Re: M$ Exchange Replacement
On Thursday, April 18, 2002, at 3:09:19 PM, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to Shahar about: M$ Exchange Replacement Here's my question: What would be the best configuration for the install? I would like all the mailboxes to be stored on the server for backup purposes and I'd like some employees to be able to share a mailbox (tech support, that sort of thing). Michael, That's remind me something. About 4-5 years ago, one of our customers came and ask for a low cost email system. We gave him this solution: Pegasus mail and Mercury. I don't remember the exact configuration but what I do remember is that this customer had about 400 computers in one LAN. If you need more info about this solution I can make some phone calls and try to have it. Thank you for writing. Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
M$ Exchange Replacement
I was at a client's site yesterday and we were discussing the costs and merits of upgrading their servers. After already receiving the green light to proceed an idea hit me. 90% of the upgrade was due to Exchange (long story), so why not just use The Bat! instead? I told the client to wait a day or so until I thought about it some more. Here's the layout: The client has about 15 workstations/users all using exchange. None of them use the PIM features. They simply use it for e-mail. So, TB seems perfect. Here's my question: What would be the best configuration for the install? I would like all the mailboxes to be stored on the server for backup purposes and I'd like some employees to be able to share a mailbox (tech support, that sort of thing). They are using TrendMicro's OfficeScan for virus protection (although I don't think there's a plugin yet for that) Anyway, what would be your recommendation on how best to configure this install? Michael T. Ashby Consultant The Ashby Group http://www.ashbygroup.net mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Winamp Is Currently Playing: Nothing Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: M$ Exchange Replacement
18 April 2002, 13:09, you wrote: Here's my question: What would be the best configuration for the install? I would like all the mailboxes to be stored on the server for backup purposes and I'd like some employees to be able to share a mailbox (tech support, that sort of thing). They are using TrendMicro's OfficeScan for virus protection (although I don't think there's a plugin yet for that) Anyway, what would be your recommendation on how best to configure this install? And how much of your fee are you prepared to share for this information, Michael? ;-) -- Clive Taylor Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: M$ Exchange Replacement
I'm familiar with Pegasus, but I really like TB and would like to use it as part of the solutions. Thank you for the suggestion though. Michael T. Ashby Consultant The Ashby Group http://www.ashbygroup.net mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thursday, April 18, 2002, 7:21:10 AM, you wrote: S On Thursday, April 18, 2002, at 3:09:19 PM, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to Shahar about: S M$ Exchange Replacement Here's my question: What would be the best configuration for the install? I would like all the mailboxes to be stored on the server for backup purposes and I'd like some employees to be able to share a mailbox (tech support, that sort of thing). S Michael, S That's remind me something. S About 4-5 years ago, one of our customers came and ask for a low cost email S system. S We gave him this solution: S Pegasus mail and Mercury. S I don't remember the exact configuration but what I do remember is S that this customer had about 400 computers in one LAN. S If you need more info about this solution I can make some phone calls S and try to have it. S Thank you for writing. S S Current Ver: 1.60c S FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com S Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] S Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com S Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] S TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: M$ Exchange Replacement
Hello Michael, I'm familiar with Pegasus, but I really like TB and would like to use it as part of the solutions. Thank you for the suggestion though. You don't need Pegasus. You can have a very nice setup with Mercury/32 as a server (it's free, BTW) and The Bat! as e-mail clients. This is what I use. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: M$ Exchange Replacement
Point taken Clive. I turned to the list because I figured there were others that had gone through something similar and could offer some insight. This list has proved very helpful in the past and is a fantastic resource. Sorry if the post was inappropriate. Michael T. Ashby Consultant The Ashby Group http://www.ashbygroup.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === Thursday, April 18, 2002, 7:32:58 AM, you wrote: CT 18 April 2002, 13:09, you wrote: Here's my question: What would be the best configuration for the install? I would like all the mailboxes to be stored on the server for backup purposes and I'd like some employees to be able to share a mailbox (tech support, that sort of thing). They are using TrendMicro's OfficeScan for virus protection (although I don't think there's a plugin yet for that) Anyway, what would be your recommendation on how best to configure this install? CT And how much of your fee are you prepared to share for this CT information, Michael? ;-) Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: M$ Exchange Replacement
Hi Michael, On Thursday, April 18, 2002 at 08:39:29 [GMT -0500], you wrote: MTA This list has proved very helpful in the past and is a fantastic MTA resource. MTA Sorry if the post was inappropriate. I don't think that this is the wrong place to ask. I think, I would prefer IMAP for the task (especially for mail stored on the server). Just get a small linux box, set up exim (or any other decent MTA) and possibly fetchmail and an imapd and you are good to go. The only problem with this setup is TB's IMAP implementation. :-( So, in that case I'd probably prefer another MUA. Sad but true. -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.60d on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 |Lars Geiger | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: M$ Exchange Replacement
