Re: The Bat! - suggestions - improved search option
Greg- Thursday, August 21, 2003, 8:05:44 PM, you wrote: GS By 'escape' do you mean match the literal character? Yep. Thanks. I forgot about the Advanced tab. That should do the trick. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! - suggestions - improved search option
Hello Carsten, I agree with you... sometimes i feel i need something like the following: - search all mails with subject project and my email is in cc field or - if my email is in the cc field, filter it to another folder but current search/filter (i suppose their matching algorithm are shared) cannot do such a multiple/precise match. (thebat support once gave me some dirty trick to use reg-ex to match the whole text, but it sometimes is inaccurate) i really hope a better search dialog, with multiple conditions, etc. (Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows NT Clone 5.2 Build 3790 ) -- Best regards, Samsonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wednesday, August 20, 2003, 11:55:54 PM, you wrote: CT hello, CT I tried to send this suggestion to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but the server CT rejected the mail. So I post it here for discussion: CT I´d like to see an improved search-option for messages, above all CT multiple search-fields with options like includes ..., not includes CT and a linkage between the fields like and, or. The search option in CT Eudora is a good example. In my opinion, if you save lots of CT information in your email-archive, a simple search option is not CT sufficient. CT best wishes CT Carten Thinius CT CT Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: CT http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! - suggestions - improved search option
Hello Carsten! On Thursday, August 21, 2003, 1:55 AM, you wrote, in part: C I tried to send this suggestion to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but the server C rejected the mail. ... Go to this URL https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/ and create an account for yourself. Then you can put your suggestion on the wish list: to see the wish list, you have to use a Switch button in the upper righthand corner of the page. This information is found at http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html which URL is at the bottom of every message on TBUDL. (Sometimes it's easy to forget about that resource :) ) Marck D. Pearlstone explained the change to me in message ID [EMAIL PROTECTED] on August 16. He said: MB The wish list address turns out to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP These addresses are no longer the primary entry points. Instead MDP there is now a complete web interface where Wishes can be viewed, MDP added to and commented upon. MDP The address for the online BugTraq/Wishlist system is https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/ And I agree with you, a more advanced search system would be most useful. Please go to the site and post your wish!! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! - suggestions - improved search option
Hello Carsten, I´d like to see an improved search-option for messages, above all multiple search-fields with options like includes ..., not includes and a linkage between the fields like and, or. The search option in Eudora is a good example. In my opinion, if you save lots of information in your email-archive, a simple search option is not sufficient. How about the ability to save a search? Never used Eudora so I don't know what is available in it. -- Best regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! - suggestions - improved search option
Hello Carsten, CT I tried to send this suggestion to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but the server CT rejected the mail. So I post it here for discussion: You should use commands from the Help|Feedback menu to write us - this helps us to determine where the enquiry should be sent. Suggestions should be submitted to the https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/ site. CT I´d like to see an improved search-option for messages, above all CT multiple search-fields with options like includes ..., not includes CT and a linkage between the fields like and, or. Actually, this is planned already, for a subsequent release of 2.0. Currently, you can use special syntax in the search text field: + or - for AND | - for OR ~ - for NOT -- Cheers! Stefan Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! - suggestions - improved search option
Hello Stefan, On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 13:54:28 -0400 GMT (22/08/2003, 00:54 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov wrote: Actually, this is planned already, for a subsequent release of 2.0. Currently, you can use special syntax in the search text field: + or - for AND | - for OR ~ - for NOT ~ for NOT? Shouldn't that be !? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. CHRISTOPHER HOPE was disappointed by the warning he spotted on a gallon container of the laboratory disinfectant Hibitane. Avoid contact with brain, it told him, thereby spoiling his plans for a fun-filled afternoon drilling holes in his skull and pouring disinfectant into them. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! - suggestions - improved search option
TF ~ for NOT? Shouldn't that be !? And in either case, is it possible to escape the literal character? \~ or \! or something? -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! - suggestions - improved search option
Hello Mark, And in either case, is it possible to escape the literal character? \~ or \! or something? By 'escape' do you mean match the literal character? If yes, then the answer is yes and much more by using regular expressions which is selected on the 'Advanced' tab. See 'Message Finder' and 'Regular Expressions Syntax (Basic)' in the help file. -- Best regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! - suggestions / wishlist
Hallo brothers, On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 13:46:14 -0500GMT (1-2-03, 19:46 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: bcc a. Can an option be added to Sorting Office Rules - Actions- bcc Redirect Message to Do not Save to Sent Folder. I have a filter bcc set up to forward certain items to myself at work. Since I bcc already keep the original in a separate folder, I dont need yet bcc another copy in the Sent folder. Create an outgoing filter that moves messages that contain the Resent-from: header with your name and address and maybe a certain To: address (that would be up to you) not from the outbox to 'sent mail', but to trash. That would do the same bcc b. IRT above can a Do not log checkbox or button be added to bcc the send window for those messages which you do not want a copy bcc saved. Create an outgoing filter that does the same as the previous one I suggested, but checks for 'Comments: Do not log' in the kludges and create a quick template that inserts that header. The only thing that QT has to contain is this: %comment=Do not log%- Store the QT as nolog, you can call it by typing nolog in the message followed by Ctrl-Space. That would have the same effect as your proposed features, only you don't have to wait until somebody else implements them. ;-) bcc Cheers \\'olfman bcc -- BTW Your signature delimiter is broken, it should read dash,dash,space,enter but it misses the trailing space. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! - suggestions / wishlist
Hello brothers, a. Can an option be added to Sorting Office Rules - Actions- Redirect Message to Do not Save to Sent Folder. I have a filter set up to forward certain items to myself at work. Since I already keep the original in a separate folder, I dont need yet another copy in the Sent folder. In the (now archaic) SUN(r) mailtool this is akin to the Do not log checkbox. Create an Outgoing mail rule that moves messages directly to Trash. I do this for example with messages I send to this list... because I will get a copy back from the list. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! - suggestions: Outgoing Mail notification
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Syafril! On Friday, November 02, 2001 at 8:28:40 AM you wrote: Suppose we already have Draft Folder, then we can set Outbox Folder to trigger Mail Ticker. If at any reason TB! can not send mail, the messages will stay in Outbox Folder, and the Ticker comes up. That's a nice idea! - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54/10 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Alone: In bad company. (Ambrose Bierce) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBO+KzgvTo1oA8g8dLEQIF8gCgq4IHnDVsVj27NGutUne7dm5CGDwAniUZ WbBLnS7R0k79NAu35EZ37YdE =fyfU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat! - suggestions: Confirmation requests
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Chema! On Wednesday, October 31, 2001 at 1:04:16 PM you wrote: It would be nice to add to TB a new feature: Ignore confirmation request/Answer confirmations automatically. AFAIR, you have the option to get a permission request by TB! or let it send out a conf req automatically. Actually there are two things I *don't* want TB! to do: Answer confirmation requests automatically and ignoring such requests. For the first point, I can only add that I myself sometimes use such requests to check an older e-mail address. If someone does it on me, I want to be able to *not* send a confirmation. And ignoring would be foolish since it could be necessary to get a confirmation. - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54/10 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C One thing about the past. It's likely to last. (Ogden Nash) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBO9/5VfTo1oA8g8dLEQIUQgCeMjEJTiY+SPhy3WLFfQC8gCUq8aYAoMof 4WejUs3ic4se5uTSc2wmojrk =Y0WQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat! - suggestions: Outgoing Mail notification
On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 at 09:14:08 GMT +0100 (01/11/2001 15:14 where you think I live) Dierk Haasis=[DH] wrote to RITLABS : DH There are some features I would like to see in your program: DH For some time now I am working with a minimised TB! main window, an DH automatically displayed/not displayed CC and the MT. this is great DH for incoming mail. DH But I am over and over again forgetting about mail to send. what I DH would like is a notification (lets say in the MT with another colour DH or font) about outgoing mail residing in my accounts. Ahem...seems you have a lot of draft messages on Outbox folder, and because TB! not having draft folder (yet), sometimes confuse which one deferred message or draft messages :-) -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54/10 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat! - suggestions: Outgoing Mail notification
