Re: Question About Killing Dupes
Hello Chris, On Tue, 21 May 2002 23:28:33 -0500 GMT (22/05/02, 11:28 +0700 GMT), Chris Montgomery wrote: CM I'm wondering how the kill dupes in folders works, i.e., what criteria CM does TB use to distinguish dupe files. AFAIK message ID plus creation date. CM Once messages are killed by removing dupes, where do they go - to CM trash or are they just wiped? I don't know. CM I'm concerned that I might have lost lots of messages that TB CM thought were dupes but they really weren't. If this helps yu: nobody has ever complained that TB did that. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Half the people you know are below average. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60k under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Question About Killing Dupes
Howdy, I'm wondering how the kill dupes in folders works, i.e., what criteria does TB use to distinguish dupe files. I just ran the Kill Dupes in All Folders and it got rid of over 2,800 messages, which seems kind of high (I had over 50k messages that I imported from Outlook the other day). Once messages are killed by removing dupes, where do they go - to trash or are they just wiped? I'm concerned that I might have lost lots of messages that TB thought were dupes but they really weren't. Cheers. -- Chris Montgomery[EMAIL PROTECTED] Airtight Web Services http://www.airtightweb.com Web Development, Web Project Management, Software Sales 210-490-3249/888-745-7603 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[3]: Killing dupes
Hello David, Friday, April 13, 2001, 8:11:21 PM, you wrote: Which leads me to a question: how *is* it possible to have same message-ID on several messages?! I'm dumbstruck! There are even messages with no IDs at all. Recently I imported messages from Eudora 3, several of which were duplicates but TB! was unable to kill dupes as they had no IDs. -- Best regards, jlaikanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Killing dupes
On 13-04-2001 at 17:51, Pete P kindly wrote: Hello Karin, KS Have you tried to browse that particular folder for deleted KS messages? You might be able to salvage them that way... Well, I've got most of them back with the list-moderator's help so this is not as disasterous (is that a real word?!) as it first seemed. "disastrous" is the correct word ;-) Now it seems to me that the message-ID isn't a very reliable way to determine which messages are duplicates... KS It is the only reliable way. But there is no way that TB can KS foresee that somebody will, agains all RFCs, start using the KS same message-ID over and over again... Which leads me to a question: how *is* it possible to have same message-ID on several messages?! I'm dumbstruck! Somebody on this list - I think it was sev - set all his mail to have the same message-ID too, until he was warned of the consequences. Sev, can you explain how you did it? - K - -- Laughter is the shortest distance between two people. - Victor Borge -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Killing dupes
Hello TBUDL! A while back I did something that I shouldn't have done - I killed dupes in a certain folder I have set up for a mailing list. I didn't even stop to hesitate when the program said it was going to kill 60(!) duplicates... I just clicked OK... :-( How stupid of me. What happened was that I lost sixty messages that were NOT duplicates, all from same person. From his later messages I have discovered that all his messages have the same message-ID!! It seems that either his computer or some program(s) can't manage the y2k so he has set the date permanently to January 1st, 1980. OK, that's fine but I wouldn't even have dreamed that that should make the message-IDs exactly the same!! Actually, I don't have any question... I just wanted to share this... It would have been nice if TB! had told me *what* were the messages it was about to kill... showing the basic "from" and "subject" info for instance. Now it seems to me that the message-ID isn't a very reliable way to determine which messages are duplicates... but then again, what is? -- Best regards, Pete Using The Bat! v1.51 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Killing dupes
On 13-04-2001 at 15:54, Pete P kindly wrote: What happened was that I lost sixty messages that were NOT duplicates, all from same person. From his later messages I have discovered that all his messages have the same message-ID!! (..) That is a serious error on his part. Message-IDs are *meant* to be unique. It would have been nice if TB! had told me *what* were the messages it was about to kill... showing the basic "from" and "subject" info for instance. Would be a nice option, indeed. Have you tried to browse that particular folder for deleted messages? You might be able to salvage them that way... Now it seems to me that the message-ID isn't a very reliable way to determine which messages are duplicates... It is the only reliable way. But there is no way that TB can foresee that somebody will, agains all RFCs, start using the same message-ID over and over again... - K - -- Biographies rely on butch criteria: a life is plotted according to the markers of death, marriage, professional appointment, murder and military campaigns. - Alain de Botton: Kiss Tell -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Killing dupes