Hi Peter, On Thursday, April 18, 2002 at 19:39:45 [GMT +0200], you wrote: PP but there're cheaper and better SMTP/POP3-servers out there than PP MS-Exchange :-) PP Mercury (as we've read), MDaemon, ArGoSoft ... and for sure several PP other Windows Mail-Servers. There's another one, XMail from www.xmailserver.com. It offers a complete MTA and POP3/SMTP/IMAP server in one package. I don't use it myself, I only looked into the documentation some weeks ago and it looked really nice. There are a lot of people who recommend this one. And it's free (GPL), running on Linux, WindowsNT, Solaris and FreeBSD. -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.60d on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 |Lars Geiger | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: M$ Exchange Replacement
Thanks to everyone for your feedback. It's been very helpful. I'm actually shying away from having a mail server on the server. Everything that they do is POP3 based and they don't have the typical corporate mentality regarding e-mail. I'm thinking that simpler is better, having been the Exchange route with them already. Prior to saying we could do this, I had spoken with the person that had first turned me on to TB and his firm is setup in the same manner. With the mailboxes stored on the server, then more than one person can access the mailbox at a time and everything is backed up nightly - to me it sounds like an ideal setup for this client. Unless someone thinks this is foolish. :) Michael T. Ashby Consultant The Ashby Group http://www.ashbygroup.net mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thursday, April 18, 2002, 12:39:45 PM, you wrote: PP Hello Miguel, PP On Thursday, April 18, 2002 at 3:34:34 PM you wrote in PP [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): I'm familiar with Pegasus, but I really like TB and would like to use it as part of the solutions. Thank you for the suggestion though. MAU You don't need Pegasus. You can have a very nice setup with Mercury/32 MAU as a server (it's free, BTW) and The Bat! as e-mail clients. This is MAU what I use. PP And this is what I'd suggest too ... not Mercury in any case, I don't know PP this software so I can't recommend it, but a 'real' Mail-Server plus TB!. PP Server capabilities of TB! are limited in some matters so I wouldn't rely PP on them, but there're cheaper and better SMTP/POP3-servers out there than PP MS-Exchange :-) PP Mercury (as we've read), MDaemon, ArGoSoft ... and for sure several other PP Windows Mail-Servers. PP I've just entered PP Windows Mail-Server PP into Google and had more than enough hit. PP Tucows is another idea ... maybe you want start here PP http://thenewsmonsters.tucows.com/mailserver95.html PP having a look if there's something that fits your needs. PP TB! should be work with every SMTP POP3 enabled server software, so this PP will not matter. PP P.S.: I assume a fast and stable Linux box is out of discussion for server? PP *GGG* Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: M$ Exchange Replacement
Hello Michael, On Thursday, April 18, 2002 at 8:25:07 PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): MTA I'm actually shying away from having a mail server on the server. MTA Everything that they do is POP3 based I'm sorry to tell you: even this is a server :-) MS-Exchange offering to fetch the mail not only via LookOut but via POP3 too is nothing else but: a mail server :-) Not an 'MTA' as 'Mail Transfer Agent', this would the SMTP-capabilities of Exchange offer, but it _is_ a server :-) So if your customer can abandon the PIM functionality every cheaper mail server for Windows will do it. 1.) it will be cheaper; let the money flow to Moldavia for a mile stone of mail client *g* 2.) Let the system not always run on the corner to it's ruin by starting Exchange if this can be avoided :-) MTA Unless someone thinks this is foolish. :) As I've already said: this might work, but I've heard it _sometimes_ ain't the most stable solution running TB! in Non-TCP-server-mode. Mail loss was sight ... -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60c on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Computer programmers never die, they just get lost in the processing. Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: M$ Exchange Replacement
I understand that there is a server involved with POP3 e-mail, but that server is located off site in a server farm. I just don't see a reason to add ANOTHER server just to collect it. They aren't using the PIM features of Outlook and TB is one of the most robust e-mail client's I've found, so it seems like the perfect solution for this client. Michael T. Ashby Consultant The Ashby Group http://www.ashbygroup.net mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thursday, April 18, 2002, 2:13:32 PM, you wrote: PP Hello Michael, PP On Thursday, April 18, 2002 at 8:25:07 PM you wrote in PP [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): MTA I'm actually shying away from having a mail server on the server. MTA Everything that they do is POP3 based PP I'm sorry to tell you: even this is a server :-) PP MS-Exchange offering to fetch the mail not only via LookOut but via POP3 PP too is nothing else but: a mail server :-) Not an 'MTA' as 'Mail Transfer PP Agent', this would the SMTP-capabilities of Exchange offer, but it _is_ a PP server :-) PP So if your customer can abandon the PIM functionality every cheaper mail PP server for Windows will do it. PP 1.) it will be cheaper; let the money flow to Moldavia for a mile stone of PP mail client *g* PP 2.) Let the system not always run on the corner to it's ruin by starting PP Exchange if this can be avoided :-) MTA Unless someone thinks this is foolish. :) PP As I've already said: this might work, but I've heard it _sometimes_ ain't PP the most stable solution running TB! in Non-TCP-server-mode. Mail loss was PP sight ... Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