On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 at 11:24:02 GMT +0100 (01/11/2001 17:24 where you think I live) Dierk Haasis=[DH] wrote to Syafril Hermansyah : and because TB! not having draft folder (yet), sometimes confuse which one deferred message or draft messages :-) DH What makes you think so? Suppose we already have Draft Folder, then we can set Outbox Folder to trigger Mail Ticker. If at any reason TB! can not send mail, the messages will stay in Outbox Folder, and the Ticker comes up. -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54/10 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 at 13:04:16 GMT +0100 (31/10/2001 19:04 where you think I live) Chema Berian=[CB] wrote to RITLABS : CB There are some features I would like to see in your program: CB Every day, more and more users of email clients forget to disable the reading CB confirmation request. CB It would be nice to add to TB a new feature: CBIgnore confirmation request/Answer confirmations automatically. It's already there, see Account Template and Folder Template :-) Perhaps you meant while sending to Mailing List ? I hit with this stuff in the past, that's why in all of TB! list I set Listar to remove those header (you may do this on your MDaemon listserver as well, contact me off list if you need it) :-) -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54/10 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
Hello Listers, On Wed, 31 Oct 2001, at 19:20:23 [GMT +0700] (which was 13:20 where I live) Syafril wrote: CBIgnore confirmation request/Answer confirmations CBautomatically. SH It's already there, see Account Template and Folder Template :-) SH Perhaps you meant while sending to Mailing List ? I hit with this stuff SH in the past, that's why in all of TB! list I set Listar to remove SH those header (you may do this on your MDaemon listserver as well, SH contact me off list if you need it) :-) No, I referred to those specified in your answer, it is not Mdaemon related, I am blind :D Thanks -- Chema Berian mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Spanish GDUTB Moderator Subscriptions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53o on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 TB Tip of the Moment: You can add a filtering string to a set by Alt+Ins keystroke when filtering string set editor is active. PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat! - suggestions - Sharing the filters
Hi Lija L It's very simple, really... or at least I think so. :) L Since we already have Share with other accounts option to share quick L templates among accounts, and it works fine, it would be _very good_ to L implement *sharing of filters* (Sorting Office) among accounts. L I don't ask too much, just one check-box... :) Agree with you 100%. Another possibility is where the user is allowed to copy a filter to another account. Another feature could be where a single 'account' can check multiple 'pop'. I have a few web based mail accounts which allow for pop access and also subscribe for multiple newsletters. If I could use a single account to check for all these accounts, I could reduce the number of accounts - making he display more pleasing. -- Best regards, Raj mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Created on Monday, June 04, 2001 using The Bat ver 1.51 Sunday, June 03, 2001, 1:29:12 PM, you wrote: -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions - Sharing the filters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 00:19:32 +0200, ANT-ilic contributed this to our collective wisdom: ... R Another feature could be where a single 'account' can check multiple R 'pop'. I have a few web based mail accounts which allow for pop access R and also subscribe for multiple newsletters. If I could use a single R account to check for all these accounts, I could reduce the number of R accounts - making he display more pleasing. Ai Did you tried to filter all messages to a single account's inbox? Ai It should do what you asked for... Another way would be to use one of those freeware POP servers. Install it. Create a local POP account, configure it to download mail from all those remote POP accounts. Finally set up TB! to download mail from the local POP account ... POP server - localhost, password - the one you configured. Two freeware apps that come to mind include Mercury/32 and the other is Hamster. Mercury is better since it has better documentation. It has a relatively small memory footprint. See: http://www.pmail.com/overviews/ovw_mercwin.htm If you use multiple POP accounts then you may also have problems with sending messages using a single ISP SMTP server. Mercury will help you here as well since it comes packaged with a fully functional SMTP server module. There are two disadvantages with filtering from one account to another. One is that you'd have to still create accounts for each remote POP account. The other is that the only way to filter to another account and use the main accounts filters is to redirect the messages to the main account. This will lead to message header adjustments. To prevent this you'd have to create filters for each account and do the filtering from each account directly to the main accounts folders. Using a local POP server will prevent your having to create multiple accounts in TB!. You'll have no problems with filtering and the messages will be unaltered. Be that as it may, the enigmatic version 2 of TB! is slated to have multiple POP server support per account. - -- A. Curtis Martin List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) Using The Bat! (v1.53 RC/3) [OS: Windows 2000 (Service Pack 2)] - 'If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done?' __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Get my Public Key here - http://key.ac-martin.com iEYEARECAAYFAjsi2okACgkQV8nrYCsHF+JGawCfTHSqouH5aoqwU87ncYSNEb+u QNcAoNq7/RLAtFRLcZaAXNbO1eHn7MZM =Cs/z -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions - Sharing the filters
Hello Lija, L It's very simple, really... or at least I think so. :) L Since we already have Share with other accounts option to share quick L templates among accounts, and it works fine, it would be _very good_ to L implement *sharing of filters* (Sorting Office) among accounts. L I don't ask too much, just one check-box... :) L I know that the people from TBUDL|TECH|BETA agree with me, right? :=) Yes, I do. -- Regards, Ottarmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions - Saving display filtering preferences
On Sunday June 3, 2001 at 6:58:38 AM, Lija wrote: When you go to View | Display | Advanced filtering, you wish sometimes (I wish always!) to save some preferences for the future use. Something like, to display all messages from, e.g. Stefan Tanurkov and save that setting. Next time when we want to look only messages from our dear Stef, :), we'll call that setting, instead of bugging with: Sender's name is/contains: type here Stef etc. Why don't you just set up a Filter for Stef's mail, and colour code it? Works fine for me, and you can have a multitude of colours for a multitude of Senders. At least with that, you can see at a glance if Stef has written you or the List, and if you want to view only Stef's messages, simply hit F7/Advanced/Message Colour Is: :o) -- Nick -=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- SecureBat! v1.53/iKey1000 | Win 98 SE | GnuPG v1.0.6 __ -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On April 14, 2001, at 8:19:43 PM, Maurice Snellen wrote: ACM Some of the editors great formatting routines such as the ACM reformatting of quoted material will lead to this sort of ACM limitation. Sorry I'm coming in late on this thread, but could you refresh my memory on what sort of limitations Allie was talking about? Not necessarily. Basicly, the editor only needs to make this difference for as long as you are editing the message, or maybe it should even save the message with the information on soft and hard returns intact. On screen, while editing, the wrapping behaviour would be as defined by the maximum width of the message, such as 76 characters on a line. Just for clarification, a soft return is one where the line automatically wraps, and a hard return is where the User actually hits the "Enter" key, is that correct? What you are proposing is that TB! not use hard returns where soft returns would normally go? Upon hitting send, the soft returns would automatically be replaced with hard returns, causing there to be no difference between the message on-screen and the way it is sent. If TB!'s Editor was to do that, and realising that PGP wraps/signs a message *before* the MUA would... in your example... replace the soft returns with hard returns, it would have to be such that there was absolutely no difference in the two messages... not even one character... otherwise the PGP signature would be broken. Do you feel that condition would be met if TB! were to make those changes after the User hit the "Send" button? I've seen this kind of ability before in my old FidoNet editor, GoldEd (www.goldware.dk) although I must admit that the reformatting of quoted text in GoldEd requires a little more user intervention. Again I am presuming you were referring to the quirkiness of the TB! Editor's auto-format feature, and that a re-make of the Editor such that it would allow for soft returns would eliminate such quirkiness? Nick ___ -=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- [ TB! v1.52 Beta 1 | Win 98 SE 4.10 A ] [ PGP 7.0.4 | Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE ] ___ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0.4 Comment: Join PGP-Basics: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBOtm5jMUChHR7o/3OEQI1vQCbB2ykfs3xEXkk5YkwvXjIqHV7QJMAn236 jmiZTZYyW32fVUhpuorRUrn6 =gGmQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
