Re: Cost of X-Ray?
On Monday, February 3, 2003, 6:55 PM, you wrote: PC without looking at the README, will it work if I'm already using PC mercury32 as an SMTP and POP3 server? MD Yes. I'm testing it there and it seems to work ok. well, I have X-ray setup, and mail is going through xray, but it isn't really DOING anything.. now how do I change the X-mailer info.. -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
On Monday, February 3, 2003, 7:01 PM, you wrote: AM That was just the generic setup. You can then add your filters. AM Under the filters tab: AM Right click the filter list area and select 'Add' AM Filter Type: SMTP AM Filter Action: Delete (drop down menu selection) AM Kludge Name: X-Mailer (drop down menu selection) AM That's all if you wish to delete it. AM If you wish to replace it, choose 'replace' from the filter AM actions list and type the replacement value in the 'Kludge AM Value' field. that's what I DID... but I sent myself a test message, and it didn't change the xmailer field.. -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
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Paul Cartwright [PC] wrote:'
PC well, I have X-ray setup, and mail is going through xray, but it
PC isn't really DOING anything.. now how do I change the X-mailer
PC info..
Your X-Mailer currently is 'My PC!!'. Looks like X-Ray deserves that
credit.
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Re: Cost of X-Ray?
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Paul Cartwright [PC] wrote:'
PC that's what I DID... but I sent myself a test message, and it didn't
PC change the xmailer field..
Look at the X-Mailer header for the messages you've posted to the
list, i.e., the copy of the messages sent back to you. The X-Mailer
header is changed in them.
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Re: Cost of X-Ray?
On Tuesday, February 4, 2003, 6:59 AM, you wrote: PC that's what I DID... but I sent myself a test message, and it didn't PC change the xmailer field.. AM Look at the X-Mailer header for the messages you've posted to the AM list, i.e., the copy of the messages sent back to you. The X-Mailer AM header is changed in them. yeah!!! I don't get it, my own test message didn't change.. oh well, it's working now!! now I have to change that port in all of my accounts.. I wish there was a global replace function:) -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
On Tuesday, February 4, 2003, 6:57 AM, you wrote: PC well, I have X-ray setup, and mail is going through xray, but it PC isn't really DOING anything.. now how do I change the X-mailer PC info.. AM Your X-Mailer currently is 'My PC!!'. Looks like X-Ray deserves that AM credit. so, I can ADD info in those placeshmm... but no one LOOKS at full header info these days. -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
Hi Paul, on Tue, 4 Feb 2003 07:17:46 -0500GMT (04.02.03, 13:17 +0100GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : AM Look at the X-Mailer header for the messages you've posted to the AM list, i.e., the copy of the messages sent back to you. The X-Mailer AM header is changed in them. PC yeah!!! I don't get it, my own test message didn't change.. Maybe you have Allow local delivery checked under Options -- Network Administration? -- Cheers Peter 'There are two major products that come out of Berkeley; LSD and BSD Unix. We don't believe this to be a coincidence.' Winamp currently playing: - silence - Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
Hello Spike, On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 08:21:50 -0500 GMT (04/02/03, 20:21 +0700 GMT), Spike wrote: I noticed this when try to test a mail server, but the messages never went through it. I have to go to a webmail interface to test that due to this 'feature' of TB!!! The feature of local delivery is optional. I have it turned off. If I want to send a message to myself, I usually want it to go via the servers, either for testing purposes or because I want it to be available by webmail access later on. An example is for latter case is that, since I don't have a printer, if I need to print out a message or an attachment, I send it to myself and print it out at an internet cafe. If I just want to move a message from one of my accounts to another one, I use the move or copy functions of TB. I never really understood the usefulness of the local delivery option. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Klaus Toppmoeller: Ich musste meine Jungs ins kalte Feuer werfen. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
Hi, Thomas Fernandez wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I never really understood the usefulness of the local delivery option. I guess it is useful in a multi-user environment where the Bat functions as mail gateway (in the so-called Client mode and/or Server mode). Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
Hi Thomas and list, On Tuesday, February 4, 2003 at 23:14:57 GMT +0700 (which was 17:14 where I live) Thomas Fernandez wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of Cost of X-Ray?: I never really understood the usefulness of the local delivery option. You will, when you come to paying for a TB-Network installation with an expansive dial-up connection bg! -- Regards Michael powered by The BAT! 1.63 Beta/5 with usual problems of Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
ON Tuesday, February 4, 2003, 5:14:57 PM, you wrote: TF If I just want to move a message from one of my accounts to another TF one, I use the move or copy functions of TB. I never really understood TF the usefulness of the local delivery option. Hi Thomas, People will use it for different purposes but I use it to re-direct mail to an other account were I then work with it furter. If you just copy the msg all the headers stay the same. I always have it on, I do not need to test email servers ;-) -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Mortimer, I have deceived you ! l have never played golf in my life ! I dont even know how to hold the caddie! ==P.G Wodehouse - SUNDERED HEARTS == Using The Bat! v1.62h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
On Tuesday, February 4, 2003, 8:19 AM, you wrote: PC yeah!!! I don't get it, my own test message didn't change.. PM Maybe you have Allow local delivery checked under Options -- Network PM Administration that was it, someone else mentioned the local delivery option.. At least I know the answer!! -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
Hello Gerard, On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:37:08 +0100 GMT (05/02/03, 01:37 +0700 GMT), Gerard wrote: TF If I just want to move a message from one of my accounts to another TF one, I use the move or copy functions of TB. I never really understood TF the usefulness of the local delivery option. People will use it for different purposes but I use it to re-direct mail to an other account were I then work with it furter. If you just copy the msg all the headers stay the same. That is for me the exact reason to copy it rather than to redirect. ;-) And thanks to all who explained that this feature is useful in a networked environment. I have used TB only on a stand-alone, so I didn't think into that direction. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. COMMITTEE: A body that keeps minutes and wastes hours. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
On Monday, February 3, 2003, 7:16:16 AM, Peter Meyns wrote: With X-ray you can alter, remove, or add e-mail headers. Look at my X-mailer header for example. :-) The other use of X-Ray is to manage SMTP message routing. For example, on my laptop, I can connect and send mail either from my home email account via a DSL connection, from the office via the office network, or via my mobile phone to a dial-up account. X-Ray automatically sorts out which SMTP server to use depending on the IP address I am connected to. Very clever! Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Robert Golovniov [RG] wrote:'
RG If I want to Redirect message to someone, is there any way The Bat!