Hello Karin, Friday, April 13, 2001, 5:25:56 PM, you wrote: KS Have you tried to browse that particular folder for deleted KS messages? You might be able to salvage them that way... Well, I've got most of them back with the list-moderator's help so this is not as disasterous (is that a real word?!) as it first seemed. Now it seems to me that the message-ID isn't a very reliable way to determine which messages are duplicates... KS It is the only reliable way. But there is no way that TB can KS foresee that somebody will, agains all RFCs, start using the KS same message-ID over and over again... Which leads me to a question: how *is* it possible to have same message-ID on several messages?! I'm dumbstruck! "Start using the same message-ID..."? How? Thanks, Karin, for response. -- Best regards, Pete Using The Bat! v1.51 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Killing dupes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Pete On 13 April 2001 at 18:51:11 +0300 (which was 16:51 where I live) Pete P wrote Which leads me to a question: how *is* it possible to have same message-ID on several messages?! I'm dumbstruck! Check out XRay. I have seen it this list. Do a search for 4775736E617769.4368656E@home in the header and you will find a few and then search for [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 6 march follow that thread for an explanation. - -- BBFN, ___ David | MUA :- The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2000 Server 5.0.2195 SP1 | International | | And let's see ... what to post in return ... `SEX' Taglines?| -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt (Build 04/01) Comment: PGP Signed, sealed, delivered. iQA/AwUBOtclL/mK8eZlD0U0EQJHfgCg5jjbw52INSFeqw8cgS/eaJQl9doAn1jx lFFqitQQ8VYvL+wVpnbjstfg =jP7a -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Killing dupes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Pete! On Friday, April 13, 2001 at 3:54:49 PM you wrote: How stupid of me. It would have been nice if TB! had told me *what* were the messages it was about to kill... showing the basic "from" and "subject" info for instance. Now it seems to me that the message-ID isn't a very reliable way to determine which messages are duplicates... but then again, what is? In my experience there is not much to do about any kinds of mistakes. You see, any way to ease work (= automating it) gives way to new failure. That's why I usually go through my folders by hand every few weeks - I know, not really feasible if you have a very big message base. But I don't keep most of the messages I get. So, I agree, it would be a nice option, but will surely not cure this kind of "stupidity"*, to borrow your word . ;-) *And I have a great share in those. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/3 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Die Trunkenheit vermehrt schn zwei schne Dinge - Mut und Liebe. (Jean Paul) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOtciuvTo1oA8g8dLEQIXwgCdE4tljWwYV9vLwp3HmCwt/7G5uYEAoOHY Is2k1Ec5mmebhaPeNI7G6MT8 =Pl5m -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Killing dupes question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 13 Jan 2001 16:10:44 -0800, Susanne wrote these words of wisdom: S I am on several mailing lists that receive quite a few crossposts S with the same content and subject line, but since they are in S separate mails and different folders, they don't get recognized as S dupes. S Is there an easy way to delete the duplicates without having to S go at it manually every day? AFAIK, you can't kill dupes if they reside in separate folders. I'm afraid you're stuck with doing it manually. - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ __ TB! v1.49b | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender and message authentication. iQA/AwUBOmH+91fJ62ArBxfiEQL7rwCgnbQ//muqwkVWLXLl1mspiHKELb0An05p TsDdXwgpaZqORakPIzU60K0R =zA82 -END PGP SIGNATURE- . -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Killing dupes question
Hello A. others on TBUDL following this thread, Sunday, January 14, 2001, you stated regarding : S I am on several mailing lists that receive quite a few S crossposts with the same content and subject line, but since S they are in separate mails and different folders, they don't get S recognized as dupes. S Is there an easy way to delete the duplicates without having to S go at it manually every day? There is a way that works for me, but not all of the time. That is, it works with some but not other duplicate mail sources. ACM AFAIK, you can't kill dupes if they reside in separate folders. True, but - all you have to do is filter both to the same folder. Then hit alt+f+k and see what happens. ( As stated above, this works perfectly for me with some lists but not others). ACM I'm afraid you're stuck with doing it manually. If that proves to be so in some of the cases, it's still going to be much easier to delete if you've got them in the same folder. If after running kill dupes you still have duplicates, just select the subject column and decide which of them you want to eliminate. Of course you'll have to empty the trash folder regularly or have it set to clear on closing. Douglas. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Killing dupes question
