someone else why I was using a PU account instead of an admin account for all my work. The reason is security. In Windows, as in Linux, I usually avoid using the Admin account unless I absolutely need to, in case I inadvertently make a systemwide change that could have security implications. I'm not familiar, but not extremely well so with Win2K yet. This also serves to protect me in case I happen to be affected by some kind of malware that spreads and causes damages commensurate with the privileges of the user that executed it. By avoiding the admin account I can minimize the potential danger. As a temporary fix, I've deleted all the shortcuts to TB from my admin desktop so that I don't even TRY to use it from there :) I'd really like to know how someone else has configured their system, however, and what TB tries to save emails in .tmp files in my user's temp directory for. Thanks, -Vishal Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Advice on configuring with Win2K? unable to save .tmp files -HELP!
My setup is essentially similar. I use a common data folder, not on a separate partition though. I also set up the same TB accounts so that they use the same mail base. I don't see any reason for TB to behave this way :( Could you tell me what your security permissions for the MAIL and TB folders look like? And have you ever noticed TB try to do some processing in the temp folder? Perhaps one of the developers, if they're on the list, could provide an answer to that last bit? -Vishal Wednesday, October 23, 2002, 10:47:25 AM, you wrote: S I have multiple profiles set up for various uses. For example, I have a S design authoring profile and an Internet profile and a main profile, and a S testing profile. I access my mail from each one. I launch TB! from the same S installation folder, and the mail base is stored under a common data folder S on a partition. When logged into each profile I set up the same TB! accounts S so that they all use the common mail base. I never have problems like this, S and it means I always have access to my mail... which is most important of S course g S - -- S Slán, Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Advice on configuring with Win2K? unable to save .tmp files -HELP!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In mid:958975235.20021023183957;myrealbox.com, Vishal Nakra [VN] wrote:' VN As a temporary fix, I've deleted all the shortcuts to TB from my VN admin desktop so that I don't even TRY to use it from there :) VN I'd really like to know how someone else has configured their VN system, however, and what TB tries to save emails in .tmp files VN in my user's temp directory for. My only suggestion would be that you boot to admin mode where you have TB! working as it should. Export the registry key: HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/rit to file. Boot to power user mode and then import the same key. Then start up TB!. This should really cure the problem. If not, then something else is amiss that is interfering and TB! is suffering for it. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta7 WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1 (Win32) - GPGshell v2.60 iD8DBQE9t0m1V8nrYCsHF+IRAiSdAJ9gQ8nrnWZTshUCDnIdgKUZ7U6I+QCg0/lm 5KdQzycQfH42dinsP8E9eRQ= =oOXJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Advice on configuring with Win2K? unable to save .tmp files - HELP!
Hi, I posted this question a few days ago, but no one was able to help. I'm repeating it in the hope that someone might be able to give it a shot this time around, since I am really tired of this. If someone could tell me how they have TB configured on Win2K, that would be a big help too. I use Windows 2000 Professional, SP3. The sequence of actions is this. I always use TB when logged on to Windows as a normal Power User. If I subsequently happen to check my mail when logged on as Administrator, and then try to check the mail at some future time when logged back on as a Power User(my normal mode of usage), I have problems. Sometimes, TB shows all my mailboxes as empty. Sometimes only some of them. One symptom I always experience, however, is that when I check my mail, the connection center shows that TB is trying to 'import' messages. It usually fails in this with the error message: FETCH - could not store message (file name c:\documents and..\my_power_user\LOCAL SETTING\Temp\some_file.tmp) where some_file is of the form bat123.tmp. All this time, the connection center shows importing messages. End result is that TB retrieves my mail from the POP server but fails to save it to my hard disk. I presume it uses my User's temp directory for some kind of preliminary processing before finally storing the mail permanently in my Program Files folder, which is what I have set to be the location of storage. TB appears to fail at this preliminary step. Subsequently, when I log as Admin and open up TB in hopes of fixing the problem, I get similar messages. These symptoms always show up the first time after installation that I try to check my mail as Admin after having used it as a normal User for a while. Solutions I have tried (none worked): -Reinstalling TB as Admin and Power User. -Changing the mail folders for all my accounts (in Account\properties\files and directories) to the exact folders where they are stored (i.e the folder with the name of my Account), rather than the default that TB shows them to be stored in. The default usually points to the correct folder, however, so this was a pretty unnecessary step. -Making backup copies of the mail folder for each of the accounts and then trying to make TB use those when things get screwed up. Makes no difference - the (sometimes) empty mailboxes and unable to save.. messages continue. - Allowing my Power User account full access to TB's program directory and all subdirectories. I really need someone to tell me how they have their own things set up. Thanks, -Vishal Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Advice on configuring with Win2K? unable to save .tmp files -HELP!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Vishal, On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 17:15:51 -0700 your time, you authored this: [snip] VN Solutions I have tried (none worked): Are you by any chance using EFS? I had problems like the ones you described when encrypting the mail base folders and then using multiple profiles and checking mail so I stopped using it. - -- Slán, Simon theycallmesimon.co.uk ___ Faffing about with TB! v1.61 on W2K SP3 PGP Key: http://pgp.netbanger.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Privacy is freedom. Protect your privacy with PGP! Comment: KeyID: 0x5C7E8966 Comment: Fingerprint: 851C F927 0296 FF1C 70A2 474F CB6E 6FFE 5C7E 8966 iQA/AwUBPbXKhMtub/5cfolmEQKSuwCgk6Ud0Dl4BMRlTXSNZk5gJcGQLSoAnixq qHHh4fgzitEw4gS/CvawqU1G =ZR9Q -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Advice on configuring with Win2K? unable to save .tmp files -HELP!
On Tuesday, October 22, 2002, 8:15:51 PM, Vishal Nakra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VN I posted this question a few days ago, but no one was able to help. VN I'm repeating it in the hope that someone might be able to give it a VN shot this time around, since I am really tired of this. If someone VN could tell me how they have TB configured on Win2K, that would be a VN big help too. VN I use Windows 2000 Professional, SP3. The sequence of actions is this. VN I always use TB when logged on to Windows as a normal Power User. If I VN subsequently happen to check my mail when logged on as Administrator, and then try to check the mail VN at some future time when logged back on as a Power User(my normal mode of VN usage), I have problems. TB keeps it's registries setting in HKEY_CURRENT_USER. This is user specific. Try exporting HKCU\RIT\The Bat! when logged in as a PU, then import when an Admin. You may need to tweak a little. \Users Depot is a critical key that describes the location of mail directories for each user. (rest of message snipped.) jon - jwayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Advice on configuring with Win2K? unable to save .tmp files -HELP!
Vishal- Tuesday, October 22, 2002, 5:15:51 PM, you wrote: VN I really need someone to tell me how they have their own things set VN up. Is there some reason you need to log on as a Power User instead of Administrator? On my Win2k setup I'm always logged on as an Admin and this has never caused any problems for me. Are you trying to hide things from yourself? Keep yourself out of certain areas of your computer? The only time I *ever* drop out of Admin mode is to test out something I've written to make sure it works with restricted privileges. I mean, it's your own machine, nicht wahr? Why not just use the thing? I admit that I don't have any more ideas about why your TB installation is acting up like that, but I'd seriously check out the CURRENT_USER section of the registry while you're logged in with Power User mode to see if there's a clue there. I realize that you've uninstalled and reinstalled, but I'm not sure that simply uninstalling removes all the RIT entries. -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
