Re: Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
Thomas Fernandez: Luca wrote: L We're talking of a typing L syndrome. TB's MicroEd (any mode) requires a heavy modification of deeply L rooted and continuously practised typing habits. I could agree with you if L TB's way were common among all the other programs, or if I could use TB as my L sole and only editor, but it isn't. Well, I for one like the way MicroEd behaves. However, I understand that you want an editor that behaves like Word, is that correct? Yes. In my specific case: Agent and Dialog or, if we're talking about word processing, Open Office, as well as any editor of common use, excluding a programmer's one, like MicroEd seems more to be. Dialog in particular seems pretty close to perfection, for email and news messages editing: it's capable to perform all the email related tasks that MicroEd particularly does as well, without the alt+l/double return syndrome. However, there was a wish once that one should be able to use any external editor of choice, and some would want to use ViM. I don't know what became of that wish. Ah yes, the external editor solution, but that way you loose any interaction between the editor and the mail client. And what about specific email related functions, e.g. quotes handling? Definetly not a solution, IMO. Seems to me more like a programmer's virtuosity, only an end to itself. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
Alexander S. Kunz: on 25-Dez-2005 at 18:33 you (Luca) wrote: Since you insist No, I do not insist. I tried to help by providing a workaround for the problem you have. If I say I want to be able to hit return once and you say then hit it twice, that's not what I'd call a workaround. Obviously, it's not only a one-key difference. We're talking of a typing syndrome. TB's MicroEd (any mode) requires a heavy modification of deeply rooted and continuously practised typing habits. I could agree with you if TB's way were common among all the other programs, or if I could use TB as my sole and only editor, but it isn't. I can't stop using other programs and editors, and I can't be hunted for the rest of my life by the alt-l/double return syndrome at every line I write, both here and there, in a way and its opposit. I think we have a little bit of a misunderstanding here. I don't *want* anything. ... All I'm saying is that *if* the WinEd continues to behave like it does (currently), format-flowed should be implemented correctly. So, you do want something, at least something to be done just in case. And that something, the way you're proposing it, would prevent other's people needings to be fulfilled, since TB is very unlinkely going to get a fourth editor. Usually, paragraphs are separated with one return and, possibly, an indent. I assume we're still talking about email :-) And I assume I'm talking with people who doesn't write only email and only with TB. The keyword here is typing habits, as I wrote above. See, you're minimizing the most repelling obstacle that people find on their way starting to use TB coming from other programs. It's not a matter of getting used to a new program. It comes to a TB or not TB, that's the question. Only a correct implementation of format-flowed (as in any word processor) I don't want format flowed because in email - unlike in any word processor format - you can't specify line lenght as a paragraph attribute. We'll ever need hard returns at the end of each line to obtain wysiwyg in email. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
Hello Luca, please, go elsewhere and stop bothering me with your endless rants. You don't want to understand, do you? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) To witness suffering and do nothing is betrayal. -- Patrick Douglas Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
Hello Luca, On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 11:40:28 +0100 GMT (26/12/2005, 17:40 +0700 GMT), Luca wrote: L Obviously, it's not only a one-key difference. We're talking of a typing L syndrome. TB's MicroEd (any mode) requires a heavy modification of deeply L rooted and continuously practised typing habits. I could agree with you if L TB's way were common among all the other programs, or if I could use TB as my L sole and only editor, but it isn't. Well, I for one like the way MicroEd behaves. However, I understand that you want an editor that behaves like Word, is that correct? I would think that the Windows Editor does that, but apparently not. Handing in a wish to the wishlist is the way to go. L I can't stop using other programs and editors, and I can't be hunted for the L rest of my life by the alt-l/double return syndrome at every line I write, L both here and there, in a way and its opposit. That's correct. There has been a request to make a stand-alone version of MicroEd for those who want to use it outside of TB as well. L So, you do want something, at least something to be done just in case. L And that something, the way you're proposing it, would prevent other's L people needings to be fulfilled, since TB is very unlinkely going to get L a fourth editor. You could be right, I also don't think there will be a fourth editor. However, there was a wish once that one should be able to use any external editor of choice, and some would want to use ViM. I don't know what became of that wish. -- Cheers, Thomas. FLATULANCE: Emergency vehicle that picks you up when you've been run over by a steam roller http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