Hallo Allie, On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:17:36 -0500 GMT (11/04/2001, 08:17 +0800 GMT), A Curtis Martin wrote: MS 2) Drag and Drop attachments MS I often receive messages containing more than one attachment of which MS I need to forward only one or several but not all to someone else. In MS order to do so, it would be nice if one could open the mail, open a MS second, new mail and just drag and drop the attachments that need to MS be added to the outgoing mail right from the window of the received MS mail onto the window of the new mail. ACM Now THAT would make for an interesting addition. Great suggestion. I just tried it and am actually surprised it doesn't work! ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. -Love is blind but like is just too freaked out to see straight. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49g under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 00:52:13 +0200, Maurice wrote these words of wisdom: MS 1) Hard returns and soft returns MS When 'Auto-Format' is on, it is impossible to have two consecutive MS lines that are not filled to the maximum width allowed by the set MS margins. It seems that there is no difference between what in word MS processors is sometimes referred to as a soft-return and a MS hard-return. Some of the editors great formatting routines such as the reformatting of quoted material will lead to this sort of limitation. The added advantage is that you'll always be aware of the formatting of your text and what the recipient will be seeing at the other end. Soft returns can be very deceptive and can lead to some lousy formatting that the recipient has to deal with. The only application that I see dealing with soft returns in a positive way is Agent and Becky, but then again, neither of them can reflow quoted material the way TB! can... MS As a result, I often find myself continuously switching back and forth MS between 'Auto-Format' on and off. If you find yourself constantly having to switch between both you may do better keeping auto-format off and then hitting alt+l whenever you need to do any text reflowing. MS On a side note: is it possible to have the cursor only go to places MS where text and/or spaces were already typed, and to have the text be MS able to have spaces after the last character on a line, if only to be MS able to verify that the signature separator has a space after it. TB!'s editor is pretty stuck in it's methodology and version 2 is slated to either include and alternate editor or provisions to seamlessly use an external editor of your choice. MS 2) Drag and Drop attachments MS I often receive messages containing more than one attachment of which MS I need to forward only one or several but not all to someone else. In MS order to do so, it would be nice if one could open the mail, open a MS second, new mail and just drag and drop the attachments that need to MS be added to the outgoing mail right from the window of the received MS mail onto the window of the new mail. Now THAT would make for an interesting addition. Great suggestion. - -- Allie, -= A. Curtis Martin =- List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/4 \\// Win2k (SP1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOtOioVfJ62ArBxfiEQIKUwCeJX7KyAf3JqTzacbK7IOwvf75xhYAnjGC vN2D0Ur9kfdlJiQX2GlSpvVQ =9zO1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Bat! - suggestions - skip and later
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On January 24, 2001, at 7:19:53 PM, Abigail Marshall Wrote: AM This does NOT work well because even if only the header is downloaded, AM the body of the message is deleted by TB from the server, so it can't AM be retrieved later. Yes, this has been a long standing issue with RITLabs. I learned the hard way about "downloading only the header"... and having the body of the message immediately deleted. I don't know what the answer is, but nothing has been forthcoming from RITLabs, and IMAP is not the answer either, because a lot of ISP's will not have them. :o( Nick N.J. Andriash [ TB! v1.49c | PGP 7.0.3 | Win 98 SE ] Vancouver, B.C. Canada | PGP Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0.3 Comment: Join PGP-Basics: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBOm8YSMUChHR7o/3OEQLg6gCfeYrBJjV6yC33aHudpHtWh1M7Ma8AoOub IkV2k5QI57KhhpT07wQW7lW6 =ZvFO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions - skip and later
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:00:44 -0800, Nick graced us with these comments: AM This does NOT work well because even if only the header is AM downloaded, the body of the message is deleted by TB from the AM server, so it can't be retrieved later. NA Yes, this has been a long standing issue with RITLabs. I learned NA the hard way about "downloading only the header"... and having the NA body of the message immediately deleted. I don't know what the NA answer is, but nothing has been forthcoming from RITLabs, This problem may be solved with the creation of two filters that should be placed at the top of your filter list. 1) The first should be a filter for your large message notification: Source: Inbox Destination: Inbox Strings : The Bat! Location: Sender Presence: Yes Be sure that for this filter, that the option "Continue processing with other filters is *NOT* checked. 2) The second filter would be to delete all messages from the server as they come in: Source: Inbox Destination: Inbox Strings: 'e' Location: Anywhere Presence: Yes Action: Delete message from server Options: Continue processing with other filters (VERY IMPORTANT that that last option is enabled) With that setup, all messages will be deleted from the server after they're downloaded except for messages not downloaded, i.e., large messages. The message deletions are performed during the next mail check. The initial filter will prevent the large messages from being included in the deletions. - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TB(UDL|BETA|TECH)] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ __ TB! v1.49c | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender and message authentication. iQA/AwUBOm8041fJ62ArBxfiEQLiWACgsypo6qg099JT+hqY+Qx+fntu4wEAoMhn ffuqBt8f/Gcxn086Ntq+hyAD =u7kQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions - skip and later
Hallo Abigail, On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 17:06:42 -0800 GMT (22/01/2001, 09:06 +0800 GMT), Abigail Marshall wrote: In a very OLD version of Netscape mail - probably Netscape 3, - it was possible to configure the mail program to not download messages over a certain user-specified size. For example, if the user specified that messages over 100k would not be downloaded, then the messages would only be partially downloaded, along with a message saying that the remainder had been left on the server, and Netscape 3 would skip ahead to the next message. Then you could go back later to retrieve the balance of the partially downloaded message. This is exactly how it worked in Eudora, and I sued that feature a lot before I converted to TB almost two years ago. Many a time have I requested a similar functionality of the "download header only if message over ... kb), because the current functionality (namely that the message is deleted from server after download of header) is contra-intuitive. After I download the header can I decide whether or not I want to download the full message. By that time is has already been deleted from the server. :-( -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Q: What's a polar bear? A: A rectangular bear after a coordinate transform. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49c under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions - dispatcher
Hallo Krzysztof, On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 17:16:09 +0100 GMT (21/01/2001, 00:16 +0800 GMT), Krzysztof J. Trybowski wrote: KJT Alternatively, I'd like dispatcher to work in an interactive mode KJT -- just after the request to download headers, the dispatcher KJT window would appear, and the headers would appear in it one-by-one KJT while being downloaded. User could stop downloading of headers at KJT any time, and start working with dispatcher as usual. KJT CCed to TBUDL - what do you think guys? I like the idea. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. "Momentum: What you give a person when they are going away." Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49c under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions - skip and later
Hello A, On Saturday, January 20, 2001 you wrote: Why not prevent downloading of these large messages and then download them later at your leisure with the dispatcher. In fact you can even ignore some after examining the headers. Because configuring TB in the way you said means that this will be permanent. What I wish is much simpler and can be applied when for some reason I decide that I want to skip the message. For example, this and only this particular time the connection is very slow or I'm just in a hurry and that 1,5 meg message blocks all other. Yeah, I could cancel downloading and trigger mail dispatcher, but after pressing cancel and answering "no", all the already downloaded messages would be marked for retrieval again. I'd have to wait till all their headers are downloaded *again* and then mess with all of them. Takes much time. And "skip" would be such simple solution. I'm not sure about technical possibilities of realizing it. Is it possible in POP3 to cancel the retrieval of a message, without cancelling whole session (which would lead to all the downloaded and "deleted" messages be downloaded again)? Opss, this should actually go to TBTECH... -- / Krzysztof Trybowski pgp 0xC2AF5441 /--/ To get my pgp key, put / / www.thebat.i.krakow.pl uin 4350719 /--/ "send_key" in subject. /_ Using The Bat! 1.49c [reg] under Windows NT 5.0 build 2195. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions - skip and later
