Re: All the meail in my inbox has disappeared!

2002-05-13 Thread tracer

Hello Michael David,
On Sat, 11 May 2002 21:52:44 -0400 GMT your local time,
which was Sunday, May 12, 2002, 8:52:44 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,




Michael David wrote:


 Hi Mandara!

 Hmmm - I don't think I deleted them, and those messages are not in the
 Trash folder.  Is there some way to delete messages that they don't end
 up in the trash?

Yes, if you tell the thrash to empty the bin after closing the bat...

 So, are you saying I should move the messages .tbb and messages.tbi
 files to a new TB folder, and then compress the new folder?



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Re: All the meail in my inbox has disappeared!

2002-05-13 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello Michael,

On Mon, 13 May 2002 10:10:30 -0400GMT (13-5-02, 16:10 +0200GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

MD All  my  email  in my inbox has disappeared. The messages.tbb (about 1
MD GB),   and  messages.tbi  (about  40MB)  are  still  in  the  default
 Move the messages.tbi to a temporary folder.

MD Thanks - That did it!

 When you'll enter the inbox, TB will notice the missing .tbi and will
 recreate it. That would mean that all your deleted messages will
 return, since the info of them being deleted is gone, but the
 non-deleted should be accessible too.

Since all of your messages that were deleted (or filtered to other
folders) should have become visible too, you should delete them again
and select from the menu: Folder - Compress all folders.
That diminishes the size of your inbox and prevent the problem from
occurring again.
Might your inbox still be excessively big, I'd suggest that you start
archiving the messages into different folders and afterwards compress
your inbox again. I don't know what's the actual limit for the folder
contents in TB, but I have found for myself that large folders take
lot more time to be opened than smaller ones. I use 5000 msg's (or 20
MB, whatever comes first) as a useful limit.

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Re: All the meail in my inbox has disappeared!

2002-05-13 Thread Dean

I can say I just had this happen to me.  I did not delete, however I was in
the process of saving attachments, posts, to my cd.  I was also going to
copy the entire bat program and had therefore just copied/exported the Rit
entries from the registry.

I rebooted after I was all done and wanted to get my regular programs
established in a clean start.  I started up the bat and whoosh gone was the
TBI of the Inbox.  The TBB was there with 27 mgs  but the TBI showed only
2 megs.  I did what was mentioned by Roelof and had to reboot again.  I
still didn't have anything showing up in the inbox - Until I started
looking through all of the other folders, which seemed to load very slowly.
 I then went back to the main inbox and after a slow start everything
 re-appeared.

The only thing I can think of that could have caused a problem was; I went
looking at other mail as the message center was downloading.  For some
reason I run into The program freezing and now this empty Inbox occurrence.

Do want to thank Roelof for the suggestion, was perfect timing for this to
come up;)

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Re: All the meail in my inbox has disappeared!

2002-05-12 Thread Mandara

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On Sat, 11 May 2002, at 21:52:44 -0400 Michael wrote:

MD Hmmm - I don't think I deleted them, and those messages are not in
MD the Trash folder. Is there some way to delete messages that they
MD don't end up in the trash?

Hmm, I think it is not possible, except if you delete entire folder,
which is not possible with Inbox folder. Other possibility, but
hardly, is that trash folder is emptied in some automatic, or some
other not noticed, way.

MD So, are you saying I should move the messages .tbb and messages.tbi
MD files to a new TB folder, and then compress the new folder?

No, copy them in a temporary folder somewhere *at HD*, not in TB, then
compress your Inbox folder *in Bat*. Then close TB, then copy tbb and
tbi files back in *Inbox folder, at HD*, then start TB. If this is
what I mean, then you should see messages from your Inbox folder, in
TB, again.

***I recalled another reason why you cannot see your messages, and it
can be pretty mussy: if folder structures in TB are not corresponding
with folder structures at your HD. It will happen if you changed
location of messages.* files at your HD.

But, that what is very important is a fact that you still have
messages.* files from this Inbox folder at your HD. As long as you
have them, and as long as you have them copied in some safe place,
would be possible to find a solution. This is most important.

Mandara
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Re: All the meail in my inbox has disappeared!

2002-05-12 Thread Allie C Martin

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Michael [M] wrote:
...
I didn't really have anything to add but then I reread your original
post and saw this:

M ... The messages.tbb (about 1 GB), and messages.tbi (about 40MB)
M are still in the default dir\account\Inbox folder, the unread
M and total messages numbers look correct. The messages just aren't
M showing up.

Wow! An impressive inbox .tbb file size. Anyone else packing a
message base of that size?