Alexander S. Kunz: IMHO, the settings for the Windows editor should be separated from Microed. If one chooses to hard-wrap messages at column 72 or whatever, TB should do so before sending to supply the same WYSIWYG principle of Microed. But if one chooses to use the flowed format (aka the way the Windows editor is working now), it should a) add the flowed headers to the outgoing message and b) not cause the false impression of wrapping by formatting the text while typing (but using the fill window width just as well). No. I don't want format flowed. I want at least one typing mode capable to automatically reformat paragraphs separated by *one* hit of my return key when I'm editing the message, *and* I want to send my messages with hard returns at the end of each line. A proper solution, IMO, would be like the one proposed by Bill McQuillan in the bug report page that you indicated. If you don't want to call such an editor a wysiwyg one anymore, so be it. For me, it is: what I /see/ is exactly what I'll get when I send the message. Is what I /code/ that's different, and only while I'm typing, but who cares? TB already has another what-you-/code/-is-what-you-get editor, so let's people out here get at least one Agent-like editor, among the three (!) that TB already has. This thing is a must for a mail client, a primary and elemetary feature. There are two reasons why I didn't give up long time ago with TB: (1) Ritlabs introduced the Windows-like editor and I still hope they'll make it work the way I hope, (2) I desperately need templates, macros and automations. If I didn't need (2) I would have uninstalled The Bat and forgotten Ritlabs the split moment I realized the way TB forces me to type. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
Hello Luca everyone else, on 25-Dez-2005 at 11:46 you (Luca) wrote: No. I don't want format flowed. I want at least one typing mode capable to automatically reformat paragraphs separated by *one* hit of my return key when I'm editing the message, *and* I want to send my messages with hard returns at the end of each line. *shrug* Then use MicroEd and turn on auto-formatting. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Please, Lord, let me prove that winning the lottery won't spoil me. Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
Alexander S. Kunz: on 25-Dez-2005 at 11:46 you (Luca) wrote: No. I don't want format flowed. I want at least one typing mode capable to automatically reformat paragraphs separated by *one* hit of my return key when I'm editing the message, *and* I want to send my messages with hard returns at the end of each line. *shrug* Then use MicroEd and turn on auto-formatting. Oh, please ... MicroEd can't do as above (and you know it :-) -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
Hello Luca everyone else, on 25-Dez-2005 at 11:53 you (Luca) wrote: No. I don't want format flowed. I want at least one typing mode capable to automatically reformat paragraphs separated by *one* hit of my return key when I'm editing the message, *and* I want to send my messages with hard returns at the end of each line. *shrug* Then use MicroEd and turn on auto-formatting. Oh, please ... MicroEd can't do as above (and you know it :-) You can turn auto-formatting in MicroEd on off easily with CTRL+SHIFT+F and have almost what you need. It won't spare you from hitting return twice when you want to create a real paragraph, however. Because *paragraphs* are separated with an empty line usually. :-) There's always a certain point where automatisms fail. Microsoft Word is driving me insane frequently because of that. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive, difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it. -- Gene Spafford, 1992 Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
On 23/12/2005 at 2:04:01 PM [GMT -0500], Alexander S. Kunz wrote: I'm not sure but from my POV it is correct that there are no hard linebreaks in these messages. However, TB doesn't add the correct Content-Type header for this type of messages (from which the recipients MUA can determine that it should wrap the lines accordingly). Content-Type: text/plain; charset=whatever; format=flowed; delsp=yes As to that RFC, I don't see the logic in introducing it when clients aren't ready for it. I've yet to come across a supporting client, whose viewer works well with it. With ThunderBird and Mulberry that both support it, all that format flowed option does is convert what's nicely flowed text to 72 characters to streams of text that window wrap. So yes, it unravels the text for the recipient to wrap at their own length, but then, there's no mechanism for the user to wrap except the window margin which isn't always useful. This is why most text editors/viewers will offer a line wrapping mode for viewing at a specific character limit. -- -= Curtis =- The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition / http://specs.aimlink.name PGPKey: http://rsakey.aimlink.name ...Folks who think they know it all bug those of us who do Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