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, at 17:06:42 [GMT -0800], Abigail Marshall wrote: AM In a very OLD version of Netscape mail - probably Netscape 3, - it was AM possible to configure the mail program to not download messages over a AM certain user-specified size. For example, if the user specified that AM messages over 100k would not be downloaded, then the messages would AM only be partially downloaded, along with a message saying that the AM remainder had been left on the server, and Netscape 3 would skip ahead AM to the next message. Then you could go back later to retrieve the AM balance of the partially downloaded message. Do you mean "Account/Properties/Mail management/Receive header only if message size is greater than"? Set the spinner next to that prompt to the maximum size that doesn't need your attention. I can't say how well this works, as I have a broadband connection and don't use this feature. This isn't a substitute for a clean skip or cancel of the transfer where the already downloaded messages are handled properly on the server, but it should help some and is already here. Mike Yetto - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=MAY:PGP_Key E-mailed using The Bat! v1.49 running on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOmupCtkz/SR3Uv4yEQJ3pQCg5f5TFk1os9d+4nKzo6AqRqj1OVsAn0FU qAixsdFigOyfCD6/VfpDWUVi =qxwa -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions - skip and later
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 17:09:38 +0100, Krzysztof graced us with these comments: KJT I'd greatly appreciate a very simple thing like a "skip" KJT button on "Receiving mail" window. This would skip current KJT message and start downloading next one. Also a "later" KJT button would be nice - this would also cause TB to skip KJT the message being currently downloaded, but contrary to the KJT previous one, it would move this message to the end of the KJT queue (so that I can start processing my other mail, while KJT waiting for the given message to finish downloading). KJT This is of course useful with large messages (on slow KJT connections even 100kB messages are considered "large"). KJT CCed to TBUDL - what do you think guys? Why not prevent downloading of these large messages and then download them later at your leisure with the dispatcher. In fact you can even ignore some after examining the headers. - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TB(UDL|BETA|TECH)] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ __ TB! v1.49b | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender and message authentication. iQA/AwUBOmoNu1fJ62ArBxfiEQKe0ACfR+xif6gA68xHr/pLXG6mZfo7Q6QAnRGI iAaInve4cgoZmtjbX7s5vLua =bQ43 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions: Undelete
On 08-01-2001 at 01:23:12GMT +0800 (which was 17:23 where I live) Thomas Fernandez wrote regarding the subject of "The Bat! - suggestions: Undelete" Hello Thomas, Thomas When I browse deleted messages using the folder menu, I would like Thomas to have an option to undelete a message. This would be REAL nice. If I'm not completely mistaken, this has been suggested before. And we're still waiting... Regards -- Manfred ___ [ TheBat 1.49 (FE1905D5), Windows 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1, RC 1.1 ] "Of all animals, the boy is most unmanageable." - Plato -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions: Undelete
Hello Listmembers, On Tue, 9 Jan 2001 at 01:23:12 [GMT +0800] Thomas Fernandez wrote: When I browse deleted messages using the folder menu, I would like to have an option to undelete a message. Simply drag and drop the message wherever you want to have it 'undeleted' to. Regards Dieter __ TheBat! 1.49 [2E7F60DA] on Windows v5.0 Build 2195 SP1 -- Authorized German Registration Site: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=BatReg http://www.register-me.de/the_bat/register.html German Support : http://www.register-me.de/the_bat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dieter Hummel[EMAIL PROTECTED] FRA/GER 65931 ++ Outgoing mail with possible attachment is found to be virus free ++ Checked by AVP, using database update from 01-07-2001 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions, Password field in address book and edit before printing
Hello Andrej, In a post time stamped re: "The Bat! - suggestions, Password field in address book and edit before printing" you wrote: Andrej In the 1.48 version you have added most of my wishs, I speak about Andrej macros in all fields of address book, What do you mean -- "macros in all fields of address book"? Thank you. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! 1.47 Halloween Edition PGP ID: 0x4C9CDF9D Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions, Password field in address book and edit before printing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jan, On 19 December 2000 at 09:24:19 -0500 (which was 14:24 where I live) Jan Rifkinson wrote and made these points: Andrej In the 1.48 version you have added most of my wishs, I speak about Andrej macros in all fields of address book, JR What do you mean -- "macros in all fields of address book"? He is referring to the %AB macros which were added in v1.48. - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: http://www.silverstones.com/MarckPGP.asc ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.48e S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOj9zFDnkJKuSnc2gEQI2RwCgkpadbj2nsWU9UUZ5Bk1leSQrYC0AoLn8 Gq8fGMcsoEORXs1jdayd5m+K =24Iv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
Tuesday, November 21, 2000, 9:35:40 AM, you wrote: Hello The Bat! developers, I'm using The Bat! Version 1.48 Beta/8 Serial Number FE1905D5 under Windows 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1, RC 1.1 There are some features I would like to see in your program: If I want to "save a message as draft" I cannot if the To field is blank. I often write drafts (e.g. business proposals) where I still don't know the email address. And I cannot save the drafts, without putting a dummy address in. This doesn't seem logical. A draft is a draft. Agreed and seconded, it would be very useful to me personally. -- Best regards, Chris Wilson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.formula3.freeserve.co.uk -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
Hello Martyn, Thursday, August 10, 2000, 10:38:19 am, you wrote: MD Is it currently possible to define a "system-wide" set of message MD templates that can be applied to newly created accounts within The MD Bat! rather than having to define the templates for each new account MD by hand every time? If not, is it possible to implement such an option MD that would do so? I would add: Make system wide sets of FILTERS, TEMPLATES etc with account overrides. This allows simple creations for generic stuff for all accounts and detailed stuff in each account. ALSO would be nice if FROm and REPLY-TO drop downs listed all from ALL accounts. Sometimes my business account I would like to change the (as Eudora does) personality from business to personal etc. -- Best regards, Marcmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
Ok this is old, but I've been on the road and have something to point
out.
- Get rid of the horizontal scroll bar - text should be fully
wrapped within the open message window upon reading that message
I knew Steve would jump on this one. However, at the same time, I
*personally* would like to ALWAYS wrap to window, and if I decide the
*window* needs to be wider, just make it that...
Anyway, this code came through and showed up in my preview pane
wrapped as follows:
SL sub make_date {
SL @time = gmtime(time);
SL my(@month) =
SL ("Jan","Feb","Mar","Apr","May","Jun","Jul","Aug","Sep","Oct","Nov","Dec");
SL my(@dow) = ("Sun","Mon","Tue","Wed","Thu","Fri","Sat");
SL $time[5] += 1900;
SL my($date) = sprintf("Date: %s, %02d %s %d %02d:%02d:%02d
SL
+",$dow[$time[6]],$time[3],$month[$time[4]],$time[5],$time[2],$time[1],$time[0]);
SL return($date);
SL }
So this bug I've seen (in the version I'm using, anyway, 1.42f) is
that the preview pane auto-wraps, but say like with HTML messages, if
I go to the HTML view then back to "plain-text," the message is no
longer wrapped properly...
-tom!
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Re: The Bat! - suggestions
Monday, August 07, 2000, 10:09:26 AM, you wrote: - Get rid of the horizontal scroll bar - text should be fully wrapped within the open message window upon reading that message Agreed strongly, but as an option. IE, a wrap all text to window width option, both in preview and full screen views. Still desperate for a means of folders opening with threads fully expanded, a simple no way, or coming soon would relieve my frustration one way or the other :-) Regards, Martyn Drake -- Best regards, Chrismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.formula3.freeserve.co.uk -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
Monday, August 07, 2000, 10:09:26 AM, you wrote: - The ability to hide ANY attachment D'oh - didn't finish that sentance off properly. I was suggesting that perhaps it might be a better idea to put that option somewhere like the Options menu or perhaps have an Message Preferences menu under the Options menu, so that all settings that affect the message window can be found in one place to offer consistancy between making Bat-wide options to the message window rather than having to do it all through an open message window. I hope that makes some sort of sense to someone :) Regards, Martyn -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
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Hash: SHA1
Monday, August 07, 2000, 2:09:26 AM, Martyn wrote:
- Get rid of the horizontal scroll bar - text should be fully
wrapped within the open message window upon reading that message
sub make_date {
@time = gmtime(time);
my(@month) =
("Jan","Feb","Mar","Apr","May","Jun","Jul","Aug","Sep","Oct","Nov","Dec");
my(@dow) = ("Sun","Mon","Tue","Wed","Thu","Fri","Sat");
$time[5] += 1900;
my($date) = sprintf("Date: %s, %02d %s %d %02d:%02d:%02d
+",$dow[$time[6]],$time[3],$month[$time[4]],$time[5],$time[2],$time[1],$time[0]);
return($date);
}
That would suck if it were wrapped, wouldn't it? Funny thing is, the
editor doesn't have a scrollbar. :)
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Re: The Bat! - suggestions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Monday, August 07, 2000, 8:30:27 AM, Jamie wrote: Perl or Python? Definitely showing off. Perl, and not showing off, just happens to be the first snippet of code I could find over 80 characters wide to illustrate a point more effectively than saying, "Well, you know, there are some sets of data which you don't want wrapped. Code, for example." - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOY7g+Xpf7K2LbpnFEQJZUgCeIUWY0yT8ovF2uHmP+UpNw6kMgr4AnRx+ U9h1GMyOtGyqjzXeL35XbXoI =dNx1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
