Re[2]: Configuring K9 Spam Filter
Hello Peter, Thursday, September 28, 2006, 8:02:14 PM, you wrote: Peter Hello Granville Cousins, Peter on Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:41:26 +0100 (2006-09-28 15:41:26 in .nl) in the Peter message with reference Peter mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you [GC] Peter wrote (at least in part): I am using K9 Spam filter on my machine running Windows 2000. Is it possible to configure The Bat! to Filter my email by adding: X-Text-Classification: - to the Header line. Yes I have ticked this option in Configuration/K9 but then am lost as to how to get this to work with The Bat!. I have simply set up a common filter that applies to all accounts/folders that looks for (in my case) spam in the x-text lasifiction header and instructs that filter, if f triggered, to send the offending ,ail to the junk folder. GC Where can I find this configuration in The Bat! filters section? I have GC looked in there and cannot see any place where I can request The Bat! GC to filter my email using the header classification. I am running The GC Bat! version 1.6r. Peter From memory: Peter Use [Account | Sorting Office/Filters] to create a filter. Peter Click on New filter (or similar). Peter In the pane on the right, leftmost tab, give the filter a name etc. Peter etc. and add a filter condition: Peter - at the left there is a text field available, put Peter X-Text-Classification: in there (no quotes). Peter - in the middle there's a drop down list, select Kludges (TB lingo for Peter headers). Peter - at the right is another drop down list, select Yes. Peter The second tab allows you to add more filter conditions. Peter In case you want to use regex in the filter conditions, select the Peter third (or was it forth?) tab and check the box next to Use regular Peter expressions (or similar) text. Thanks Guys, it's worked. -- Love and Light, Granvillemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Configuring K9 Spam Filter
Hello Peter, Thursday, September 28, 2006, 8:02:14 PM, you wrote: Peter Hello Granville Cousins, Peter on Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:41:26 +0100 (2006-09-28 15:41:26 in .nl) in the Peter message with reference Peter mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you [GC] Peter wrote (at least in part): I am using K9 Spam filter on my machine running Windows 2000. Is it possible to configure The Bat! to Filter my email by adding: X-Text-Classification: - to the Header line. Yes I have ticked this option in Configuration/K9 but then am lost as to how to get this to work with The Bat!. I have simply set up a common filter that applies to all accounts/folders that looks for (in my case) spam in the x-text lasifiction header and instructs that filter, if f triggered, to send the offending ,ail to the junk folder. GC Where can I find this configuration in The Bat! filters section? I have GC looked in there and cannot see any place where I can request The Bat! GC to filter my email using the header classification. I am running The GC Bat! version 1.6r. Peter From memory: Peter Use [Account | Sorting Office/Filters] to create a filter. Peter Click on New filter (or similar). Peter In the pane on the right, leftmost tab, give the filter a name etc. Peter etc. and add a filter condition: Peter - at the left there is a text field available, put Peter X-Text-Classification: in there (no quotes). Peter - in the middle there's a drop down list, select Kludges (TB lingo for Peter headers). Peter - at the right is another drop down list, select Yes. Peter The second tab allows you to add more filter conditions. Peter In case you want to use regex in the filter conditions, select the Peter third (or was it forth?) tab and check the box next to Use regular Peter expressions (or similar) text. Can you tell me where I can view the X-Text-Classification: spam marker in emails that have been designated as Spam by The Bat!? This is just to see that it is working correctly. Thanks -- Love and Light, Granvillemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Configuring K9 Spam Filter
Hi Granville, on Sat, 30 Sep 2006 10:41:55 +0100GMT (30.09.2006, 11:41 +0200GMT here), you wrote: GC Thursday, September 28, 2006, 8:02:14 PM, you wrote: GC Can you tell me where I can view the X-Text-Classification: spam GC marker in emails that have been designated as Spam by The Bat!? GC This is just to see that it is working correctly. Select the message and press ctrl+shift+K. This will show you all headers. -- Cheers Peter Aibohphobia - Fear of palindromes Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Configuring K9 Spam Filter
Hallo Granville, On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 10:41:55 +0100GMT (30-9-2006, 11:41 , where I live), you wrote: GC Can you tell me where I can view the X-Text-Classification: spam GC marker in emails that have been designated as Spam by The Bat!? GC This is just to see that it is working correctly. Press Ctrl-Shift-K, that will show you all headers, you can look for your custom header between them, probably it's the last header before the message starts. Press Ctrl-Shift-K again to make the headers invisible again. -- Groetjes, Roelof I love animals...they're delicious! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.85.03 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpXUdoFnhLRx.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Configuring K9 Spam Filter
