Re: Tardis is A-OK(was(Re: Re: Clocks, oh look at those clocks (was: Re: Replies arrive before originals))

2000-08-15 Thread Arno van Stralen

Hi Patrick,

Monday, August 14, 2000, 11:50:35 PM, you wrote:

 With this discusson about time keeping I use Tardis
 http://www.kaska.demon.co.uk to keep my clocks up to date.

Patrick  Truly a useful application.  Have been using various versions for several 
years.

I will give it a try then. I tried Dimension 4 as mentioned by another
list member, but for some particular reason it won't work. Probably
this is caused by my ISP which is blocking almost every communication
other than regular site-visiting. Thanks for the tip!

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Re[2]: Clocks, oh look at those clocks (was: Re: Replies arrive before originals)

2000-08-15 Thread Marc

Hello Januk,

Tuesday, August 15, 2000, 1:38:31 am, you wrote:

   It might just be that he needs a new battery.

JA  If it were that, wouldn't shutting off my computer reset the clock
JA  every time?  (This doesn't happen.)  I don't see any pattern, so I
JA  think it might be some obscure app or Windows feature that is
JA  occasionally messing up my clock.

No. It would not. Replace the battery and see if that does it. If it
does not go to the usenet news forums and post a Q at:

 microsoft.public.win98.power_mgmt
 microsoft.public.win98.shell


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Re: Clocks, oh look at those clocks (was: Re: Replies arrive before originals)

2000-08-15 Thread tracer

Hello Marc,
On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 11:29:34 -0400 GMT your local time,
which was Tuesday, August 15, 2000, 10:29:34 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Marc wrote:


 Hello Januk,

 Tuesday, August 15, 2000, 1:38:31 am, you wrote:

   It might just be that he needs a new battery.

JA  If it were that, wouldn't shutting off my computer reset the clock
JA  every time?  (This doesn't happen.)  I don't see any pattern, so I
JA  think it might be some obscure app or Windows feature that is
JA  occasionally messing up my clock.

 No. It would not. Replace the battery and see if that does it. If it
 does not go to the usenet news forums and post a Q at:

there are motherboards where the battery isnt used for the clock.
Clock can sit in a special chip made (amongst others) by a company
called Dallas  (forgot the rest of the name).
Anyway you can depending on motherboard have the situation that the
board remembers the bios settings but if the clock chip or its build
in battery (if thats what you have) arent working properly...
I used a utility in the past which would warn me if the time/date went
backwards as its quite painful to run system utilities with the wrong
date and also some programs may stop running if they thing you mess
with the clock.
Anyway, do you know exact type / brand of the motherboard?

It can be that chip with its long life build in battery having a
problem OR of the board is still under waranty  I would try to get a
replacement/proper working board.
Under most circumstances this kind of odd behaviour would be a
hardware problem.


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Re: Clocks, oh look at those clocks (was: Re: Replies arrive before originals)

2000-08-14 Thread Tony Boom

This message: 14/08/2000 12:00 GMT.
Hello Thomas,

On 14 August 2000 at 12:02:22 GMT +0800 (which was 05:02 where I live)
Thomas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) typed:

TF I would think there is either something wrong with your oscillator
TF (built on a Monday?), or with the software that translates the info
TF into a human-readable "clock" which advances by "seconds"


  It might just be that he needs a new battery.


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Tardis is A-OK(was(Re: Re: Clocks, oh look at those clocks (was: Re: Replies arrive before originals))

2000-08-14 Thread Patrick L .

Hi, Cricket,

At 08/13/2000 21:28:00 you wrote:

 With this discusson about time keeping I use Tardis
 http://www.kaska.demon.co.uk to keep my clocks up to date.

 Truly a useful application.  Have been using various versions for several years.

Regards,
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Re: Clocks, oh look at those clocks (was: Re: Replies arrive before originals)

2000-08-14 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Tony,


On  Monday, August 14, 2000  at  12:01:31 GMT +0100 (which was 4:01 AM
where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:


   It might just be that he needs a new battery.

