Re: Is Anyone Able to Send Korean Email?

2006-08-02 Thread Keith Russell

MFPA wrote:


I get none when composing. When viewing a message, all 7 are under
other character sets.


Assuming that ISO means ISO-2022, the first 3 are common encodings.
Conspicuously missing, however, is KSC, which is very common, and
standard. Is that one of the ones you have?


My other three are listed as:-

Korean ks_c_5601-1987


That's the one I'm missing. Can anyone else tell me why I don't have 
KSC-5601 in my list, and how I can get it?



IBM EBDIC Korean Extended
IBM EBDIC Korean And Korean Extended


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Re: Is Anyone Able to Send Korean Email?

2006-07-31 Thread MFPA

Hi

On Saturday 29 July 2006 at 6:48:54 AM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Russell wrote:


 Where did you find 7 Korean character sets?

No idea. I do not use them and I don't know the language.

 I only see 4 when viewing a message (EUC, ISO, Johab, and
 Mac)--none at all when composing a message.

I get none when composing. When viewing a message, all 7 are under
other character sets.

 Assuming that ISO means ISO-2022, the first 3 are common encodings.
 Conspicuously missing, however, is KSC, which is very common, and
 standard. Is that one of the ones you have?

My other three are listed as:-

Korean ks_c_5601-1987
IBM EBDIC Korean Extended
IBM EBDIC Korean And Korean Extended

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Re: Is Anyone Able to Send Korean Email?

2006-07-30 Thread Keith Russell
Hello, fellow Bat-lovers.

On Wednesday, July 26, 2006 at 00:10:53GMT +0100 (which was 5:10 PM where I 
live) MFPA wrote and made these points on the subject of Is Anyone Able to 
Send Korean Email?:

 Hi

 On Tuesday 25 July 2006 at 5:49:45 AM, in
 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Russell wrote:

 As you can see from the following, it seems to work just fine:

 ьЭ+ъ-ГьЭ+ эХЬъжнызРьЮЕыЛИыЛд.

 This is readable in both The Bat! and in Thunderbird.

 Here it does not display in any of the 7 Korean character sets
 listed under more character sets: some show squares, some
 question marks and others message and most of headers blank.
 However, using auto-detect it displays in Cyrillic (DOS)- cp866.

Thanks very much for your reply. After receiving it, I checked my
original message again, and was puzzled to see that it no longer
displayed hangeul, but just a string of boxes. Then I realized that I
had been running NJStar Communicator when I viewed it the first time. So it
appears that The Bat! still does not allow the viewing of Korean
hangeul.

Interesting, viewing it in the quote above, it displays natively as
Cyrillic characters; with NJStar running, it displays garbage Chinese
characters mixed with hangeul.

Where did you find 7 Korean character sets? I only see 4 when viewing
a message (EUC, ISO, Johab, and Mac)--none at all when composing a
message.

Assuming that ISO means ISO-2022, the first 3 are common encodings.
Conspicuously missing, however, is KSC, which is very common, and
standard. Is that one of the ones you have?

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Re: Is Anyone Able to Send Korean Email?

2006-07-26 Thread Laura
(reply to message of Wednesday, July 26, 2006)

Hi Chris,

 Which editor are you using? MicroEd doesn't support Unicode input
 at all. The Windows editor supports it to some degree (i.e., I
 cannot enter text using Keyman, but I can at least copy and paste
 it).

 On issue, however, is that The Bat! no longer hard-wraps the lines
 to a reasonable width (which seems to be the preferred style here on
 TBUDL).

Yes, I noticed that, and that's the main reason I don't use the
windows editor although I would like that, because of the fonts.

I like the way the microEditor handles the wrapping of lines.

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Re: Is Anyone Able to Send Korean Email?

2006-07-26 Thread MFPA

Hi

On Tuesday 25 July 2006 at 5:49:45 AM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Russell wrote:

 As you can see from the following, it seems to work just fine:

 ьЭ+ъ-ГьЭ+ эХЬъжнызРьЮЕыЛИыЛд.

 This is readable in both The Bat! and in Thunderbird.

Here it does not display in any of the 7 Korean character sets
listed under more character sets: some show squares, some
question marks and others message and most of headers blank.
However, using auto-detect it displays in Cyrillic (DOS)- cp866.

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Re: Is Anyone Able to Send Korean Email?

2006-07-25 Thread Keith Russell
Hello, fellow Bat-lovers.

On Sunday, July 23, 2006 at 22:53:19GMT -0400 (which was 8:53 PM where I live) 
Chris W. wrote and made these points on the subject of Is Anyone Able to Send 
Korean Email?:

 Which editor are you using? MicroEd doesn't support Unicode input at
 all. The Windows editor supports it to some degree (i.e., I cannot
 enter text using Keyman, but I can at least copy and paste it).

Thank you, Chris! A simple solution.

I have never had any desire to use the Windows editor, have never experimented 
with it, and didn't even think of testing it for Korean.

As you can see from the following, it seems to work just fine:

이것이 한국말입니다.

