Re: Does the International pack have a UK English dictionary?

2006-05-23 Thread MFPA

Hi

On Monday 22 May 2006 at 5:27:31 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Ben Allen wrote:

... but then again I can always correct it.

Which kinda defeats the point of having a dictionary / spell
checker  (-:

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Re[2]: Does the International pack have a UK English dictionary?

2006-05-22 Thread Ben Allen
Howdy MFPA,

Friday, May 19, 2006, 10:23:16 PM, MFPA wrotened:

 Times change.

MFPA Yes, when I was very young it was trendy and modern to use -ise.
MFPA -ize was still about but generally going out of fashion.

MFPA Throughout my school/college career -ize generally cropped up only
MFPA in old or American texts (except for some reason in the past
MFPA tense, -ized was much in evidence).

MFPA A couple of decades later and -ize has gained in popularity once
MFPA more. I remain convinced this is due to dodgy spell-checkers.  ;-)

Its  one  of those interesting things with languages... especially the
English  Language,  which  lets face it has borrowed words and phrases
from  most languages (French, Latin, Saxon etc etc.), that they are in
a permanent state of flux. To the best of my knowledge the suffix -ize
is  Americanism,  but  it did exist in one or two words in the English
version  of  English.  It's  basically a different dialect of the same
language.  However  to  put  American spellings in the British English
section  of  the  International Dictionary does seem wrong... but then
again I can always correct it.



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Re: Does the International pack have a UK English dictionary?

2006-05-19 Thread MFPA

Hi

On Thursday 4 May 2006 at 3:32:04 AM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Berger wrote:

 There was an in-depth discussion here  a few months ago. I don't
 remember the details, but they supported the -ize ending in nearly all
 uses.

My understanding is that while -ize is standard in the US, in most
cases in the UK it is merely an acceptable alternative to the
usual -ise form. (I repeat my previous comment that to whom it is
acceptable has never been clear.)

I can see an argument for supporting a spelling that is standard
one side of the pond and acceptable the other side...

 Harrap's Dictionary of English Usage

Never heard of it.

 Times change.

Yes, when I was very young it was trendy and modern to use -ise.
-ize was still about but generally going out of fashion.

Throughout my school/college career -ize generally cropped up only
in old or American texts (except for some reason in the past
tense, -ized was much in evidence).

A couple of decades later and -ize has gained in popularity once
more. I remain convinced this is due to dodgy spell-checkers.  ;-)

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Re[2]: Does the International pack have a UK English dictionary?

2006-05-19 Thread Paul Berger
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Saturday, May 20, 2006, 7:23:16 AM, you wrote:

M Hi

M On Thursday 4 May 2006 at 3:32:04 AM, in
M mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Berger wrote:

 There was an in-depth discussion here  a few months ago. I don't
 remember the details, but they supported the -ize ending in nearly all
 uses.

M My understanding is that while -ize is standard in the US, in most
M cases in the UK it is merely an acceptable alternative to the
M usual -ise form. (I repeat my previous comment that to whom it is
M acceptable has never been clear.)

M I can see an argument for supporting a spelling that is standard
M one side of the pond and acceptable the other side...

 Harrap's Dictionary of English Usage

M Never heard of it.

 Times change.

M Yes, when I was very young it was trendy and modern to use -ise.
M -ize was still about but generally going out of fashion.

M Throughout my school/college career -ize generally cropped up only
M in old or American texts (except for some reason in the past
M tense, -ized was much in evidence).

M A couple of decades later and -ize has gained in popularity once
M more. I remain convinced this is due to dodgy spell-checkers.  ;-)



I see your point of view. I have no strong feelings either way.


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Re: Does the International pack have a UK English dictionary?

2006-05-03 Thread MFPA

Hi

On Monday 1 May 2006 at 4:45:58 AM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Berger
wrote:


 Yes, British English.


Unless it has changed since the version I have, you will find lots
of spellings that are acceptable in UK English but more usually
seen in US English, such as -ize endings instead of -ise...

Acceptable to whom is anybody's guess, since the UK has no
equivalent of L'Acadamie Francaise.

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Re[2]: Does the International pack have a UK English dictionary?

2006-05-03 Thread Paul Berger
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Thursday, May 4, 2006, 3:27:30 AM, you wrote:

M Hi

M On Monday 1 May 2006 at 4:45:58 AM, in
M mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Berger
M wrote:


 Yes, British English.


M Unless it has changed since the version I have, you will find lots
M of spellings that are acceptable in UK English but more usually
M seen in US English, such as -ize endings instead of -ise...

M Acceptable to whom is anybody's guess, since the UK has no
M equivalent of L'Acadamie Francaise.


Hi MFPA.

There was an in-depth discussion here  a few months ago. I don't
remember the details, but they supported the -ize ending in nearly all
uses.

Harrap's Dictionary of English Usage also prefers -ize with a list of
44 exceptions. Also a simple rule  of thumb that if a verb can form a
noun ending in -ation, then the verb should be spelled -ize.

Times change.


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Does the International pack have a UK English dictionary?

2006-04-30 Thread Marten Gallagher
Does the International pack have a UK English dictionary?

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Re: Does the International pack have a UK English dictionary?

2006-04-30 Thread Paul Berger
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Monday, May 1, 2006, 5:20:58 AM, you wrote:

MG Does the International pack have a UK English dictionary?



Yes, British English.


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English dictionary

2003-08-03 Thread Paul Richardson

My copy of The Bat only offers a US dictionary, which is of limited
use to me. Where can I get an English dictionary?

The Help file, which must be The Bat's weakest feature (I've just
spent an hour trying to find out how to edit an e-mail in the Outbox), is of no help.

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Re: English dictionary

2003-08-03 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
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Hi Paul,

@3-Aug-2003, 18:05 Paul Richardson [PR] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

PR My copy of The Bat only offers a US dictionary, which is of
PR limited use to me. Where can I get an English dictionary?

You need to install the International Support Pack to enable British
English dictionaries.

You can download this from the FTP site or from
http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/download.html

PR The Help file, which must be The Bat's weakest feature (I've
PR just spent an hour trying to find out how to edit an e-mail in
PR the Outbox),

Just double click on the message in the message list.

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Re: English dictionary

2003-08-03 Thread Paul Richardson

Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

 You need to install the International Support Pack to enable British
 English dictionaries.

TVM

I thought there might be an easier option. This file is bigger than
the program file (!) and contains masses of stuff which is of no use to
me.

 Just double click on the message in the message list.

TVM again. That escaped me. The solution I eventually found was a
context menu click with the message highlighted.

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