Re[2]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hello Watcher, On Friday, December 17, 2004, 10:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: going into the Spam folder. After reading your message I will double-check the Spam folder from now on. I should have been more clear; I meant g-mail's spam folder, so I'm reliant on g-mail's spam filter. I don't have g-mail forwarded to my TB! accounts. W Don't you guys use the plugin spam filter that comes with TB? Some people seem to have good success with the BayesIt plug in; but many have reported problems with it here on the list. I tried BayesFilter and found it was much more efficient, but there seemed to be some problems with XP SP2 compatibility. Now I'm using K9 for spam filtering. -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hello Watcher, On Friday, December 17, 2004, 3:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: be some problems with XP SP2 compatibility. Now I'm using K9 for spam filtering. W I haven't heard of or used K9 so I can't speak to that but I'm W running XP SP2 with baysit just fine. To clarify, the suspected compatibility problem with XP SP2 was with the otherwise excellent program, Bayesfilter (which can also be used as a plugin with TB!). I have no experience with BayesIt. K9 isn't a TB! plugin but operates very smoothly and so far is working at over 98% accuracy. But, if BayesIt works for you, there is certainly no reason to switch. :-) -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hello Alexander, Friday, December 17, 2004, 12:25:13 PM, you wrote: That´s ASK Is it just me or is Diego's ... well, whatever character 'those' are, ASK somehow messed up? And if so, why? Character set issue. I'm using Latin-9, and I used the 'tilde' char ´ instead of the other one, '. In my old keyboard, they're in the same place. Sorry. -- Best regards, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Diego +-- | The Bat! 3.0.1.33 + K9 v1.28 | Windows XP Build 2600 +-- pgpIoiB5EkMpk.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hello Alexander, Thursday, December 16, 2004, 5:17:34 AM, you wrote: No way to avoid that. I´ve signed on a DSL account, the gave me three email boxes. Never used them, I use yahoo for lists and gmail for personal things. Yesterday, I´ve checked them to see if they were up, and they were full of spam (200-300 msg. each, no, I don´t need penis enlargement, thanks). ASK Spammers are targetting large freemail services (gmx, web.de, yahoo, ASK hotmail, msn, etc.) with name generators. Probably valid email ASK addresses (john.smith john_smith james.smith james_smith etc. etc., ASK you get the idea) will be generated sent out. Yeah, I assumed that. But the account isn´t a freemail service, it´s a paid service, and a big one for Argentina (50.000 users at 3 to 10 accounts each). Although, half of the spam is spanish, so I think commercial spam filters would have a hard time figuring it out, as common spanish has at least four times the amount of words as the full non-technical english; and every dialect has words unique to them. -- Best regards, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Diego +-- | The Bat! 3.0.1.33 + K9 v1.28 | Windows XP Build 2600 +-- pgpNFUutyz2YH.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hello Tony, Tuesday, December 14, 2004, 7:41:01 PM, you wrote: TB I have a yahoo address for exactly that an it must be so full of crap now I TB daren't look at it. Also my G-Mail account is now getting spam regularly after TB about one month and the only place I ever used it is on here. No way to avoid that. I´ve signed on a DSL account, the gave me three email boxes. Never used them, I use yahoo for lists and gmail for personal things. Yesterday, I´ve checked them to see if they were up, and they were full of spam (200-300 msg. each, no, I don´t need penis enlargement, thanks). Never gave the address to anybody, and the provider says he didn´t release the info. The weird thing is, I practically don´t get spam on the yahoo account (2-3 a week, and gone with K9). -- Best regards, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Diego +-- | The Bat! 3.0.1.33 + K9 v1.28 | Windows XP Build 2600 +-- pgpBDI98YMWeG.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hello Mica, Thursday, December 16, 2004, 1:22:19 PM, you wrote: common spanish has at least four times the amount of words as the full non-technical english; and every dialect has words unique to them. MM Filter them by headers then? Nope, use the long term solution: feed K9 EVERYTHING arriving in spanish, and after 3000/3500 msgs, it´s getting the hang of it. MM What form of addressing your spammers use? Something like Just dduca73 @ yahoo and dduca @ myprovider.com.ar (arnet). More on the next reply. -- Best regards, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Diego +-- | The Bat! 3.0.1.33 + K9 v1.28 | MyMacros 1.11a | Windows XP Build 2600 +-- pgp7EzWRRHe3u.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hello Mica, Thursday, December 16, 2004, 11:59:33 AM, you wrote: MM I suspect some other things as well, lately: that spammers subscribe to MM the lists in order to harvest addresses. (...) MM As I see, you have your mailto in the body of your messages. Could MM that be the possible cause? That´s the funny thing. I DONT´T get spam to the mail I write with smoke in the sky for everyone to see! And instead, I get a lot from an account that I´ve never accesed since creation, a month ago. Being honest, they all start with dduca, and they´re all listed in my PGP key, but I don´t believe they go harvest there. MM Another reason for this suspicion of mine, is this: if I write something MM about illegal software, I start to receive offerings related to cheap MM software; if I write something about drugs, I get heaps of related MM offerings FYI, I´m subscribed to around 30 lists, some for ex-jobs I like to get current (I´m working in a hotel since 2002 and the Argentine crisis) just in case. Pharmaceutical (I have a degree in chemistry), telecoms (worked there too), some personals including RPGs, Magic the gathering (yeah, I know), school, college and university ex-student groups, RC modeling, and some computer-related. I don´t browse for porn, since (a), I´m married quite recently, and (b), let´s be honest, it´s easier and cheaper to rent. So... I don´t get a pattern. Oh, and it´s beginning to get heavier on nig-419. No messages about toys, nor models, nor drugs (except the viagra-enlargement), nor games. I think about the same as you, bt I can´t confirm that suspicion with facts... (-8 MM if I write about sex, I get an avalanche of these... enlargement offerings. MM Honestly, I do not need any of these three, *especially* not *some* of them. And there´s no way to tell them that 95% of the girls like it as we like Coke, regular, please... (-8 PD: All that typing, and my mate got cold ;-) -- Best regards, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Diego +-- | The Bat! 3.0.1.33 + K9 v1.28 | MyMacros 1.11a | Windows XP Build 2600 +-- pgpaCjkc48Z0O.