Re: Keep attachments in message bodies
Hallo Alexander, On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 02:18:45 +0400GMT (22-6-2004, 0:18 +0200, where I live), you wrote: AG Can anyone explain advantages and disadvantages of keeping attachments AG in message bodies and in specific directory? What comes first to mind is that keeping attachments in the message body costs space. MIME encoded files are a third bigger than their original, so keeping attachments in a separate directory saves space. When you're having lots of messages with big attachments, your message base files grow a lot and that might slow TB down. Those are the major disadvantages with inline attachments. The advantages of storing attachments in-line are: When you're moving messages from account to account the attachments stay with the message. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Keep attachments in message bodies
Hello, Samson! S - vice versa: i don't think the above method is gonna work on the S other direction (or it does, my impression of failure was just caused S by the bug in the older version). anyway, use tools - backup, S there is an option to allow you to store external files in msg bodies. S then restore it. I've done it! (Backup-Restore): was: 136 Mb, now: 78! Thanks a lot! S no matter what you do, backup the entire mail directory beforehand to S avoid any data loss. such changes to large amount of data might be S very risky. It's very useful, I did this way. It helped! Thanks to everyone! -- Best regards, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Alexander Gladilin ICQ #154518000 Powered by TheBat! v2.11.04 Wednesday, June 23, 2004 1:19:52 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Keep attachments in message bodies
Hello, Samson! S - it seems the file size is always wrong when you receive a msg with S attachment. there is always a couple of hundred byte deviation or so S for a 10K file. If you keep attachment separatly, column size shows the size of a message _without attachment_ at all! :) -- Best regards, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Alexander Gladilin ICQ #154518000 Powered by TheBat! v2.11.04 Wednesday, June 23, 2004 1:25:27 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Keep attachments in message bodies
Hello, TBudl! Can anyone explain advantages and disadvantages of keeping attachments in message bodies and in specific directory? -- Best regards, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Alexander Gladilin ICQ #154518000 Powered by TheBat! v2.11.04 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 2:17:29 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keep attachments in message bodies
Hello Alexander, On Monday, June 21, 2004, at 02:18:45[GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which was 15:18 where I live) Alexander wrote: Alexander Can anyone explain advantages and disadvantages of keeping attachments Alexander in message bodies and in specific directory? I have a little in my mind: *in-dir (pro) you can view all attachments easily. *in-dir (con) when move msg with attachment between folders, there will probably generate duplicated attachment in the specific dir. (in old version - how old? i don't remember - I don't test the latest versions) *in-body (pro) reverse what in-dir(con) says *in-body (con) reverse what in-dir(pro) says -- Best regards, TB! 2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Keep attachments in message bodies
Hello, Bobi! BJ I have a little in my mind: Thanks! And what do you use? Do you know any bugs, associated with keeping in message bodies? I use external dir. and know some bugs with it :( So I want to change my method. -- Best regards, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Alexander Gladilin ICQ #154518000 Powered by TheBat! v2.11.04 Tuesday, June 22, 2004 2:47:39 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Keep attachments in message bodies
Hello Alexander, On Monday, June 21, 2004, at 02:51:09[GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which was 15:51 where I live) Alexander wrote: Alexander Thanks! And what do you use? Do you know any bugs, associated with Alexander keeping in message bodies? I use external dir. and know some bugs with Alexander it :( So I want to change my method. I'm happy with and using attach-in-msg-body, and I don't run across any bug involving that. -- Best regards, Bobi Jam TB! 2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keep attachments in message bodies
Hello Alexander! On Monday, June 21, 2004, 5:51 PM, you wrote: AG Thanks! And what do you use? Do you know any bugs, associated with AG keeping in message bodies? I use external dir. and know some bugs with AG it :( So I want to change my method. I kept my attachments in the message bodies for almost two years and had no problems at all. Then my bat.tmp files became too many and I could not open the attachments. I have since emptied them and all attachments open just fine. I'm now keeping them with the external ATTACH file. But I plan to go back to my former method. Whichever you choose to do, the advice of an amateur bat user--myself--is to empty all temp folders regularly. :) -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keep attachments in message bodies
Can anyone explain advantages and disadvantages of keeping attachments in message bodies and in specific directory? some earlier versions had a bug that when you move a msg to another account, the attachements were not moved. i've been using store in msg body for more than 1 year since i realized the above bug, though it might have been fixed, i never tried store separately again. the pro is: - it *guarantees* the attachment to move with your msg - in the past there were times i received attachments whose filenames are foreign characters, which generated some funny looking file name on my hard drive, some even failed to open due to this reason. use in body solution, the attachment is temporarily stored to the working directory with a 8-digit hex filename only when it is opened, so you never run into the above problem. - better/easier for archive. with store separately, attachment files lose their original folder/directory and are all put in the account/attach directory. cons: - i feel it is slower to navigate in the folder if all attachments are stored in msg body. not very significantly but noticeable. - when you move/copy msgs to another folder/account, it is much slower than store separately. - it seems the file size is always wrong when you receive a msg with attachment. there is always a couple of hundred byte deviation or so for a 10K file. save it to the disk and you'll see the actual size is different than what you see in msg window side pane (i'm sure i'm looking at the file size field, not size on disk field). but this doesn't really affect my work/life at all. and, like other people already noted, it sounds more risky to store all files in one big msg base, but actually i never saw any file corruption etc and now my msg base is about 1GB. so it is pretty solid. in case you want to switch among the 2 different ways: - from in body to separately: i cannot remember exactly, but i think creating another account, then change the setting to separately, and dragdrop all msgs from old account to the new one, it should finish this job. - vice versa: i don't think the above method is gonna work on the other direction (or it does, my impression of failure was just caused by the bug in the older version). anyway, use tools - backup, there is an option to allow you to store external files in msg bodies. then restore it. no matter what you do, backup the entire mail directory beforehand to avoid any data loss. such changes to large amount of data might be very risky. -- Samson, using Agent newsreader Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
