{Spam?} Re[2]: Filtering not working on IMAP
Hello Robert, Sunday, February 3, 2008, 10:11:27 AM, you wrote: RT Hello Jonathan, RT Sunday, February 3, 2008, 1:39:21 PM, you wrote: I have 3.99.29 installed. I've noticed that on my IMAP accounts, the filtering doesn't always work. When I exit and restart the program, and then select the unfiltered messages and run the input filters on the selected messages, then the filtering works. RT The Bat!'s IMAP filtering is broken. I doubt it will ever get fixed RT since IMAP doesn't seem to be getting much attention from the RT developers. All the filters for this account simply refer to the headers, none refer to the contents of the messages. This way the filtering can work without downloading the entire messaes. RT This does not matter, it fails exactly the same way even if you RT download the entire messages. The server is a Dovecot server, on a Fedora 6 system. RT In a similar setup (Dovecot + SuSE), I moved to server-side filtering RT using SIEVE. Works like a charm. If it is a possibility for you, try RT it. You won't regret the change. I have implemented some server-side filtering, but there are still a few things I'd like to have The Bat! filter. However, I don't have access to the server for some of my accounts (does gMail ring a bell?). I'm disappointed in Ritlabs. One reason I have been using this program for the past 5-6+ years was the frequent updates and support. To have something as basic as the filtering only work in POP is very disappointing. JBB --- Jonathan B. Bayer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filtering not working on IMAP
Hello TBUDL, Still looking for an answer for this problem: I have 3.99.29 installed. I've noticed that on my IMAP accounts, the filtering doesn't always work. When I exit and restart the program, and then select the unfiltered messages and run the input filters on the selected messages, then the filtering works. All the filters for this account simply refer to the headers, none refer to the contents of the messages. This way the filtering can work without downloading the entire messaes. The server is a Dovecot server, on a Fedora 6 system. Any ideas why the filtering doesn't work sometimes? Thanks JBB --- Jonathan B. Bayer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering not working on IMAP
Hello Jonathan, Sunday, February 3, 2008, 1:39:21 PM, you wrote: I have 3.99.29 installed. I've noticed that on my IMAP accounts, the filtering doesn't always work. When I exit and restart the program, and then select the unfiltered messages and run the input filters on the selected messages, then the filtering works. The Bat!'s IMAP filtering is broken. I doubt it will ever get fixed since IMAP doesn't seem to be getting much attention from the developers. All the filters for this account simply refer to the headers, none refer to the contents of the messages. This way the filtering can work without downloading the entire messaes. This does not matter, it fails exactly the same way even if you download the entire messages. The server is a Dovecot server, on a Fedora 6 system. In a similar setup (Dovecot + SuSE), I moved to server-side filtering using SIEVE. Works like a charm. If it is a possibility for you, try it. You won't regret the change. -- Best regards, Robert Tomanek mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering not working on IMAP
Hello Jonathan, Sunday, February 3, 2008, 6:39:21 AM, you wrote: Still looking for an answer for this problem: I have 3.99.29 installed. I've noticed that on my IMAP accounts, the filtering doesn't always work. When I exit and restart the program, and then select the unfiltered messages and run the input filters on the selected messages, then the filtering works. All the filters for this account simply refer to the headers, none refer to the contents of the messages. This way the filtering can work without downloading the entire messaes. The server is a Dovecot server, on a Fedora 6 system. This seems to be one of the problems with IMAP that is a known issue, but not being worked on until the next version is officaily released. It is odd as filtering tends to work most of the time, but fails sometimes and as you say works when you manual filter. It may have something to do with the problem of counters not updating correctly. Apparently a rewrite of the way TB! stores messages is necessary to fix. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering not working on IMAP
On Sunday, February 3, 2008, 9:11:27 AM, Robert Tomanek wrote: The Bat!'s IMAP filtering is broken. I doubt it will ever get fixed since IMAP doesn't seem to be getting much attention from the developers. I continue to wonder what the point of filtering in TB! for IMAP. All my filtering is done server side. That way I don't have to wait until TB! has been run to have my mail filtered. If I am filtering on a machine at site A, and am at site B, my mail won't get filtered until I travel to site A and crank up TB! If I am at a computer in Town C, and want to log on to my IMAP account in an internet cafe or at a relative's home my mail won't get filtered until I get home. -- Dwight A. Corrin 1201 W River Blvd Apt B108 Wichita KS 67203 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filtering not working on IMAP
Hello Dwight, Sunday, February 3, 2008, 11:08:15 AM, you wrote: DAC I continue to wonder what the point of filtering in TB! for IMAP. All DAC my filtering is done server side. That way I don't have to wait until DAC TB! has been run to have my mail filtered. If I am filtering on a DAC machine at site A, and am at site B, my mail won't get filtered until DAC I travel to site A and crank up TB! If I am at a computer in Town C, DAC and want to log on to my IMAP account in an internet cafe or at a DAC relative's home my mail won't get filtered until I get home. How can you do all your filtering server side? I do things in TB! that cannot be done on the server using filters that I know of. I also don't have my own server, but rely on the ISP for that. Just wondering if I'm missing something. :) -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering not working on IMAP
On Sunday, February 3, 2008, 11:26:55 AM, Stuart Cuddy wrote: How can you do all your filtering server side? I do things in TB! that cannot be done on the server using filters that I know of. ok. point well taken. I'm not currently doing any filtering sophisticated that I need TB! to do it. -- Dwight A. Corrin 1201 W River Blvd Apt B108 Wichita KS 67203 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering not working on IMAP
Hello Dwight, Sunday, February 3, 2008, 6:08:15 PM, you wrote: I continue to wonder what the point of filtering in TB! for IMAP. All my filtering is done server side. That way I don't have to wait until The key point is that not everyone using IMAP has access to server side filtering. Some people happen to have full access to their servers but most can only use what their ISPs provide (and this often does not include SIEVE nor other filtering system). -- Best regards, Robert Tomanek mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filtering not working on IMAP
Hello TBUDL, I have 3.99.29 installed. I've noticed that on my IMAP accounts, the filtering doesn't always work. When I exit and restart the program, and then select the unfiltered messages and run the input filters on the selected messages, then the filtering works. All the filters for this account simply refer to the headers, none refer to the contents of the messages. This way the filtering can work without downloading the entire messaes. The server is a Dovecot server, on a Fedora 6 system. Any ideas why the filtering doesn't work sometimes? Thanks JBB --- Jonathan B. Bayer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering not working on IMAP
Jonathan B. Bayer @ 2007-11-24 7:38:12 PM Filtering not working on IMAP mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] All the filters for this account simply refer to the headers, none refer to the contents of the messages. This way the filtering can work without downloading the entire messaes. Slightly different problem: see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Christopher Using The Bat! v3.99.25 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Is the glass half empty, half full, or twice as large as it needs to be? pgpTF4lLPBmwU.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
