Re: Another time macro mistake!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Andreas, On 08 April 2001 at 10:14:48 +0200 (which was 09:14 where I live) Andreas Schwartmann wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points: As to the %ODate macro: I rather use the english one, because otherwise the day gets pinned down in German. I gather you'd rather like to read "Wednesday" than "Mittwoch". Right? ;-) RB That isn't right! I only use "%ODate" and I don't have the German RB version! I don't know how it is possible to get the German RB version of the date. AS As you can see above, it happens: I just changed the last AS "%ODATEEN" back to "%ODATE" and it produces Sonntag instead of AS sunday! If you are still looking for an answer to this problem, an old friend of the UDL and a famed RegEx wizard would like to take a shot. This would require you to join TBTECH and post a question about it there. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.52 Beta/5/iKey1000 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOtrLLTnkJKuSnc2gEQIjVQCeLET3vgj9owWVggtwlylfQXmW5Y0AnR9Y CkBCZFhFFz7/K4/0MOtykkq9 =YU78 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Another time macro mistake!
Hi Andreas, on Sat, 7 Apr 2001 22:59:52 +0200 GMT (which was 07.04.2001, 22:59 +0100 GMT where I live) Andreas Schwartmann wrote: As to the %ODate macro: I rather use the english one, because otherwise the day gets pinned down in German. I gather you'd rather like to read "Wednesday" than "Mittwoch". Right? ;-) That isn't right! I only use "%ODate" and I don't have the German version! I don't know how it is possible to get the German version of the date. -- Best regards, Roland mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-Key: 0x0D023C45 I use The Bat! v1.51 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A ! -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Another time macro mistake!
Hello Roland, On Sunday, April 08, 2001 at 09:45:38GMT +0200 (which was 09:45 AM where I live) you wrote: RB Hi Andreas, RB on Sat, 7 Apr 2001 22:59:52 +0200 GMT (which was 07.04.2001, 22:59 RB +0100 GMT where I live) Andreas Schwartmann wrote: As to the %ODate macro: I rather use the english one, because otherwise the day gets pinned down in German. I gather you'd rather like to read "Wednesday" than "Mittwoch". Right? ;-) RB That isn't right! I only use "%ODate" and I don't have the German RB version! I don't know how it is possible to get the German version of RB the date. It depends on your system wide location settings (control panel) if you set it to German it will display the date in German format and language and if you set it to any other it will change corresponding to that. -- Best regards, Andr Engelhardt /--\ |Eternal Tedium Sound Media Design | |http://www.eternaltedium.com | |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |Mobile: +49 162 751 8530 (sms capable)| |PGP Key ID: 0x927EF264| \--/ -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another time macro mistake!
Hi Roland, On Sun, 8 Apr 2001, at 09:45:38 +0200 you wrote: That isn't right! I only use "%ODate" and I don't have the German version! I don't know how it is possible to get the German version of the date. I also use %ODate in my reply template and it produces a correct date in German format. What do your Windows localisation settings say? Perhaps you changed your country settings for some reason? -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 |Lars Geiger | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=GetPublicKey | -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Another time macro mistake!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hello Ming-Li, On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, at 08:18:35 [GMT -0700] (which was 17:18 where I live) you wrote: ML IOW, the ML correct outcome should be: ML "on Tuesday, 2 Apr 2001 at 18:34:57 GMT -0700 (PDT) (which was Mon, ML April 03, 2001 03:34 where I live)" Since I am also interested in the argument, and the statement is obviously wrong, could you please review it and advise accordingly ? Thanks for your kind help. - -- Best regards, Joan Josep mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQCVAwUBOtAOWg1dheHKjKWlAQHrVgQAqGd6hGF4TJs5I2LP+kxslTSfpUuQIwri q4mJ/HOSUUvAYTs+l0Y7AehbHwjh7PAD8F1AbEQmADg/Vqtdygwnk26Vy6y3IzLj mfmezo+vggz5nlaqer3KfdnJxo6dLPxao4RQucQ0x34FdQDY8wjYMcODJn9FJslb 2ntNQj//lq0= =H2dR -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Another time macro mistake!
