Re[2]: PGP, PGPlog and TB! [Was: Quick Search closing]

[George F Schoelles]

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Hello Brian,

Tuesday, January 23, 2001, 8:12:51 AM, you wrote:

BC> I upgraded to 6.5.8 in order to get the new Hotkeys functionality
BC> (because I don't use message preview in TB!) so that I didn't have to
BC> open a message, then hit Esc, then hit Ctrl+Shift+D to decrypt a
BC> message.

BC> That lead me to create a filter to assign a color group to an
BC> encrypted message so that I didn't have to open it to see that it was
BC> encrypted -- which allowed me to just hit Ctrl+Shift+D.

BC> So I upgraded to 6.5.8. You have to keep PGPtray open in order to get
BC> the Hotkeys functionality. By doing that, it changed the way PGP
BC> worked with TB!. Instead of creating a new, decrypted message in the
BC> message list, it insisted on decrypting the message and displaying it
BC> in the Text Viewer.

BC> So, I stopped using the PGPTray, went back to using my filter, and
BC> hitting Ctrl+Shift+D to decrypt messages.

BC> The drawback is, when I'm just verifying signatures, it pops up
BC> PGPlog, and PGPlog can't be killed by Esc.

BC> So... now that we've come full circle again, if we want to keep
BC> this thread going, we can move it over to TBTECH.


I changed my PGPtray hot keys to CTRL-ALT-D/E/S and have been
avoiding conflicts just fine.

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Re: Quick Search closing

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On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 08:22:10 -0500, Brian thoughtfully wrote the
following:

ACM>> Ah, I see. I think that this window is peculiar to TB!. Anyone
ACM>> else have a take on this?

BC> I would say the PGPlog window is particular to PGP and is only
BC> called by TB!. I remember seeing the PGPlog window long before I
BC> started using TB!.

BC> When I check your signature and I get the PGPlog window, I can see
BC> the active PGPlog process which was started with
BC> c:\pgp\pgplog.exe.

This is true. pgplog.exe resides in my PGPNT directory and when I
start it up the familiar PGP Log window appears. :=) I guess that
explains why the standard  jey doesn't get rid of it.

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Re: PGP, PGPlog and TB! [Was: Quick Search closing]

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On January 23, 2001, at 8:12:51 AM, Brian Clark Wrote:

BC> So... now that we've come full circle again, if we want to keep
BC> this thread going, we can move it over to TBTECH.

Ha ha ha! Yes, we have come full circle with this. :o)  The ball now
rests with RITLabs to develop a PGP Plugin which places the verification
information within the message as most other MUA's do.


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Re: PGP, PGPlog and TB! [Was: Quick Search closing]

[Brian Clark]

Hello George, 

(GFS == "George F Schoelles") [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

GFS> That's back to where I said that I thought it was the Plug-in
GFS> causing the problem and I was told it wasn't.  Thus was further
GFS> trying to hunt out the culprit.

Yes. That what my original reply to Allie was all about. :)

..That it was TB!'s plug-in calling PGP's pgplog.exe in order to
verify signatures.

So I don't think it's necessarily a *problem* with the plug-in; rather,
it's just an issue with the way RIT Labs chose to handle it.

GFS> I have never like TB's plug-ins and do use the tray/Hot-keys
GFS> extensively.

I agree.

I upgraded to 6.5.8 in order to get the new Hotkeys functionality
(because I don't use message preview in TB!) so that I didn't have to
open a message, then hit Esc, then hit Ctrl+Shift+D to decrypt a
message.

That lead me to create a filter to assign a color group to an
encrypted message so that I didn't have to open it to see that it was
encrypted -- which allowed me to just hit Ctrl+Shift+D.

So I upgraded to 6.5.8. You have to keep PGPtray open in order to get
the Hotkeys functionality. By doing that, it changed the way PGP
worked with TB!. Instead of creating a new, decrypted message in the
message list, it insisted on decrypting the message and displaying it
in the Text Viewer.

So, I stopped using the PGPTray, went back to using my filter, and
hitting Ctrl+Shift+D to decrypt messages.