RG or X-ray can remove/modify the X-Sender string? I have tried it with
RG X-ray but unsuccessfully.
I don't see why it wouldn't work. You should be able to delete the
X-Sender.
I would create a new filter rule:
Enable SMTP
Filter Action: Delete
Kludge Name: X-Sender (choose from drop down list)
That's it.
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Re: Cost of X-Ray?
On Monday, February 3, 2003, 2:16 AM, you wrote: JH what does this program do for you, that you can't do with Da Brat, err JH The Bat? :-) PM With X-ray you can alter, remove, or add e-mail headers. Look at my PM X-mailer header for example. :-) is the only reason you use it to get rid of TB! in the X-mailer header? -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
Hi Paul, on Mon, 3 Feb 2003 07:31:18 -0500GMT (03.02.03, 13:31 +0100GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : PM With X-ray you can alter, remove, or add e-mail headers. Look at my PM X-mailer header for example. :-) PC is the only reason you use it to get rid of TB! in the X-mailer PC header? Let's say it's the only thing I actually use. In fact, I'm just interested to see what can be done, so I'm playing around with X-ray. I wouldn't say I need it... ;-) -- Cheers Peter Sex is never the answer. Sex is the question. And the answer is YES! Winamp currently playing: Dire Straits - Brothers In Arms Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
On Monday, February 3, 2003, 12:09 PM, you wrote: PM With X-ray you can alter, remove, or add e-mail headers. Look at my PM X-mailer header for example. :-) PC is the only reason you use it to get rid of TB! in the X-mailer PC header? PM Let's say it's the only thing I actually use. In fact, I'm just PM interested to see what can be done, so I'm playing around with X-ray. I PM wouldn't say I need it... ;-) without looking at the README, will it work if I'm already using mercury32 as an SMTP and POP3 server? -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
ON Monday, February 3, 2003, 6:55:30 PM, you wrote: PC without looking at the README, will it work if I'm already using PC mercury32 as an SMTP and POP3 server? Hi Paul, Without looking at the mercury32 readme I would say yes. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Go ahead and putt, you are not interrupting my conversation. Using The Bat! v1.62h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
Hi Paul, on Mon, 3 Feb 2003 12:55:30 -0500GMT (03.02.03, 18:55 +0100GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : PC without looking at the README, will it work if I'm already using PC mercury32 as an SMTP and POP3 server? I can't say anything about this as I don't have my own server installed. However there should be savvy members who could jump in here. I'd be interested too. :-) -- Cheers Peter If privacy is outlawed, only outlaws will have privacy. Winamp currently playing: Hawkwind - The Forge Of Vulcan Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
Hello Kara, On Sun, 2 Feb 2003 20:28:28 -0500 GMT (03/02/03, 08:28 +0700 GMT), Kara Denizi wrote: Using the URL you noted above I couldn't determine the cost of the program. What is the cost and do you use the program yourself? AFAIK, Xray is free. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Bei Vollmond spricht man nicht. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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KD Using the URL you noted above I couldn't determine the cost of the
KD program. What is the cost and do you use the program yourself?
It's free and yes, I do use it personally.
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Re: Cost of X-Ray?
Hi Jurgen, on Mon, 3 Feb 2003 07:29:35 +0100GMT (03.02.03, 07:29 +0100GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : JH what does this program do for you, that you can't do with Da Brat, err JH The Bat? :-) With X-ray you can alter, remove, or add e-mail headers. Look at my X-mailer header for example. :-) -- Cheers Peter If you ate pasta and antipasta, would you still be hungry? Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