Hello Roelof, Saturday, September 30, 2006, 11:33:34 AM, you wrote: Roelof Hallo Granville, Roelof On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 10:41:55 +0100GMT (30-9-2006, 11:41 , where I Roelof live), you wrote: GC Can you tell me where I can view the X-Text-Classification: spam GC marker in emails that have been designated as Spam by The Bat!? GC This is just to see that it is working correctly. Roelof Press Ctrl-Shift-K, that will show you all headers, you can look for Roelof your custom header between them, probably it's the last header before Roelof the message starts. Roelof Press Ctrl-Shift-K again to make the headers invisible again. Cheers, have a good day. -- Love and Light, Granvillemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Configuring K9 Spam Filter
On 26 Sep 2006, at 11:09, Marten Gallagher wrote: Hello TBUDL, I am using K9 Spam filter on my machine running Windows 2000. Is it possible to configure The Bat! to Filter my email by adding: X-Text-Classification: - to the Header line. Yes I have ticked this option in Configuration/K9 but then am lost as to how to get this to work with The Bat!. I have simply set up a common filter that applies to all accounts/folders that looks for (in my case) spam in the x-text lasifiction header and instructs that filter, if f triggered, to send the offending ,ail to the junk folder. Where can I find this configuration in The Bat! filters section? I have looked in there and cannot see any place where I can request The Bat! to filter my email using the header classification. I am running The Bat! version 1.6r. Love Light, Granville Running The Bat! version 1.6r on Windows 2000 www.yogawithgranville.com Love Light, Granville www.yogawithgranville.com Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Configuring K9 Spam Filter
Hello Granville Cousins everyone else, on 28-Sep-2006 at 15:41 you (Granville Cousins) wrote: Where can I find this configuration in The Bat! filters section? I have looked in there and cannot see any place where I can request The Bat! to filter my email using the header classification. I am running The Bat! version 1.6r. Marten is using version 3 of TheBat, you're still using v1. Things are very different in the sorting office in the meantime. If I remember correctly, you have to create a filter with a regular expression test in v1. I hope someone can help you, I sure know it *IS* possible to filter for headers in v1, I did that myself, but v1 really was years ago... Maybe you should update, anyway. The update is not very expensive and you get many new and nice functions. Virtual folders, plugins, common filters, the all new and much more comprehensible sorting office... -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Configuring K9 Spam Filter
Hello Roelof Otten everyone else, on 26-Sep-2006 at 17:21 you (Roelof Otten) wrote: The first step to follow Peter's instructions would be to upgrade to v3, what Peter suggested can't be done with your 1.62r But only the part with the common filters. He doesn't need to upgrade to v3 to filter for headers/header contents, or does he? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) May you live all the days of your life. -- Johnathan Swift Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Configuring K9 Spam Filter
Hello TBUDL, I am using K9 Spam filter on my machine running Windows 2000. Is it possible to configure The Bat! to Filter my email by adding: X-Text-Classification: - to the Header line. I have ticked this option in Configuration/K9 but then am lost as to how to get this to work with The Bat!. Thanks -- Love and Light, Granville mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Configuring K9 Spam Filter
Hello TBUDL, I am using K9 Spam filter on my machine running Windows 2000. Is it possible to configure The Bat! to Filter my email by adding: X-Text-Classification: - to the Header line. Yes I have ticked this option in Configuration/K9 but then am lost as to how to get this to work with The Bat!. I have simply set up a common filter that applies to all accounts/folders that looks for (in my case) spam in the x-text lasifiction header and instructs that filter, if f triggered, to send the offending ,ail to the junk folder. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.85.03 with K9 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Configuring K9 Spam Filter
Hello Peter, Tuesday, September 26, 2006, 10:55:31 AM, you wrote: Peter Hi Granville, Peter on Tue, 26 Sep 2006 09:44:50 +0100GMT (26.09.2006, 10:44 +0200GMT here), Peter you wrote: GC I am using K9 Spam filter on my machine running Windows 2000. Is it GC possible to configure The Bat! to Filter my email by adding: GC X-Text-Classification: - to the Header line. I have ticked this option GC in Configuration/K9 but then am lost as to how to get this to work GC with The Bat!. Peter Next step would be a filter in The Bat! with the condition Header Peter match X-Text-Classification: spam and the action you want for it. Peter -- Peter Cheers Peter Peter Peter It is now possible for a flight attendant to get a pilot pregnant. Peter - Richard J. Ferris, president of United Airlines Peter Peter Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: Peter http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Can't quite figure out how to do that in The Bat!. Could you give me a littel more step by step help please? -- Love and Light, Granvillemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Configuring K9 Spam Filter