The drawback is, when I'm just verifying signatures, it pops up
PGPlog, and PGPlog can't be killed by Esc.

So... now that we've come full circle again, if we want to keep
this thread going, we can move it over to TBTECH.

:-)

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Re[2]: PGP, PGPlog and TB! [Was: Quick Search closing]

[George F Schoelles]

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Hello Brian,

Tuesday, January 23, 2001, 7:29:01 AM, you wrote:

BC> I don't think so. I just did this the other day, and, besides, Allie's
BC> is doing the same thing. TB!'s PGP plug-in is _obviously_ looking for
BC> pgplog.exe.

BC> When you had 6.5.8 installed, exactly how did you verify signatures?

BC> If you're using the PGPtray, you're not going to get the PGPlog pop up
BC> box.


That's back to where I said that I thought it was the Plug-in
causing the problem and I was told it wasn't.  Thus was further
trying to hunt out the culprit.

I have never like TB's plug-ins and do use the tray/Hot-keys
extensively.

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Re: PGP, PGPlog and TB! [Was: Quick Search closing]

[Brian Clark]

Hello George, 

(GFS == "George F Schoelles") [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

BC>> We just had a long discussion about this on PGP-Basics the other day.

GFS> I just this week went from 6.5.8CKT to 7.0.3 and never had the
GFS> problems you describe.  Personally, I think I would un-install PGP
GFS> (saving the key-rings).  Hunt down and destroy all the PGP*.* files,
GFS> reboot and re-install 6.5.8.

I don't think so. I just did this the other day, and, besides, Allie's
is doing the same thing. TB!'s PGP plug-in is _obviously_ looking for
pgplog.exe.

When you had 6.5.8 installed, exactly how did you verify signatures?

If you're using the PGPtray, you're not going to get the PGPlog pop up
box.

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Re: PGP, PGPlog and TB! [Was: Quick Search closing]

[George F Schoelles]

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Hello Brian,

Tuesday, January 23, 2001, 7:03:43 AM, you wrote:

GFS>> What version of PGP are you using?

BC> 6.5.8. Same thing happened with 6.0.2 I believe. You're using 7.x so
BC> you're probably using PGPtray, which doesn't show that information in
BC> the PGPlog window -- rather, it displays it inline, probably, in the
BC> Text Viewer.

BC> We just had a long discussion about this on PGP-Basics the other day.


I just this week went from 6.5.8CKT to 7.0.3 and never had the
problems you describe.  Personally, I think I would un-install PGP
(saving the key-rings).  Hunt down and destroy all the PGP*.* files,
reboot and re-install 6.5.8.

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PGP, PGPlog and TB! [Was: Quick Search closing]

[Brian Clark]

Hello George, 

(GFS == "George F Schoelles") [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

BC>> To the contrary, it seems like the dialog was added in order to
BC>> prevent problems in the event that pgplog.exe couldn't be found.

GFS> What version of PGP are you using?

6.5.8. Same thing happened with 6.0.2 I believe. You're using 7.x so
you're probably using PGPtray, which doesn't show that information in
the PGPlog window -- rather, it displays it inline, probably, in the
Text Viewer.

We just had a long discussion about this on PGP-Basics the other day.

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Re[2]: Quick Search closing

[George F Schoelles]

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Hello Brian,

Tuesday, January 23, 2001, 6:07:37 AM, you wrote:

BC> To the contrary, it seems like the dialog was added in order to
BC> prevent problems in the event that pgplog.exe couldn't be found.

What version of PGP are you using?

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Re: Quick Search closing

[Brian Clark]

Hello George, 

(GFS == "George F Schoelles") [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

BC>>  'Can't Locate PGPlog!' (title bar)

GFS> Sounds like a TB Plug-in problem.

Not really, because the dialog proves it tried to find
c:\pgp\pgplog.exe, which of course I renamed.

To the contrary, it seems like the dialog was added in order to
prevent problems in the event that pgplog.exe couldn't be found.