This is readable in both The Bat! and in Thunderbird. Whether other clients 
will be able to handle it remains to be seen, but it is a step forward.

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Re: Is Anyone Able to Send Korean Email?

2006-07-25 Thread Chris W .

Keith Russell @ 2006-7-25 12:49:45 AM
Is Anyone Able to Send Korean Email? mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I have never had any desire to use the Windows editor, have never
 experimented with it, and didn't even think of testing it for
 Korean.

 As you can see from the following, it seems to work just fine:

 ??? ??.

Except, I don't have the aforementioned ISO-2022 DLL. Try Unicode:

Ĉiu morgaŭ havas sian zorgon.

(hopefully, that shows up...)

 This is readable in both The Bat! and in Thunderbird.

On issue, however, is that The Bat! no longer hard-wraps the lines to
a reasonable width (which seems to be the preferred style here on
TBUDL).

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Re: Is Anyone Able to Send Korean Email?

2006-07-25 Thread Keith Russell
Hello, Chris and fellow Bat-lovers.

On Tuesday, July 25, 2006 at 21:30:07GMT -0400 (which was 7:30 PM where I live) 
Chris W. wrote and made these points on the subject of Is Anyone Able to Send 
Korean Email?:

 Keith Russell @ 2006-7-25 12:49:45 AM
 Is Anyone Able to Send Korean Email?
 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I have never had any desire to use the Windows editor, have never
 experimented with it, and didn't even think of testing it for
 Korean.

 As you can see from the following, it seems to work just fine:

 ??? ??.

 Except, I don't have the aforementioned ISO-2022 DLL. Try Unicode:

Hmmm...so you need to have the DLL to view it?

I set the encoding to Unicode (since there are no Korean choices), but I 
suspect that that has no effect.

 Ĉiu morgaŭ havas sian zorgon.

 (hopefully, that shows up...)

Yes, it looks good. Your native language? ;-)

How did you enter it?

 On issue, however, is that The Bat! no longer hard-wraps the lines to
 a reasonable width (which seems to be the preferred style here on
 TBUDL).

You lost me here. Are you saying that's the result of using the Windows editor, 
or something else? Is there a way in the Windows editor to get the effect of a 
Ctrl-L to reformat a paragraph?

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Re: Is Anyone Able to Send Korean Email?

2006-07-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Keith,

On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 22:49:45 -0600 GMT (25/07/2006, 11:49 +0700 GMT),
Keith Russell wrote:


KR As you can see from the following, it seems to work just fine:

KR ??? ??.

KR This is readable in both The Bat! and in Thunderbird.

Not here, but that's probably a question of the font. I'm not aware of
having a Korean font on my computer; can you name a popular one, and
probably where I can download it?

I have problems with reading (displaying) mails that have a Korean
character set, even though they use only English letters in the mail.
All characters (including headers!) are displayed as Chinese
characters for some reason. I have to right-click in the body of the
mail and choose Western European and then the body is displayed
correctly. This is a long-standing bug which I am experiencing still
with 3.80.03 in the office. Haven't received a mail from Korea with
this beta yet, but I don't think this has been fixed.

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Re: Is Anyone Able to Send Korean Email?

2006-07-25 Thread Chris W .


Keith Russell @ 2006-7-25 9:41:03 PM
Is Anyone Able to Send Korean Email? mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 As you can see from the following, it seems to work just fine:
 ??? ??.
 Except, I don't have the aforementioned ISO-2022 DLL. Try Unicode:
 Hmmm...so you need to have the DLL to view it?

Perhaps, but upon further reflection, it's more likely due to not having a font 
with the Korean characters.

 Ĉiu morgaŭ havas sian zorgon.
 (hopefully, that shows up...)
 Yes, it looks good. Your native language? ;-)

Nope. In fact, it's Esperanto, an international auxiliary language. Thus, it's 
not really anyone's native language.

 How did you enter it?

I have a program called Keyman that converts certian keystrokes into the proper 
characters. So, when I type Cxiu morgaux, it gets turned into Ĉiu morgaŭ.

 On issue, however, is that The Bat! no longer hard-wraps the lines to
 a reasonable width (which seems to be the preferred style here on
 TBUDL).
 You lost me here. Are you saying that's the result of using the
 Windows editor, or something else?

Yes, as a result of the Windows editor.

 Is there a way in the Windows
 editor to get the effect of a Ctrl-L to reformat a paragraph?

Not that I know of.

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Re: Is Anyone Able to Send Korean Email?

2006-07-23 Thread Chris W .

Keith Russell @ 2006-7-23 10:40:49 PM
Is Anyone Able to Send Korean Email? mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 After years of waiting for this feature, I thought I'd try again to
 input some Korean text. Although I have downloaded and installed the
 ISO-2022 DLL, when I try to enter Korean hangeul letters, I get
 nothing but question marks. The list of encodings includes a couple
 of Japanese encodings, but Korean is not in the list. Selecting
 UTF-8 does not help, either.

Which editor are you using? MicroEd doesn't support Unicode input at
all. The Windows editor supports it to some degree (i.e., I cannot
enter text using Keyman, but I can at least copy and paste it).

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