Hallo Granville, On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 11:09:03 +0100GMT (26-9-2006, 12:09 , where I live), you wrote: GC Can't quite figure out how to do that in The Bat!. Could you give me a GC littel more step by step help please? The first step to follow Peter's instructions would be to upgrade to v3, what Peter suggested can't be done with your 1.62r To avoid this kind of confusion it's recommended to insert your TB version and system specifics in your signature. -- Groetjes, Roelof WinErr 007: System price error - Inadequate money spent on hardware http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.85.03 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp8NMY0LQBxL.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Configuring K9 Spam Filter
Hi Granville, on Tue, 26 Sep 2006 09:44:50 +0100GMT (26.09.2006, 10:44 +0200GMT here), you wrote: GC I am using K9 Spam filter on my machine running Windows 2000. Is it GC possible to configure The Bat! to Filter my email by adding: GC X-Text-Classification: - to the Header line. I have ticked this option GC in Configuration/K9 but then am lost as to how to get this to work GC with The Bat!. Next step would be a filter in The Bat! with the condition Header match X-Text-Classification: spam and the action you want for it. -- Cheers Peter It is now possible for a flight attendant to get a pilot pregnant. - Richard J. Ferris, president of United Airlines Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Configuring K9 Spam Filter
Can't quite figure out how to do that in The Bat!. Could you give me a littel more step by step help please? Click Account Sorting Office/Filters Account Drop Down Box: click on Common Filters Click on the funnel top left Right hand side: Name change 'new filter' to 'K9 Junk' or something COndition window: Click on Sender, go down and click on Header Field In new little drop doewn box either select X-Text-Classification or type it in exactly as that (assuming K9 is adding that header field). cotains = whatever K9 is labelling your Junk Bottom half of window: Actions Add mark as read Move to folder (and tell it which folder) Click OK Test it -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.85.03 with K9 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Configuring K9 Spam Filter
Hello Roelof, Tuesday, September 26, 2006, 4:21:33 PM, you wrote: Roelof Hallo Granville, Roelof On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 11:09:03 +0100GMT (26-9-2006, 12:09 , where I Roelof live), you wrote: GC Can't quite figure out how to do that in The Bat!. Could you give me a GC littel more step by step help please? Roelof The first step to follow Peter's instructions would be to upgrade to Roelof v3, what Peter suggested can't be done with your 1.62r Roelof To avoid this kind of confusion it's recommended to insert your TB Roelof version and system specifics in your signature. Thank you for your advice. Seeing that I am running version 1.62r. What do you recommend as a solution? The problem is that my ISP is already marking quite alot of my email as Spam. So I would like to filter out such mail with a very different way of marking it. Can I still do this with my current version and mark my spam with the marker provided by K9. Thank you. Granville Running The Bat! version 1.62r. on Windows 2000. -- Love and Light, Granvillemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Wireless, Bat K9 spam filter
Hello Robin, Thursday, February 2, 2006, 11:54:19 PM, you wrote: I thought the wireless hot spots (i.e. the ones around the city in Sydney and Melbourne, occasionally free in coffee shops, otherwise pay by credit card) only allowed http connections. I could be wrong, I only looked at it once, came to that conclusion and thought I'd look at it later when I worked out how to tunnel pop and smtp through http. if the conclusion is correct, you can look at a software called HTTPORT, which has this meaning exactly - a TCP over HTTP type of tunnel. however, you'll need a server-mode host to keep the other end of the tunnel. -- Best regards, vitaliemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wireless, Bat K9 spam filter
Hallo John, On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 18:05:13 +1100GMT (2-2-2006, 8:05 +0100, where I live), you wrote: JP Unable to get mail using wireless hot spots with Bat K9, although I can JP send mail. First thing that comes to mind is that it's a K9 issue. After all it doesn't matter to TB as it's always downloading from localhost. -- Groetjes, Roelof Second star to the right, and straight on 'til morning. - Kirk The Bat! 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpgecD0snvC7.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wireless, Bat K9 spam filter
