Re: Seti@home (was: Re: Folders don't display contents immediately)
Hello Chris, On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 23:55:00 -0400 GMT (11/08/2004, 10:55 +0700 GMT), Chris wrote: C It probably doesn't add much value; however, [EMAIL PROTECTED] may be causing C your problem. Try turning it off and see if your folders display at C the right speed. I had this problem when I ran [EMAIL PROTECTED] all the time. I turned it off and the larger folders still open with the same delay. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. When they broke open molecules, they found they were only stuffed with atoms. But when they broke open atoms, they found them stuffed with explosions. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.12.02 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Folders don't display contents immediately
Batlovers On 16 July in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I complained that TB! was taking an inordinate amount of time to start up and that sometimes when I selected a folder in the account tree the contents would not display immediately in the message list. Well the slow start up still occurs, but only occasionally and not frequently enough to be a problem. However the problem of the message list not displaying is a constant, ongoing and annoying problem. What happens is that I will select a folder and, for no reason that I can determine, TB! will simply not display the contents. The only solution is to keep the focus on TB! and wait for 40 seconds, when the contents will suddenly appear. On average this seems to occur about one in ten times that I change folder focus, but sometimes it occurs much more frequently. Since I am constantly changing folders in my work as I refer to messages filed in different folders, stopping for 40 seconds more than very occasionally rapidly becomes a major annoyance. So much so that I am now thinking about downgrading to v2.11 to avoid the problem. Has anyone else experienced the problem? Does anyone know of a solution, even a possible solution, before I go crazy with frustration???!!! -- Robin Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folders don't display contents immediately
Robin Anson, [RA] wrote: What happens is that I will select a folder and, for no reason that I can determine, TB! will simply not display the contents. The only solution is to keep the focus on TB! and wait for 40 seconds, when the contents will suddenly appear. On average this seems to occur about one in ten times that I change folder focus, but sometimes it occurs much more frequently. Are these POP or IMAP. I have this with IMAP folders at times. Long delays before the contents appear. Which anti-virus program are you using. Could there be an issue with fighting over the message base for scanning vs TB! for displaying? -- Allie Martin [List Moderator and fellow end-user] The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/4 on WinXP Pro (SP1) . Brevity is the soul of lingerie. pgp1UyCqp1DJY.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folders don't display contents immediately
On Tue 10 August 2004, 22:09:27 +1000, Allie Martin wrote: Are these POP or IMAP. POP Which anti-virus program are you using. Could there be an issue with fighting over the message base for scanning vs TB! for displaying? I'm using eTrust, but it isn't related to downloading of messages. It happens even to folders that haven't had a new message for days. -- Robin Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folders don't display contents immediately
Robin Anson, [RA] wrote: I'm using eTrust, but it isn't related to downloading of messages. It happens even to folders that haven't had a new message for days. This doesn't necessarily matter. Have you tried disabling eTrust's system scanner? Yes, eScan will scan files that have changed or that it considers to be new and needs scanning. Be that as it may, sometimes, this sort of thing defies logical explanation since we don't have all the cards on the table. :) What you're experiencing is VERY odd, especially since it's a POP account. A 100 message folder taking 40 secs to display the message list is just off the scale. Something is causing it and I really doubt that it's simply TB!. A corrupt message base is one of the few reasons confined to TB!. Made any changes to your system lately? Is your system behaving normally otherwise? -- Allie Martin [List Moderator and fellow end-user] The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/4 on WinXP Pro (SP1) . Remember, UNIX spelled backwards is XINU. pgpsUz1ZuQq23.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folders don't display contents immediately
Hello Robin, On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 20:30:41 +1000 GMT (10/08/2004, 17:30 +0700 GMT), Robin Anson wrote: RA What happens is that I will select a folder and, for no reason that I can RA determine, TB! will simply not display the contents. The only solution is RA to keep the focus on TB! and wait for 40 seconds, when the contents will RA suddenly appear. On average this seems to occur about one in ten times RA that I change folder focus, but sometimes it occurs much more frequently. 40 seconds is a lot, but I keep experiencing a few seconds too many on my Win98 system at home. I don't have that problem in the office on XP Pro. I noticed that the problem occurs with large folders ( a couple of thousand messages, not tens of thousands), but not with smaller folders. Attachment sizes play a role. Purging compressing, deleting the .tbi file, or defragging the disk didn't help. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Woran erkennen Sie, das Sie als Bedienung nichts taugen? Sie halten Caipirinha fur einen fleischfressenden Fisch. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.12.02 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folders don't display contents immediately