How many messages did you have in that folder?

How much RAM do you have on your system. Could this be a resource
issue that we're dealing with here and you've hit a ceiling of sorts
so the messages will not display?

Do you normally compress your inbox folder/s?

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Re: All the meail in my inbox has disappeared!

2002-05-12 Thread Allie C Martin

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Spike [S] wrote:
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S My TB Mail folder is presently 6.4GB with no degradation of
S performance, other than a long folder compress time on shutdown!

Yes, but do you have a single mail folder containing 1GB of mail. If
it were TB mail, I did some rough calculations based on my base sizes
and came up with over 300,000 messages for that one base. Either the
folder has some massive attachments in it or it hasn't been
compressed.

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Re: All the meail in my inbox has disappeared!

2002-05-11 Thread Chema Berian

Hello Listers, 

On  Saturday,  May  11,  2002,  23:11:41,  Michael  wrote  in  message
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MD All  my email in my inbox has disappeared. The messages.tbb (about
MD 1  GB),  and  messages.tbi  (about 40MB) are still in the default
MD dir\account\Inbox   folder,  the  unread  and  total  messages
MD numbers look correct. The messages just aren't showing up.

Looks  like you have alt-clicked in some header, select
  View  Display  All messages

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Re: Re: All the meail in my inbox has disappeared!

2002-05-11 Thread

Hi Chema!

Nope; that was the first thing I checked.  As I said in my original post: 

I don;t have a virus scanner currently installed on this computer, and
View-Display is set to All messages.

Cheers!

Michael David



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 Hello Listers, 
 
 On  Saturday,  May  11,  2002,  23:11:41,  Michael  wrote  in  message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
 
 MD All  my email in my inbox has disappeared. The messages.tbb (about
 MD 1  GB),  and  messages.tbi  (about 40MB) are still in the default
 MD dir\account\Inbox   folder,  the  unread  and  total  messages
 MD numbers look correct. The messages just aren't showing up.
 
 Looks  like you have alt-clicked in some header, select
   View  Display  All messages
 
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Re: All the meail in my inbox has disappeared!

2002-05-11 Thread Roel

Hi Michael

On Sat, 11 May 2002 17:11:41 -0400GMT
   (which was 11/05/2002, 23:11 +0200GMT for me),
you wrote:

MD All  my  email  in my inbox has disappeared. The messages.tbb (about 1
MD GB),   and  messages.tbi  (about  40MB)  are  still  in  the  default
dir\account\Inbox  folder,  the  unread  and total messages numbers
MD look correct. The messages just aren't showing up.

have you tried 'folder - browse deleted messages'?
I nothing shows up there, I'm afraid you've lost them...
(in that case: don't panic yet, as I can be wrong here :-) )

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Re: All the meail in my inbox has disappeared!

2002-05-11 Thread Roel

Hi Michael

On Sat, 11 May 2002 17:11:41 -0400GMT
   (which was 11/05/2002, 23:11 +0200GMT for me),
you wrote:

MD The messages.tbb (about 1 GB),   and  messages.tbi  (about  40MB)

Btw: just a tip to save some space in the future: *after* you've found
your messages  undeleted them (if that was indeed the case), enable
the 'compress' option for your inbox (you can find that under the
folder properties)

The first time you run that, it may take a while, the subsequent times
will be faster...

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Re: All the meail in my inbox has disappeared!

2002-05-11 Thread Mandara

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On Sat, 11 May 2002, at 18:25:59 -0400 michael wrote:

mmc As I said in my original post:

I don;t have a virus scanner currently installed on this computer, and
View-Display is set to All messages.

Maybe you accidently deleted all messages from mailbox, but you still
didn't compress it since you have them in tbb and tbi files. In this
case, just copy those files in some temp folder, then compress folders
in Bat and close the program. Then, move again tbb and tbi files in
the inbox on the disk and start the Bat. Messages should appear then.

I have no other idea in this moment.

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Re: All the meail in my inbox has disappeared!

2002-05-11 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello Michael,

On Sat, 11 May 2002 17:11:41 -0400GMT (11-5-02, 23:11 +0200GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

MD All  my  email  in my inbox has disappeared. The messages.tbb (about 1
MD GB),   and  messages.tbi  (about  40MB)  are  still  in  the  default

Close TB
Move the messages.tbi to a temporary folder.
Start TB
When you'll enter the inbox, TB will notice the missing .tbi and will
recreate it. That would mean that all your deleted messages will
return, since the info of them being deleted is gone, but the
non-deleted should be accessible too.


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