On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 13:34:13 +0100 Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo John, On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 18:05:13 +1100GMT (2-2-2006, 8:05 +0100, where I live), you wrote: JP Unable to get mail using wireless hot spots with Bat K9, although I can JP send mail. First thing that comes to mind is that it's a K9 issue. After all it doesn't matter to TB as it's always downloading from localhost. The first thing that struck me was, Is the SMTP agent really sending? Or is it queueing until it finds a healthy connection? As far as TB is concerned it was able to successfully send - to the SMTP agent. So it would appear to TB your mail was sent. Cricket -- At work, using email web interface. They wont let me use TB here :( Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wireless, Bat K9 spam filter
Hello John Phillips everyone else, on 02-Feb-2006 at 08:05 you (John Phillips) wrote: POP Server 127.0.0.1 By default, K9 listens on port , and not 110 (pop3 default). That may be the culprit. I forget it each time I install K9 for someone. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Bhakti (10:18) by Ishq from the album 'Orchid (CD1)' Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wireless, Bat K9 spam filter
Hi Alexander, On Thu, 2 Feb 2006, at 19:29:59 [GMT+0100] (which was Fri, 5:29:59 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: y default, K9 listens on port , and not 110 (pop3 default). Thanks, that is set up correctly. On ADSL in Holiday Inn right now; all working fine. Any other clues? -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v3.65.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 The average woman would rather have beauty than brains, because the average man can see better than he can think. Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wireless, Bat K9 spam filter
Hi Roelof, On Thu, 2 Feb 2006, at 13:34:13 [GMT+0100] (which was 23:34:13 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: First thing that comes to mind is that it's a K9 issue. After all it doesn't matter to TB as it's always downloading from localhost. Thinking about it, it may be the wireless provider issue. All worked fine until recently; wondering if they changed something at their end? Of course, asking the drones who work in their service area is hopeless at the best of times - if it ain't Outofluck Express or Outofluck you are using, you're out of luck! -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v3.65.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 How come there's only one Monopolies Commission? Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wireless, Bat K9 spam filter
On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 at 18:05:13 +1100, John wrote: Unable to get mail using wireless hot spots with Bat K9, although I can send mail. I thought the wireless hot spots (i.e. the ones around the city in Sydney and Melbourne, occasionally free in coffee shops, otherwise pay by credit card) only allowed http connections. I could be wrong, I only looked at it once, came to that conclusion and thought I'd look at it later when I worked out how to tunnel pop and smtp through http. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.3 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Wireless, Bat K9 spam filter
Hi Bat! Fans, Unable to get mail using wireless hot spots with Bat K9, although I can send mail. No problems with dial up or broadband. My settings are:- POP Server 127.0.0.1 log in mail.bigpond.com/110/jp88 password x Am I missing some reason why I cannot download with wireless? I also upload to 127.0.0.1, in this case it is my own SMTP server, which appears to work fine. T.I.A. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v3.65.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Welcome to the Church of the Holy Cabbage. Lettuce pray... Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: K9 spam filter
ASK Except for the nigeria connection scam mails of which I get at least two a ASK day on three accounts ATM. K9 repeatedly misses those. *sigh* RHS They usually get past k9 and BayesIt here also, but frankly I don't RHS mind. Some of them are quite funny, and once in awhile I'll bite on RHS one of them and encourage them to fax me info, call, etc. Since RHS they're usually in Africa, the faxes cost them a bit of money, and I RHS currently live in Uzbekistan, so the random number I give them here is RHS going to frustrate them, since I doubt few of the scammers know RHS Russian or Uzbek. If I can get them to waste time and money on me, RHS maybe some other poor soul won't get taken in that week. I love it! Go get 'em Rick! -- Code 2 :canadaflag: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! version 2.12.00 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 At an Auto Body Shop: May we have the next dents? Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: K9 spam filter
Hello Mark,
On Monday, November 29, 2004, 9:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PJ The filter is as follows:
PJ TB! Message Filter
PJ beginFilter
PJ UID: [97E80840.01C492FE.7689AE34.682BBB08]
PJ Name: K9\20Anti-Spam
PJ Filter: {\0D\0A\20`7`X-Text-Classification`0`\20spam\0D\0A}
PJ MoveMessage folder \5C\5Cpatnet\5C$JUNK$
PJ IsActive
PJ endFilter
PJ Email marked as spam stays resolutely in the inbox. Any ideas?
