Changing both sender replyto

2002-01-05 Thread AO

Hi tbudl,

I have joined a row of mailinglists with a forwarding
mailaccount in order to seperate my personal mail from the
one used on mailinglists (not this one, though :-) I have
my own mailserver so this is no problem

I would therefore like to know if it is possible to use
quicktemplates or something to make up different profiles
for sending from the same adress.

Therefore i must change both sender  replyto in the
outgoing mail. Can it be done?

Regards
Anders


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Re: Changing both sender replyto

2002-01-05 Thread David Elliott

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Hello AO

On 05 January 2002 at 11:24:59 +0100 (which was 10:24 where I live) AO wrote

A I would therefore like to know if it is possible to use quicktemplates or
A something to make up different profiles for sending from the same adress.

Yes

A Therefore i must change both sender  replyto in the outgoing mail. Can
A it be done?

I have a Quick Template [QT] called siglst. In it is the following

%FROM=
%FROM=David Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
%REPLYTO=
%REPLYTO=David Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This QT is called from my address book templates so I don't even have to
worry about calling it for most of my lists.

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Re: Changing both sender replyto

2002-01-05 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi AO,

On 05 January 2002 at 11:24:59 [GMT+0100] (which was 10:24 where I
live) AO wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points:

A Therefore i must change both sender  replyto in the outgoing mail.
A Can it be done?

Yes, quite easily:

%FROM=AO [EMAIL PROTECTED]%-
%REPLYTO=AO [EMAIL PROTECTED]%-
%RETURNPATH=AO [EMAIL PROTECTED]%-

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Re: Changing both sender replyto

2002-01-05 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi David,

On 05 January 2002 at 10:38:49 David Elliott wrote to AO on TBUDL and
made these points:

 I have a Quick Template [QT] called siglst. In it is the following

 %FROM=
 %FROM=David Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 %REPLYTO=
 %REPLYTO=David Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You don't actually have to clear these fields before setting them -
they're non-cumulative. Or was this necessary because of a (now fixed)
problem where TB would not accept the settings when there was already
a value in the field?

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Re[2]: Changing both sender replyto

2002-01-05 Thread AO

Hi David

Thank you for the reply...

Den 5. januar 2002 kl. 11:38 skrev du
D This QT is called from my address book templates so I don't even have to
D worry about calling it for most of my lists.

Sounds very smart, but i don't know about AB-templates. Could you
explain a little how you use it?

Regards
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Re: Changing both sender replyto

2002-01-05 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello AO,

On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:24:59 +0100GMT (5-1-02, 11:24 +0100GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

A I have joined a row of mailinglists with a forwarding
A mailaccount in order to seperate my personal mail from the
A one used on mailinglists (not this one, though :-) I have
A my own mailserver so this is no problem

A I would therefore like to know if it is possible to use
A quicktemplates or something to make up different profiles
A for sending from the same adress.

Create a separate folder for every list (improves readability too) and
set in the folder properties for every folder the appropriate identity
that doesn't have to be an identity from one of your accounts.
You've also got to create a filter to every list to put it into the
right folder.

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Re: Changing both sender replyto

2002-01-05 Thread Ottar Grimstad

Hello Roelof,

Saturday, January 05, 2002, 12:59:59 PM, you wrote to TBUDL:

RO Create a separate folder for every list (improves readability too) and
RO set in the folder properties for every folder the appropriate identity
RO that doesn't have to be an identity from one of your accounts.
RO You've also got to create a filter to every list to put it into the
RO right folder.

There is some danger in using folder templates. You may inadvertently
direct private mail to the whole list. I prefer making address book
entrys for every list I participate in. In properties for the address
book entry you may specify seperate message template and reply
templates for that list, and can include the necessary %FROM %TO and
%REPLYTO macros in these templates.
  

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Re[2]: Changing both sender replyto

2002-01-05 Thread David Elliott

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Dear Marck

On 05 January 2002 at 10:52:52 + (which was 10:52 where I live) Marck D
Pearlstone thoughtfully wrote the following

 %FROM=
 %FROM=David Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 %REPLYTO=
 %REPLYTO=David Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED]

MDP You don't actually have to clear these fields before setting them -
MDP they're non-cumulative. Or was this necessary because of a (now fixed)
MDP problem where TB would not accept the settings when there was already
MDP a value in the field?

I did have a problem at one time this fixed it, and I have never got around
to changing it back. (If it works don't fix it!)

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Re: Changing both sender replyto

2002-01-05 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello Ottar,

On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 13:09:15 +0100GMT (5-1-02, 13:09 +0100GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

RO Create a separate folder for every list (improves readability too) and
RO set in the folder properties for every folder the appropriate identity

OG There is some danger in using folder templates.

I know, but read carefully what I wrote g. I talked about folder
*identities* and not folder *templates*

OG You may inadvertently direct private mail to the whole list.

Besides folder templates are only dangerous when you're using a macro
to insert a To-address.

OG I prefer making address book entrys for every list I participate
OG in.

That depends on the goal you want to achieve. When I'm off list
corresponding with somebody on this list about a message here, I'm
still using my list-address. Just to protect my privacy.
I'm doing that for every public list. So that once an address of mine
gets spammed I know what's the source (and take appropriate measures)

OG In properties for the address book entry you may specify seperate
OG message template and reply templates for that list, and can
OG include the necessary %FROM %TO and %REPLYTO macros in these
OG templates.
  
In my opinion the %To macro isn't the fitting one to be used in an
address book template. g,dr

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Re[3]: Changing both sender replyto

2002-01-05 Thread David Elliott

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Hello AO

On 05 January 2002 at 12:10:55 +0100 (which was 11:10 where I live) AO might
have written

D This QT is called from my address book templates so I don't even have to
D worry about calling it for most of my lists.