On Mon, 7 Aug 2000 09:16:52 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: SL Monday, August 07, 2000, 8:30:27 AM, Jamie wrote: Perl or Python? Definitely showing off. SL Perl, and not showing off, just happens to be the first snippet of SL code I could find over 80 characters wide to illustrate a point more SL effectively than saying, "Well, you know, there are some sets of SL data which you don't want wrapped. Code, for example." I personally understand your sentence above rather than the cryptic snippet of code you posted. If it had been wrapped inappropriately, I wouldn't have even realised. :-) I'm quite sure the majority of the readership share the same level of familiarity with your snippet. My showoff detector resoundingly alarmed as well. g -- -=A.C. Martin=-[TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1] PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "Life is a series of very rude awakenings. " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Monday, August 07, 2000, 9:34:20 AM, Curtis wrote: I personally understand your sentence above rather than the cryptic snippet of code you posted. If it had been wrapped inappropriately, I wouldn't have even realised. Point was that it would have been wrapped. That is all that mattered. Come to think of it I should have posted Python since whitespace matters in that language. - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOY7s13pf7K2LbpnFEQJG6wCg9zsntkb528Gq3FOG01CCtOCGwNMAoPyj ktShMP5BawgMc/RIbqs296PZ =G+V7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
Hi Syafril, On Thu, 13 Apr 2000 12:25:55 +0700GMT (13/04/2000, 13:25 +0800GMT), Syafril Hermansyah wrote: SH ftp://ftp.dutaint.com/the_bat/rfc/rfc2369.txt "Unable to locate server." -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.41 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
Hello Thomas Fernandez, Responding to your article on Thursday, April 13, 2000 at 14:04:15 GMT +0800 (which was 13/04/2000 13:04 GMT +0700 my Local Time) : SH ftp://ftp.dutaint.com/the_bat/rfc/rfc2369.txt TF "Unable to locate server." Uh strange. I just check by query to your NAme Server, and the result is: ftp.dutaint.com Server: hntp3.hinet.net Address: 168.95.192.2 DNS request timed out. timeout was 2 seconds. ftp.dutaint.com internet address = 203.130.233.13 ftp.dutaint.com internet address = 203.130.233.2 ftp.dutaint.com internet address = 202.134.1.243 ftp.dutaint.com internet address = 202.134.1.244 but if the query to your primary DNS : ftp.dutaint.com Server: hntp1.hinet.net Address: 168.95.192.1 DNS request timed out. timeout was 2 seconds. *** Request to hntp1.hinet.net timed-out Seems like your primary DNS very busy. Please wait for a while, and try again or change your DNS setting on your TCP/IP setting, put your primary DNS (168.95.192.2) on top. -- Best regards, - Syafril - Name : Syafril Hermansyah |Company: Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 FAXto : (62)(21)351-9241 key:000FAX |URL: http://www.dutaint.co.id Using The Bat! 1.42 Beta/16 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Created : Thursday, April 13, 2000, 13:25:43 GMT +0700 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
Hello Thomas Fernandez, Responding to your article on Thursday, April 13, 2000 at 16:05:18 GMT +0800 (which was 13/04/2000 15:05 GMT +0700 my Local Time) : SH ftp://ftp.dutaint.com/the_bat/rfc/rfc2369.txt TF "Unable to locate server." TF This error message I still get when I connect by Netscape or by TF WinCommander. These proggies use the company's LAN to connect, of TF course. I know a bit about DUN Connections, but not enough about TF Internet connections via LAN; I can only set up my work station TF correctly. I don't get the SMTP server on this Exchange Server to TF send anything to email addresses outside of the company's domain, TF i.e. the LAN, and am therefore using an extgernal SMTP server. In LAN, sometime the problem in the DNSServer or DNS (Cache) forwader). Especially for NT DNS, very susceptible, sometimes lag to update DNS cache. I am using BIND DNS for our LAN (it's freeware). TF However, coming back to the problem on hand, you have pointed out TF that there is some kind of problem with the LAN's connection to the TF Internet. While I have no problem web browsing, downloading all TF kinds of stuff (Getright is running with an FTP download while I'm TF writing this, and this time is the first time I have ever TF experienced this problem), See above. TF I telnetted into my ISP's server (hinet.net, as you have correctly TF pointed out - I have an email address on the LAN but I also have an TF external email address for certain reasons, but both use the same TF ISP, namely Hinet, which is Taiwan Telecom). From the server, I TF ftp'ed onto ftp.dutaint.com, and it opened nicely (albeit I have a TF very slow connection). So, the problem is somewhere in the LAN and TF not at your side. Last 5-days ago I change the DNS setting to Round Robin (just want to know the effect), seems better I change it again to LocalNetPriority, so that every query will get "the fastest"/nearest ip addresses. -- Best regards, - Syafril - Name : Syafril Hermansyah |Company: Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 FAXto : (62)(21)351-9241 key:000FAX |URL: http://www.dutaint.co.id Using The Bat! 1.42 Beta/16 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Created : Thursday, April 13, 2000, 16:16:45 GMT +0700 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
Hi Syafril Hermansyah,
On Wednesday, April 12, 2000 at 5:32:14 PM you wrote:
Nowadays, most of list already support RFC-2369 (including this list),
so supporting RFC-2369 very useful.
I like the idea ;), but what is RFC-2369?
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Re: The Bat! - suggestions
Wednesday, April 12, 2000, 12:16:21 PM, Oliver wrote: I like the idea ;), but what is RFC-2369? Do a yahoo search on RFC and find out. :) -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
Hi there! On 12 Apr 00, at 21:16, Oliver Sturm wrote about "Re: The Bat! - suggestions": Nowadays, most of list already support RFC-2369 (including this list), so supporting RFC-2369 very useful. I like the idea ;), but what is RFC-2369? It's the RFC that describes the "list headers" and how MUAs should deal with these. See the headers of each TBUDL message, you'll find the full set of list headers there. In theory, a MUA should automate dealing with common list actions, like subbing/unsubbing/getting help provided that the message carries these headers. Pegasus (partially) supports this functionality starting from 3.x. Stefan announced lately he's going to add this functionality some day. -- SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) http://mph.phys.spbu.ru/~akiselev --- Thought for the day: If there is a 50/50 chance of something going wrong, nine times out of ten it will. --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
Hello Oliver Sturm, Responding to your article on Thursday, April 13, 2000 at 21:16:21 GMT +0200 (which was 13/04/2000 2:16 GMT +0700 my Local Time) : Nowadays, most of list already support RFC-2369 (including this list), so supporting RFC-2369 very useful. OS I like the idea ;), but what is RFC-2369? Well, I saw "Alexander V. Kiselev" [EMAIL PROTECTED] already explain (as always) clearly (your message came through when I in bed :-)) If you want to read it, I just upload this RFC to my FTP site, you can download it from : ftp://ftp.dutaint.com/the_bat/rfc/rfc2369.txt OK, I'm preparing to upload some RFC that may relate to MUA, at least which commonly state/post by some members here. For the time being, the document only can be download from FTP, later I will prepare the Catalog so that you can download it using "mail command" to our Server. -- Best regards, - Syafril - Name : Syafril Hermansyah |Company: Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 FAXto : (62)(21)351-9241 key:000FAX |URL: http://www.dutaint.co.id Using The Bat! 1.42 Beta/16 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Created : Thursday, April 13, 2000, 11:31:39 GMT +0700 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions : Priority Level
Tuesday, February 08, 2000, 5:54:39 PM, Syafril wrote: Because The Bat! already have Mail Ticker to priorities message from whom will "more priority" than others, this "priority tag" tend to useless. No, they tend to tell you how important the sender thought the message was. That isn't useless. It also shouldn't be tampered with. I have an idea : how if we can change "priority tag" of any message currently on folder, and make it more than 3 : lowest, low, normal, high, highest with different color for every tag. I have an idea, go back to Eudora. This will very helpful for our "To Do List folder" (prioritizing) or make tag for : read later, be forward to someone later with comment, notify sub ordinate later etc. And as said on the Beta list, it is an email client, not an effing PIM. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions : Priority Level
Hello Steve Lamb, On Thursday, February 10, 2000 at 02:34:57 GMT -0800 (which was 10/02/2000 17:34 GMT +0700 my Local Time) you told to the list: Because The Bat! already have Mail Ticker to priorities message from whom will "more priority" than others, this "priority tag" tend to useless. SL No, they tend to tell you how important the sender thought the SL message was. That isn't useless. It also shouldn't be tampered with. Why we can't set priority of my own message ? I know I can redirect the message to myself to change the priority level, but more simple and faster if the program allow that. It's break the RFC rule ? I have an idea : how if we can change "priority tag" of any message currently on folder, and make it more than 3 : lowest, low, normal, high, highest with different color for every tag. SL I have an idea, go back to Eudora. Never really use it, explain why must use Eudora why not The Bat! ? What's Eudora advantage for this things. This will very helpful for our "To Do List folder" (prioritizing) or make tag for : read later, be forward to someone later with comment, notify sub ordinate later etc. SL And as said on the Beta list, it is an email client, not an effing SL PIM. Who said it is a PIM ? In 1980 era, I wrote all of my to do list on paper, why not wrote on my mail, should I buy palm pilot as you for writing simple list ? Change the tagging flag makes The Bat bloat ? Makes more than 3 level of priority makes The Bat bloat ? -- - Syafril - Name: Syafril Hermansyah | Company : Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 URL : www.dutaint.co.id | FAX : (62) (21) 351-9241 Using The Bat! 1.41 Beta/3 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Created : Thursday, February 10, 2000, 18:05:39 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions : Priority Level