MP This one works for me:
MP TB! Message Filter
MP beginFilter
MP UID: [4A31FDE0.01C49062.236C3EE8.40D55E8C]
MP Name: K9\20Spam
MP Filter: {0\0D\0A0`5`0`X-Text-Classification:\20spam\0D\0A}
MP MoveMessage folder \5C\5CMark\5CInbox\5CSpam\20Trap\20K9
MP DeleteFromServer
MP IsActive
MP IsSendQueue
MP endFilter
I tried this one and it didn't work either. One account uses
Header contains X-Text-Classification: spam
as a condition; another account uses
Header field X-Text-Classification match spam
(minus quotation marks)
...and neither works consistently. That is, some of the messages K9
marks as spam are redirected, others are not. I've checked the headers
and they are correctly classified, but not always moved.
Could the destination folder have anything to do with it? The filter
is supposed to move them to the Junk folder that already exists.
Thank you!
--
Best wishes,
Pat
A Canadian in Houston
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Re[2]: K9 spam filter
Hi Alexander, On Tuesday, November 30, 2004, 10:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've set up K9 anti-spam and the TB filters to move spam to a junk folder, but for some reason the filter isn't working. K9 allows you to use the message header X-Text-Classification to identify spam for the purpose of filtering it. ASK Just to be on the safe side - you do have defined the header field ASK X-Text-Classification in Preferences | Messages | Message Headers? Yes, I did make that modification-- sorry, I should have mentioned it. K9 learns and works very quickly so this is frustrating; don't know whether it's a K9 problem or a TB problem, but suspect the latter. Thanks and... -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: K9 spam filter
Hello P.Johnson everyone else, on 30-Nov-2004 at 17:11 you (P.Johnson) wrote: K9 learns and works very quickly Except for the nigeria connection scam mails of which I get at least two a day on three accounts ATM. K9 repeatedly misses those. *sigh* so this is frustrating; don't know whether it's a K9 problem or a TB problem, but suspect the latter. Is it a common filter? Maybe you've just forgotten to share it with your accounts. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using TB! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 If God dropped acid, would He see people? Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: K9 spam filter
Hi Alexander, On Tuesday, November 30, 2004, 11:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: K9 learns and works very quickly ASK Except for the nigeria connection scam mails of which I get at least two a ASK day on three accounts ATM. K9 repeatedly misses those. *sigh* I've received a couple lately and you are right, they snuck past K9. However, if I simply send my bank account info I could be a millionaire and hire someone to filter my email! :-) ASK Is it a common filter? Maybe you've just forgotten to share it with your ASK accounts. I've set up two separate filters for the two accounts, using two slightly different conditions. And, neither works consistently. It seems strange that some mail classified as spam would be moved to the correct folder, and others also marked would not be moved by the filter. Thanks for your help! -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: K9 spam filter
Hæ!
My filter looks like this:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [564C1620.01C4B05E.1A441C3F.7FE14B3D]
Name: SPAM
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`5`0`X-Text-Classification:\20junk\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5C\5C$JUNK$
MarkRead
SetColour 226723330
IsActive
Ignore
IsSendQueue
endFilter
and it works perfectly. It is the last filter in a list of *account*
filters.
It has nothing to do with K9, but this common filter works, too:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [9E420870.01C4ADF9.5ED08BA5.73489440]
Name: junk
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`4`2`Get\20a\20capable\20html\20e-mailer\0D\0A}
SetColour 1981009950
MoveMessage folder \5C\5C\5C$JUNK$
MarkRead
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
BTW, is there a way to let TB display the filters in a more readable
and accessible format?
