Re: Bat! taking 100% resources
Hi Allie, On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, at 22:53:50 [GMT-0500] (which was Wed, 13:53:50 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: Have you checked your temp folders for temp file overload? Where are these located? Do you mean the normal Windoze type Temp folders, or is there somewhere special in Bat!? Had a look for these, could find nothing untoward, but at one time Bat! was leaving temp folders on my desktop, which I deleted. .. Correction, just did a File Find, millions of the pesky little things, literally speaking of course. 65,771 actually! Presuming they can be safely deleted! Here goes, anyway! Is this a (known) Bat! bug at all? -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Please weight... Spell Checker at work. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat! taking 100% resources
Hi All, On Wed, 21 Jul 2004, at 19:34:02 [GMT+1000] (which was 19:34:02 Australian Eastern Time) I wrote: Correction, just did a File Find, millions of the pesky little things, literally speaking of course. 65,771 actually! Presuming they can be safely deleted! Here goes, anyway! Help! Mass selection (Ctrl A) then deletion overwhelms Windoze, and it locks up. Can some kind person run me through an automated way to get rid of the files? (Highly technically challenged at times, looks like the ability to write a batch file is missing in XP???) They are located in directory C:\Documents and Settings\JP\Local Settings\Temp T.I.A. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 A person with two watches is never sure what time it is. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat! taking 100% resources
Hi All On Wed, 21 Jul 2004, at 19:58:34 [GMT+1000] (which was 19:58:34 Australian Eastern Time) I wrote: Can some kind person run me through an automated way to get rid of the files? (Highly technically challenged at times, looks like the ability to write a batch file is missing in XP???) Please ignore. Now deleted. Still interested why so many created, and if this improves performance. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 KEYBOARD: Instrument used to enter ERRORS into a Computer Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
superfluous temp files (was: Re: Bat! taking 100% resources)
Hallo John, On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:25:14 +1000GMT (21-7-2004, 12:25 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JP Still interested why so many created, and if this improves performance. TB creates temp files when downloading messages on extracting attached files and probably on some more occasions. These files ought to be deleted on program termination. When they're not deleted that's because of TB's not proper terminating. That can have various causes: faulty installation, instable plug-in, forced close down because of the CC not ending properly (mostly due to sync problems because buggy proxies or internet connection), emergency shutdown of the pc, lots of other reasons. When you've got an overload of temp files, TB has problems with creating more, thus causing problems with downloading mail and 100% cpu usage (as you experienced). In other words lots of temp files from TB is symptomatic for a range of problems, but the symptoms cause their own problem. Now you've deleted all of them, just check whether there are bat*.tmp files in your temp directory again. If so check for other problems and regularly check on your temp files and delete them. And look for the problem that causes them. (Plug-ins, proxies, etc) -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: superfluous temp files (was: Re: Bat! taking 100% resources)
Hi Roelof, On Wed, 21 Jul 2004, at 13:01:23 [GMT+0200] (which was 21:01:23 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: In other words lots of temp files from TB is symptomatic for a range of problems, but the symptoms cause their own problem. Now you've deleted all of them, just check whether there are bat*.tmp files in your temp directory again. If so check for other problems and regularly check on your temp files and delete them. And look for the problem that causes them. (Plug-ins, proxies, etc) Thanks for the explanation! -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 It's Ensign Polo. He's thread, Jim! Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: superfluous temp files (was: Re: Bat! taking 100% resources)
John Phillips, [JP] wrote: Thanks for the explanation! If you wish to automate regular emptying of your temp folders, take a look at this freeware solution: http://www.danish-shareware.dk/soft/emptemp/index.html -- -=[ Allie Martin ]=- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com pgpmr88xaJB1H.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat! taking 100% resources
John Phillips said: That's strange. I have used Mozilla and PC-Cillin for over a year and a half and have *never* experienced *any* of the issues you describe. I am also using BayesIt too, but still no recreation of your issues. http://tinyurl.com/4cmwq Oh I see, you're using PC-Cillin 2002? You do realise that version is now two versions old don't you? Still, having used 2002, 2003 and now Trend Micro Internet Security, I have still never experienced the issues you described. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: superfluous temp files (was: Re: Bat! taking 100% resources)
Hi Allie, On Wed, 21 Jul 2004, at 07:41:24 [GMT-0500] (which was 22:41:24 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: If you wish to automate regular emptying of your temp folders, take a look at this freeware solution: http://www.danish-shareware.dk/soft/emptemp/index.html Thanks for the URL. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 A problem can be found for almost every solution. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bat! taking 100% resources
Hi Bat! Fans, As the subject says. Because of this can't download mail without Bat! crashing. This problem just started. Any clues at all? T.I.A. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 They told me I was gullible, and I believed them. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat! taking 100% resources
John Phillips, [JP] wrote: Any clues at all? A plugin or proxy interfering? A temp file overload. These are the more likely culprits. -- -=[ Allie Martin ]=- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com pgpbIeilKR7Xg.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat! taking 100% resources
On 7/20/04, at 10:45 AM, Julian Beach (Lists) sent the following: Julian On Tuesday, July 20, 2004, 1:57:33 PM, John Phillips wrote: Because of this can't download mail without Bat! crashing. SNIP Julian One of the common causes of problems with 100% resource usage is Julian BayesIT. If you are using it, try disabling it and see if that makes Julian a difference. Sometimes you will have to remove it from your system Julian to get rid of the effects. SNIP That was the cause of my problem. BayesIT had created 95 meg of temp files, you can delete BayesIT altogether (which is what I did) or rename it to NoBayesIT or anything you want. -- Another time, another day Jimmie :usflag: Nothing is permanent except change. Using The Bat! 2.12.00 under w/ BayesIt! 0.5.4 Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium 133 with 128MB. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat! taking 100% resources
Hi Julian, On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, at 15:00:37 [GMT+0100] (which was Wed, 0:00:37 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: It you have a search in the archive, you will find similar threads covering solutions in more detail. I hope you find a solution. Thanks. I disabled that quite a while ago, when I found it to be ineffective, and installed Spam Pal. Running Mozilla Trend Micro PcCillin, a search of their FAQ revealed that this can cause 100% utilisation and there is a download, but unfortunately still slow. Unloaded Trend Micro back to AVG, but again not much better, but a slight improvement. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 ERROR 406: file corrupt: config.earth -- reboot universe? (Y/N) Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat! taking 100% resources
John Phillips said: Running Mozilla Trend Micro PcCillin, a search of their FAQ revealed that this can cause 100% utilisation and there is a download, but unfortunately still slow. Unloaded Trend Micro back to AVG, but again not much better, but a slight improvement. That's strange. I have used Mozilla and PC-Cillin for over a year and a half and have *never* experienced *any* of the issues you describe. I am also using BayesIt too, but still no recreation of your issues. -- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat! taking 100% resources
John Phillips, [JP] wrote: Unloaded Trend Micro back to AVG, but again not much better, but a slight improvement. Have you checked your temp folders for temp file overload? -- -=[ Allie Martin ]=- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com pgpzaVAts0hYc.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
