Re: why do my #?@! filters not work
Hello andrew, Historians believe that Thu, 7 Jun 2001 at 10:09 GMT +0100 was when, andrew [A] typed the following: A Hi all, A I've basically done what was outlined below but i found that if I'm A BCC'd the 'personal' filter doesn't pick it up. Is there a way round A this? A I created a personal folder as this thread generally advised A [string]'@mydomain.com' [location]recipient [presence]yes Try making a filter for anyone in your address books. To do this, put the string as 'e' or something, then under Advanced, select Address(es) must be in Address Book - Sender -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.53 RC/1 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A This almost blank page was intentional. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: why do my #?@! filters not work
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi andrew, On 07 June 2001 at 12:10:34 +0100 (which was 12:10 where I live) andrew wrote to Januk Aggarwal and made these points: JA Try making a filter for anyone in your address books. To do this, JA put the string as 'e' or something, then under Advanced, select JA Address(es) must be in Address Book - Sender a That would work assuming the sender is in my address book, but isn't a there a better way? Surely bcc should be possible to see filter on? The whole point of BCC is that the final MTA masks its presence in the message before sending it to *any* MUA (including that of the BCC recipient), so TB would never seeit. a Or is it that basically this is what the spam is doing we're trying a to kill? It is. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user ~~~ \ BrainStorm - free thinking - www: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / SB! v1.53/iKey1000( 55238-48F0B) on Windows NT 5.0.2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: GPG Sealed for freshness iD8DBQE7H2YhOeQkq5KdzaARAnL7AJwPRCbLyn91s4LCv9BylLkLd+8xDgCgukqj ezAPXHIGJ8guNKwb3lCjI3Q= =3cDt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: why do my #?@! filters not work
Hello Lars, On Friday, June 01, 2001 at 10:26:26 PM you wrote: LG You could also filter on '@' in the headers (kludges), that will LG also catch all messages. NOPE :-( ... sometimes I get message neither with any '@' in To, CC, nor in From ... If you wish, I could send a message to you not containing any informations in any visible header-fields :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.53 Beta/11 on Windows 98 4.90 Build 3000 (WindowsME) -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: why do my #?@! filters not work
Hello Peter, On Sun, 3 Jun 2001 18:56:36 +0200 GMT (04/06/2001, 00:56 +0800 GMT), Peter Palmreuther wrote: LG You could also filter on '@' in the headers (kludges), that will LG also catch all messages. PP NOPE :-( ... sometimes I get message neither with any '@' in To, CC, nor in PP From ... If you wish, I could send a message to you not containing any PP informations in any visible header-fields :-) I have never received any such message. And if either one of the headers was missing, it has always been spam. Then, a legitimate message will have a Message-ID, which will contain the @ character. Do you receive legitimate email without any of those headers? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. It takes money to make money because you have to copy the design exactly. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53 Beta/11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: why do my #?@! filters not work
Hello Thomas, On Sunday, June 03, 2001 at 7:08:20 PM you wrote: T Hello Peter, T On Sun, 3 Jun 2001 18:56:36 +0200 GMT (04/06/2001, 00:56 +0800 GMT), T Peter Palmreuther wrote: LG You could also filter on '@' in the headers (kludges), that will LG also catch all messages. PP NOPE :-( ... sometimes I get message neither with any '@' in To, CC, nor in PP From ... If you wish, I could send a message to you not containing any PP informations in any visible header-fields :-) T I have never received any such message. And if either one of the T headers was missing, it has always been spam. T Then, a legitimate message will have a Message-ID, which will contain T the @ character. T Do you receive legitimate email without any of those headers? Of course not!!! I was just replying to Lars's comment to filter on '@' to catch ALL messages ... AFAIR the discussion was about a filter that catches every message ... and there is the theoretical possibility to receive a message without an '@' in the headers users normally know about ... :-) OK .. there's a Delivered To line I've in all my e-mails but I think this is mailer-daemon specific :-) The discussed point even was not to legitimate an email by having a '@' in it, but to filter the legetimate and move the rest to trash ... but how to catch the rest ... and that was the 'filter on @' situation I wasn't able to shut up silently, but trying to impress with all my knowledge *GGG* -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.53 Beta/11 on Windows 98 4.90 Build 3000 (WindowsME) -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: why do my #?@! filters not work
Hello Peter, Anyway, to be constructive here an idea how I'd filter: [String].[Location]Anywhere[Presence]yes should catch all mails either in it's regexp-meaning or in it's physical meaning, because a '.' must be present in EVERY message because a hostname or IP IS in every message present :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.53 Beta/11 on Windows 98 4.90 Build 3000 (WindowsME) -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: why do my #?@! filters not work
Hello Peter, On Sun, 3 Jun 2001 19:28:18 +0200 GMT (04/06/2001, 01:28 +0800 GMT), Peter Palmreuther wrote: T Do you receive legitimate email without any of those headers? PP Of course not!!! PP I was just replying to Lars's comment to filter on '@' to catch PP ALL messages] @ was a suggestion of mine a log time ago, when everybody used e as the catch-all character. As I said, I have never received *any* email without the @ character in the headers - please send me that message you offered to send to Lars. Anyway, you can use e instead as the catch-all character. I still have to see an email without a rEcEivEd or datE header... or can you do that too? ;-) PP ... and that was the 'filter on @' situation I wasn't able to PP shut up silently, but trying to impress with all my knowledge *GGG* LOL! -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. When nobody is looking, Power Users pretend their mouse is a toy car, and race it around the desk. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53 Beta/11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: why do my #?@! filters not work