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Re[2]: K9 spam filter
K9 learns and works very quickly ASK Except for the nigeria connection scam mails of which I get at least two a ASK day on three accounts ATM. K9 repeatedly misses those. *sigh* They're troublesome for my filter, too. I figure it's because except for spam words like Nigeria, Togo and Central African Republic, the text is generally found in the good word database. The blacklist feature now helps me filter these more effectively. -- Code 2 :canadaflag: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! version 2.12.00 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Majorcan shop entrance: Here speeching American. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: K9 spam filter
Hello Code 2 everyone else, on 30-Nov-2004 at 19:06 you (Code 2) wrote: ASK Except for the nigeria connection scam mails of which I get at least two a ASK day on three accounts ATM. K9 repeatedly misses those. *sigh* They're troublesome for my filter, too. I figure it's because except for spam words like Nigeria, Togo and Central African Republic, the text is generally found in the good word database. Yes, but its odd that PopFile always successfully identified them, while I've been training K9 for 20 days or something and it still misses them... The blacklist feature now helps me filter these more effectively. I just activated K9's DNS blacklist, hope it helps... I'm tempted to improve my english cursing and swearing skills on those guys a lot, really. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using TB! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 I must say that I find television very educational. The minute somebody turns it on, I go to the library and read a book. -- Groucho Marx Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: K9 spam filter
Hello Thorvald Neumann everyone else,
on 30-Nov-2004 at 19:00 you (Thorvald Neumann) wrote:
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`5`0`X-Text-Classification:\20junk\0D\0A}
You altered the default header from spam to junk. Unless Pat did that,
it won't work for her. :-)
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Re: K9 spam filter
ON Tuesday, November 30, 2004, 5:58:20 PM, you wrote: ASK Except for the nigeria connection scam mails of which I get at least two a ASK day on three accounts ATM. K9 repeatedly misses those. *sigh* BayesFilter catches these for me nicely. It is weak on other mails though :( -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- As you walk down the fairway of life you must smell the roses, for you only get to play one round. -Ben Hogan Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: K9 spam filter
Hæ! Tuesday, November 30, 2004, 19:24, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: You altered the default header from spam to junk. Unless Pat did that, it won't work for her. :-) Ah, yes. I thought my old PopFile-filters would work with K9 when I just changed the header-addition. And guess what, the filters work... ;) -- Kveðja, Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ | The Bat! v3.0.2.8 Professional K9 v1.28 | Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) +---+ | Get Firefox - Take back the web! | | http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesamp;id=22411amp;t=1 | +---+ Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: K9 spam filter
ON Tuesday, November 30, 2004, 5:58:20 PM, you wrote: ASK Except for the nigeria connection scam mails of which I get at least two a ASK day on three accounts ATM. K9 repeatedly misses those. *sigh* Hi Alexander, I usually alert the company which email is being abused by sending a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have collect so friendly thank you´s like this one today: ASK Dear Sir/Madam, ASK ASK Thank you for bringing a 419 Internet abuser to our attention. ASK ASK We have identified the user, locked the mailbox and rendered the account unusable. ASK ASK We would like to take this opportunity to thank you once again for bringing ASK this to our attention and for helping us to address this serious issue. ASK ASK Yours faithfully ASK Tiscali Abuse Team ASK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Taking action is always better then sitting still and taking the punches :) -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- What's the point of washing off your ball when teeing off on a water hole? Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: K9 spam filter
Hello Gerard everyone else, on 30-Nov-2004 at 19:44 you (Gerard) wrote: ASK Except for the nigeria connection scam mails of which I get at least two a ASK day on three accounts ATM. K9 repeatedly misses those. *sigh* BayesFilter catches these for me nicely. It is weak on other mails though :( It may depend on how you handle whitelisted mails. I added the TB lists (and a couple of other english lists) to the whitelist and had the whitelisted messages added to the ham database (I thought it would be good to let the ham database), but now it seems to me it is better to let the whitelisted mails not go to the database since the english language 419 mails get thru, maybe there'se too little difference... -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using TB! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 An optimist thinks that this is the best possible world. A pessimist fears that this is true. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: K9 spam filter
