Bayes anti-spam plug-in
Where do I find the Bayes anti-spam plug in for TheBat? Can I trust the version that I found (via Google) at Achims Winkler: http://www.lkcc.org:8500/download.php Thanks. -- Leonard S. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat 3.99.3 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayes anti-spam plug-in
Hi Leonard, Thursday, April 26, 2007, 4:14:50 PM, you wrote: Where do I find the Bayes anti-spam plug in for TheBat? Can I trust the version that I found (via Google) at Achims Winkler: So it's not part of the download for your version? I had assumed it was. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.98.4 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayes anti-spam plug-in
Hallo Leonard, On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:14:50 -0400GMT (26-4-2007, 17:14 +0200, where I live), you wrote: LSB Where do I find the Bayes anti-spam plug in for TheBat? http://www.thebatworld.de/modules/download/index.php?op=MostPopular LSB Can I trust the version that I found (via Google) at Achims LSB Winkler: Achim Winkler's plug-in is BayesFilter, that's not the BayesIt filter that used to be included with TB. BayesIt was removed from the TB package, because it caused some configs to hang. Ritlabs has a number of plugins available at: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/plugin.php Though neither BayesIt or Bayesfilter are mentioned there. LSB -- Your cutsign is not quite up to parr. -- Groetjes, Roelof Uh, yeah...I MEANT to do that! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.99.3 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 2 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpBhwEtVWffs.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Bayes anti-spam plug-in
On Thursday, April 26, 2007, at 1:38:09 PM, you wrote: Achim Winkler's plug-in is BayesFilter, that's not the BayesIt filter that used to be included with TB. BayesIt was removed from the TB package, because it caused some configs to hang. Ritlabs has a number of plugins available at: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/plugin.php Though neither BayesIt or Bayesfilter are mentioned there. Roelof, So what do you recommend that I use. Listed below are what I found on the RIT-Labs site for which you provided the URL. AntispamSniper for The Bat! v2.0.0.4 Free 28-03-2007 AntispamSniper for The Bat! v2.0.0.428-11-2007 Agava Antispam Servant v2.1.6 08-11-2006 Regula Antispam Plugin v2.2.6 14-02-2007 LSB -- Your cutsign is not quite up to parr. I've changed it numerous times in response to criticism on this list. What's wrong now? -- Leonard Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat, version 3.99.3 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayes anti-spam plug-in
Hello Leonard, On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] LSB Agava Antispam Servant v2.1.6 Terrific programme. Easy to set up and highly efficient. Any problems and the author answers within a day in the forums. LSB I've changed it numerous times in response to criticism on this list. LSB What's wrong now? LSB -- Should be DASH DASH then SPACE followed by RETURN -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.99.3 with POP3 account AntispamSniper 2.0.0.4 | Windows XP (build 2600) version 5.1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot | CPU: Athlon 1.09 Ghz | RAM: 1024 MB Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayes anti-spam plug-in
Hello Leonard, Thursday, April 26, 2007, 11:11:10 AM, you wrote: LSB So what do you recommend that I use. Bayes Filter is working well for me. -- Best regards, Scottmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.95.6 under Windows XP Professional/5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 (2 days 3:1:19) on Uno AMD Athlon MP pgp key: http://sfrederick.com/keys/ Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayes anti-spam plug-in
Hello Roelof, BayesIt was removed from the TB package, because it caused some configs to hang. Ritlabs has a number of plugins available at: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/plugin.php Though neither BayesIt or Bayesfilter are mentioned there. I have never used any of the spam plugins and so I never paid much attention to them. But, if what you say about BayesIt is true, then Ritlabs should pay more attention to what they do and write. Today I received their newsletter announcing the release of 3.99 and it includes this paragraph: ,- [ ] | Besides antivirus protection, The Bat! renders integrated antispam | shield. BayesIt!, one of the most reliable mechanisms of fighting | against unsolicited email messages, is enabled by default in The Bat!, | sieving spam and letting only solicited mail into your inbox. `- -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.99.3 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayes anti-spam plug-in
Hallo Miguel, On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:27:34 +0200GMT (26-4-2007, 20:27 +0200, where I live), you wrote: M I have never used any of the spam plugins and so I never paid much M attention to them. But, if what you say about BayesIt is true, then M Ritlabs should pay more attention to what they do and write. Well, that's life. Everybody is making mistakes, I'm no exception, so why should Ritlabs be. :-) -- Groetjes, Roelof 4 aces beats full house. Smith Wesson beats 4 aces. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.99.3 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 2 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpi0Iyi2KIZ5.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Bayes anti-spam plug-in
Miguel, on Thursday, April 26, 2007, at 2:27:34 PM, you wrote: Hello Roelof, BayesIt was removed from the TB package, because it caused some configs to hang. Ritlabs has a number of plugins available at: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/plugin.php Though neither BayesIt or Bayesfilter are mentioned there. I have never used any of the spam plugins and so I never paid much attention to them. But, if what you say about BayesIt is true, then Ritlabs should pay more attention to what they do and write. Today I received their newsletter announcing the release of 3.99 and it includes this paragraph: ,- [ ] | Besides antivirus protection, The Bat! renders integrated antispam | shield. BayesIt!, one of the most reliable mechanisms of fighting | against unsolicited email messages, is enabled by default in The Bat!, | sieving spam and letting only solicited mail into your inbox. `- Now that you mention this, I see that there is a BayesIT directory under the TheBat directory. It was created on August 31, 2005, probably when I installed an earlier version of TheBat, and then it was modified in March of this year, apparently when I installed home_3.98-1. Now, it is empty. I did install 3.99-3 earlier today, and that may have emptied the directory. -- Leonard Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat, version 3.99.3 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayes anti-spam plug-in