Hi, Bat folks, on Sun, 8 Apr 2001 at 09:45:38 GMT +0200 (which was Sonntag, 8. April 2001, 09:45 where I live) Roland Burger wrote the following lines regarding "Another time macro mistake!": RB Hi Andreas, RB on Sat, 7 Apr 2001 22:59:52 +0200 GMT (which was 07.04.2001, 22:59 RB +0100 GMT where I live) Andreas Schwartmann wrote: As to the %ODate macro: I rather use the english one, because otherwise the day gets pinned down in German. I gather you'd rather like to read "Wednesday" than "Mittwoch". Right? ;-) RB That isn't right! I only use "%ODate" and I don't have the German RB version! I don't know how it is possible to get the German version of RB the date. As you can see above, it happens: I just changed the last "%ODATEEN" back to "%ODATE" and it produces Sonntag instead of sunday! I use Win 2000 Pro (the US version) with time and local settings set to german. Take care, Andreas -- My ICQ#: 23060752 My homepage: www.andreas-schwartmann.de Message created with The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1. "Standing on the gallows with my head in a noose. Any minute now I'm expecting all hell to break loose." - Bob Dylan -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another time macro mistake!
Hi Andr, on Sun, 8 Apr 2001 09:53:50 +0200 GMT (which was 08.04.2001, 09:53 +0100 GMT where I live) Andr Engelhardt wrote: It depends on your system wide location settings (control panel) if you set it to German it will display the date in German format and language and if you set it to any other it will change corresponding to that. My country settings in control panel: Deutsch (Standard)! However, I get the date only in English, as you can see above! -- Best regards, Roland mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-Key: 0x0D023C45 I use The Bat! v1.51 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A ! -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another time macro mistake!
Hi Lars,
on Sun, 8 Apr 2001 09:56:52 +0200 GMT (which was 08.04.2001, 09:56
+0100 GMT where I live) Lars Geiger wrote:
I also use %ODate in my reply template and it produces a correct
date in German format. What do your Windows localisation settings
say? Perhaps you changed your country settings for some reason?
Country settings in control panel say: Deutsch (Standard)!
Here my RegEx:
%WRAPPED='on%SETPATTREGEXP="(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))"%REGEXPMATCH="%HEADERS"
GMT (which was %ODateShort, %OTime +0100 GMT where I live) %OFromName wrote:'
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Re: Another time macro mistake!
Hi Andreas, on Sun, 8 Apr 2001 10:14:48 +0200 GMT (which was 08.04.2001, 10:14 +0100 GMT where I live) Andreas Schwartmann wrote: As you can see above, it happens: I just changed the last "%ODATEEN" back to "%ODATE" and it produces Sonntag instead of sunday! The first part of the date (on Sun ...) is still in English and not in German. I, however, search to write this part in German, because I have relative in the USA to whom I write in German language! -- Best regards, Roland mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-Key: 0x0D023C45 I use The Bat! v1.51 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A ! -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another time macro mistake!
Hi Roland,
On Sun, 8 Apr 2001, at 10:43:53 +0200 you wrote:
Country settings in control panel say: Deutsch (Standard)!
Here my RegEx:
%WRAPPED='on%SETPATTREGEXP="(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))"%REGEXPMATCH="%HEADERS"
GMT (which was %ODateShort, %OTime +0100 GMT where I live) %OFromName wrote:'
It won't work because you don't use %ODate in your regexp, do
you? Your regexp takes just the whole information from the "Date:
..." line from the headers and puts it into your message. If you
want the date to be in German, try something like
%WRAPPED='am %ODate schrieb %OFromName:'
This will produce the correct output. But if you use a regexp to
get the date and timezone from the headers, how should that be
translated into German?
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Re: Another time macro mistake!
On Sat, 7 Apr 2001 at 22:59:52 +0200 Andreas Schwartmann wrote: As to the %ODate macro: I rather use the english one, because otherwise the day gets pinned down in German. Ah-so. That makes sense. I gather you'd rather like to read "Wednesday" than "Mittwoch". Right? ;-) Not really. :-) I don't mean to brag, but even though my German is poor, ehhh, very poor, I can still read days of week, numbers, etc. Ok, I admit it ... I'm bragging. ;-) Not that there's much to brag, tough. Give me a whole sentence and I'll be looking all over for the dictionary. :-( -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/4 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another time macro mistake!
On Sun, 8 Apr 2001 at 10:07:53 +0200 Joan Josep wrote: Since I am also interested in the argument, and the statement is obviously wrong, could you please review it and advise accordingly ? Sorry, but I don't get your question. Which statement is obviously wrong? You mean the original regexp macros? I think the problem has been solved (see Allie's instruction). What other problem is there? -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/4 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another time macro mistake!