A Sounds very smart, but i don't know about AB-templates. Could you
A explain a little how you use it?

In your address book create a group for your lists. In that group put all
your list that you want to use your alternate name/address.

When you click onto properties of this group you will see some tabs for new
message, Reply's and Forward. You can then specify to use these group
templates in place of the account templates.

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Re[4]: Changing both sender replyto

2002-01-05 Thread AO

Hi David

It works...!  Thank you very much  :-)


Regards
Anders


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Re: Changing both sender replyto

2002-01-05 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi AO,

On 05 January 2002 at 12:10:55 [GMT+0100] (which was 11:10 where I
live) AO wrote to David Elliott and made these points:

D This QT is called from my address book templates so I don't even have to
D worry about calling it for most of my lists.

A Sounds very smart, but i don't know about AB-templates. Could you
A explain a little how you use it?

If you don't know about AB templates that means you are using Folder
templates. *Beware*.

I recommend the FAQ tutorials on these subjects:

http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/templates.html
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/samples.html

The main thing about AB templates is that they are triggered when the
recipient address matches as opposed to which folder just happened to
be selected when you started your message. It's much more accurate.

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Re: Changing both sender replyto

2002-01-05 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Ottar,

On 05 January 2002 at 13:09:15 [GMT+0100] (which was 12:09 where I
live) Ottar Grimstad wrote to Roelof Otten and made these points:

OG There is some danger in using folder templates. You may
OG inadvertently direct private mail to the whole list.

Quite right!

OG I prefer making address book entrys for every list I participate
OG in. In properties for the address book entry you may specify
OG seperate message template and reply templates for that list, and
OG can include the necessary %FROM %TO and %REPLYTO macros in these
OG templates.

Better yet, I have a Lists AB group with generic templates and some
very useful macros to ensure that addressing and presentation is how
it should be. A couple of the lists (esp. the TB lists where I am a
moderator) have custom templates to change my signature. Other lists
don't quite manage to set Reply-To, so these *do* need folder
templates :-(((.

Anyway, here's what I use, in case anyone's interested:

,- [ Lists Group reply template ]
| %QINCLUDE=TMIntro%CURSOR%-
| %QUOTESTYLE=none%-
| %QINCLUDE=Req%-
| %QINCLUDE=LISTTO
| --
| %QINCLUDE=soft
`-

TMINTRO is the old ... where I live ..  macro with a twist - it
has added intelligence not to say that when replying to someone from
my own timezone.

Req is the RegEx Quoter which strips PGP sigs and adverts.

LISTTO is the name forming macro

,- [ LISTTO ]
| %TO=%TO='%OFROMNAME on %ABoreplyHANDLE=''%ABoreplyNAME'' %OREPLYADDR'
`-

Where a list has too long a name, I put an abbreviation in the AB
Handle field.

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Re: Changing both sender replyto

2002-01-05 Thread Ottar Grimstad

Hello Marck,

5 Jan 2002, 13:30:34, you wrote to TBUDL:

MDP Better yet, I have a Lists AB group with generic templates and
MDP some very useful macros to ensure that addressing and
MDP presentation is how it should be.

  I am only member of two lists, this and a norwegian, and for
  language reasons it is not practical to share templates. But how do
  you cope with many lists in addition to work and music? Keeping up
  with TBUDL seems a handful in itself, and as a moderator you read
  and evaluate all messages?

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Re: Changing both sender replyto

2002-01-05 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Ottar,

On 05 January 2002 at 15:40:11 [GMT+0100] (which was 14:40 where I
live) Ottar Grimstad wrote to Marck D Pearlstone and made these
points:

MDP Better yet, I have a Lists AB group with generic templates and
MDP some very useful macros to ensure that addressing and
MDP presentation is how it should be.

   I am only member of two lists, this and a norwegian, and for
   language reasons it is not practical to share templates. But how
   do you cope with many lists in addition to work and music? Keeping
   up with TBUDL seems a handful in itself, and as a moderator you
   read and evaluate all messages?

A man's gotta do  g. Mostly I skim, keeping an eye for where I
can help out or where I need to jump in.

To be honest, it's the drama stuff that's overloading me right now.

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Re: Changing both sender replyto

2002-01-05 Thread Thomas F

Hello Ottar,

On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 15:40:11 +0100 GMT (05/01/2002, 22:40 +0800 GMT),
Ottar Grimstad wrote:

OG I am only member of two lists, this and a norwegian, and for
OG language reasons it is not practical to share templates.

Oh, I use my English-language templates and my mixed English/German
cookies across lists of all languages. g

OG But how do you cope with many lists in addition to work and music?

Set your priorities right and cut down on the work. ;-)

You may have seen that Marck is an emailaholic. Any one of us who
reads less than 300 emails a day suffers from withdrawal. Apparently,
you prefer to have a life instead...

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OT: EMailoholic (was: Changing both sender replyto)

2002-01-05 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Thomas,

On 5 Jan 2002 at 16:02:36 you wrote (at least in part):

TF Any one of us who reads less than 300 emails a day suffers from
TF withdrawal. Apparently, you prefer to have a life instead...

Full-ACK.

My girlfriends prefers I have a life instead ... *GGG*
But I still can withstand her wishes, anathemas and curses *LoL*
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Re: Changing both sender replyto -- interested in the PGP reference

2002-01-05 Thread ETM

I am a new user.  What is this PGP business that is so noticeable in the
below message?  Is it deliberately invoked?

Elaine

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To: AO on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 5:38 AM
Subject: Re: Changing both sender  replyto


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