Thursday, February 10, 2000, 3:17:02 AM, Syafril wrote: Why we can't set priority of my own message ? You later bounce it to someone else and they get the impression that the original author placed an importance greater, or lesser, than what they actually did. It's break the RFC rule ? The basic rule of don't munge the data. I have an idea : how if we can change "priority tag" of any message currently on folder, and make it more than 3 : lowest, low, normal, high, highest with different color for every tag. SL I have an idea, go back to Eudora. Never really use it, explain why must use Eudora why not The Bat! ? What's Eudora advantage for this things. You described Eudora's priority system verbatim. Who said it is a PIM ? "To-Do List" One of the basic components of the PIM is the to-do list. Change the tagging flag makes The Bat bloat ? Makes more than 3 level of priority makes The Bat bloat ? Why change it to 5? Why not take the Franklin approach and have 5 major priorities with 10 minor priorities in each! No, wait, wait, let's go for a scale based on currently know prime number! Yeah!!! Yeah That's it! 5 levels isn't enough for me, let's go for 3249827532459872345983427 Do you get it yet? -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions : Priority Level
Hello Steve Lamb, On Thursday, February 10, 2000 at 08:28:19 GMT -0800 (which was 10/02/2000 23:28 GMT +0700 my Local Time) you told to the list: Why we can't set priority of my own message ? SL You later bounce it to someone else and they get the impression that SL the original author placed an importance greater, or lesser, than SL what they actually did. At the time the "high priority" arrive, we know the author need attention for his/her message (that is his/her priority), but after that it depend on us to decide the message is "high priority" to answer or not, doesn't it ? It's break the RFC rule ? SL The basic rule of don't munge the data. So, as far as The Bat! notify us with "right priority", will not break RFC rule. I have an idea : how if we can change "priority tag" of any message currently on folder, and make it more than 3 : lowest, low, normal, high, highest with different color for every tag. SL I have an idea, go back to Eudora. Never really use it, explain why must use Eudora why not The Bat! ? What's Eudora advantage for this things. SL You described Eudora's priority system verbatim. Ijust check Eudora Light 3.05, you right it has 5 level and can change the tag; Netscape 4.71 5-level (can change the tag), and Pegasus 3.12b only 2-level but have coloring and annotation (I like it). Outlook2000 have 3, can change tag, Outlook Express 5 have 3, can't change the tag. Any complaint from Eudora/Netscape/Pegasus/Outlook200 about this "feature" yet ? How about *nix MUA, such Mutt, ELM or others ? Who said it is a PIM ? SL "To-Do List" One of the basic components of the PIM is the to-do SL list. I see, you can say as scrathpad or whatever you like :-). But look : I send and receive FAXes using E-mail, all office report using e-mail (we use internal mail list here), and in the near future we will implement "workflow", so most of procedure (such purchase requisition, absences etc) will use e-mail transport. So it worth for me if we have coloring system in our E-mail, at least change the tagging of priority. Change the tagging flag makes The Bat bloat ? Makes more than 3 level of priority makes The Bat bloat ? SL Why change it to 5? Why not take the Franklin approach and have 5 SL major priorities with 10 minor priorities in each! :-) 5 is enough for me, but if coloring and annotation like Pegasus will appreciate. SL No, wait, wait, let's go for a scale based on currently know prime SL number! Yeah!!! Yeah That's it! 5 levels isn't enough for me, SL let's go for 3249827532459872345983427 SL Do you get it yet? Whoaho ... -- - Syafril - Name: Syafril Hermansyah | Company : Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 URL : www.dutaint.co.id | FAX : (62) (21) 351-9241 Using The Bat! 1.41 Beta/3 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Created : Thursday, February 10, 2000, 23:49:25 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions : Priority Level
Thursday, February 10, 2000, 9:34:24 AM, Syafril wrote: SL You later bounce it to someone else and they get the impression that SL the original author placed an importance greater, or lesser, than SL what they actually did. At the time the "high priority" arrive, we know the author need attention for his/her message (that is his/her priority), but after that it depend on us to decide the message is "high priority" to answer or not, doesn't it ? SL You later bounce it to someone else and they get the impression that SL the original author placed an importance greater, or lesser, than SL what they actually did. I will continue to CP that block of text until you understand exactly it is that was said. Any complaint from Eudora/Netscape/Pegasus/Outlook200 about this "feature" yet ? This is TB!, not Eudora/Netscape/Pegasus/Outlook2000. If I wanted to use one of those abominations I would do so. Please kindly STOP trying to make TB! into its flawed competitors. SL No, wait, wait, let's go for a scale based on currently know prime SL number! Yeah!!! Yeah That's it! 5 levels isn't enough for me, SL let's go for 3249827532459872345983427 SL Do you get it yet? Whoaho ... Apparently not. *YOU* are happy with 5. Someone else wants 7. Another person wants 23908712598137653295678. So where do you draw the line? How about not starting down that path in the first place. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions : Priority Level
Thursday, February 10, 2000, 11:59:42 AM, Alexander wrote: Anyway, I do support Steve's arguments here: you should NOT change the priority of the messages that are sent to you. OTOH, colour highlighting etc. proves to be really useful. Which, I might add, I did support when it was spoken about on the beta list. :) -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions : Priority Level
Hi there! On 11 Feb 00, at 0:34, Syafril Hermansyah wrote about "Re: The Bat! - suggestions : Priority level": Ijust check Eudora Light 3.05, you right it has 5 level and can change the tag; Netscape 4.71 5-level (can change the tag), and Pegasus 3.12b only 2-level but have coloring and annotation (I like it). Note, that the priority of the incoming message *cannot* be changed in Pegasus. It just highlights the urgent messages with red and sorts them to the top of the folder. As for the "annotations" feature you've cited, it has nothing to do with the priority. It's really handy, but it doesn't mean that you change the message in any way. It's just "attaching" a small bit of your comments to the message and marking message in the folder as being annotated. It does NOT physically change the message being annotated, BTW. Anyway, I do support Steve's arguments here: you should NOT change the priority of the messages that are sent to you. OTOH, colour highlighting etc. proves to be really useful. -- SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) http://mph.phys.spbu.ru/~akiselev --- Thought for the day: On a beautiful day like this it's hard to believe anyone can be unhappy -- but we'll work on it. --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions : Priority Level
Hello Alexander V. Kiselev, On Friday, February 11, 2000 at 22:59:42 GMT +0300 (which was 11/02/2000 2:59 GMT +0700 my Local Time) you told to the list: Ijust check Eudora Light 3.05, you right it has 5 level and can change the tag; Netscape 4.71 5-level (can change the tag), and Pegasus 3.12b only 2-level but have coloring and annotation (I like it). AVK Note, that the priority of the incoming message *cannot* be changed AVK in Pegasus. It just highlights the urgent messages with red and AVK sorts them to the top of the folder. I just trying (again), it can; if we select any message then right click we can change the status from message properties. AVK As for the "annotations" feature you've cited, it has nothing to do AVK with the priority. It's really handy, but it doesn't mean that you AVK change the message in any way. It's just "attaching" a small bit of AVK your comments to the message and marking message in the folder as AVK being annotated. It does NOT physically change the message being AVK annotated, BTW. Correct. AVK Anyway, I do support Steve's arguments here: you should NOT change AVK the priority of the messages that are sent to you. OTOH, colour AVK highlighting etc. proves to be really useful. I am still don't really understand the impact of change the priorities, even color highlighting (or using tag/icon) acceptable for me (this more than I expected though). -- - Syafril - Name: Syafril Hermansyah | Company : Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 URL : www.dutaint.co.id | FAX : (62) (21) 351-9241 Using The Bat! 1.41 Beta/3 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Created : Friday, February 11, 2000, 9:50:13 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions : Priority Level
Hello Steve Lamb, On Friday, February 11, 2000 at 09:48:16 GMT -0800 (which was 11/02/2000 0:48 GMT +0700 my Local Time) you told to the list: SL You later bounce it to someone else and they get the impression that SL the original author placed an importance greater, or lesser, than SL what they actually did. SL I will continue to CP that block of text until you understand SL exactly it is that was said. SeemsI don't really understand what's the meaning of your words, can you explain more bit details, an example will appreciate to give me better understanding you. Any complaint from Eudora/Netscape/Pegasus/Outlook200 about this "feature" yet ? SL This is TB!, not Eudora/Netscape/Pegasus/Outlook2000. If I wanted to SL use one of those abominations I would do so. Please kindly STOP SL trying to make TB! into its flawed competitors. I just pointing out, most people out there acceptable with this, eventhough I don't know their reason. Perhaps some of them don't like this, not use it, but the others need it. -- - Syafril - Name: Syafril Hermansyah | Company : Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 URL : www.dutaint.co.id | FAX : (62) (21) 351-9241 Using The Bat! 1.41 Beta/3 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Created : Friday, February 11, 2000, 9:56:05 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions : Priority Level
