Re[2]: Connection Center

2005-04-16 Thread The Bat! support
zzc [I ended up terminating The Bat via a Ctrl+Alt+Del.]
PM I remember this quite well from the 2.x series, the reason I don't
PM exactly know. I can't remember when I saw it last, so it seems to me a
PM bug that was fixed in the 3.x cycle. Different experience anyone?

It is reproducible. If TB hangs at one of your account's download, and
you  abort,  it does the same at me, also. That window is not possible
to be dismissed.

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Re[2]: Connection Center

2005-04-15 Thread z5worg

Friday, April 15, 2005, Peter Fjelsten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 z5worg,

 On 15-04-2005 09:48, you [zzc] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

zzc How do I get it back to the way it was before?

PreferencesGeneralDisplay Connection Centre = Automatically.

That is the setting I have.  It may have something to do that it
believes that the download is not finished -- although I don't see any
connection open -- resulting in my not able to exit The Bat!


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Re[2]: Connection Center

2005-04-15 Thread Marten Gallagher
zzc And there are 3 choices: Yes, No and Abort. I tried both No and Abort;
zzc and get the same result -- nothing. 

I'm on TB 3 something and get its till occasionally. I came to the conclusion 
that there are a whoe number of processes goin on as far as TB thinks and that 
each time 'abort' is clicked, one stops. Eventually I find it gets to a point 
where I click it sometimes 20 or 30 times and then TB closes.

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Re[2]: connection center

2004-09-22 Thread Gleason Pace

Roelof,

GP Don't see that under the account menu.  I did see send queued mail.
GP Tried that.

 It should be five lines below the 'send queued mail' item, when you
 still don't see it, I suggest that you re-install TB.

I see Imap Commands in that location.  Sure I can reinstall.  That
will probably make that which can't go away to go away.  But I am
concerned that they will return.  But maybe they won't.  

 BTW Your message didn't thread while it appears to be written with TB.
 Are you deleting the In-Reply-To: and References: headers? 

No, I didn't touch the headers.  But I have just learned that I can double
click on the entry in the list of attachments to the main message.
That gets me a view of only your reply that can be replied to without 
changing the address and subject.  Pretty nice.  Maybe doing it manually
before didn't preserve the headers.

GP Gleason
GP 
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 You really must include a signature delimiter (dash, dash, space),
 that way TB would've deleted this stuff automatically. Besides it's in
 the list rules.

You mean like below?  TB is doing that by default.  Maybe I removed it
without thinking.  Sorry.

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Re[2]: connection center

2004-09-22 Thread Gleason Pace

Roelof,

I see Imap Commands in that location.  Sure I can reinstall.  That
will probably make that which can't go away to go away.  But I am
concerned that they will return.  But maybe they won't.  

Did the reinstall.  I now have a configuration toolbar with
a dispatch button.  I have been able to keep dead tasks out
of the connection center too.  I think it was not a good idea
to install 3.0 professional edition on top of 2.12.


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Re[2]: Connection Center

2004-02-23 Thread Mary Bull
Hello ETM,

Monday, February 23, 2004, 1:25:40 AM, you wrote:

E ... The connection center is working ...

Elaine, this thread has helped me, too, because I had forgotten that
Options/Preferences/General was the place to choose Always. My CC
dialogue window had moved itself to a place on my screen that was less
convenient for me.

So now I've been able to drag it down off the toolbar. While I was at
it, I grabbed the horizontal line between the list section and the
details section (with the pie chart etc.) and that way I was able to
give the list section a little more space.

And even at this unholy hour of the morning I remembered that to make
it all stick I needed to close the window. I did that, and the CC
completely disappeared.

Had enough common sense (half a cup of coffee down by now) to trot
back to Preferences and look at the CC setting. Sure enough, TB! had
dutifully put the choice back to Automatically. I put it to
Always, and for once Microsoft did not fail me. The changes I had
made did stick.

E ... but I am too tired to remember what it looked like (or getting
E too old and this is my first hint of trouble grin).