Hello Thomas, On Sunday, June 03, 2001 at 7:44:27 PM you wrote: T please send me that message you offered to send to Lars. Let me think about the Received header before ... THAT one I forgot to think about when searching in Kludges :-) T I still have to see an email without a rEcEivEd or datE header... or can T you do that too? ;-) At the moment I don't know exactly how about the Received-header, but the Date, From, To, Subject, Message-ID headers are really easy to fake :-) As already said: I don't know exactly how about the Delivered To: header and the '.' (period, full stop) should do it too in a 100% manner :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.53 Beta/11 on Windows 98 4.90 Build 3000 (WindowsME) -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: why do my #?@! filters not work
I am also experiencing this problem. I don't have anything special for my filters, just, if the To: box is [EMAIL PROTECTED] then send the message to Mailing List folder. I have others, but have never been able to get them to work right. -- Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Friday, June 01, 2001, 12:45:12 PM, you wrote: KM Excuse the punctuational profanity. hehe :) This is driving me crazy. KM Why can I not get some of my filters to work? Specifically, I am trying to KM filter out SPAM and have created a filter such as the following: KM Main filter area: KM [Strings]subject=remove[Location]text[Presence]yes KM Alternatives: KM [Strings]if you have received this in error[Location]text[Presence]yes KM [Strings]if you wish to be removed from this[Location]text[Presence]yes KM ...etc... KM If these (or other alternatives) are met then the message is moved to KM Trash. But it ain't workin'. KM Now I have moved this filter to the very top of my filter list and have KM just received a brand new, fresh piece of SPAM that is unread in my inbox KM and has the words If you have received this in error near the bottom of KM the email. I refilter the folder. Nothing. The flag Continue processing KM other filters? makes no difference either way, if it's turned on or off. I KM have even tried adding [ ] brackets to the Strings field to search KM specifically for that phrase, and still it doesn't work. KM What am I doing wrong?! -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: why do my #?@! filters not work
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday June 1, 2001 at 9:45:12 AM, Kelly Martin wrote: If these (or other alternatives) are met then the message is moved to Trash. But it ain't workin'. You can also try a different approach to spam messages. Instead of concentrating on spam, filter all legitimate mail to your Inbox, and then anything remaining consider as junk and have it filtered directly to the trash. The easiest way to set that up is to create a Personal Filter that has your address(s) as the Recipient, and this filter will be *second* to last in your filter list. The very *last* filter will search for e anywhere, and will filter straight into the trash. Actually works quite well. - -- Nick -=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- SecureBat! v1.53/iKey1000 | Win 98 SE | GnuPG v1.0.6 __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) - GnuPGshell v1.77 Comment: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Comment: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iD8DBQE7F9A9xQKEdHuj/c4RAsoLAKCqpG4VyK8PBWWxuK4HG7LTmchddgCgmank JihKbPtrOeACcsjZBWsYFgM= =54a0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: why do my #?@! filters not work
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, June 01, 2001, at 10:26:25 AM PDT, Nick Andriash wrote: Re: Spam filtering: NA The easiest way to set that up is to create a Personal Filter that NA has your address(s) as the Recipient, and this filter will be *second* NA to last in your filter list. The very *last* filter will search for NA e anywhere, and will filter straight into the trash. Actually works NA quite well. Hello Nick, I've taken your basic arrangement here, and added one extra element. Together, my three Spam co-filters work even better for me. I've added one filter just above Personal, that I call Spam One (the final filter being Spam Two). In Spam One, I place relevant header information for all the known Spam that has somehow gotten one of my legitimate recipient addresses that would normally be accepted by the Personal filter. For this filter, since only known spammers are placed here, I can set it to simply delete the mail from servers - instead of just placing it in the Trash. Here's the order of my final three filters: Spam One Personal Spam Two Melissa - -- PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP_Keys_2Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) - GnuPGshell v1.77 Comment: You know you're out of your league when... Comment: You write Please Turn Over on the bottom of your kayak. iD8DBQE7F9RPRg4Hd5oov/oRAub8AJ9idIw+LMxeS6FN8FeHoQwxRxbWfwCfU0wQ jAqJq5CqDF2t9jVwdYFncrQ= =U/P7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: why do my #?@! filters not work
The very *last* filter will search for e anywhere, and will filter straight into the trash. Actually works quite well. Perhaps I'm missing something here, but why the e? Thanks. -- I guess of all my uncles, I liked Uncle Cave Man the best. We called him Uncle Cave Man because he lived in a cave and every once in a while, he'd eat one of us. Later we found out that he was a bear. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.ne.mediaone.net/phred13 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: why do my #?@! filters not work
Hi Matze, On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, at 20:04:46 +0200 you wrote: Perhaps I'm missing something here, but why the e? Thanks. M Because e is in nearly every message. Therefor the filter M fits to nearly all messages. You could also filter on '@' in the headers (kludges), that will also catch all messages. -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.53 Beta/11 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 |Lars Geiger | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=GetPublicKey | -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
