Re: Quickly toggling fix-width fonts
>> It sounds like I didn't overlook something obvious, anyway, The >> Bat! just doesn't appear to cater to those of us who prefer to use >> fixed width fonts most of the time. >I never use ANYTHING else! TB! does this with no effort on my part >:-) I guess that's cool, and an email client SHOULD be optimized for fixed width fonts. But! For those of us who fall under "most of the time" rather than "always", it punishes us for using fixed as the default, since it requires such convoluted steps to simply view the current message in the alternate font. It's almost faster just to paste it into an external editor. -- zParticle Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quickly toggling fix-width fonts
> >>I actually meant there that you cannot navigate to the option using the > >>keyboard. > > >Alt-O > >Hit the key 9 times > >Hit the key 5 times > >Press P or R > > > > Does this refer to the beta? On my copy of 1.62r, this does: > > >Alt-O > preferences menu > >Hit the key 9 times > [nothing] Yep. Scratch that part. And try 5 times. But, then, at this point, keyboard doesn't work. You should probably send a bug report that the keyboard doesn't work from Preferences/Viewer. Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quickly toggling fix-width fonts
Hello zParticle, On or about Saturday, August 02, 2003 at 22:37:33GMT -0500 (which was 10:37 PM in the tropics where I live) zParticle posted: z> It sounds like I didn't overlook something obvious, anyway, The z> Bat! just doesn't appear to cater to those of us who prefer to use z> fixed width fonts most of the time. I never use ANYTHING else! TB! does this with no effort on my part :-) -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike Quote for the decade: "Oxymoron: American English" /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! / \ Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML). -- Using TheBat! v1.62r hamstrung by Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1' -- Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quickly toggling fix-width fonts
On Sun 3-Aug-03 12:28am -0400, Allie Martin wrote: > Though your message header says that you're using v1.62r, your keyboard > navigation path is the one for the new options panel seen only in the > betas. Yes, I accidentally tested that from the Beta. I also didn't see a way to get there in the Gild. -- Best regards, Bill Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quickly toggling fix-width fonts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bill Mccarthy, [BM] wrote: BM> Try the following: BM> Alt-O BM> Hit the key 9 times BM> Hit the key 5 times BM> Press P or R BM> Though your message header says that you're using v1.62r, your keyboard navigation path is the one for the new options panel seen only in the betas. I know about it. But zParticle is using the latest release version and your method doesn't work there. For version 1.62r, I'm stuck after doing: Alt-O- Right arrow 5 times Alt-V should be able to get me to the 'View message using' option since the 'V' is underlined. However, this doesn't work. Neither does tabbing get me there. The only way to do it is with the mouse. - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBPyyPZlfJ62ArBxfiEQI6swCfXTM5brQ6s5kkdqR7HHj7z5XhxTEAoKxb FW8/09BsD8dx7nulCRhfm9JS =Q1r6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quickly toggling fix-width fonts
>>I actually meant there that you cannot navigate to the option using the >>keyboard. >Alt-O >Hit the key 9 times >Hit the key 5 times >Press P or R > Does this refer to the beta? On my copy of 1.62r, this does: >Alt-O preferences menu >Hit the key 9 times [nothing] >Hit the key 5 times viewer preferences >Press P or R [nothing] > save preferences It sounds like I didn't overlook something obvious, anyway, The Bat! just doesn't appear to cater to those of us who prefer to use fixed width fonts most of the time. Hopefully a future release will at least work with a keyboard macro. -- zParticle Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quickly toggling fix-width fonts
On Sat 2-Aug-03 10:42pm -0400, Allie Martin wrote: > Allie Martin, [AM] wrote: AM>> Hmmm. Upon fiddling with v1.62r, I see what you mean. You can navigate AM>> to that option using the keyboard > I actually meant there that you cannot navigate to the option using the > keyboard. Try the following: Alt-O Hit the key 9 times Hit the key 5 times Press P or R BTW, I agree that there should be a simple way to do this in TB without needing to write a PowerPro macro. -- Best regards, Bill Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quickly toggling fix-width fonts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Allie Martin, [AM] wrote: AM> Hmmm. Upon fiddling with v1.62r, I see what you mean. You can navigate AM> to that option using the keyboard I actually meant there that you cannot navigate to the option using the keyboard. - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBPyx2k1fJ62ArBxfiEQIx1gCgiPtcHxAM3ulzw5+LP31APDG3vSMAmgK9 GVWL//ERUyIhL0SOR6cVRCZm =iyjw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quickly toggling fix-width fonts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Zparticle, [Z] wrote: Z> Within the message auto-view pane, I frequently need to switch Z> between fixed-width and proportional fonts. It's a bit of a pain Z> though, as I have to go to Preferences | Viewer and toggle the state Z> of the first combo box--at least 6 clicks and no way to get there via Z> keyboard. Have you tried creating a shortcut via the Edit Shortcuts dialog? Z> I expected to find a right-click option in the message pane or at Z> least a hotkey, but I can't figure out any simple way to do this. Z> Even a third-party macro program fails because that particular Z> control doesn't appear to be keyboard-accessible. Am I just missing Z> something here? Hmmm. Upon fiddling with v1.62r, I see what you mean. You can navigate to that option using the keyboard and the current beta's, but that's no solution for you. With a good macro tool like PowerPro, you could create a macro based on mouse movements since the Preferences window is always opens in the same position on the screen. All this of course, doesn't take away my strong agreement with your view that a change of viewer so that you can read with variable vs fixed width fonts should be made an easily accessible option, preferably a toggle switch. - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBPyx1zlfJ62ArBxfiEQLkLgCg1zzAifTASWg4UWweyQFoijFYbQUAoLkt 4KLfznGDqU4eQVIX1guWOUVy =7elR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Quickly toggling fix-width fonts
Within the message auto-view pane, I frequently need to switch between fixed-width and proportional fonts. It's a bit of a pain though, as I have to go to Preferences | Viewer and toggle the state of the first combo box--at least 6 clicks and no way to get there via keyboard. I expected to find a right-click option in the message pane or at least a hotkey, but I can't figure out any simple way to do this. Even a third-party macro program fails because that particular control doesn't appear to be keyboard-accessible. Am I just missing something here? Thanks. -- zParticle Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
