Re: Marck's SpamCop filters : (

2003-11-23 Thread Kevin Coates
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Hi Marck,

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:27:12 + (3:27 PM here), Marck D Pearlstone
[MDP] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

MDP I just tested it here and it seems to work well.

I'd keep the original spam for bayesian training (via moving with your
filter) but the forwards to SpamCop in my Sent Mail folder I can do
without. Is there a way of doing this?

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Re: Marck's SpamCop filters : (

2003-11-23 Thread MAU
Hello Kevin,

 ... but the forwards to SpamCop in my Sent Mail folder I can do
 without. Is there a way of doing this?

Create an Outgoing filter that moves from Outbox to Trash messages that
include:

String: @spam.spamcop.net
Location: Recipient
Presence: yes


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Re: Marck's SpamCop filters : (

2003-11-23 Thread Kevin Coates
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Hi MAU,

On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 23:53:36 +0100 (5:53 PM here), MAU [M] wrote in
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M Create an Outgoing filter that moves from Outbox to Trash messages that
M include: 

Thank you ... I've got it under control now. ;)

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Re[2]: Marck's SpamCop filters : (

2003-11-21 Thread Antje Lehmann
Hi all,

thanks for your replies concerning my filtering problem. Well, now
that I've been trying out the filters for a couple of days I seem to
be getting closer to the real issue... won't be easy to explain, but
I'll try: 

Whenever I mark a couple of spam mails at once and hit Alt-Ctrl-S
they get submitted to SpamCop one after another as it's supposed to
be. Also, when the SpamCop autoresponders arrive, the links to process
the spam I submitted are all different, and so is the content of the
autoresponders, each one claiming to process a different spam mail.
However, as soon as I have the filter for the autoresponders process
these mails to open the several browser windows following the links
provided in each of the mails, each browser window displays the same
content, ie. each is only processing the first spam mail of all that I
had submitted. Strangely enough, this also happens when I manually
open the links provided in the SpamCop mails.

So, what happens is that I get a couple of autoresponders, the first
.bat file pops up along with the first browser window, then I have to
close the DOS window manually (I will try the solutions you suggested,
though), and only then does the next DOS window pop up, along with the
next browser window. But the contents of each browser window are the
same. Actually, it seems like these are two problems at once... that
is so annyoing... how could that have happened?

I really think SpamCop is a great thing, so I do want this to work
;-))


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Re: Marck's SpamCop filters : (

2003-11-21 Thread David Boggon

Hi Antje,

in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
at 12:55 PM (my time) on Friday 21/11/03 you wrote:


AL However, as soon as I have the filter for the autoresponders process
AL these mails to open the several browser windows following the links
AL provided in each of the mails, each browser window displays the same
AL content, ie. each is only processing the first spam mail of all that I
AL had submitted. Strangely enough, this also happens when I manually
AL open the links provided in the SpamCop mails.


This is also what happens at this end.

Now I wonder if it is a Mozilla problem rather than a TB problem ... I
think you're using Mozilla aren't you?

I have noticed this kind of behaviour elsewhere with Mozilla, though I
haven't looked into it yet.

For the sake of completion ... the issues which began this thread have
been resolved. For a reason unknown to me the filters I had set up
(both the account based one and the common folder based one) kicked in
straight away when TB started the next day. Both filters are now
working perfectly except for the problem above. I don't have a DOS
window problem.

AL I really think SpamCop is a great thing, so I do want this to work
AL ;-))

Yes and so are these filters ... thanks Marck!

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Re[2]: Marck's SpamCop filters : (

2003-11-21 Thread Antje Lehmann
Hi,

David Boggon wrote:

 This is also what happens at this end.

 Now I wonder if it is a Mozilla problem rather than a TB problem ... I
 think you're using Mozilla aren't you?

Yes, that hadn't occurred to me before, but you could be right. Then
there's not much we can do... except for changing the browser.. but
nooo, I don't want to ;-)

 For the sake of completion ... the issues which began this thread have
 been resolved. For a reason unknown to me the filters I had set up
 (both the account based one and the common folder based one) kicked in
 straight away when TB started the next day. Both filters are now
 working perfectly except for the problem above. I don't have a DOS
 window problem.

That could be a Win 98 problem, and I solved it by doing what Roelof
suggested, thanks! I'm sure the other solutions would have worked as
well, but I haven't tried them since the one I just mentioned worked
fine.

 Yes and so are these filters ... thanks Marck!

I agree!