On Sun, 8 Apr 2001 at 10:49:13 +0200 Roland Burger wrote: The first part of the date (on Sun ...) is still in English and not in German. I, however, search to write this part in German, because I have relative in the USA to whom I write in German language! The first part was taken (by the Regexp macro pair %SETPATTREGEXP and %REGEXPBLINDMATCH) from the Date field of the original message's header, which is always in English. There's nothing we can do about it. You may use %ODate instead, as Andreas originally did (see the starting post of this thread), but then you'll run into problem of wrong dates as reported by Andreas. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/4 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Another time macro mistake!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hello Ming-Li, On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, at 08:18:35 [GMT -0700] (which was 07/04/2001 (D/M/Y) 17:18 where I live) you wrote: ML "on Tuesday, 2 Apr 2001 at 18:34:57 GMT -0700 (PDT) (which was Mon, ML April 03, 2001 03:34 where I live)" I now see that Tuesday and Mon have just been exchanged. Do not take me for punctillious, rather that I am beginning to understand regex, that still looks to me like a bird pecking on my keyboard, and the exchange confused me. - -- Best regards, Joan Josep mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQCVAwUBOtCZ5A1dheHKjKWlAQF+GgP+OybvaYdXVPchawhVIL/ES5OWlCPF0T5V wtB+sv5CIiTceL+ow+HjhfOq+jryrxNEiejjaIVxIdRryb2JktX0P/W9f0hu9uU7 QHBlECMlh1u0y3GmRiKaXbeOxtmFPv6kbJu6uDvnvmvMA3Ob4yxJjYj0l+eXORik Vak7ijNoPCU= =X09V -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Another time macro mistake!
Hello, Bat fans,
I received a mail from Toronto, Canada. When responding to it, the
time zone macro gave me the following line:
"on Tuesday, April 03, 2001 at 18:34:57 GMT -0700 (PDT) (which was
Tuesday, April 03, 2001 03:34 where I live) you wrote the following
..."
This is of course wrong! Since it was already Wednesday in Germany,
where I live, when the mail was sent from Canada!
I used this macro:
%Wrapped='%SETPATTREGEXP="(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%HEADERS"on
%ODATEEN at %SUBPATT="3" GMT%SUBPATT="4" (which was %ODATEEN %OTIME where I live) you
wrote the following lines regarding "%OSUBJ":'
What went wrong here?
Take care,
Andreas
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Re: Another time macro mistake!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 7 Apr 2001 13:30:19 +0200, Andreas graced us with these comments: AS "on Tuesday, April 03, 2001 at 18:34:57 GMT -0700 (PDT) (which was AS Tuesday, April 03, 2001 03:34 where I live) you wrote the following AS ..." AS This is of course wrong! Since it was already Wednesday in Germany, AS where I live, when the mail was sent from Canada! AS I used this macro: macro snipped AS What went wrong here? In the macro you included, " On %ODateen..". This macro generates the original day the message was sent corrected to your time zone corrected. If you wish to include the day the message was sent, uncorrected to your time zone, you need to take it from the message headers. Replace %ODATEEN with %SUBPATT="2". - -- Allie, -= A. Curtis Martin =- List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/1 \\// Win2k (SP1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOs8UhlfJ62ArBxfiEQI8MQCg2oVKSGgYSJ7djWXtPOjOQdVUYokAn2QG vK47f/CM59kWinFV55+LQXKN =4bjU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Another time macro mistake!
Hi, Bat folks, on Saturday, April 07, 2001 at 08:22:14 GMT -0500 (which was 15:22 where I live) A Curtis Martin wrote the following lines regarding "Another time macro mistake!": ACM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- ACM Hash: SHA1 ACM On Sat, 7 Apr 2001 13:30:19 +0200, Andreas graced us with these comments: AS "on Tuesday, April 03, 2001 at 18:34:57 GMT -0700 (PDT) (which was AS Tuesday, April 03, 2001 03:34 where I live) you wrote the following AS ..." AS This is of course wrong! Since it was already Wednesday in Germany, AS where I live, when the mail was sent from Canada! AS I used this macro: ACM macro snipped AS What went wrong here? ACM In the macro you included, " On %ODateen..". This macro generates the ACM original day the message was sent corrected to your time zone corrected. ACM If you wish to include the day the message was sent, uncorrected to your ACM time zone, you need to take it from the message headers. ACM Replace %ODATEEN with %SUBPATT="2". I have done so, but now I get "on Tuesday, April 03, 2001 at 18:34:57 GMT -0700 (PDT) (which was Mon, 2 Apr 2001 03:34 where I live)" which makes it even wronger, because it should have been April 4! Take care, Andreas -- My ICQ#: 23060752 My homepage: www.andreas-schwartmann.de Message created with The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1. "Idiot wind, blowing every time you move your teeth. You're an idiot, babe. It's a wonder that you still know how to breathe." - Bob Dylan -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another time macro mistake!