Hello Robin Anson, 10-Aug-2004 12:30, you wrote: Has anyone else experienced the problem? Does anyone know of a solution, even a possible solution, before I go crazy with frustration???!!! My TB! startup was significantly slower after I installed a virus scanner with an on-access watchdog. Excluding TB!'s mail directory (and subdirectories) from the on-access scanner helped me. -- Best regards, Alexander Sie müssen sich Microsoft wie eine Bestie vorstellen, die alles verschlingt, was auf ihrem Weg liegt. (Matt Rosoff in 'Directions on Microsoft') Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folders don't display contents immediately
Robin- Have you compacted those folders lately? And have you checked the size of the folders themselves (file size, not number of messages)? Are you storing large binary attachments inline? -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folders don't display contents immediately
On Tue 10 August 2004, 23:05:31 +1000, Allie Martin wrote: Robin Anson, [RA] wrote: I'm using eTrust, but it isn't related to downloading of messages. It happens even to folders that haven't had a new message for days. This doesn't necessarily matter. Have you tried disabling eTrust's system scanner? No, I haven't. I'll give it a go and see whether it makes any difference. Yes, eScan will scan files that have changed or that it considers to be new and needs scanning. Be that as it may, sometimes, this sort of thing defies logical explanation since we don't have all the cards on the table. :) What you're experiencing is VERY odd, especially since it's a POP account. A 100 message folder taking 40 secs to display the message list is just off the scale. Something is causing it and I really doubt that it's simply TB!. A corrupt message base is one of the few reasons confined to TB!. I've run all the functions in the folder maintenance on all folders. That made no difference. Made any changes to your system lately? Is your system behaving normally otherwise? Apart from upgrading to v2.12.00, no recent changes. It seems to be working as well as it ever did. -- Robin Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folders don't display contents immediately
On Wed 11 August 2004, 4:48:57 +1000, Mark Wieder wrote: Have you compacted those folders lately? Yes And have you checked the size of the folders themselves (file size, not number of messages)? They range up to 53MB Are you storing large binary attachments inline? In some of the folders I do. I probably don't have any individual attachments larger than 6MB, but some folders contain many attachments. However the behaviour is exhibited in both my TBUDL and TBOT folders which have very few, and only small, attachments. -- Robin Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folders don't display contents immediately
Robin Anson @ 2004-Aug-10 6:30:41 AM Folders don't display contents immediately mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Has anyone else experienced the problem? Does anyone know of a solution, even a possible solution, before I go crazy with frustration???!!! Are you still running [EMAIL PROTECTED] If so, what version are you running? Are you running the new BOINC-based version? -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 In a Restaurant window: Don't stand there and be hungry, come on in and get fed up. pgpEYrwPTBflS.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folders don't display contents immediately
Robin- Tuesday, August 10, 2004, 3:02:19 PM, you wrote: RA They range up to 53MB Well, I probably can't help there. Most of my folders are under 1MB in size (I store attachments separately) and they almost always open in under a second, even over the network with virus scanners working. When new mail comes in, of course, there's a delay while the virus scanners do their thing. But compacting always gets a zip back in my folders if they're slow in opening. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Seti@home (was: Re: Folders don't display contents immediately)
On Wed 11 August 2004, 9:08:59 +1000, Chris wrote: Are you still running [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, I took out the lines in my sig because of complaints about the size of signatures. I figured it didn't add much value to the TB! mailing lists. If so, what version are you running? Are you running the new BOINC-based version? No, I didn't know about it until I read your email. I will look at it when I have some time. Are you running the new version? -- Robin Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Seti@home (was: Re: Folders don't display contents immediately)
Robin Anson @ 2004-Aug-10 7:58:27 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] (was: Re: Folders don't display contents immediately) mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Are you still running [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, I took out the lines in my sig because of complaints about the size of signatures. I figured it didn't add much value to the TB! mailing lists. It probably doesn't add much value; however, [EMAIL PROTECTED] may be causing your problem. Try turning it off and see if your folders display at the right speed. I had this problem when I ran [EMAIL PROTECTED] all the time. Are you running the new version? Yes I am. The SETI Team is having some problems with the new servers (not being able to get work units, not being able to return work units, not getting credit for work units, loosing work units, etc.), so my experience has been less than great. I would wait to upgrade until they work some of the bugs out. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Today's Oxymoron: Definite maybe pgpKklRnp4VGz.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