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Re: Marck's SpamCop filters : (

2003-11-21 Thread MAU
Hello Antje,

 Whenever I mark a couple of spam mails at once and hit Alt-Ctrl-S
 they get submitted to SpamCop one after another as it's supposed to
 be. Also, when the SpamCop autoresponders arrive, the links to process
 the spam I submitted are all different, and so is the content of the
 autoresponders, each one claiming to process a different spam mail.
 However, as soon as I have the filter for the autoresponders process
 these mails to open the several browser windows following the links
 provided in each of the mails, 

I have been using Spamcop and Marck's filters for quite some time now.
Well, I should say the first of Marck's filters, the Alt-Ctrl-S one.
When I get the autoresponders I just sort the messages to an special
folder with a normal Incoming filter. Then, when I have time, and maybe
when I have 20 or more autoresponders, I view just any of them and
double click on the link to open my browser to send the reports on this
spam message. Then, and while Spamcop sees unreported spam, it will take
me to a page where I can select to report another and another spam until
I am all done. I find this method much more convenient that automatic
opening of my browser when the auto-responses are received.

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Re: Marck's SpamCop filters : (

2003-11-20 Thread Antje Lehmann
Hi,

I have put the filters into my sorting office and they seem to work
fine. However, I'm encountering one problem: Whenever the spamcop.bat
file is executed to start the browser it won't close by itself, and as
long as it is still open TB! does not work properly. I have to close
the DOS window by hand every time. Is the filter meant to be like
that?

Here's my filter:

BeginFilter
Name: spamcop autoresponder
Active: 1
Source: \Inbox
Target: \Trash
MainSet: 00spamcop.net
MainSet: 20SpamCop has accepted
Actions: faMarkRead,faExport,faExternal,faoExportOver,faoWaitCompletion
ExtCmd: C:\temp\spamcop.bat
ExtFile: C:\temp\spamcop.bat
SaveTemplate: 
\22c:\5CProgramme\5Cmozilla\5Cmozilla.EXE\22\20%-\0D\0Ahttp://%REGEXPTEXT\3D\22spamcop.net/sc\5CS*\22\0D\0Acls\0D\0A
EndFilter

Any idea how I could fix the problem? Thanks for your help!


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Re: Marck's SpamCop filters : (

2003-11-20 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Antje,

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:15:49 +0100GMT (20-11-03, 14:15 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

AL I have to close the DOS window by hand every time. Is the filter
AL meant to be like that?

Select your spamcop.bat in the windows explorer,
right mouse click,
properties,
'program' tab
check 'close window on exit'
(Keep in mind that I translate those items from a non English version.

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Re: Marck's SpamCop filters : (

2003-11-20 Thread Paul Cartwright

On Thursday, November 20, 2003, 8:15 AM, you wrote:


AL I have put the filters into my sorting office and they seem to work
AL fine. However, I'm encountering one problem: Whenever the spamcop.bat
AL file is executed to start the browser it won't close by itself, and as
AL long as it is still open TB! does not work properly. I have to close
AL the DOS window by hand every time. Is the filter meant to be like
AL that?
I have found that when I close the browser window, after I hit OK for
spamcop to take care of the spam, then the dos window closes.


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Re: Marck's SpamCop filters : (

2003-11-20 Thread George Mitchell
Antje Lehmann wrote:

 I have put the filters into my sorting office and they seem to work
 fine. However, I'm encountering one problem: Whenever the spamcop.bat
 file is executed to start the browser it won't close by itself, and as
 long as it is still open TB! does not work properly. I have to close
 the DOS window by hand every time. Is the filter meant to be like
 that?

 Any idea how I could fix the problem? Thanks for your help!

Try adding:

start 

in the save template before the call to your browser. The modified
save template would be:

start  c:\Programme\mozilla\mozilla.EXE %-
http://%REGEXPTEXT=spamcop.net/sc\S*;
cls

It seems to work in XP, I don't know about Win98.

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Marck's SpamCop filters : (

2003-11-18 Thread David Boggon

I have been trying to set up Marck's SpamCop filters to automatically
submit mail to SpamCop on a hotkey command.

Trouble is I can't get it to create a message.

The spam gets exported, is sitting there in the temp folder, and the
original message moved to the trash folder, but no message is created.

I've tried using the filter in an account-based Junk mail folder, and
in a common folder (using the 'active account' macro in the 'create
message' template) but with no joy in either case.

Is there not an issue in that the option to 'export the message to a
file' option in the sorting office is /after/ the 'create message for'
option?

Below are the filters I'm using. I would be grateful if someone with
this working could have a look.

Thanks.

David

This is the filter from the account-based sorting office:

BeginFilter
Name: Submit spam to SpamCop
Active: 1
Source: \\accountname\Inbox
Target: \\accountname\Trash
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: 40.
Actions: 
faMarkRead,faNewMsg,faExport,faoExportOver,faoExportKludges,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey,faoSaveUnix
NewAddr: submit...snip[EMAIL PROTECTED]
NewTemplate: %put\3D\27C:\5Ctemp\5Cexport.txt\27\0D\0A
ExtCmd: 
ExtFile: C:\temp\export.txt
ExtractDir: 
ColourGroup: default
AddAddrItems: afiFrom,
DelAddrItems: afiFrom,
HotKey: 49375
IsOfColour: default
EndFilter


and this is the filter from the common folder:

BeginFilter
Name: Submit spam to SpamCop
Active: 1
Source: \\\$JUNK$
Target: \\\Trash
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: 40.
Actions: 
faMarkRead,faNewMsg,faExport,faoExportOver,faoExportKludges,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey,faoSaveUnix
NewAddr: submit...snip[EMAIL PROTECTED]
NewTemplate: 
%account\3D\22username@domain.com\22\0D\0A%put\3D\27C:\5Ctemp\5Cexport.txt\27\0D\0A
ExtCmd: 
ExtFile: C:\temp\export.txt
ExtractDir: 
ColourGroup: default
AddAddrItems: afiFrom,
DelAddrItems: afiFrom,
HotKey: 49375
IsOfColour: default
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Re: Marck's SpamCop filters : (

2003-11-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi David,

@18-Nov-2003, 19:13 David Boggon said:

 I have been trying to set up Marck's SpamCop filters to
 automatically submit mail to SpamCop on a hotkey command.

 Trouble is I can't get it to create a message.

I just tested it here and it seems to work well.

... snip

 Is there not an issue in that the option to 'export the message to
 a file' option in the sorting office is /after/ the 'create
 message for' option?

No. That's just an accident of option-in-dialog order but doesn't
affect the sequence of events.

 Below are the filters I'm using. I would be grateful if someone
 with this working could have a look.
... snip
 This is the filter from the account-based sorting office:

And this filter is in the sorting office of the appropriate
account? This looks very much like what I have here and a quick test
shows mine still working.

... snip

 and this is the filter from the common folder:

... snip

While the contents of this filter look right, it's not going to
work. Common folders do not have an associated sorting office from
which to summon a hotkey sorting office filter.

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Re: Marck's SpamCop filters : (

2003-11-18 Thread David Boggon

Hi Marck,

Thanks for your reply.

in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
at 8:27 PM (my time) on Tuesday 18/11/03 you wrote:



MDP I just tested it here and it seems to work well.

Hmmm


MDP And this filter is in the sorting office of the appropriate
MDP account? This looks very much like what I have here and a quick test
MDP shows mine still working.

Yes, I have the filter in 'read messages' and the source folder is the 'junk
mail' folder within this account. (I have been testing the filter on
previously received junk that I have moved back to the inbox and
re-marked as junk [and read])

There are some check boxes I don't understand in the 'options' tab of
the sorting office... like Check the selected message against this
rule and Regular expressions, both of which are unchecked.

MDP While the contents of this filter look right, it's not going to
MDP work. Common folders do not have an associated sorting office from
MDP which to summon a hotkey sorting office filter.

Well I have a sorting office for common folders into which I pasted
the filter I listed in my last post, and it worked i.e. it caught the
selected message from my common junk folder, wrote it to the
'export.txt' file, and then moved the original message to my common
trash folder. And it did it on a hotkey :  ) Is this unexpected?

As I said I just can't get it to create a message. Just been playing
with filter settings to try to get it to work and no joy.

Here is the latest copy of the filter from the /account/ sorting office:

BeginFilter
Name: Submit spam to SpamCop
Active: 1
Source: \\accountname\$JUNK$
Target: \\accountname\Trash
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: 40.
Actions: 
faMarkRead,faNewMsg,faExport,faoExportOver,faoExportKludges,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey,faoSaveUnix
AddGroups: 
DelGroups: 
ForwardTemplate: 
ConfirmTemplate: 
ReplyTemplate: 
FwdAddr: 
RedirectAddr: 
NewAddr: submit.snip@spam.spamcop.net
NewTemplate: %put\3D\27C:\5Ctemp\5Cexport.txt\27\0D\0A
ExtCmd: 
ExtFile: C:\temp\export.txt
ExtractDir: 
ColourGroup: default
AddAddrItems: afiFrom,
DelAddrItems: afiFrom,
HotKey: 49375
IsOfColour: default
SizeBigger: 0
SizeSmaller: 0
AgeOlder: 0
AgeNewer: 0
InAddrPos: 0
OutAddrPos: 0
InAddrGroups: 
NoAddrGroups: 
KillFile: 
KillMethod: 0
SaveTemplate: \0D\0A
SndFile: 
SysSound: 0
SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
EndFilter





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Re: Marck's SpamCop filters : (

2003-11-18 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Tuesday, November 18, 2003, 9:16:25 PM, David Boggon wrote:

 There are some check boxes I don't understand in the 'options' tab of
 the sorting office... like Check the selected message against this
 rule and Regular expressions, both of which are unchecked.

I have problems getting the spam filter to work at times, usually
because of tickbox problems.

My current set up, which works, is:

Rule is:
[x] Active
[x] Manual Only

On Options sheet
[x] Execute using Hot Key
[x] Check Selected message against rule
[ ] This rule is executed only by pressing the hot key

The Check Selected option limits the filter to just the selected
message(s) and the Executed Only option is to stop it running when you
re-filter (I think)

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