ON Tuesday, November 30, 2004, 8:35:09 PM, you wrote: ASK now it seems to me it is better to let the ASK whitelisted mails not go to the database since the english language 419 ASK mails get thru, maybe there'se too little difference... That is how I have set it up. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- By the time a man can afford to lose a golf ball, he can't hit it that far. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: K9 spam filter
Hello P.Johnson everyone else, on 30-Nov-2004 at 18:51 you (P.Johnson) wrote: ASK Is it a common filter? Maybe you've just forgotten to share it with your ASK accounts. I've set up two separate filters for the two accounts, using two slightly different conditions. And, neither works consistently. It seems strange that some mail classified as spam would be moved to the correct folder, and others also marked would not be moved by the filter. I've configured K9 to *not* add the spam percentage count to the header so that it'll simply contain spam. IIRC the default setting is to include that counter so the header is spam[89] or something. Maybe thats the problem. Thanks for your help! Now, if it would only work! :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using TB! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 The real danger is not that computers will begin to think like men, but that men will begin to think like computers. -- Sydney J. Harris Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: K9 spam filter
Hello Gerard, On Tuesday, November 30, 2004 at 19:44:25 GMT +0100 (which was 19:44:25 where I live), Gerard wrote and made these valuable points on the subject of K9 spam filter: G ON Tuesday, November 30, 2004, 5:58:20 PM, you wrote: ASK Except for the nigeria connection scam mails of which I get at least two a ASK day on three accounts ATM. K9 repeatedly misses those. *sigh* G BayesFilter catches these for me nicely. G It is weak on other mails though :( That's why I stopped using a Bayes based filter. The spammers are getting very smart and know their ways to cheat these filters. I installed a challenge/response based spam filter and not a single spam mail got to my inbox since then (and that without training it ;-) ). -- Best regards, Dick ___ The older you get, the better you realize you were. Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: K9 spam filter
On Tuesday, November 30, 2004, 22:02:04, Dick H. wrote: That's why I stopped using a Bayes based filter. The spammers are getting very smart and know their ways to cheat these filters. I installed a challenge/response based spam filter and not a single spam mail got to my inbox since then (and that without training it ;-) ). No problems with bayesian filters here - OTOH, I ignore challenges from challenge-response systems, and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one. Nothing is more annoying than somebody asking you for help, and then, when you answer him, getting Please reply to this message to confirm or Click this link. (Well, there may be another, even more annoying thing - that is C/R systems that autosubscribe themselves to mailing lists, or C/R that challenges every poster to a mailing list). -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ A computer makes as many mistakes in two seconds as 20 men working 20 years. -- Horowitz's Rule Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: K9 spam filter
Hello Jernej, On Tuesday, November 30, 2004 at 22:18:06 GMT +0100 (which was 22:18:06 where I live), Jernej Simoncic wrote and made these valuable points on the subject of K9 spam filter: JS On Tuesday, November 30, 2004, 22:02:04, Dick H. wrote: That's why I stopped using a Bayes based filter. The spammers are getting very smart and know their ways to cheat these filters. I installed a challenge/response based spam filter and not a single spam mail got to my inbox since then (and that without training it ;-) ). JS No problems with bayesian filters here - OTOH, I ignore challenges from JS challenge-response systems, and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one. JS Nothing is more annoying than somebody asking you for help, and then, when JS you answer him, getting Please reply to this message to confirm or Click JS this link. (Well, there may be another, even more annoying thing - that is JS C/R systems that autosubscribe themselves to mailing lists, or C/R that JS challenges every poster to a mailing list). I fully understand your objections against such a system but there are challenge-response systems and challenge-response systems. Whenever I send a message to somebody (even when it is not yet in my address book) and this persons replies to my email, his answer will end up straight in my inbox and no message is being sent first for any confirmation. As I have loaded my address book in this filter, I haven't received any complaints from my friends, etc. (they simply don't know that I have such a filter active). What I have seen is that my blacklist is growing and growing with many spam email addresses. IMHO, I'm afraid that Bayes based spamfilters will lose the battle in the long run as the spammers will figure out ways to bypass it. -- Best regards, Dick ___ My uncle just turned 75. He never married, and someone asked him if it was because he had never found the perfect woman. 'I found her,' he said. 'But she was looking for the perfect man.' Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: K9 spam filter
