NOT running slow anymore

2003-01-19 Thread Michael Disabato
Well, folks, the problem seems to be resolved.

First off, thanks to you all for the constructive comments about the
problem. I've traced it down to the settings in the virus scanner, not
Zone Alarm. It seems the settings for Real Time Scanning were set to
scan everything. This worked until an update occurred last week.
That's when it seems things got slow, since Trend Micro tells me they
got REAL agressive looking for a particular virus (SOBIG?).

Since the file got scanned coming in, when it created the TMP file,
and again when it got put in the message store, things got really
slow. Especially since TM now scanned a several MB large file for each
message it added. YIKES No wonder the thing was slow.

Taking the suggestion, I have excluded the directory (BatMail) where
my mail folders reside. Things are running quite well, thank you very
much! :)

With that said, I still require a personal firewall. My travels into
the public internet have shown enough scans and attempted attacks to
make it necessary when I'm not home. Please contact me off line with
your recommendations. Also, would someone point me to the OT list? I
can post the question there, as well.

Once again, thanks to all for your input.

Regards,

Mike



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Re: NOT running slow anymore

2003-01-19 Thread Tim Musson
Hey Michael,

My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.62 Christmas Edition) Personal' was used
to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Sunday, January 19, 2003 at 7:44:18 AM.

MD Also, would someone point me to the OT list? I can post the
MD question there, as well.

All that info is found by following the link the list adds after the
message.  See below. g

HAND

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Re: NOT running slow anymore

2003-01-19 Thread Carsten Thönges
* Michael Disabato [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Well, folks, the problem seems to be resolved.

Well done :-)

 With that said, I still require a personal firewall.

No.

 My travels into the public internet have shown enough scans and
 attempted attacks to make it necessary when I'm not home.

Who attacks your PC and how? What do you expect from your personal
firewall? How could a personal firewall help?
-- 
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Re[2]: NOT running slow anymore

2003-01-19 Thread Victor B. Gonzalez

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Hello Carsten,

 Well, folks, the problem seems to be resolved.

CT Well done :-)

 With that said, I still require a personal firewall.

CT No.

 My travels into the public internet have shown enough scans and
 attempted attacks to make it necessary when I'm not home.

Absolutely true... You can try Kerio Personal and get it
http://www.kerio.com

CT Who attacks your PC and how?

I can easily attack your pc starting at this very moment...

CT What do you expect from your personal firewall?

Protection from stupidity, trojans, viruses, scans, enhanced
privacy, etc...

CT How could a personal firewall help?

Remove the door to your house tonight and never put it back,
then lie a fully loaded shotgun and all of your valuables at
the entrance with a note attached To whom this may concern,
please shoot me, or just take the money and the shotgun and
go, I DON'T CARE!.

You know you're personal preference about your own security
is entirely an opinion and nothing more... You shouldn't
influence any body's decision on security with ignorance...

I know you knew that was coming too...

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Re: NOT running slow anymore

2003-01-19 Thread Allie Martin
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Victor B. Gonzalez [VBG] wrote:'

VBG You know you're personal preference about your own security
VBG is entirely an opinion and nothing more... You shouldn't
VBG influence any body's decision on security with ignorance...

VBG I know you knew that was coming too...

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instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Victor.

This thread is currently veering off-topic. It's now dealing with
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This has nothing to do with TB! or e-mail.

I ask that any further discussion on this be taken off-list or to
TBOT.

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Desktop firewalls (was: NOT running slow anymore)

2003-01-19 Thread Carsten Thönges
* Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Hello Carsten,

[ personal firewalls ]

 Who attacks your PC and how?

 I can easily attack your pc starting at this very moment...

Please attack me, Victor. Try it as hard as you can. And please
explain us how a personal firewall could prevent me from being
attacked by you. And, how are you going to attack me? Did it work?

 What do you expect from your personal firewall?

 Protection from stupidity,

What do you mean with stupidity? An example?

 trojans,

A trojan horse is a program that *you* install on your computer. If
such a trojan horse runs on your system you have lost. Period. A
trojan horse could deactivate a personal firewall (especially under
Win9x operation systems, or under a WinNT when you are logged in as
admin), manipulate files, ...

A personal firewall can *not* protect you from installing a trojan
horse.

I would recommend to be more careful with installing strange
tools.

 viruses,

a virus is a program that *you* install on your computer. A personal
firewall can not stop you from executing strange attachments.

Just one example: trojan horses could easily communicate through the
firewall by starting IE with an Url like
http://www.someserver.tld/bla?a=secret_information_from_victors_pc...
This is the way Realplayer tunnels through firewalls.

 scans,

do you mean portscans. I don't see any problem in being
portscanned. That's the internet :-)

 enhanced privacy,

I don't see how. An example?

 etc...

Sorry, Victor, could you explain that in a more, erm, technical way?

 How could a personal firewall help?

 Remove the door to your house tonight and never put it back,
 then lie a fully loaded shotgun and all of your valuables at
 the entrance with a note attached To whom this may concern,
 please shoot me, or just take the money and the shotgun and
 go, I DON'T CARE!.

Funny, but FUD.

 You know you're personal preference about your own security
 is entirely an opinion and nothing more... You shouldn't
 influence any body's decision on security with ignorance...

Victor, no, no and no. I am not influencing anyone. I am asking you
again: please describe a case in which a personal firewall protects
you from being hacked.

a) Don't offer any services if you don't really need them. So there
   will be no open ports.

b) Always install the latest security patches for your software.

c) Don't install software that you don't trust a 100 per cent.

d) Don't use IE, OE.

e) ...
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Re: Desktop firewalls (was: NOT running slow anymore)

2003-01-19 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Carsten,

On Sun, 19 Jan 2003 17:47:24 +0100GMT (19-1-03, 17:47 +0100GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

CT Victor, no, no and no. I am not influencing anyone. I am asking
CT you again: please describe a case in which a personal firewall
CT protects you from being hacked.

It might be more a legal issue than something else. In the Netherlands
it's not illegal to hack somebody's computer when he hasn't taken any
precautions. That's about the same as: There's no gate, how is he to
know he's not allowed to enter. However, when there's a firewall to
be worked around the issue is the other way around.

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Re: Desktop firewalls (was: NOT running slow anymore)

2003-01-19 Thread Allie Martin
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Roelof Otten [RO] wrote:'

RO It might be more a legal issue than something else. In the Netherlands
RO it's not illegal to hack somebody's computer when he hasn't taken any
RO precautions. That's about the same as: There's no gate, how is he to
RO know he's not allowed to enter. However, when there's a firewall to
RO be worked around the issue is the other way around.

This is my second request

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