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Re[2]: Quick Search closing

[George F Schoelles]

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Hello Brian,

Tuesday, January 23, 2001, 5:53:14 AM, you wrote:

BC> Allie's key isn't unknown, in my case, and renaming pgplog.exe to
BC> pgplog.ex! isn't a solution. When I do that, then TheBat! informs me
BC> with a pop up dialog which states:

BC>  'Can't Locate PGPlog!' (title bar)

Sounds like a TB Plug-in problem.  Have you tried just using the PGP
current window option from the tray and see if you get the same
response.

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Re: Quick Search closing

[Brian Clark]

Hello George, 

(GFS == "George F Schoelles") [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

GFS> PGPlog window usually only pops-up only when decrypting an un-known
GFS> key.  Yes it is a PITA that can be fixed by renaming pgplog.exe to
GFS> pgplog.ex! or alike.

Allie's key isn't unknown, in my case, and renaming pgplog.exe to
pgplog.ex! isn't a solution. When I do that, then TheBat! informs me
with a pop up dialog which states:

 'Can't Locate PGPlog!' (title bar)

  Good Signature
  TheBat!
  George F Schoelles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Valid Key
  1/23/01 8:48:36 AM

   [  OK  ]

So the title bar of that dialog obviously says that shouldn't happen.

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Re[2]: Quick Search closing

[George F Schoelles]

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Hello Brian,

Tuesday, January 23, 2001, 5:22:10 AM, you wrote:

ACM>> Ah, I see. I think that this window is peculiar to TB!. Anyone
ACM>> else have a take on this?

BC> I would say the PGPlog window is particular to PGP and is only called
BC> by TB!. I remember seeing the PGPlog window long before I started
BC> using TB!.

BC> When I check your signature and I get the PGPlog window, I can see the
BC> active PGPlog process which was started with c:\pgp\pgplog.exe.

BC> If I close your verified signature (Alt+F4 PGPlog window), then I
BC> WindowsKey+R and type in c:\pgp\pgplog.exe and Enter, I get the same
BC> exact window, except this time it's empty.

PGPlog window usually only pops-up only when decrypting an un-known
key.  Yes it is a PITA that can be fixed by renaming pgplog.exe to
pgplog.ex! or alike.

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Re: Quick Search closing

[Brian Clark]

Hello Allie,

(ACM == "A. Curtis Martin") [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

ACM> Ah, I see. I think that this window is peculiar to TB!. Anyone
ACM> else have a take on this?

I would say the PGPlog window is particular to PGP and is only called
by TB!. I remember seeing the PGPlog window long before I started
using TB!.

When I check your signature and I get the PGPlog window, I can see the
active PGPlog process which was started with c:\pgp\pgplog.exe.

If I close your verified signature (Alt+F4 PGPlog window), then I
WindowsKey+R and type in c:\pgp\pgplog.exe and Enter, I get the same
exact window, except this time it's empty.

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Re: New PGP Plug-in => Was: Re[2]: Quick Search closing

[Marck D. Pearlstone]

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Hi George,

On  23  January  2001 at 18:20:01 -0800 (which was 02:20 where I live)
George F Schoelles wrote and made these points:

GFS> I would like to recommend to the Plug-in folks that they need to
GFS> work the non-line wrap setting into the plug-in so PGP
GFS> comparability will flow across programs. This would help me
GFS> considerably.

What  an  excellent  suggestion.  It would be great if TB kept the PGP
line  wrap  settings  and  turned  them  off during use, restoring the
setting when done. There are no circumstances under which TB wants PGP
to touch the line wrapping.

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[George F Schoelles]

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Hello Nick,

Monday, January 22, 2001, 2:30:46 PM, you wrote:

NA> Hmmm? I think it may be related to TB!'s PGP Plugin myself. Although it has
NA> the name "PGPLog", I do not believe it's part of the PGP Program. I have
NA> found no reference to it in any PGP related documentation.

NA> Hopefully, RITLabs will produce a long awaited PGP Plugin update, that will
NA> not only include signature verification info right into the message, but
NA> also include support for PGP 7.0.3, especially considering the Freeware
NA> version is set to be released any day now.