Hello Leonard, I have used the baysit and the Agava and I think that the latter is smarter. I like it. rod Thursday, April 26, 2007, 3:14:50 PM, you wrote: Where do I find the Bayes anti-spam plug in for TheBat? Can I trust the version that I found (via Google) at Achims Winkler: http://www.lkcc.org:8500/download.php Thanks. -- Leonard S. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat 3.99.3 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Bayes anti-spam plug-in
Rod, on Thursday, April 26, 2007, at 2:47:38 PM, you wrote: Hello Leonard, I have used the baysit and the Agava and I think that the latter is smarter. I like it. rod Many thanks. -- Leonard S. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat, version 3.99.3 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Top posting (was: Bayes anti-spam plug-in)
Hallo Angel, On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:47:38 +GMT (26-4-2007, 20:47, where I live), you wrote: AR rod AR Thursday, April 26, 2007, 3:14:50 PM, you wrote: moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Angel. ' This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message and b) It encourages excessive quoting. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one part of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof Never anger a moderator, for thou art crunchy and go well with brie... pgpCP43IdcCKT.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayes anti-spam plug-in
Reply to message sent 04/26/2007, @ 14:11:10 (1:11 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Leonard, So what do you recommend that I use. While I am not Roelof, let me offer this for thought: If you think you might ever want to use Voyager you will want a program that can run on a USB stick. AntiSpamSniper does that, which is what pushed me in that direction. So far, no complaints. -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB! Voyager 3.99.3] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Bayes anti-spam plug-in
LSB So what do you recommend that I use. Listed below are what I LSB found on the RIT-Labs site for which you provided the URL. LSB AntispamSniper for The Bat! v2.0.0.4 Free 28-03-2007 LSB AntispamSniper for The Bat! v2.0.0.428-11-2007 LSB Agava Antispam Servant v2.1.6 08-11-2006 LSB Regula Antispam Plugin v2.2.6 14-02-2007 I have been using the free version of AntispamSniper for a couple months now and I like it a lot. It has been running at 98.8% accuracy after a two-week training period. -- Code 2 :canadaflag: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! version 2.12.00 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 At A Laundry Shop: How about we refund your money, send you a new one at no charge, close the store and have the manager shot. Would that be satisfactory? Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Bayes anti-spam plug-in
Code 2, on Thursday, April 26, 2007, at 3:00:26 PM, you wrote: I have been using the free version of AntispamSniper for a couple months now and I like it a lot. It has been running at 98.8% accuracy after a two-week training period. On what basis did you select it? Have you tried other add-ins? Leonard -- Leonard S. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat, version 3.99.3 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Bayes anti-spam plug-in)
Hello Roelof, Thanks and no offense taken. Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Angel. Angel Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: Bayes anti-spam plug-in
I have been using the free version of AntispamSniper for a couple months now and I like it a lot. It has been running at 98.8% accuracy after a two-week training period. LSB On what basis did you select it? Have you tried other add-ins? I didn't try Agava Antispam Servant, but I have tried BayesIt, K9 and SpamPal. SpamPal was nearly 100% accurate for a long, long time, but started missing a large proportion of the HTML stock tip spam. I've never had a false positive with SpamPal. It's a nice set-it-and-forget-it spam filter. K9 was okay, but it seemed to need constant training (at least it did for the type of spam I get). It also gave a lot of false positives, so I had to monitor my spam folder regularly. I never understood why, but I was getting about 10% accuracy with BayesIt despite training it with hundreds of spam and non-spam messages. I was frustrated, so I dumped it. As you can see, my criteria for a good spam filter are accuracy, no false positives, and ease of training. Free is nice, too :) -- Code 2 :canadaflag: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! version 2.12.00 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Majorcan shop entrance: English well talking. Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[6]: Bayes anti-spam plug-in
Code 2, on Thursday, April 26, 2007, at 4:44:07 PM, you wrote: I didn't try Agava Antispam Servant, but I have tried BayesIt, K9 and SpamPal. SpamPal was nearly 100% accurate for a long, long time, but started missing a large proportion of the HTML stock tip spam. I've never had a false positive with SpamPal. It's a nice set-it-and-forget-it spam filter. K9 was okay, but it seemed to need constant training (at least it did for the type of spam I get). It also gave a lot of false positives, so I had to monitor my spam folder regularly. I never understood why, but I was getting about 10% accuracy with BayesIt despite training it with hundreds of spam and non-spam messages. I was frustrated, so I dumped it. As you can see, my criteria for a good spam filter are accuracy, no false positives, and ease of training. Free is nice, too :) Thanks. You have saved me a lot of time, and, probably, frustration. Leonard -- Leonard S. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat, version 3.99.3 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