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Sunday, January 14, 2001, Susanne wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] about Killing dupes question: S I am on several mailing lists that receive quite a few crossposts S with the same content and subject line, but since they are in S separate mails and different folders, they don't get recognized S as dupes. Those are not dupes, those are different messages with identical content. S Is there an easy way to delete the duplicates without having to S go at it manually every day? For egroups conferences I have a filter Strings LocationPresence --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]Recipient Yes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kludges Yes to catch a message which came to one list and also addressed to another. This rule has a number of alternative sets and it deletes the message, leaving a copy only at the list which I selected as primary. -- Best regards, Oleg Zalyalov. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.49 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Killing dupes question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On January 13, 2001, at 4:10:44 PM, Susanne Wrote: S Is there an easy way to delete the duplicates without having to S go at it manually every day? If I understand the feature correctly, "Kill Dupes" works on message ID's so it will not affect those other cross-posted messages, leaving you to do so manually. If I'm wrong, I'm sure those in the know will step in. ;o) Nick N.J. Andriash [ TB! v1.49c | PGP 7.0.3 | Win 98 SE ] Vancouver, B.C. Canada | PGP Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0.1 Comment: Join PGP-Basics: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBOmDu5MUChHR7o/3OEQKaQwCg4s6Pc7AzZdDaUkEF2+eEfXSm0rAAoLqp cZeRhDkMgY3Mwa0JapPDOm4E =MsRy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
bug report - killing dupes doesn't effect Mail Ticker
Hello The Bat! developers, I'm using The Bat! Version 1.48f The bug description: After running 'Killing dupes in all folders', the eliminated duplicate messages fail to disappear from Mail Ticker. Cheers, SyP -- "I've taken a vow of poverty. To annoy me, send money." -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Recipients window (was: Re: Creating a Mailing List ? Killing Dupes)
Hi Januk, On Mon, 3 Apr 2000 22:16:27 -0700GMT (04/04/2000, 13:16 +0800GMT), Januk Aggarwal wrote: [...] JA Speaking about Netscape messenger, the one thing I miss from that JA mailer was in the message editor. The way it handled To,Cc, and Bcc JA fields was second to none. The way Netscape has it, you enter one JA address per line, and you can specify if it is for the To, CC or BCC JA field at anytime. I think this is the only feature I miss from that JA program. It only really makes a difference if you have a long list of JA people to whom you're sending the message. However, I suppose this JA doesn't really fit TB's WYSIWYG concept. 1.) I liked this feature too. And you could change a TO recipient to be a CC or BCC recipient as an afterthought. In TB, you have to delete him from the TO list and then recreate the entry for CC, or CP. 2.) I would like a window, instead of just a line, in TB showing the recipients of received mails as well. This one line going out of the screen, or the confusion when hitting shft-crtl-K, is not nice. PMMail shows the recipients nicely. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.41 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Creating a Mailing List ? Killing Dupes
Hello Januk, Monday, April 03, 2000, 11:16:27 PM, you wrote: JA When you hit the delete key, the text is still in your message JA database. Compress gets rid of that junk. Compress does not apply a compression algorithm then. JA Correct. I think most mailers that have this type of feature work JA similarly. I know this is how Netscape Messenger used to work. JA Speaking about Netscape messenger, the one thing I miss from that JA mailer was in the message editor. The way it handled To,Cc, and Bcc JA fields was second to none. The way Netscape has it, you enter one JA address per line, and you can specify if it is for the To, CC or BCC JA field at anytime. Right. Each line gives you a menu of choices when you click on the To: or whatever it is. That's simple and convenient. JA I think this is the only feature I miss from that program. There are other things: The message search app lets you find multiple strings at once, while TB!'s lets you search for one string in several places. Also, it's way of filing messages in different folders is very simple and faster. Then too, you can specify you inbox location, and change it. But you can't give all the attributes to your inbox that TB lets you do. While you can get Navigator as a standalone program, Messenger only comes with the bloated Communicator, and you can't legally get the 128 bit strong encryption with it if you're out of the US or Canada. a,d the last version I have of it (4.05) was one account at a time. Calypso's ability to select multiple signatures is nice also, although I guess TB! can do that via macros (more coded commands). Douglas -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Creating a Mailing List ? Killing Dupes