 If it were that, wouldn't shutting off my computer reset the clock
 every time?  (This doesn't happen.)  I don't see any pattern, so I
 think it might be some obscure app or Windows feature that is
 occasionally messing up my clock.

 It isn't a big deal, sometimes a bit annoying for other people.


 

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Clocks, oh look at those clocks (was: Re: Replies arrive before originals)

2000-08-13 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Thomas,


On  Sunday, August 13, 2000  at  20:24:27 GMT +0800 (which was 5:24 AM
where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:

 Geez, if a PC clock is so far off real time, I think someone needs to
 invent a new oszillator! ;-)

 I don't know exactly how my PC clock works, but mine stinks.  It adds
 and subtracts hours at a time.  There doesn't seem to be a pattern.
 I think some of the time issues are OS and running apps related.
 This is surprising, since I thought all clock functions were handled
 by a separate chip on the mother board.  Why processor load should
 affect the clock is beyond me.  Oh well.

  I synchronise about once a week.

 I synchronize when my watch says 12:30 and my PC clock says 2:30.
 I should look at my watch more.

 he just hasn't figured out yet how to set the time on his PC.
 Doesn't anybody know a newsgroup we can recommend him for that?

 Or a web forum?

 (I'll duck for the trouts,

 I'll duck too, but just to be sure, when is duck hunting season?

 which will be coming from four directions on three continents now. I
 say, "save the trouts!")

 Spare the trout, spoil the salmon.

 

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Re: Clocks, oh look at those clocks (was: Re: Replies arrive before originals)

2000-08-13 Thread Cricket

Howdy folks:

 With this discusson about time keeping I use Tardis
 http://www.kaska.demon.co.uk to keep my clocks up to date.

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Re: Clocks, oh look at those clocks (was: Re: Replies arrive before originals)

2000-08-13 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hi Januk,

On Sun, 13 Aug 2000 17:57:00 -0700GMT (14/08/2000, 08:57 +0800GMT),
Januk Aggarwal wrote:

 Geez, if a PC clock is so far off real time, I think someone needs to
 invent a new oszillator! ;-)

JA  I don't know exactly how my PC clock works, but mine stinks.  It adds
JA  and subtracts hours at a time.  There doesn't seem to be a pattern.

This is the first time I here such a thing. I agree, that sucks.

JA  I think some of the time issues are OS and running apps related.
JA  This is surprising, since I thought all clock functions were handled
JA  by a separate chip on the mother board.

A seperate chip, or on the same chip, I don't know that, it's the
chipmaker's design. But it is seperate from the processor; it'
s called the oscillator and it oscillates (swings) with a certain
frequency. I believe they use certain crystals for that, because
crystals tend to oscillate with constant frequencies due to their
physical properties. This frequency is then fed into the processor,
often divided by a factor first, and is called something which I
cannot remember. The idea is to have the processor process the
processes, or their steps, in a fixed rythm, for ovious reasons.

JA Why processor load should affect the clock is beyond me. Oh well.

It wouldn't acutally make any sense. High processor load just means
that there are many processes which wait in the queue until it's thier
turn. That's why apps seem to run slower. The processor itself always
works with the same speed. And it doesn't give any feedback to the
oscillator, that's a one-way street.

I would think there is either something wrong with your oscillator
(built on a Monday?), or with the software that translates the info
into a human-readable "clock" which advances by "seconds".

 he just hasn't figured out yet how to set the time on his PC.
 Doesn't anybody know a newsgroup we can recommend him for that?

JA  Or a web forum?

LOL!!

 (I'll duck for the trouts,

JA  I'll duck too, but just to be sure, when is duck hunting season?

In Peking, the year round, I'd guess. You ever tried Peking Duck?
Excellent.

 which will be coming from four directions on three continents now. I
 say, "save the trouts!")

JA  Spare the trout, spoil the salmon.

Again, all I can think of is food: your line just reminds of a good
salmon sushi.  - Oh, it's lunch break. I'll be back later! ;-)

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