Well, ETM is a spring chicken compared to me. g I have written all
this about my experience just in case she should wake up this morning
with a yen to play around with what the CC looks like in the clear
light of day. :)

E I am going to bed.  Greetings to you both from Virginia USA.

Hope you slept well. And greetings (with thanks) to you, Scott, and
Roelof, from Tennessee USA--where the sun might show itself on this
cloudy morning, although it may be waking ETM (the night-owl g) up
this minute. :)

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Re[2]: connection center

2003-12-15 Thread Richard H. Stoddard
Roelof,

Monday, December 15, 2003, 9:57:15 PM, you wrote:

RO On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:14:28 +0500GMT (15-12-03, 16:14 +0100, where I
RO live), you wrote:

RO What happens here is that TB sends the message. However due to
RO your settings it's delivering it's message to Norton's AV proxy.
RO Norton doesn't do any real time scanning, what it really does is
RO receiving the message via an smtp service, stores the message to
RO disk, scans the stored file and sends it further after it's being
RO processed. So when TB sends a message, it doesn't send it to your
RO ISP's smtp server, but it sends the message to a local smtp
RO service on your pc. That's a high speed connection. ;-)

Thanks for the response. At least now I understand what was happening.
I'll try to reconfigure Norton to not scan outgoing e-mails and see if
that helps.

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Re[2]: Connection Center Hanging (cont.)

2003-08-23 Thread dajabo

TF Where/when does it hang? Connecting to server?

well yes, connecting to host


DR Do you happen to have a firewall installed? or an antivirus with mail
DR checking installed? or a spam checker installed?  Is it possible that
DR the POP server verifies the e-mail while you download the messages?

yes I have Zone Alarm and a hardware wall (I keep ZA to monitor
outgoing traffic). My McAffee AV has Outlook email scanning enabled,
and its 'download and email scanning' enabled. I have no spam checker,
and I don't know about the POP server verifying the email while I
download the messages. Should I?

As I said, I haven't made any configuration changes, that I am aware
of, to the bat or to ZA or my anti-virus. As I'm writing this the
connection center has been connecting to host for over 10 minutes to
the pop server at postmark.net (I have 4 accounts here). I have one
other account through my university that never seems to hang.

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Re[2]: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?

2001-11-30 Thread Arturo Quirantes

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El día 30/11/2001, a las 10:07, escribiste:

 Hi Arturo,

 On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 08:53:20 +0100GMT (30/11/2001, 15:53 +0800GMT),
 Arturo Quirantes wrote:

AQ I have a related problem. I get the CC in the taskbar, but
cannot
AQ make it appear!

 How about Maximise? Maybe the size is set to zero or something, so
 that's why you don't see it. Maybe also it is located off the
 screen, so that Restore option is greyed out, because it is already
 restored?  

Maybe, because I cannot maximize, either.

 When you clikc on Minimise, does the Restore option suddenly
 reappear?  

Yes, it does (and it´s the only option then available).

 Someone here on the list should remember in which registry key the
 setting for size and location are stored. And what the default
 values are, to which you should set them.

I also had the idea that it might be off the screen, but I
have been unable to find the size/location data in the registry is.
First one to find it can consider him/herself invited to paella next
time you come to Granada, Spain.


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Re[2]: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?

2001-11-30 Thread Arturo Quirantes

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Hola Thomas,

El día 30/11/2001, a las 11:53, escribiste:

 Hi Arturo,

 On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 10:10:46 +0100GMT (30/11/2001, 17:10 +0800GMT),
 Arturo Quirantes wrote:

 How about Maximise?

AQ Maybe, because I cannot maximize, either.

 Of all the options in the context menu, whcih oens are available?

 When you clikc on Minimise, does the Restore option suddenly
 reappear?

AQ Yes, it does (and it´s the only option then available).

 You mean the Close option is not available, either? I am asking
 because what you say seems to prove my theory, but there might
 still be anotehr reason.