Hello Curtis everyone else, on 25-Dez-2005 at 13:23 you (Curtis) wrote: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=whatever; format=flowed; delsp=yes As to that RFC, I don't see the logic in introducing it when clients aren't ready for it. Then the whole RFC would be questionable. :-) A lot of clients make terrible mistakes or don't follow the RFCs very much. Its about time that the flowed format becomes reality IMHO, and if TB is one of the few clients that supports it propperly, it would be nice. I've yet to come across a supporting client, whose viewer works well with it. Opera's M2 does support it quite well (IMHO). there's no mechanism for the user to wrap except the window margin which isn't always useful. This is why most text editors/viewers will offer a line wrapping mode for viewing at a specific character limit. Yes, the viewer should support wrapping at a user specified column of course, not only at the window border. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time - I think I've forgotten this before. -- Stephen Wright Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
On 25/12/2005 at 10:49:53 AM [GMT -0500], Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Its about time that the flowed format becomes reality IMHO, and if TB is one of the few clients that supports it propperly, it would be nice. It's an excellent concept that would make all happy, if the clients supported it well across the board. I've yet to come across a supporting client, whose viewer works well with it. Opera's M2 does support it quite well (IMHO). Never really used that one. :) there's no mechanism for the user to wrap except the window margin which isn't always useful. This is why most text editors/viewers will offer a line wrapping mode for viewing at a specific character limit. Yes, the viewer should support wrapping at a user specified column of course, not only at the window border. This is imperative to the format=flowed system working well. -- -= Curtis =- The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition / http://specs.aimlink.name PGPKey: http://rsakey.aimlink.name ...Individualists of the world, UNITE! Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
Alexander S. Kunz: on 25-Dez-2005 at 11:53 you (Luca) wrote: No. I don't want format flowed. I want at least one typing mode capable to automatically reformat paragraphs separated by *one* hit of my return key when I'm editing the message, *and* I want to send my messages with hard returns at the end of each line. You can turn auto-formatting in MicroEd on off easily with CTRL+SHIFT+F and have almost what you need. It won't spare you from hitting return twice when you want to create a real paragraph, however. Since you insist, let's switch position, for a moment. You said: |If one chooses to hard-wrap messages at column 72 or whatever, TB should do |so before sending to supply the same WYSIWYG principle of Microed. | |But if one chooses to use the flowed format (aka the way the Windows |editor is working now), it should a) add the flowed headers to the |outgoing message and b) not cause the false impression of wrapping by |formatting the text while typing (but using the fill window width just as |well). So you want the Windows-like editor to be able (1) to send format-flowed messages or (2) to send hard-wrapped lines, other possible modes being excluded. Well, why don't you leave the Windows-like editor alone for other people's needings and do what you like using MicroEd? You can easily obtain (1) simply by setting text wrapping at a very high value (maximum is 32 thousand characters, it should be enough) and inserting format-flowed headers. See? There is no need to cripple down the Winlike editor to correctly obtain format-flowed. Oh, yes, reading your one-line paragraphs in your editor window would require a little effort with your scroll bar, but ... well, there's always a certain point where automatisms fail, don't you agree? Because *paragraphs* are separated with an empty line usually. :-) Usually, paragraphs are separated with one return and, possibly, an indent. You can *choose* to insert empty lines in email to improve readability, but you should never be forced to use them to make a not-smart-enough editor capable to perform autoformatting tasks. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
Hello Luca everyone else, on 25-Dez-2005 at 18:33 you (Luca) wrote: Since you insist No, I do not insist. I tried to help by providing a workaround for the problem you have. So you want the Windows-like editor [...] I think we have a little bit of a misunderstanding here. I don't *want* anything. I'm happy with MicroEd the way it is. All I'm saying is that *if* the WinEd continues to behave like it does (currently), format-flowed should be implemented correctly. And I only say that *because* the way WinEd behaves now is closer to it than MicroEd, thats all. I just tried to explain whats going on behind the scenes. And WinEd is simply much more wordprocessor like than MicroEd is. You can formulate your own wishes for an editor the way you would like to have it into a wish on the Ritlabs bug tracker page. Because *paragraphs* are separated with an empty line usually. :-) Usually, paragraphs are separated with one return and, possibly, an indent. In some regions of the world, that may be true. I don't know. I assume we're still talking about email :-) and for emails, an empty line is used as the established standard (its a bit of a historical thing from the days of the crude old textbased 80x25 terminals). Because email editors and word processors were really two very different worlds in the past. Only a correct implementation of format-flowed (as in any word processor) will allow true paragraph formatting with user-definable spacing before and/or after paragraphs for email like in a word processor. And just to make it clear: I really don't mind which of TBs editors could possibly maybe :-) create correct output. I'm just pro format-flowed. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Drill for oil? You mean drill into the ground to try and find oil? You're crazy! -- Drillers who Edwin L. Drake tried to enlist to his project to drill for oil in 1859. Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