Hi Alexander, On Tuesday, November 30, 2004, 4:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've set up two separate filters for the two accounts, using two slightly different conditions. And, neither works consistently. It seems strange that some mail classified as spam would be moved to the correct folder, and others also marked would not be moved by the filter. ASK I've configured K9 to *not* add the spam percentage count to the header so ASK that it'll simply contain spam. ASK IIRC the default setting is to include that counter so the header is ASK spam[89] or something. Maybe thats the problem. OK, I've changed that setting and here's hoping it will help! Thanks again. -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: K9 spam filter
Hello Thorvald,
On Tuesday, November 30, 2004, 4:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
TN My filter looks like this:
TN TB! Message Filter
TN beginFilter
TN UID: [564C1620.01C4B05E.1A441C3F.7FE14B3D]
TN Name: SPAM
TN Filter: {\0D\0A\20`5`0`X-Text-Classification:\20junk\0D\0A}
TN MoveMessage folder \5C\5C\5C$JUNK$
TN MarkRead
TN SetColour 226723330
TN IsActive
TN Ignore
TN IsSendQueue
TN endFilter
TN and it works perfectly. It is the last filter in a list of *account*
TN filters.
Thank you; I will give this one a try too.
TN BTW, is there a way to let TB display the filters in a more readable
TN and accessible format?
I can't really decipher the above format, until I copy and paste into a
new filter.
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Pat
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Re[2]: K9 spam filter
Alexander, Tuesday, November 30, 2004, 9:58:20 PM, you wrote: ASK Except for the nigeria connection scam mails of which I get at least two a ASK day on three accounts ATM. K9 repeatedly misses those. *sigh* They usually get past k9 and BayesIt here also, but frankly I don't mind. Some of them are quite funny, and once in awhile I'll bite on one of them and encourage them to fax me info, call, etc. Since they're usually in Africa, the faxes cost them a bit of money, and I currently live in Uzbekistan, so the random number I give them here is going to frustrate them, since I doubt few of the scammers know Russian or Uzbek. If I can get them to waste time and money on me, maybe some other poor soul won't get taken in that week. -- Cheers, Rick Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
K9 spam filter
Hello,
I've set up K9 anti-spam and the TB filters to move spam to a junk
folder, but for some reason the filter isn't working. K9 allows you to
use the message header X-Text-Classification to identify spam for the
purpose of filtering it.
The filter is as follows:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [97E80840.01C492FE.7689AE34.682BBB08]
Name: K9\20Anti-Spam
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`7`X-Text-Classification`0`\20spam\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5Cpatnet\5C$JUNK$
IsActive
endFilter
Email marked as spam stays resolutely in the inbox. Any ideas?
Thank you in advance.
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Re: K9 spam filter
Hello P.Johnson,
Tuesday, November 30, 2004, 4:55:58 AM, you wrote:
PJ The filter is as follows:
PJ TB! Message Filter
PJ beginFilter
PJ UID: [97E80840.01C492FE.7689AE34.682BBB08]
PJ Name: K9\20Anti-Spam
PJ Filter: {\0D\0A\20`7`X-Text-Classification`0`\20spam\0D\0A}
PJ MoveMessage folder \5C\5Cpatnet\5C$JUNK$
PJ IsActive
PJ endFilter
PJ Email marked as spam stays resolutely in the inbox. Any ideas?
This one works for me:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [4A31FDE0.01C49062.236C3EE8.40D55E8C]
Name: K9\20Spam
Filter: {0\0D\0A0`5`0`X-Text-Classification:\20spam\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CMark\5CInbox\5CSpam\20Trap\20K9
DeleteFromServer
IsActive
IsSendQueue
endFilter
I already had it in the OFS.
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Mark
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Re: K9 spam filter
Hello P.Johnson, Tuesday, November 30, 2004, 4:55:58 AM, you wrote: I've set up K9 anti-spam and the TB filters to move spam to a junk folder, but for some reason the filter isn't working. K9 allows you to use the message header X-Text-Classification to identify spam for the purpose of filtering it. Just to be on the safe side - you do have defined the header field X-Text-Classification in Preferences | Messages | Message Headers? -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