Well, it does:

- When I press Alt+F2, the CC shows in the taskbar.  The
options available are: Move, Size, Minimize, Close.

- If i Minimize, the options available are Restore and
Close.

 Someone here on the list should remember in which registry key
 the setting for size and location are stored. And what the
 default values are, to which you should set them.

AQ I also had the idea that it might be off the screen, but
I
AQ have been unable to find the size/location data in the registry
is.

 Just looked, no luck either. :-(

Lars Geiger suggested:

 HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat!/RAS (Top|Left|Height|Width)

I checked out, and the RAS decimal values are: 31 (Height),
160 (Width), 3000 (Left, Top).  3000 seems a bit too much, so I
lowered to 100, to no avail.

Most shocking, in the Editor and Source Viewer subfolders,
the values of Left and Top were 2147483694 !  A little too high,
don´t you think?  Other piece of information: just before this
problem first arose, Windows advised me of some problem with the
registry.  It said it had repaired it, but I´m not so sure.  Doh!

AQ First one to find it can consider him/herself invited to paella
next
AQ time you come to Granada, Spain.

 That promise alone made me search the registry manually! ;-)

Maybe the way out of the dotcom crisis is easier than we
thought ;-)

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Re[2]: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?

2001-11-30 Thread Arturo Quirantes

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Hola Thomas,

El día 30/11/2001, a las 12:37, escribiste:

 It proves my theory that the size is either zero or the window off
 the screen.

AQ Lars Geiger suggested:

AQ  HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat!/RAS (Top|Left|Height|Width)

AQ I checked out, and the RAS decimal values are: 31
(Height),
AQ 160 (Width), 3000 (Left, Top).  3000 seems a bit too much, so I
AQ lowered to 100, to no avail.

 Is RAS the Connection Center?

I don´t know.  Might be.  Anyway, the Top and Left
values (no RAS) have also vry high values, and Width (no RAS)
is zero!

But it gets weirder. I open the Registry Editor, change
those values (as well as the RAS ones) to reasonable values, save,
go back to TB, and it doesn´t work.  Back to the Registry Editor:
now the values are same as before making any change!  Seems like
there´s a won´t-let-you-repair-it mode on!  I´m starting to lose
faith in the whole Registry.  I´ll keep trying

 Could well be the problem. Do you have a backup of your reg key?
 FYI whenever I backup TB, I also backup its reg key.

Unfortunately, I never did backup the reg. key.  I mean, the
entire Windows registry.  Is there a separate copy of TB registry,
anywhere?  FWIW, I have another copy of TB in a different computer,
so I think I will now export the bad reg and compare to the good
one.

AQ Maybe the way out of the dotcom crisis is easier than we thought
AQ ;-)

 By offering Paella? ;-)

Well, all people need is a good incentive.  And I don´t see
stock options working now...

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Re[2]: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?

2001-11-30 Thread Arturo Quirantes

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Hola Roelof,

SUCCESS!!!  I finally got to change and save the reg.
settings, and now I got the CC back.  Certainly, it was a registry
problem.  Well, now I know better about reg matters, including
backups!

Thank to all of you who gave me a hand.  Roelof and Thomas
won the paella (half each) for their good suggestions.  Lars also
gets a second price (ham and gazpacho fine for you?), and BTW,
weather in Granada is fine, cold but sunny, with a sky resort 30 km
away, an Arab palace in the landscape and the beach down south. What
are you waiting for?  Come and get your award!

Tx.  Arturo Q.

El día 30/11/2001, a las 15:43, escribiste:

 Hello Arturo,

 On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:02:42 +0100GMT (30-11-2001, 12:02 +0100GMT,
 where I live), you wrote:

 Just looked, no luck either. :-(
AQ Lars Geiger suggested:
AQ  HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat!/RAS (Top|Left|Height|Width)


AQ Most shocking, in the Editor and Source Viewer
subfolders,
AQ the values of Left and Top were 2147483694 !  A little too high,
AQ don´t you think?  Other piece of information: just before this
AQ problem first arose, Windows advised me of some problem with the
AQ registry.  It said it had repaired it, but I´m not so sure. 
Doh!