Luca wrote: The Windows editor, like most other editors for Windows, virtual wraps as you edit, using the specified character limit in the options. That means that TB's Windows-like editor is useless, plain and simple. If there is no way to send messages with correct line wrapping, one can't use it, and I can't see any point in putting it in. One can use it, and it's interesting (to me) to see how these sorts of basic functionality issues still bug people now, six years after I first started using TB! ?!? Wow. Ahh the memories of 1.39 and chatter of integrating a Usenet client... ;) Myself, I still hate the way the editor works in many common cases but chalk it up to, hey at least it sends what it shows, unlike Outlook which happily (and often incorrectly) reformats your message before sending it. IMHO Agent had a really nice text editor, unfortunately they enhance the Usenet functionality and somehow utterly fail to put the same features into the email side. The biggest negative to Agent's editor, which is solved by TB!'s untelligent way of handling input, is simply that MicroEd doesn't wrap text if you don't add text beyond end-of-line. So I can get long lines easily, say if I want to post source code that has 80-character lines. sigh The more things change... -tom! -- Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
Alexander S. Kunz: on 23-Dez-2005 at 12:53 you (Luca) wrote: But if I write a message using the Windows-like editor, lines wrappings get lost as soon as I save the message. Then, recipients get a message with lines as long as the whole paragraph. I'm not sure but from my POV it is correct that there are no hard linebreaks in these messages. The Windows-like editor could come in handy when users don't need the advanced features of MicroEd, so they can't see any reason why they should suffer the pains of alt+(hel)l. But if it's correct to use MicroEd to write and send plain text messages /with/ line wrappings, I can't see why it's correct to send them /without/ line wrappings, only because I use another editor. They're just plain text messages in both cases, if there's a reason to wrap lines at 72, it stands even when I change editor. However, TB doesn't add the correct Content-Type header for this type of messages (from which the recipients MUA can determine that it should wrap the lines accordingly). Content-Type: text/plain; charset=whatever; format=flowed; delsp=yes This is interesting as a workaround. Adding these ones as custom fields in TB should solve the problem, at least with certain recipients, right? But how many mail readers can correctly handle them? Here's the bug report: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5016 Thanx, I was looking up in the wrong category (editor instead of mail management). By the way ... Merry Christmas to all, here :-) -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
Hello Luca everyone else, on 24-Dez-2005 at 20:12 you (Luca) wrote: I'm not sure but from my POV it is correct that there are no hard linebreaks in these messages. The Windows-like editor could come in handy when users don't need the advanced features of MicroEd, so they can't see any reason why they should suffer the pains of alt+(hel)l. But if it's correct to use MicroEd to write and send plain text messages /with/ line wrappings, I can't see why it's correct to send them /without/ line wrappings, only because I use another editor. They're just plain text messages in both cases, if there's a reason to wrap lines at 72, it stands even when I change editor. Well, yes and no. TB clearly has a bug here, but messages should not be hard-wrapped by default when using the Windows editor. IMHO, the settings for the Windows editor should be separated from Microed. If one chooses to hard-wrap messages at column 72 or whatever, TB should do so before sending to supply the same WYSIWYG principle of Microed. But if one chooses to use the flowed format (aka the way the Windows editor is working now), it should a) add the flowed headers to the outgoing message and b) not cause the false impression of wrapping by formatting the text while typing (but using the fill window width just as well). -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Science is built of facts the way a house is built of bricks, but an accumulation of facts is no more science than a pile of bricks is a house. -- Henri Poincare Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
Hello Luca, Friday, December 23, 2005, 5:53:01 AM, you wrote: L I can't understand how the Windows-like editor works, as far as line wrapping L is concerned. L In my viewer/editor|editor preferences dialog box, it says: L General (common for all editors) L Wrap text at 72 characters L But if I write a message using the Windows-like editor, lines wrappings get L lost as soon as I save the message. Then, recipients get a message with lines L as long as the whole paragraph. L Help file doesn't help. Can't find faqs or bug reports about this. IF you find out let me know. I asked this question before and got no replies. It seems to depend on the size of the window you are in and totally ignores the 72 character limit. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