I would like to recommend to the Plug-in folks that they need to
work the non-line wrap setting into the plug-in so PGP comparability will flow
across programs.  This would help me considerably.

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Re: Quick Search closing

[A . Curtis Martin]

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On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:30:46 -0800, Nick wrote these words of wisdom:

 «...snip...»
NA> Hopefully, RITLabs will produce a long awaited PGP Plugin update,
NA> that will not only include signature verification info right into
NA> the message, but also include support for PGP 7.0.3, especially
NA> considering the Freeware version is set to be released any day
NA> now.

I couldn't agree with you more on that one Nick. It's impractical to
be hitting CTRL+SHIFT+C to check each and every signed message when we
really should be doing so, or else what's the point of signing?

The signature status should be displayed in a status bar. A status bar
would be great for the view folder or main window.

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Re: Quick Search closing

[A . Curtis Martin]

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On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 17:30:05 -0500, John contributed this to our
collective wisdom:

JS> I am not sure about this, but it has the same appearance and
JS> actions as the pgpkeys window and the tools window. I know this
JS> dosn't mean much, but right click on the title bar of the popup
JS> window, and the pgp keys title bar, and then an open window of the
JS> bat! It highlights the same functions on both pgp windows but
JS> different on the bat. Maybe the dll calls something from pgp.
JS> Sorry if I lost you. Not sure if I understand what I am saying
JS> myself.

Ah, I see. I think that this window is peculiar to TB!. Anyone else
have a take on this?

BTW John, would you kindly keep the amount of quoting you do to a
minimum. It saves on list bandwidth and makes for easier reading by
the membership.

May I suggest, you replace the %quotes macro in your reply template
for this list to the following which should be in one long line in
your template:

%Quotes="%SETPATTREGEXP=""(?is)\n*(^-BEGIN PGP 
SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(-*?\s*?--\s*\n|_{40,}\s*\n|-BEGIN\sPGP\sSIGNATURE)|\z)""%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=""%text""%SUBPATT=""3"""

It will strip out the PGP stuff and signatures from your replies. It
therefore takes away a lot of the work of trimming your messages.

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Re[2]: Quick Search closing

[John Seymour]

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Hello A.,

Monday, January 22, 2001, 5:09:56 PM, you wrote:

ACM> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
ACM> Hash: SHA1

ACM> On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 16:37:52 -0500, John wrote these comments:

ACM>>>  Now run a PGP signature check on someone and try using escape
ACM>>> to close the popup notification window. It's the exception I've
ACM>>> found and I'm perplexed as to why this is so.

JS>> I believe that the popup window is part of pgp not TB!. That is
JS>> why it acts differently than other windows.

ACM> Hmmm. Why do you think so? I only see that pop-up window in the
ACM> context of using TB!'s PGP Plug-in. This window doesn't pop-up when
ACM> using PGP Tray or tools to verify signatures.

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ACM> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
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ACM> Comment: Digitally signed for sender and message authentication.

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I am not sure about this, but it has the same appearance and actions
as the pgpkeys window and the tools window. I know this dosn't mean
much, but right click on the title bar of the popup window, and the
pgp keys title bar, and then an open window of the bat! It highlights
the same functions on both pgp windows but different on the bat. Maybe
the dll calls something from pgp. Sorry if I lost you. Not sure if I
understand what I am saying myself.

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Re: Quick Search closing

[Nick Andriash]

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On January 22, 2001, at 1:37:52 PM, John Seymour Wrote:

JS> I believe that the popup window is part of pgp not TB!. That is why it
JS> acts differently than other windows.

Hmmm? I think it may be related to TB!'s PGP Plugin myself. Although it has
the name "PGPLog", I do not believe it's part of the PGP Program. I have
found no reference to it in any PGP related documentation.

Hopefully, RITLabs will produce a long awaited PGP Plugin update, that will
not only include signature verification info right into the message, but
also include support for PGP 7.0.3, especially considering the Freeware
version is set to be released any day now.