Thursday, February 10, 2000, 7:07:56 PM, Syafril wrote: Seems I don't really understand what's the meaning of your words, can you explain more bit details, an example will appreciate to give me better understanding you. The president of the company emails you about a random musing. He sets it low priority. Because it is the prez you mark it as high to remember to reply with your thoughts. In the course of your day you mention it to a coworker and he wants to see the exact text to help you brainstorm. You bounce it to him. He sees that it is marked high and might think the prez feels it was important when he, in fact, did not. Moral: Don't munge data. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions : Priority Level
Hello Steve Lamb, On Friday, February 11, 2000 at 19:37:29 GMT -0800 (which was 11/02/2000 10:37 GMT +0700 my Local Time) you told to the list: Seems I don't really understand what's the meaning of your words, can you explain more bit details, an example will appreciate to give me better understanding you. SL The president of the company emails you about a random musing. He SL sets it low priority. Because it is the prez you mark it as high to SL remember to reply with your thoughts. In the course of your day you SL mention it to a coworker and he wants to see the exact text to help SL you brainstorm. You bounce it to him. He sees that it is marked high SL and might think the prez feels it was important when he, in fact, SL did not. SL Moral: Don't munge data. Ah I see now, thanks and agree. So coloring or using tag/flag it's OK ?(such as flag of Park message can use selectable flag/tag is acceptable, due not munge the data, and only for our personal use). -- - Syafril - Name: Syafril Hermansyah | Company : Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 URL : www.dutaint.co.id | FAX : (62) (21) 351-9241 Using The Bat! 1.41 Beta/3 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Created : Friday, February 11, 2000, 10:56:29 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions : Priority Level
Hello Syafril Hermansyah, On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 13:01:03 +0700 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, February 09, 2000, 1:01:03 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Syafril Hermansyah wrote: Hello tracer, ok, understood, I did the same after he mailed me telling him that the easy way was probably to unsubscribe if the system thinks he was. On the other hand I found it funny as they make motherboards and other stuff and I donot mind having a look at it!! Best regards, tracer -- Using theBAT 1.41 Beta/3 with Windows 98 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using FireTalk: 321338 ICQ: on request Website: www.phuketcomputers.com Our special website hosting/mailservers are now operational -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions : Priority Level
Hello tracer, On Wednesday, February 09, 2000 at 17:39:36 GMT +0700 (which was 09/02/2000 17:39 GMT +0700 my Local Time) you told to the list: [ ... ] t On the other hand I found it funny as they make motherboards and t other stuff and I donot mind having a look at it!! LOL... I and Marck still have copy of the Advertising, do you want me to send it to you privately ? :-). -- - Syafril - Name: Syafril Hermansyah | Company : Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 URL : www.dutaint.co.id | FAX : (62) (21) 351-9241 Using The Bat! 1.41 Beta/3 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Created : Wednesday, February 09, 2000, 18:47:39 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions : Priority Level
Hello Syafril Hermansyah, I received this letter. It seems some things goto the wrong place so can you please check how this company goto onto the mailing list quote: -- [ From: TOTEM TECHNOLOGY CO.,LTD. * EMC.Ver #3.1a INTERNATIONAL ] -- Dear Sirs: seems that your messages sent to a wrong place, here is Totem Technology Co., Ltd. -- a Maker for PC Mother Boards. Jimmy Tong REPLY, Original message follows Date: Wednesday, 09-Feb-00 08:34 AM From: tracer \ Internet:([EMAIL PROTECTED]) To: Allie Martin \ Internet:([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Subject: Re: Filtering not working for only one sender - the rest is OK, how come ? Hello Allie Martin, On Tue, 8 Feb 2000 15:09:15 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, February 09, 2000, 3:09:15 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Allie Martin wrote: On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 08:48:43 +1300, Nick Rout wrote: If this is a bug why doesn't someone fix it? Why are these things left to fester? Why dopeople pay money for software with bugs? Great programme, but if the bugs don't get fixed, whats the point of paying for it? They do fix bugs but some of the deep-seated ones are being sat upon it would appear. I have this feeling that they are addressing some of these by way of version 2. In the meantime, with all the bugs, I do get my moneys worth out of using it. That's why I bought it and would by it again if needed. :) Its the first emailer I bought and I used many Best regards, tracer -- Using theBAT 1.41 / Beta1 with Windows 98 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using FireTalk: 321338 ICQ: on request Website: www.phuketcomputers.com Our special website hosting/mailservers are now operational -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : [EMAIL PROTECTED] REPLY, End of original message -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions : Priority Level
Hello tracer, On Wednesday, February 09, 2000 at 12:30:32 GMT +0700 (which was 09/02/2000 12:30 GMT +0700 my Local Time) you told to the list: t Hello Syafril Hermansyah, t I received this letter. t It seems some things goto the wrong place so can you please check how t this company goto onto the mailing list t quote: t -- [ From: TOTEM TECHNOLOGY CO.,LTD. * EMC.Ver #3.1a INTERNATIONAL ] -- He (or someone which use his mail address) was sending "advertising" message to[EMAIL PROTECTED]and [EMAIL PROTECTED] on February 3, 2000 :-). Unfortunately this is share account (and now, the other owner complaint us). He already UNSUB from the list [EMAIL PROTECTED], but still exist on [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-(. Let's see after the traffic on TBBETA going high. But he knows how to UNSUB after I point out the footer. -- - Syafril - Name: Syafril Hermansyah | Company : Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 URL : www.dutaint.co.id | FAX : (62) (21) 351-9241 Using The Bat! 1.41 Beta/3 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Created : Wednesday, February 09, 2000, 12:53:52 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
Hello Thomas and Bat Buddies, Instead of Purging Compressing every time I close The Bat!, I would like to have an option to Purge Compress manually. Hmmm. It is my understanding that only folders set to purge and compress on exit will have this behavior, as set up in each folder's properties. As for manual purging/compressing, there are commands to do this in the Folder menu in the main TB window. -- Unequivocally, Jason Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Borrow money from pessimists. They don't expect it back. The Bat! v1.38e -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
PurgeCompress (was: Re: The Bat! - suggestions)
Hi Jason, On Thu, 6 Jan 2000 01:23:32 -0800GMT (06/01/2000, 17:23 +0800GMT), Jason Thompson wrote: Instead of Purging Compressing every time I close The Bat!, I would like to have an option to Purge Compress manually. JT Hmmm. It is my understanding that only folders set to purge and compress JT on exit will have this behavior, as set up in each folder's properties. JT As for manual purging/compressing, there are commands to do this in the JT Folder menu in the main TB window. Correct. My wording was not precise enough. I do not want to purgecompress each of the 43 folders individually, which I could with the command in the folder menu. I want one mouse-click for "purgecompress all folder that are set up for this". Incidentally, all my folders have an old-message date, after which I want to keep only parked messages. I now purge compress "on exit" - on *every* exit, that is. Maybe the opposite of my initial suggestion should be easier to implement: "exit" (Alt-X) versus "exit while ignoring all purgecompress set-ups" (ALT-CRTL-X, or whatever). -- Best regards, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.38e under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: PurgeCompress (was: Re: The Bat! - suggestions)
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Thursday, January 06, 2000, Thomas Fernandez wrote to Jason Thompson about PurgeCompress (was: Re: The Bat! - suggestions): TF I want one mouse-click for "purgecompress all folder that are set TF up for this". Folders/Purge All Folders -- Best regards, Oleg Zalyalov. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.38e under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
Thursday, January 06, 2000, 09:29, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Instead of Purging Compressing every time I close The Bat!, I would like to have an option to Purge Compress manually. Hello Thomas, you can do so. Disable "Remove old messages" an "Compress the folder" on "general" tab of folder properties and have a look to the folder menue. -- Best regards, Jürgen -- Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: PurgeCompress (was: Re: The Bat! - suggestions)
Hello Thomas Fernandez, On Thu, 6 Jan 2000 at 17:37:39 GMT +0800 [Thursday, January 06, 2000 16:37 GMT +0700], you told to the list: [ ...] TF I now purge compress "on exit" - on *every* exit, that is. Maybe TF the opposite of my initial suggestion should be easier to TF implement: "exit" (Alt-X) versus "exit while ignoring all TF purgecompress set-ups" (ALT-CRTL-X, or whatever). For this, I am definitely agree. -- - syafril - Opinions expressed are only mine Name: Syafril Hermansyah | Company : Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 URL : www.dutaint.co.id | FAX : (62) (21) 351-9241 I am using The Bat! 1.38e (reg) under Windows 98 Workstation 4.10 built 1998, Created : Thursday, January 06, 2000, 20:49:16 (+07:00 GMT) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: PurgeCompress (was: Re: The Bat! - suggestions)