 That looks like the source of the problem.


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Re[2]: Connection Center problem with HTML messages.

2001-06-15 Thread David Stone

Hello,

Friday, June 15, 2001, 10:27:45 AM, you wrote:

 Hello,
 
 Thursday, June 14, 2001, 7:29:57 AM, you wrote:
 
 I'm still having some problems with the connection centre.
 Neither do the end task or abort buttons work.
 
 But what I have found is
 
 Messages that are stuck when viewed show a blank page (HTML is set to
 display but problem occurs if it's set to off!) but I can use the view
 source option to see the content..
 
 Normally I connect via cable modem but if I switch from LAN to dial up
 in Network Administration then the next time some accounts are due for
 checking the one's that are 'stuck' in the cc are re accessed and are
 downloaded okay. However I then get an application error:-
 
 Exception EAccessViolation 36F426F0 in module THEBAT.EXE
 Read of Address 37343934
 
 Does anyone know if any IE files/modules are accessed by TheBat! as
 I'm wondering if this problem is being caused by a damaged IE file.

fvnc I have almost the same problems as you descrive and things started to go wrong 
since the connection centre was introduced in the Bat. 
fvnc The problems still exist in the latest beta versions and also in the official 
relase 1.53BIS. For this reason I decided to go back to version 1.51.

fvnc My operating system is Windows ME!

fvnc Regards,
fvnc Fred van Veen
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and the non display of .png graphics I decided to revert back to IE
ver 5. I noticed that this solved the favorites problem and I was also
able to view the wayward HTML messages that were earlier showing as a
blank page.

I then went and reloaded the Java VM and also re-installed  IE 5.5 and
ran the Internet Repair option. This has fixed my IE problem and
without wanting to celebrate too soon TheBat! connection centre also
appears to be functioning properly. At least it's been running for 12
hours now and has downloaded various HTML content messages from the
previous 'problem accounts' (the accounts from problem accounts and
functioning accounts were all on the same server so I guessed it was
not a server thing). I'm hoping that there is a component/module of
IE that is used by TheBat! So perhaps it will be okay now.

The other alternative I'd considered was that it was a particular HTML
tag in a message that was causing a problem and that perhaps so far I
haven't received an HTML with that tag in it!!! I hope I'm wrong
though.




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Re[2]: Connection Center problem with HTML messages.

2001-06-15 Thread David Stone

Hello,

Friday, June 15, 2001, 10:29:22 PM, you wrote:


MDP Hi David,

MDP On 15 June 2001 at  22:09:17 +0100 (which was 22:09 where I live)
MDP David Stone wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points:



MDP Although I have seen some sticking with the CC, I've found that
MDP forcing a secondary mail check kicks it. Then again, I run to a
MDP server on the LAN.

I tried that but couldn't get the secondary check to run. But it
probably explains what happens if I switch from using the LAN to a
dial up mode which has the same effect. But when I tried that,
although it worked I ended up with an application error which closed
TheBat!

DS I just wonder now that if the pop3 server fails in some way that
DS the check is not timed out correctly.

MDP It does seem that way.

In a way I hope that's so because I can then stop poking about here
making an even bigger mess!


MDP moderator
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MDP Please try to trim original material to the relevant points.

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Re[2]: Connection Center

2001-06-13 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Markus,

Wednesday, June 13, 2001, 9:46:29 AM, you wrote:

 Connection Center
 Is there a way to get it to stay up?

MG Navigate to Options/Preferences/General and set Display Connection
MG Center to Always.