Hello Januk, Saturday, April 01, 2000, 11:28:08 PM, you wrote: JA Hello Douglas, JA Did I accidentally include your address in the To: field? Correct. JA I shouldn't have, but if I did, I do apologize. No need to. I would have gotten it anyway, just like all of TBUDL since November. This may or not be what you want to do (but I think TB - or your server - won't let you send a name in the to box without an email address also) but: JA So long as you have an address in the BCC: field TB will send your JA message without complaining. OK JA Someone (probably Alexander or Steve) had posted the appropriate JA section of the RFCs that covers this topic. The Archives should JA hold that info. "The Name of the Mailing List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] might serve your purpose. Also: you could make or open an account under the name of the list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or whatever domain you arrange to use. JA I like your idea, "The Name of the Mailing List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] is JA a good way to let the recipient know that it is a mailing list, and JA if they hit reply, there should be no problems. Just note that there JA probably shouldn't be two signs. I'm guessing it was a typo. :) Correct again. Then you could do a kill filter for the copy coming back if you really want to. Or, if you're a member of the list yourself, a periodic "Killing Dupes" (from the Folder Menu) is all it takes. JA Plus the advantage of getting a copy back is that you can check to JA make sure everything went out ok. With TB this isn't a very big deal, JA unless you are sending out attachments. Most of my TB! templates insert my address in the bcc box, so I don't have to look for them in sent. I think I also had a copy filtered to a self bbc folder on one account, which for some reason prevents it from being placed in sent. What I really want is the virtual folder / column feature that TB!2 is said to have. I want to see it all together as it comes in, without having to treat it all as one one account. That was the part of Calypso that I did like, along with being able to pause an account (not have it download with the rest) by write clicking on it, it's off line mode was good also, and being able to send a single message from the outbox by right clicking on it. TB! will send all of them I believe, unless you open it first. Otherwise though, Calypso sucks - their tech support is a nightmare and the Calypso users list receives a message every 4 months. The TB! multi-lingual message editor is so far above Calypso's that there's no comparison. **Speaking of "Killing Dupes"**: I was doing that a moment ago and hit the next one down the list - "Purge and Compress". What does that do? JA The Purge part goes through and gets rid of excess messages. If you JA don't have either "Keep messages in database for xx(days)" or JA "Maximum number of messages" then Purge does nothing. Then it did nothing. JA When you hit the delete key, the text is still in your message JA database. Compress gets rid of that junk. Compress does not apply a compression algorithm then. Thanks for the clear explanations, Januk. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Creating a Mailing List ? Killing Dupes
Hello Douglas, On Monday, April 03, 2000 at 22:41:45 GMT -0600 (which was 8:41 PM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: JA The Purge part goes through and gets rid of excess messages. If you JA don't have either "Keep messages in database for xx(days)" or JA "Maximum number of messages" then Purge does nothing. Then it did nothing. I should point out, Purge is really PurgeCompress, but given the definition of compress, I guess it is somewhat redundant. JA When you hit the delete key, the text is still in your message JA database. Compress gets rid of that junk. Compress does not apply a compression algorithm then. Correct. I think most mailers that have this type of feature work similarly. I know this is how Netscape Messenger used to work. Speaking about Netscape messenger, the one thing I miss from that mailer was in the message editor. The way it handled To,Cc, and Bcc fields was second to none. The way Netscape has it, you enter one address per line, and you can specify if it is for the To, CC or BCC field at anytime. I think this is the only feature I miss from that program. It only really makes a difference if you have a long list of people to whom you're sending the message. However, I suppose this doesn't really fit TB's WYSIWYG concept. -- Thanks for writing Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.42 Beta/10 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Creating a Mailing List ? Killing Dupes