On 23/12/2005 at 6:53:01 AM [GMT -0500], Luca wrote: I can't understand how the Windows-like editor works, as far as line wrapping is concerned. TB!'s original editor was microEd. It does no virtual wrapping of text. As MicroEd wraps text, it's hard wrapped. You'll see what I mean if after typing a few lines of text with MicroEd, you copy paste it to notepad and then toggle NotePads line wrapping on and off. Because of MicroEd's ability, TB! never did have a wrap on send feature. The Windows editor, like most other editors for Windows, virtual wraps as you edit, using the specified character limit in the options. If you copy a few lines of text you've typed in the Windows editor and paste it in NotePad, you'll note that the text isn't *really* wrapped. So, on sending, the text is sent formatted as is, i.e., with no wrapping. -- -= Curtis =- The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition / http://specs.aimlink.name PGPKey: http://rsakey.aimlink.name ...Honey, PLEASE don't pick up the [EMAIL PROTECTED]$^(#@$^%(*NO CARRIER Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
Curtis: The Windows editor, like most other editors for Windows, virtual wraps as you edit, using the specified character limit in the options. If you copy a few lines of text you've typed in the Windows editor and paste it in NotePad, you'll note that the text isn't *really* wrapped. So, on sending, the text is sent formatted as is, i.e., with no wrapping. That means that TB's Windows-like editor is useless, plain and simple. If there is no way to send messages with correct line wrapping, one can't use it, and I can't see any point in putting it in. I myself got used to MicroEd, with time, but a friend of mine, coming from Outlook, of course he can't bear alt+l, nor the auto-format feature the way it works in MicroEd. He *needs* a Windows-like text editor, and I myself would like a lot to get rid of alt+l. If a way to put hard returns in the right place before sending can't be found, with the Windows-like editor, then I'd say that TB has three editors but none of them is completely usable. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
On 23/12/2005 at 12:36:18 PM [GMT -0500], Luca wrote: That means that TB's Windows-like editor is useless, plain and simple. If there is no way to send messages with correct line wrapping, one can't use it, and I can't see any point in putting it in. Depends on perspective I guess. Though my sentiments are as yours, there are those who believe sent lines should not be wrapped. In this way, the recipient can view the lines whichever way he wishes. In fact, there's a new RFC that tries to address this issue of line wrapping that works for all, i.e., sender and recipient. I myself got used to MicroEd, with time, but a friend of mine, coming from Outlook, of course he can't bear alt+l, nor the auto-format feature the way it works in MicroEd. He *needs* a Windows-like text editor, and I myself would like a lot to get rid of alt+l. Unlike the Windows editor that handles like 'standard' Windows editors, it doesn't really work. However, MicroEd *works*, but has an unfamiliar handle to it. What made me grow accustomed to MicroEds quirky handling was the fact it works extremely well for e-mail formatting. You can trust that what you see in front of you is what the recipient will get. If a way to put hard returns in the right place before sending can't be found, with the Windows-like editor, then I'd say that TB has three editors but none of them is completely usable. The only way to do that is manually, sort of like in the old days of mechanical type writers. You don't have a 'ching' sound to give you the cue, but you could use set the Window width to the desired line length. :) -- -= Curtis =- The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition / http://specs.aimlink.name PGPKey: http://rsakey.aimlink.name ...I have enough trouble single-tasking! Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line wrapping in plain text (Windows) editor
Hello Luca everyone else, on 23-Dez-2005 at 12:53 you (Luca) wrote: But if I write a message using the Windows-like editor, lines wrappings get lost as soon as I save the message. Then, recipients get a message with lines as long as the whole paragraph. I'm not sure but from my POV it is correct that there are no hard linebreaks in these messages. However, TB doesn't add the correct Content-Type header for this type of messages (from which the recipients MUA can determine that it should wrap the lines accordingly). Content-Type: text/plain; charset=whatever; format=flowed; delsp=yes Help file doesn't help. Can't find faqs or bug reports about this. Here's the bug report: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5016 Please add a supporting note to it. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) From whence then could arise the solitary and strange conceit, that the almighty, who had millions of worlds equally dependant on his protection, should quit the care of all the rest, because they say one woman and one man had eaten an apple! -- Thomas Paine Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html