Re: Filters in v3
Hello Chris,
3. TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [B9153070.01C60E1A.5B96D817.1622DA7A]
Name: Lists
Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MoveMessage folder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IsActive
Ignore
IsSendQueue
endFilter
I don't see any problem with this filter. I think your main problem, as
others have pointed out, was the fact that you had all filters set to
continue processing.
Anyway, using 'Sender' has always been a bit confusing for me. I prefer
to use the 'Header field' condition even if I have to OR several header
fields.
Hi MAU,
Yeah, that could have been the problem. Since I disabled that
processing option, all the (true) spam emails have gone to the Spam
folder. All I'm now waiting for is a non-spam email to come in, so I
can see if the rules above the spam filter do indeed move the
messages into the proper folders. I'm subscribed to a few programs
on BetaNews, so hopefully it won't be long before one of those 'this
program has been updated' emails comes in, and then I will see if
the filters are working properly. Once I do, I will post back here.
Yep, the filters seem to be working ok now. So, it was a combination of two
things I think. First was removing the tick from the 'continue processing'
option on each of the rules. Second was changing the Spam rule from 'Sender
contains {nothing}' (which is what it was under in v2 before I upgraded), to
'Any Message'.
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Re: Filters in v3
Hello Chris,
Yep, the filters seem to be working ok now. So, it was a combination
of two things I think. First was removing the tick from the 'continue
processing' option on each of the rules. Second was changing the Spam
rule from 'Sender contains {nothing}' (whic
h is what it was under in v2 before I upgraded), to 'Any Message'.
Glad to hear they are working.
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Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v3.64.03 Christmas Edition
Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
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Re: Filters in v3
Hello Chris, 3. TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [B9153070.01C60E1A.5B96D817.1622DA7A] Name: Lists Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MoveMessage folder [EMAIL PROTECTED] IsActive Ignore IsSendQueue endFilter I don't see any problem with this filter. I think your main problem, as others have pointed out, was the fact that you had all filters set to continue processing. Anyway, using 'Sender' has always been a bit confusing for me. I prefer to use the 'Header field' condition even if I have to OR several header fields. Hi MAU, Yeah, that could have been the problem. Since I disabled that processing option, all the (true) spam emails have gone to the Spam folder. All I'm now waiting for is a non-spam email to come in, so I can see if the rules above the spam filter do indeed move the messages into the proper folders. I'm subscribed to a few programs on BetaNews, so hopefully it won't be long before one of those 'this program has been updated' emails comes in, and then I will see if the filters are working properly. Once I do, I will post back here. -- Chris Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters in v3
Hello Chris, 3. TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [B9153070.01C60E1A.5B96D817.1622DA7A] Name: Lists Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MoveMessage folder [EMAIL PROTECTED] IsActive Ignore IsSendQueue endFilter I don't see any problem with this filter. I think your main problem, as others have pointed out, was the fact that you had all filters set to continue processing. Anyway, using 'Sender' has always been a bit confusing for me. I prefer to use the 'Header field' condition even if I have to OR several header fields. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.64.03 Christmas Edition Winamp Playing: Pasion Vega - Tan Poquita Cosa Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters in v3
Hallo Chris, On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 23:13:38 +1100GMT (5-1-2006, 13:13 +0100, where I live), you wrote: C Can anyone give me some hints so I can try and work out why the C filters don't seem to be working in v3? You mentioned that you unchecked 'continue processing with other filters'. The function of this option hasn't been changed in v3, but what it always had as function was a follows: A message is compared with the filters until it matches one. When a filter is triggered by a message, that message won't be compared with the conditions for the filters under the triggered filter, but when your triggered filter has the 'continue with..' option checked the message is checked against the following filters (until it matches a filter without that option checked) From your description it appears that you're having the option checked for all filters and that would mean that all messages will be caught by your catch all filter at the bottom. And you're complaining that that happens as it should, why that didn't happen with your v2 install is something that I don't understand. Probably something was corrupted and the conversion to v3 fixed this. So my first suggestion would be to drop the 'continue processing..' option for all filters. -- Groetjes, Roelof Apple (c) Copyright 1767, Sir Isaac Newton The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp1PK0EBIVaF.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters in v3
Hello Chris, I'm having a problem with filters since upgrading to v3. ... ... Can anyone give me some hints so I can try and work out why the filters don't seem to be working in v3? Three things: 1.- Exactly which v3 are you using? 2.- While you get your filters to work I would suggest you change your Spam filter to NOT delete messages. 3.- Can you copypaste one of your filters here in the list? To do so, in case you don't know, just select the name of one of your filters and Ctrl+C and then Ctrl+V in your reply. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters in v3
Hallo Chris, On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 23:13:38 +1100GMT (5-1-2006, 13:13 +0100, where I live), you wrote: C Can anyone give me some hints so I can try and work out why the C filters don't seem to be working in v3? You mentioned that you unchecked 'continue processing with other filters'. The function of this option hasn't been changed in v3, but what it always had as function was a follows: A message is compared with the filters until it matches one. When a filter is triggered by a message, that message won't be compared with the conditions for the filters under the triggered filter, but when your triggered filter has the 'continue with..' option checked the message is checked against the following filters (until it matches a filter without that option checked) From your description it appears that you're having the option checked for all filters and that would mean that all messages will be caught by your catch all filter at the bottom. And you're complaining that that happens as it should, why that didn't happen with your v2 install is something that I don't understand. Probably something was corrupted and the conversion to v3 fixed this. So my first suggestion would be to drop the 'continue processing..' option for all filters. Hi Roelof, Ok, I've removed the check from all the continue processing options. I thought that option was to tell The Bat! to continue with the other filters if it didn't find a match for the first filter, which is why I had them all checked. If The Bat! continues on with all the other filters if the very first one doesn't match, than all the better. Anyway, I will see if removing the check fixes the problem. -- Groetjes, Roelof Apple (c) Copyright 1767, Sir Isaac Newton The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM -- Chris Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters in v3
Hello Chris,
I'm having a problem with filters since upgrading to v3.