Thanks, works as advertised, but unfortunately, there is nothing to
look at unless it is processing a task...  I guess I will have to go
to a slow dialup connection and let my biggest account fill up for a
couple of days. g

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Re[2]: Connection Center Blues

2001-05-22 Thread Yuki Taga

Tuesday, May 22, 2001, 8:33:49 PM, Jannik wrote:

JL It seems to me that the the pattern is quite simple: the only thing
JL that will bring the CC on top and in focus is doing the F2-command.
JL Perhaps this is meant as a simple way to ensure, that you can have TB
JL check for new mail in the background without the CC popping up to
JL disturb you. If I were you, I would uncheck the option for checking
JL mail at startup and begin doing the F2-command instead. Not nearly as
JL wrist-wretching as battling with the the CC...

Takes one click to open TB from the Quick Launch Tool Bar and have it check
for mail.  If I have to click it to open it, then go to Alt-F2 (not just
F2) to get it to check mail for all accounts and have the CC on top where
it belongs, I just may give up TB.  If the developers are going to muck
around with such an important feature, apparently without much user input,
and make more work than there was in earlier versions, I don't want the app
on my systems.  Sorry, but I'm really peeved about this.  I want to open TB
with one click, have it poll all the accounts, and have a progress
indicator on top where I can see what's happening.  Almost all other mail
apps have this.  TB better get it back soon, or, I wager, some users will
leave, and not as many new ones will come.  WAKE UP RIT Labs.

Best,

Yuki

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Re[2]: Connection Center Blues

2001-05-22 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Tuesday, May 22, 2001, 10:31:31 AM, Ottar Grimstad wrote:

SC Actualy it isn't random at all. When you press F2 to check for
SC mail, CC will come up on top, if TB! automatically checks for
SC mail then CC will start minimized.

   CC is always miminized here, on automatic mailchecks, F2 Alt-F2,
   whatever. Annoying.

   And the habit of making windows too small for the information
   contained without an option for maximizing, annoying too.

You do have some options in the Options menu.

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Re[2]: Connection Center Blues

2001-05-22 Thread William Moore

Hello Silviu,

Tuesday, May 22, 2001, 2:04:09 PM, you wrote:

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SC Tuesday, May 22, 2001, 1:00:12 PM, William Moore wrote:

 I find the focus is 'random' - sometimes it's on top,
 sometimes it isn't. I haven't found a pattern yet. There
 must be one - it's software after all!

SC Actualy it isn't random at all. When you press F2 to check for
SC mail, CC will come up on top, if TB! automatically checks for
SC mail then CC will start minimized.


Now you come to mention it...

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Re[2]: Connection Center Blues

2001-05-22 Thread Yuki Taga

Wednesday, May 23, 2001, 12:56:00 AM, Dierk wrote:

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DH Hello Yuki!

DH On Tuesday, May 22, 2001 at 2:18:13 PM you wrote:

 Takes one click to open TB from the Quick Launch Tool Bar and have it check
 for mail.  If I have to click it to open it, then go to Alt-F2 (not just
 F2) to get it to check mail for all accounts and have the CC on top where
 it belongs, I just may give up TB.

DH I still can't follow. When I've started my computer in the morning,
DH first thing I do is to double click my shortcut to TB!. It is set to
DH check my mail accounts at start-up, which it does. The CC asks for my
DH password to my ISP and dials in. The CC gets the focus, goes to the
DH front and asks for the account passwords at my POP3 servers. And the
DH CC stays in focus and on top ...

Not the behavior I get.  But I don't have to enter a password for ISP
dialup either.  CC always is minimized.

I can understand those who wouldn't want the CC popping up and getting the
focus if you're leaving TB running all the time.  But I also think this
could be made a configurable setting.  If not, I'm leaving TB.

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Best,

Yuki

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Re[2]: Connection Center Blues

2001-05-22 Thread Yuki Taga

Wednesday, May 23, 2001, 1:04:03 PM, Thomas wrote:

T Hello Dave,

T On Tue, 22 May 2001 10:42:49 -0500 GMT (22/05/2001, 23:42 +0800 GMT),
T Dave Gorman wrote:

DG Now perhaps if the CC took the focus every time mail was checked I might
DG have to abandon TB! :)

T LOL!

T FWIW I, too, like the behaviour the way it is. :-)

The behavior should be adjustable, obviously.

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Yuki

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