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hello Tony, Thursday, December 16, 2004, 2:15:18 PM, you wrote: enlargement offerings. Honestly, I do not need any of these TB Perhaps if you took up the enlargement offerings it would draw the attention TB away from your white hairy chest and you wouldn't need to shave it :) Hey! It´s not his fault that (put a cross on the right circle) () He works nights and barely sees the sun half hour a day (like I do) () He lives in a place where the night lasts six months (not like I do) () He is a sun-hater vampire (definitely not like I am) -- Best regards, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Diego +-- | The Bat! 3.0.1.33 + K9 v1.28 | MyMacros 1.11a | Windows XP Build 2600 +-- pgpI4pyV98J2I.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hi Tony, On Tuesday, December 14, 2004, 10:22 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... TB I have a yahoo address for exactly that an it must be so full of crap now I TB daren't look at it. Also my G-Mail account is now getting spam regularly after TB about one month and the only place I ever used it is on here. I was also getting a ton of spam through g-mail. The last batch I reported (as per the button on the main g-mail window) and haven't had any since. Could be coincidence but if you haven't tried it... -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hello Tony, Tuesday, December 14, 2004, 4:51:25 PM, you wrote: TB Hotmail on the other hand doesn't, I'm pretty sure of that. You'll need a third TB party addon like web2pop to be able to do it. The Bat can't access web based TB email unless pop access is supported by the provider. It is possible (supported by the provider) for UK Yahoo accounts. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.0.2.10 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hello Tony, Tuesday, December 14, 2004, 5:39:14 PM, you wrote: MP It is possible (supported by the provider) for UK Yahoo accounts. TB Yahoo? Sorry, I got the wrong end of the twig, I thought he was talking about TB Hotmail. No, you didn't, but somewhere Yahoo was mentioned as being supported by one of the apps. TB Who uses Hotmail anyway other than kids and spammers? Apparently he needs to use it (in/with messenger) for some reason. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.0.2.10 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hello Tony, Tuesday, December 14, 2004, 5:39:14 PM, you wrote: TB Who uses Hotmail anyway other than kids and spammers? Well, as far as age is concerned, I'm not a kid. Nor am I a spammer. I do have an Hotmail account though. Albeit only for the following reasons: - I used it for testing purposes first (a few messages/month) - I then also started usng the account for IM, although I seldom use Messenger; I'm using Trillian [ that's not Mary! :-) ] instead. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.0.2.10 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hello Tony, Tuesday, December 14, 2004, 11:41:01 PM, you wrote: TB I have a yahoo address for exactly that an it must be so full of crap now I TB daren't look at it. Also my G-Mail account is now getting spam regularly after TB about one month and the only place I ever used it is on here. The small amount of Yahoo mail I receive comes in through The Bat! and there is no Spam in it. Nor is there in my G-mail account(none at all!) I don't know if that has anything to do with the fact that I never could invite someone for a G-mail account :-) There are +/- 3 Spam messages per month in my Hotmail account... Most of the Spam comes in through my partous com account. There's almst none in my partous be account... In the .com account I get a lot of Spam that is intended for Americans only. I suppose this has to do with the fact that it is a .com address. It's easier to see that someone with a .be account probbly won't be an American... :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.0.2.10 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
MDP So - why not get a new passport based on your regular email address MDP and use that and save yourself all these issues? If I've known that I can use my regular mail, sure, I did it. You are sure that my MSN account will not be deleted ? But an other question : MSN use mail address and not nickname or number (like ICQ) for people can connect you. It will put my regular address visible. Not dangerous concerning spam ? -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.0.1.33 BayesIt! 0.7.3 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
MM Yes, you do. Hotmail/MSN sending and receiving and Yahoo mail receiving MM (with version 5). I just test it but it doesn't work. I wait a long time when checking for new mail and after 3 mn, error time out ! If you or somebody else know what is wrong, you can help me if you want by private mail, because I don't want to bother the list with foxmail help needed. Thanks -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.0.1.33 BayesIt! 0.7.3 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
TB What has MSN got to do with Hotmail, apart from the fact they're both Microsoft. I don't know exactly the difference. It's difficult for me to understand. I try to explain the history : 1- First I needed an instant electronic mail : so I 've chosen MSN Messenger 2- To work with MSN Messenger, I had to create a passport with a Hotmail account : so I created an address like [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3- Microsoft force you to have a use of the hotmail at least one time per month. If not, your account (mail and messenger account) is deleted ! 4-I didn't want to use this hotmail because I've already personal adresses for exchange with my friends. I just need messenger 5- So I decided to send and receive automatic mails with TB scheduler to simulate an activity of my hotmail, and I hope it will be sufficient. But I can't manage my hotmail address with TB. And not with foxmail anymore ! :-( And if I want POP and SMTP features with my Microsoft hotmail, it cost 20 EUR per year ! :-( A little bit expensive for just using Messenger and never use the mails... -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.0.1.33 BayesIt! 0.7.3 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
TB Who uses Hotmail anyway other than kids and spammers? A lot of students use it in France. Be sure... -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.0.1.33 BayesIt! 0.7.3 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
MM Did you try the Foxmail yet? I can manage my hotmail via foxmail ? -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.0.1.33 BayesIt! 0.7.3 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