Nick


N.J. Andriash [ TB! v1.49c | PGP 7.0.3 | Win 98 SE ]
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Re: Quick Search closing

[A . Curtis Martin]

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On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 16:37:52 -0500, John wrote these comments:

ACM>>  Now run a PGP signature check on someone and try using escape
ACM>> to close the popup notification window. It's the exception I've
ACM>> found and I'm perplexed as to why this is so.

JS> I believe that the popup window is part of pgp not TB!. That is
JS> why it acts differently than other windows.

Hmmm. Why do you think so? I only see that pop-up window in the
context of using TB!'s PGP Plug-in. This window doesn't pop-up when
using PGP Tray or tools to verify signatures.

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Re[2]: Quick Search closing

[John Seymour]

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Hello A.,

Monday, January 22, 2001, 3:48:50 PM, you wrote:

ACM>  Now run a PGP signature check on someone and try using escape to
ACM> close the popup notification window. It's the exception I've found and
ACM> I'm perplexed as to why this is so.

I believe that the popup window is part of pgp not TB!. That is why it
acts differently than other windows.

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Re: Quick Search closing

[Brian Clark]

Hello Allie,

(ACM == "A. Curtis Martin") [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

BC>> I bang  on ESC or DEL all day to close message windows -- as
BC>> well as the Address Book, Account Properties, and Message Finder.

ACM> True. Now run a PGP signature check on someone

Is your key on any of the key servers? Yours came up as not found
(admittedly I don't have that many servers listed). I just grabbed it
from your machine.

ACM> and try using escape to close the popup notification window. It's
ACM> the exception I've found and I'm perplexed as to why this is so.

Yeah, it's kind of annoying after a while. I've gotten used to ALT+F4
to kill that after a glance. Nick Andriash and I were talking about
how we hope, soon, a new plug-in might display that
information inline, to replace all of the external acrobatics.

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Re: Quick Search closing

[A . Curtis Martin]

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On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 11:13:19 -0500, Brian contributed this to our
collective wisdom:

 «...snip...»
BC> No, wasn't stupid, you just didn't know. ESC closes most, if not
BC> all?, such things in TB!. For example, since I don't use message
BC> Preview, I bang  on ESC or DEL all day to close message windows
BC> -- as well as the Address Book, Account Properties, and Message
BC> Finder.

True. Now run a PGP signature check on someone and try using escape to
close the popup notification window. It's the exception I've found and
I'm perplexed as to why this is so.

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Re: Quick Search closing

[Brian Clark]

Hello Lija, 

(L == "Lija") [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

L> Thank you and all of you who responded. How stupid I was... :(((

No, wasn't stupid, you just didn't know. ESC closes most, if not all?,
such things in TB!. For example, since I don't use message Preview, I
bang  on ESC or DEL all day to close message windows -- as well as
the Address Book, Account Properties, and Message Finder. I'm also
used to hitting ESC in Unix/Linux shells for command line completion
(Esc Esc, a.k.a bang, bang).

Pretty handy.

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Re[2]: Quick Search closing

[Lija]

Hello Brian,

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, at 10:11:16 [GMT -0500] (16:11 my local time), you wrote:

L>> Is there any shortcut to close Quick Search dialog-box?

BC> When it's still in focus, you can hit ESC.

Thank you and all of you who responded. How stupid I was... :(((



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Hello, the Bat! list recipients,

Monday, January 22, 2001, Lija wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] about
Quick Search closing:

L> Is there any shortcut to close Quick Search dialog-box?

Esc

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Re: Quick Search closing

[Thomas]

Hallo Lija,

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:51:20 +0100 GMT (22/01/2001, 22:51 +0800 GMT),
Lija wrote:

> Is there any shortcut to close Quick Search dialog-box?

Yes: 

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Re: Quick Search closing

[Brian Clark]

Hello Lija, 

(L == "Lija") [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

L> Is there any shortcut to close Quick Search dialog-box?

When it's still in focus, you can hit ESC.

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[Lija]

Hello tbudl,

Is there any shortcut to close Quick Search dialog-box?

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