Re[2]: Folder Maintenance - Check Integrity/Repair

2005-09-06 Thread z5worg

Monday, September 05, 2005, Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ...

 I am not sure whether you did the following after creating the temp
 folder from within TB:

 Close TB
 Delete messages.tbb and messages.tbi
 Rename part0001.bin to messages.tbb and put it into that directory
 Open TB

Yes, this is what I did.


 If this is what you did and you still get the error, the message file
 is really damaged. Somebody with a hex editor might be able to take a
 look.

zzc Does this mean that the old part001.bin is useless, and messages
zzc can not be recovered?

 Not yet. Let's open that file with a screwdriver first and have a look
 inside.

It is mostly text.  So I copy and paste it into a new file.  There are 2
message.  So I manually clean it up and save the as 2 *.msg files.


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Re: Folder Maintenance - Check Integrity/Repair

2005-09-05 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo z5worg,

On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 01:35:55 -0400GMT (5-9-2005, 7:35 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

Z I  do not find a part0001.bin on my HD's subfolder1.  There is a
Z part0001.bin in another subfolder from an earlier run of Folder
Z Maintenance.  What do I do with that file?  Does it contain the damaged
Z messages?  How do I recover them?

Create a new folder with TB
Exit TB
Copy the *.bin file to your new folder and rename it to messages.tbb
(this means you'll have to delete the original messages.tbb and .tbi
files and that's why you created a new=empty folder)

Z Also, the messages listed against Subfolder1 is 4,920. Where are the
Z other 6 messages? There are similar differences in # of messages for the
Z other 3 damaged folders.

I don't know why these differences exist, but you can try two things:
exit TB
delete the messages.tbi files for the problem folders
(the messages.tbi file contains the index for the folder, when the
file is missing, TB creates a new one)
start TB and check whether everything is as it should be.

If it isn't right now.
Create a new folder.
Move all messages from one of your problem folders to your new folder
Compress the problem folder and see if there are any messages left
Continue to do so till it's empty.
Exit TB
Check whether the messages.tbb file for the problem folder is empty.
(The messages.tbb file for an empty folder is 4 kB, the messages.tbi
should be 17 kB)
If it's not, check whether you can salvage something with a text
editor and delete them afterwards.
If it's empty, delete both files anyway.
Start TB and move the messages back from the new folder to their
original folder (to keep your filters from messing up)
Compress the new folder.
Now proceed with your next problem folder.

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Re[2]: Folder Maintenance - Check Integrity/Repair

2005-09-05 Thread z5worg

Monday, September 05, 2005, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 01:35:55 -0400GMT (5-9-2005, 7:35 +0200, where I
 live), you wrote:

Z I  do not find a part0001.bin on my HD's subfolder1.  There is a
Z part0001.bin in another subfolder from an earlier run of Folder
Z Maintenance.  What do I do with that file?  Does it contain the damaged
Z messages?  How do I recover them?

 Create a new folder with TB
 Exit TB
 Copy the *.bin file to your new folder and rename it to messages.tbb
 (this means you'll have to delete the original messages.tbb and .tbi
 files and that's why you created a new=empty folder)

I created a Temp folder; and follow the instructions above.  When I
re-open TB, the Temp folder shows 0 messages.  Then I check the
integrity of the Temp folder.  The result is Messages Recovered:0,
Damaged Parts (part0001.bin), Saved:1.

However, the Temp folder still shows 0 messages.  When I look in my hard
drive, the new part001.bin is smaller than the previous part001.bin; and
the messages.tbb and *.tbi in Temp folder indicate an empty folder.

Does this mean that the old part001.bin is useless, and messages can not
be recovered?


Z Also, the messages listed against Subfolder1 is 4,920. Where are the
Z other 6 messages? There are similar differences in # of messages for the
Z other 3 damaged folders.

 I don't know why these differences exist, but you can try two things:
 exit TB
 delete the messages.tbi files for the problem folders
 

This doesn't work.

 If it isn't right now.
 Create a new folder.
 Move all messages from one of your problem folders to your new folder
 Compress the problem folder and see if there are any messages left
 . and move the messages back from the new folder to their
 original folder (to keep your filters from messing up)
 Compress the new folder.
 Now proceed with your next problem folder.

This works in that the Integrity check shows the smaller message
numbers.

Separately, after I ran the Integrity check today, some row labels are
missing on the Results section on the bottom.

On the bottom Left   On the bottom Right
   Duplicate found: 0 172
   Messages purged: 0   3
   Disk space saved  8447

When I ran the Integrity check the day before, I remembered that there
were row labels for the numbers on the bottom Right. Why am I missing
those row labels? And how can I get them back on the Results page again?

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Re: Folder Maintenance - Check Integrity/Repair

2005-09-05 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello z5worg,

On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 20:58:30 -0400 GMT (06/09/2005, 07:58 +0700 GMT),
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

zzc I created a Temp folder; and follow the instructions above.  When I
zzc re-open TB, the Temp folder shows 0 messages.  Then I check the
zzc integrity of the Temp folder.  The result is Messages Recovered:0,
zzc Damaged Parts (part0001.bin), Saved:1.

zzc However, the Temp folder still shows 0 messages.  When I look in my hard
zzc drive, the new part001.bin is smaller than the previous part001.bin; and
zzc the messages.tbb and *.tbi in Temp folder indicate an empty folder.

I am not sure whether you did the following after creating the temp
folder from within TB:

Close TB
Delete messages.tbb and messages.tbi
Rename part0001.bin to messages.tbb and put it into that directory
Open TB

If this is what you did and you still get the error, the message file
is really damaged. Somebody with a hex editor might be able to take a
look.

zzc Does this mean that the old part001.bin is useless, and messages
zzc can not be recovered?

Not yet. Let's open that file with a screwdriver first and have a look
inside.

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Re[3]: Folder Maintenance - Check Integrity/Repair

2005-09-05 Thread z5worg

Monday, September 05, 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Monday, September 05, 2005, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 01:35:55 -0400GMT (5-9-2005, 7:35 +0200, where I
 live), you wrote:

 

 If it isn't right now.
 Create a new folder.
 Move all messages from one of your problem folders to your new folder
 Compress the problem folder and see if there are any messages left
 . and move the messages back from the new folder to their
 original folder (to keep your filters from messing up)
 Compress the new folder.
 Now proceed with your next problem folder.

 This works in that the Integrity check shows the smaller message
 numbers.

I forgot to mention that when I move messages from the problem folder to
the new folder, TB asks me whether I want to move the parked messages;
and I click on Yes.  However, when I move the messages from the new
folder back to the old folder, it didn't ask me that question about
parked messages.  And I found the Park markings are all gone in that
folder.  Is that normal?  Or does it indicate some other problem(s)?

[The integrity check shows no problem.]

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Folder Maintenance - Check Integrity/Repair

2005-09-04 Thread z5worg

When I run that for all the Accounts/subfolders, there were 3 damaged
folders.

e.g. Subfolder1

 Messages recovered: 4,926, damaged parts (part.bin), Saved:0

I  do not find a part0001.bin on my HD's subfolder1.  There is a
part0001.bin in another subfolder from an earlier run of Folder
Maintenance.  What do I do with that file?  Does it contain the damaged
messages?  How do I recover them?

Also, the messages listed against Subfolder1 is 4,920. Where are the
other 6 messages? There are similar differences in # of messages for the
other 3 damaged folders.

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JM


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