Hallo Oleg, Juergen and Stefan: On Thu, 6 Jan 2000 14:40:26 +0400 GMT (06.01.2000, 18:40 +0800 GMT), Oleg Zalyalov wrote: TF I want one mouse-click for "purgecompress all folder that are set TF up for this". OZ Folders/Purge All Folders Thanks to all of you. The Bat! has no many features that I actually overlooked the one that was right under my nose. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.38e under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366 Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
Hello Thomas Fernandez, On Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:29:54 +0800 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, January 06, 2000, 3:29:54 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Thomas Hello The Bat! developers, Thomas There are some features I would like to see in your program: Thomas Instead of Purging Compressing every time I close The Bat!, I Thomas would like to have an option to Purge Compress manually. Thomas The reason is, the "Cleaning Up" process takes a long time each Thomas time (up to 15 minutes), and I really don't need to do it every Thomas day. Thomas while this in itself is a useful option we need a better archive system where the archive doesnt automatically get opened, is accessible when needed and per folder and can be selected per folder to have backup criteria set. If setup correctly you wouldnt have to do much manual backups and the bat would be opening fast. Esssentially the current setup is unsuitable for hundreds of emails per day unless one goes and uses tricks. which really shouldnt be required. In adition a smooth working backup system is a good selling point. Thomas Regards, Thomas Thomas Fernandez Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.38e mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
Thursday, January 06, 2000, 12:29:54 AM, Thomas wrote: Instead of Purging Compressing every time I close The Bat!, I would like to have an option to Purge Compress manually. You can do that now. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: PurgeCompress (was: Re: The Bat! - suggestions)
Thursday, January 06, 2000, 1:37:39 AM, Thomas wrote: the command in the folder menu. I want one mouse-click for "purgecompress all folder that are set up for this". Incidentally, all my folders have an old-message date, after which I want to keep only parked messages. You have that. The purge does a compress before the purge. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: PurgeCompress (was: Re: The Bat! - suggestions)
Hello Steve, Thursday, January 06, 2000, 5:30:31 PM, you wrote: the command in the folder menu. I want one mouse-click for "purgecompress all folder that are set up for this". Incidentally, all my folders have an old-message date, after which I want to keep only parked messages. SL You have that. The purge does a compress before the purge. Shouldn't that be a purge before a compress? Otherwise, you compress, purge, then have empty space left over from the purge, right? Or am I just confused again? ;] -- Best regards, Carstenmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *---* Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 5 on a PII/233, 96 MB RAM, 4 GB HDD *---* -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: PurgeCompress (was: Re: The Bat! - suggestions)
Thursday, January 06, 2000, 8:57:37 AM, Carsten wrote: Shouldn't that be a purge before a compress? Otherwise, you compress, purge, then have empty space left over from the purge, right? Or am I just confused again? ;] Hey, I just got to work and hadn't had my morning cup of Dew. My bad. :P -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
Hello Steve Lamb, On Fri, 24 Dec 1999 13:34:37 -0800 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, December 25, 1999, 4:34:37 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Steve Lamb wrote: Steve Hello The Bat! developers, Steve There are some features I would like to see in your program: Steve There is a global purge and delete. Would be nice to have a global purge Steve duplicates as well for those of us (ahem) who have to merge an older message Steve base with a newer one. I agree, especially as after every cutoff I have MANY duplicates, one button/menu option to remove in every box duplicates would be useful Steve Regards, Steve Steve Lamb Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.38e mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
Hi all, On Sunday, October 17, 1999, 12:56:28 AM (-5 GMT), Keith scribbled: May be a new button or a pull-down menu (as one under the Get mail button) item would be a better way then a pop-up dialog every time the user hits Reply? I hate to keep referring to other programs, but Agent and Becky! have SO many nice features that I hope TB would emulate Becky handles this one really nicely. On the bar separating the message list from the preview pane, there is an icon called "Check Addresses". If you click on this icon, it brings up the From, Sender, Reply-To, To, and Cc fields with their contents. Among other things, you can click on the addresses you want to reply to, then click on a "Reply to the Address" button, and you've accomplished what you wanted. It's very flexible. If you just want to reply to the Reply-To address, or Reply to All, there are icons for these; you don't have to use Check Addresses unless you want the added flexibility. For the time being I use the reply to all option and delete the address that I don't want to reply to. This works well for TBUDL since it's the From and not the Sender address that is placed in the To: field. -- Regards, -=Ali=- Polls show that 9 out of 6 schizophrenics agree. *---* Using The Bat! 1.36 on Windows NT 4.0 (Service Pack 5) *---* -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
Hello, The Bat Users! SL When the reply-to and from fields differ, offer the user the choice of SL which to use. While RFC822 states that reply-to should be used it does not SL state that it must be used to the exclusion of from. Furthermore, since 822 SL does allow for mailing lists to use the reply-to to redirect replies back to SL the list by default there are times when a user will want to easily reply to SL the originator of the message and not to the list as a whole. May be a new button or a pull-down menu (as one under the Get mail button) item would be a better way then a pop-up dialog every time the user hits Reply? -- Best regards, Andrewmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.36 S/N E9230B5C under Russian Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on an AMD-K5-133 with 32Mb EDO 60ns RAM and Samsung WNR-31601A 1.6Gb hard disk -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
Hello, fellow Bat-lovers. On Saturday, October 16, 1999, 11:06:13 AM, Andrew wrote: Hello, The Bat Users! SL When the reply-to and from fields differ, offer the user the choice of SL which to use. While RFC822 states that reply-to should be used it does not SL state that it must be used to the exclusion of from. Furthermore, since 822 SL does allow for mailing lists to use the reply-to to redirect replies back to SL the list by default there are times when a user will want to easily reply to SL the originator of the message and not to the list as a whole. May be a new button or a pull-down menu (as one under the Get mail button) item would be a better way then a pop-up dialog every time the user hits Reply? I hate to keep referring to other programs, but Agent and Becky! have SO many nice features that I hope TB would emulate Becky handles this one really nicely. On the bar separating the message list from the preview pane, there is an icon called "Check Addresses". If you click on this icon, it brings up the From, Sender, Reply-To, To, and Cc fields with their contents. Among other things, you can click on the addresses you want to reply to, then click on a "Reply to the Address" button, and you've accomplished what you wanted. It's very flexible. If you just want to reply to the Reply-To address, or Reply to All, there are icons for these; you don't have to use Check Addresses unless you want the added flexibility. Keith Russell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
Hi! Kevin Boylan [EMAIL PROTECTED] about "The Bat! - suggestions": PLEASE, PLEASE, make it an option as to whether the Message Management option to "Download header only if message size is greater than" deletes the message on the server or not. I would like to be notified that there is a large message on the server so that I can download it when I have time, but the way it is right now, (at least the way it appears to work) the message gets deleted from the server all together. Yes, I definitely support this request. And another one: Is there a hotkey to jump to the next unread message (in another folder, if necessary)? -- Christian GassmannPGP keys: RSA 0x6975E6D3 - DH/DSS 0x83BD18C5 Internet Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ UIN: 12893571 Using The Bat! 1.36 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 5 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
Friday, October 15, 1999, 6:11:25 AM, Anne wrote: A function to browse through the messages on the server while online; useful for reading mail while accessing an account remotely and want to leave the messages on the server to get the mail from another computer and being able to delete big files by selection. This is IMAP at the full extent and the mail dispatcher currently. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
Hello Anne Kaeser, On Monday, October 11, 1999, 9:42:42 AM you told us: AFAIK it's there (although I have never used it). Account properties/transport/more (button next to STMP server). AK Nope, that's only special options for SMTP authentification... It's there. My Mail Server (I have set) needs POP check first before sending, and if I sending mail before check the POP, The Bat! will automatically "logon" first (to POPServer) before sending. But, if your Server use Authentification POP (APOP or MD5), there is an setting in Account|properties|transport. Or enable " allways ask POP password". -- - syafril - Name: Syafril Hermansyah | Company : Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 URL : www.dutaint.co.id | FAX : (62) (21) 351-9241 I am using The Bat! 1.36 registered at Windows NT Workstation 4.0 built 1381, Service Pack 5 Created : Tuesday, October 12, 1999, 10:03:36 (GMT + 07:00) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