On Sat, 7 Apr 2001 at 16:06:28 +0200 Andreas Schwartmann wrote: ACM In the macro you included, " On %ODateen..". This macro ACM Replace %ODATEEN with %SUBPATT="2". I have done so, but now I get I guess you replaced the wrong "%ODATEEN" in your macro. There were two in the macro you gave us, and as Allie said, the one that should be replaced is the first one (see how Allie put it? He told you to replace the one in "On %ODateen..", not the one in "which was %ODATEEN"). You didn't include the header (the "Date" field in the header) in your original message, but I believe its original date is 2 April, which translate into 3 April when using the %ODateEn macro. IOW, the correct outcome should be: "on Tuesday, 2 Apr 2001 at 18:34:57 GMT -0700 (PDT) (which was Mon, April 03, 2001 03:34 where I live)" If you still have trouble getting it right, please post the header of the original message. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/3 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Another time macro mistake!
Hi, Bat folks, on Sat, 7 Apr 2001 at 08:18:35 GMT -0700 (which was Saturday, April 07, 2001 17:18 where I live) Ming-Li wrote the following lines regarding "Another time macro mistake!": ML If you still have trouble getting it right, please post the header ML of the original message. Thanks, now I guess I got it right. :-) Take care, Andreas -- My ICQ#: 23060752 My homepage: www.andreas-schwartmann.de Message created with The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1. "Standing on the gallows with my head in a noose. Any minute now I'm expecting all hell to break loose." - Bob Dylan -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another time macro mistake!
On Sat, 7 Apr 2001 at 17:56:59 +0200 Andreas Schwartmann wrote:
Thanks, now I guess I got it right. :-)
Good to hear that. Two side notes I forgot to mention:
1. You may want to add a caret sign ("^") between "(?m-s)" and
"Date" at the start of the %SETPATTREGEXP macro expression, like
this
%Wrapped='%SETPATTREGEXP="(?m-s)^Date\:\s*?
which would match only header field that starts with "Date". The
original macro would match a field like "Delivery-date", which
rarely appears (I've never seen one until someone reported it on the
list) but does exist.
2. As you can see, The "EN" part of the %ODateEN macro (the one for
"where I live") asks TB to show the original date (adjusted to your
local time zone) in the "day-of-week, month day, year" format
commonly used in the U.S. (and where?). If you prefer the
"day-of-week, day month year" format commonly used in Europe (I
assume you would since you're in Germany), use %ODate instead, in
which case TB would use your Windows system settings.
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Re[2]: Another time macro mistake!
Hi, Bat folks, on Sat, 7 Apr 2001 at 10:12:10 GMT -0700 (which was Saturday, April 07, 2001 19:12 where I live) Ming-Li wrote the following lines regarding "Another time macro mistake!": ML 2. As you can see, The "EN" part of the %ODateEN macro (the one for ML "where I live") asks TB to show the original date (adjusted to your ML local time zone) in the "day-of-week, month day, year" format ML commonly used in the U.S. (and where?). If you prefer the ML "day-of-week, day month year" format commonly used in Europe (I ML assume you would since you're in Germany), use %ODate instead, in ML which case TB would use your Windows system settings. Thanks for your kind help! As to the %ODate macro: I rather use the english one, because otherwise the day gets pinned down in German. I gather you'd rather like to read "Wednesday" than "Mittwoch". Right? ;-) Take care, Andreas -- My ICQ#: 23060752 My homepage: www.andreas-schwartmann.de Message created with The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1. "Those of us who spent time in the agricultural sector and in the heartland, we understand how unfair the death penalty is." - George W. Bush -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