Hello Woofie, I haven't been following this thread but one of Januk's reply to you was directed to me and then I saw this one: This may or not be what you want to do (but I think TB - or your server - won't let you send a name in the to box without an email address also) but: "The Name of the Mailing List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] might serve your purpose. Also: you could make or open an account under the name of the list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or whatever domain you arrange to use. Then you could do a kill filter for the copy coming back if you really want to. Or, if you're a member of the list yourself, a periodic "Killing Dupes" (from the Folder Menu) is all it takes. **Speaking of "Killing Dupes"**: I was doing that a moment ago and hit the next one down the list - "Purge and Compress". What does that do? I looked in "Trash" but saw nothing from that folder. If it means what it sounds like it means, there ought to be a confirmation required. TB! told me 0% space was saved so that's not important, although as I rule I compress nothing - except when need to .zip or .rar something. Douglas Friday, March 31, 2000, 10:02:25 PM, you wrote: W Howdy Januk, W Saturday, April 01, 2000, 9:36:11 AM, you wrote: JA Hello Woofie, JA On Friday, March 31, 2000 at 09:30:05 GMT +0800 (which was 5:30 PM JA where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: Thanks Leif..that page explains how to set up a discussion list, but not how to set up an ordinary mailing list where you want the recipients' names suppressed and just the name of the list displayed. The only way I have been able to do it is to put my own address in the TO line and put everyone else's in the BCC section. This is not the perfect solution, however, as I do not want an extra copy coming back to myself. JA Have you tried sending out a message with nothing in the To: line, JA but at least one address in the BCC line? It works for me. W Thanks Januk:) W That's what I used to do, but it caused a lot of probs for my W recipients, when they did a reply All W I want my recipients to see that the email they receive from me is W a multiple posting to a list of people whose email addies have been W suppressed. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Creating a Mailing List ? Killing Dupes
Hello Douglas, On Saturday, April 01, 2000 at 20:34:00 GMT -0600 (which was 6:34 PM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: I haven't been following this thread but one of Januk's reply to you was directed to me and then I saw this one: I'm not sure I understand, how was my message directed to you? Did I accidentally include your address in the To: field? I shouldn't have, but if I did, I do apologize. This may or not be what you want to do (but I think TB - or your server - won't let you send a name in the to box without an email address also) but: So long as you have an address in the BCC: field TB will send your message without complaining. Someone (probably Alexander or Steve) had posted the appropriate section of the RFCs that covers this topic. The Archives should hold that info. "The Name of the Mailing List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] might serve your purpose. Also: you could make or open an account under the name of the list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or whatever domain you arrange to use. I like your idea, "The Name of the Mailing List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a good way to let the recipient know that it is a mailing list, and if they hit reply, there should be no problems. Just note that there probably shouldn't be two signs. I'm guessing it was a typo. :) Then you could do a kill filter for the copy coming back if you really want to. Or, if you're a member of the list yourself, a periodic "Killing Dupes" (from the Folder Menu) is all it takes. Plus the advantage of getting a copy back is that you can check to make sure everything went out ok. With TB this isn't a very big deal, unless you are sending out attachments. **Speaking of "Killing Dupes"**: I was doing that a moment ago and hit the next one down the list - "Purge and Compress". What does that do? The Purge part goes through and gets rid of excess messages. If you don't have either "Keep messages in database for xx(days)" or "Maximum number of messages" then Purge does nothing. When you hit the delete key, the text is still in your message database. Compress gets rid of that junk. -- Thanks for writing Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.42 Beta/10 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