...
...
Can anyone give me some hints so I can try and work out why the
filters don't seem to be working in v3?
Three things:
1.- Exactly which v3 are you using?
2.- While you get your filters to work I would suggest you change your
Spam filter to NOT delete messages.
3.- Can you copypaste one of your filters here in the list? To do so,
in case you don't know, just select the name of one of your filters and
Ctrl+C and then Ctrl+V in your reply.
Hi Miguel,
1. v3.64.01
2. Ok, done. Now all the messages just go to the inbox.
3. TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [B9153070.01C60E1A.5B96D817.1622DA7A]
Name: Lists
Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MoveMessage folder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IsActive
Ignore
IsSendQueue
endFilter
The 'Spam' filter itself (straight after the upgrade), consisted of:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [D5505438.01C611BF.617A6912.6629D95E]
Name: Spam
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`21\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
This was with the Sender field contains nothing. I thought that may have been
the problem, so I changed it to:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [D5505438.01C611BF.617A6912.6629D95E]
Name: Spam
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`21\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
which is Any Message. That wasn't the problem I worked out - because neither of
them work.
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Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition
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Re: Filters in v3 (and perhaps v2 as well for all I know)
Hallo Stuart, On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 10:54:10 +0100GMT (9-9-2004, 11:54 +0200, where I live), you wrote: SM Filters are driving me potty. Don't despair. SM I belong to a mailing list for Pentax camera owners. This list has SM a lot of messages a day but I am only interested in messages that SM are about my camera, That's understandable. SM namely a *ist D - a stupid name I know. But a nice camera SM However, what I really want to do, is delete any messages SM that do not contain these. ACK SM However, having removed the virtual folder and create a new filter SM on the inbox using the same criteria I find I get NO matches!! I guess that you had a filter in place that moved Pentax messages to another folder. Now if you follow that with a filter that will be triggered by a subselection of the same messages it won't do that, unless you set the option 'continue processing with other filters' (both v2 and v3) or when you make the second filter a subfilter for the first (v3 only) As you're looking for something that'll work for both v2 and v3, you could try this: Filter1: Sender contains list-address AND message source does not contain *ist d AND message source does not contain *istd Action move to trash Filter2: Sender contains list-address Action move to folder Filters are processed top down in the sorting office. As filter1 processes every list message without '*ist d' and '*istd' the only list messages that filter2 will see are those with either one or both of these strings. So filter2 doesn't need to be more specific than this. When you'd change the order of these two filters, this solution wouldn't work anymore, because filter2 picked all of the messages, therefore letting filter1 run dry. To prevent this you'd need to set 'continue processing with other filters' on filter2 and you'd need to set the source folder for filter1 to the target folder of filter2. Changing the order would have two disadvantages. 1: Most of your list messages will be processed twice by a filter, this takes time 2: Your filters are getting more complicated 3: Even though they're deleted from your list folder, the unwanted list messages will be copied to your list folder and therefore they'll take space until the next time you're compressing that folder. Note: Most people tend to skip on characters that are neither letter nor number (hardly anybody on this list talks about 'The Bat!') and unless Pentax owners differ on this point (what I cannot imagine, myself owning a Pentax as secondary camera) they'll tend to skip the asterix, so you could do that too. -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 3.0.0.8 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. pgpAw4aK00tkK.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters in v3 (and perhaps v2 as well for all I know)
Hallo Stuart, On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 15:14:23 +0100GMT (9-9-2004, 16:14 +0200, where I live), you wrote: SM [*]ist[-][d] in the subject line or main text (where [] SM denotes optional and this is a complete word so I do not get SM matches on words beginning with ist) SM I assume this should be something along these lines: SM (?i)^*?ist-?d?$ A dash? I thought it was *ist d I'd go for ^\*?ist\s?d$ \s standing for a space Why do you give an option for the 'd', without that it's an analog slr IIRC. SM I am guessing that * and - have special meanings so I can not do it this way. You can escape special characters by using a backslash. RO Note: Most people tend to skip on characters that are neither letter RO nor number (hardly anybody on this list talks about 'The Bat!') and SM Sadly, a very high proportion of the members include the *. That's not so bad, after all you can search for it. -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 3.0.0.8 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. pgpaCEOVYilth.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
