Re: How can I disable sound for Inbox ??

2002-05-31 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello Allie,

 Do you *have to* use the Inbox-Known folder?? The Inbox-Known folder
 has no special features. In fact, you're nicely identifying its
 limitations. Why do you have to use it specifically? You can easily
 simulate what it's doing with another filter and folder.

You are very right Allie. I guess it was too late last night and I
needed some sleep. I do need to use the Known filter, but I can
certainly send the messages to a normal folder. This is what I didn't
see last night. Last night, Known filter could only move messages to
Inbox-Known which obviously is not true.

Thanks for opening my eyes. That should be enough to achieve my
desired setup.

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Re: How can I disable sound for Inbox ??

2002-05-31 Thread Allie C Martin

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DAC I'll have to think about it. I've never complained about all the
DAC extra inbox-knowns hanging around, but an extra trash folder
DAC seems like a nuisance.

Both the Inbox-Known and common trash folders are deleteable. There's
no need to have an extra one.

DAC Editing all the filters which put stuff in the trash folder now
DAC won't be lots of fun, but it's a one shot deal.

Yes. Also..

Waiting for the common trash folder to have sound settings as an added
feature is less fun, I'd expect, if you really want things to work the
way you outlined.

DAC It does seem desirable to have the settings available for the folders
DAC TB creates the same as the ones we create ourselves.

Yes, I agree. I don't think anyone disagrees. However, you need
functionality which is pretty much already there. Just not exactly the
way you want it.

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Re: How can I disable sound for Inbox ??

2002-05-30 Thread Britt Malka

Dear Miguel,

Friday, May 31, 2002 at 12:08:20 AM you wrote:


MAU Yes, I know the answer. The only way is to disable it for the whole
MAU account. But that disables it also for Inbox-Known, where I do need and
MAU want a sound when new mail arrives.

I don't use Inbox-Known, but can't you set a specific sound on it, and
cancel the sound on inbox?


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Re: How can I disable sound for Inbox ??

2002-05-30 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello Britt,

 I don't use Inbox-Known, but can't you set a specific sound on it, and
 cancel the sound on inbox?

Nope. That is exactly the problem. That you can't set or disable sound
for either of them. If I disable sound in Account properties it
disables sound for both, and if I enable it, it is enabled for both.

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Re: How can I disable sound for Inbox ??

2002-05-30 Thread Geoff Lane

On 30 May 2002, 23:26, Miguel A. Urech wrote:

 Nope. That is exactly the problem. That you can't set or disable sound
 for either of them. If I disable sound in Account properties it
 disables sound for both, and if I enable it, it is enabled for both.
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I've got a Sound tab on each folder's properties. This has three
options:
1. Use account settings
2. Use own sound settings
3. Sound disabled

This tab also has provision for choosing a sound file.

Hopefully, this will let you turn off sound for all folders, on a
folder-by-folder basis, leaving sound only for the required folder.

If that fails, try recording a short period of silence and use that
for the folders where no sound is required.

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Re: How can I disable sound for Inbox ??

2002-05-30 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello Geoff,

 I've got a Sound tab on each folder's properties.

Not for you Inbox or Inbox-Known, or do you? They only have the
General tab in their properties.

 If that fails, try recording a short period of silence and use that
 for the folders where no sound is required.

That is exactly what I was trying a few minutes ago. But I can't
assign it to the Inbox folder, I have to do it as one of the actions
of the filters. It's so awkward! I hate TB when I find one of these
stupid and basic limitations!

I wonder why RITLabs decided that properties for Inbox and Inbox-Known
must be different to the rest of the foders. Because templates are not
needed for Inbox? And why not, I can open the editor and write a
message while displaying the Inbox, it should then be up to me to have
or not have and use or not use Inbox folder templates.

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Re: How can I disable sound for Inbox ??

2002-05-30 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello Miguel,

Replying to myself? No, I just forgot to say something.

 That is exactly what I was trying a few minutes ago. But I can't
 assign it to the Inbox folder, I have to do it as one of the actions
 of the filters. It's so awkward! I hate TB when I find one of these
 stupid and basic limitations!

As I said in my original message, I only need/want sound in my
Inbox-Known folder. So, the easiest thing would be to disable sound at
Account level and then select a Sound Action in the Known filter. But
the Known filter has no optional actions! All it can do is move
messages to Inbox-Known!

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Re: How can I disable sound for Inbox ??

2002-05-30 Thread Allie C Martin

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Miguel A. Urech [MAU] wrote
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 That is exactly what I was trying a few minutes ago. But I can't
 assign it to the Inbox folder, I have to do it as one of the actions
 of the filters. It's so awkward! I hate TB when I find one of these
 stupid and basic limitations!

MAU As I said in my original message, I only need/want sound in my
MAU Inbox-Known folder.

Do you *have to* use the Inbox-Known folder?? The Inbox-Known folder
has no special features. In fact, you're nicely identifying its
limitations. Why do you have to use it specifically? You can easily
simulate what it's doing with another filter and folder.

Why not create another common folder and filter messages using the
address book matching criteria that exist in the filter rules setup?
You can also make the filter make a sound when matches are found.
Finally, disable sound for your accounts. Instead of making the filter
make the sounds you could also configure the folder to make a sound
when it receives messages and disable sounds elsewhere.

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How can I disable sound for Inbox ??

2002-05-30 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello all,

Yes, I know the answer. The only way is to disable it for the whole
account. But that disables it also for Inbox-Known, where I do need and
want a sound when new mail arrives.

Actually, the way I have my incoming filters set up no message ends up
in Inbox. Why do I want to disable sound then?

OK, assume this scenario. I want/need to modify some of my Incoming
filters so that if a message is addressed to one of, or any number and
combination of, let's say to A, B and C, a copy of the message must go
to the corresponding A, B and/or C folders. It is clear then that I
must test for each recipient in a separate filter, right? So what's
the problem?

Incoming filters *force* you to move the message to a folder, even if
it is Inbox itself, right? So, how can I set up my filters? Easy.

What I do is set a filter to test for A and, if preset as a recipient,
_move_ to Inbox, _copy_ to folder A and allow to continue processing
with other filters. Great! That way, the next filter in sequence can
test for B in the same fashion, the next for C, etc., and then I add a
last one that tests for A .OR. B .OR. C  and delete the message if
any is present. Great! It works!

What's the problem then, Miguel? Well... that when a message is moved
from Inbox to itself, the bell IINNNS and I only want
the bell to call my attention when a message if filtered into
Inbox-Known.

Any suggestion?

TIA.

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Re: How can I disable sound for Inbox ??

2002-05-30 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Thursday, May 30, 2002, 10:55:07 PM, Allie C Martin wrote:

 It's a reasonable work-around IMO. Or do you insist on using a
 premade trash folder to do what you wish?

I'll have to think about it. I've never complained about all the extra
inbox-knowns hanging around, but an extra trash folder seems like a
nuisance. Editing all the filters which put stuff in the trash folder
now won't be lots of fun, but it's a one shot deal.

It does seem desirable to have the settings available for the folders
TB creates the same as the ones we create ourselves.

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