Re[2]: Registration woes, and still trying to recover from installing vs 3.5
Sunday, August 7, 2005, 5:45:34 AM, you wrote: Hello Handsome Jack Morrison everyone else, on 07-Aug-2005 at 00:57 you (Handsome Jack Morrison) wrote: Will there be conflicts because of that, if and when I ever do attempt to re-import the old data into my new version of TB? If you want to import ONLY the message, no problem. If you want to import your old settings, filters, templates, no good. In that case, use the old account names. You can trust Curtis. Its better to rename the accounts later. Oh, I trust him, Alexander. I'm just exploring my options. So, okay. I'd like to preserve the settings in several of my accounts, especially the templates in one of them. I've now renamed each Account the way they are named in my old Bat file. Your instructions said to: 3. Re-create your accounts as they were before (same names, same pathes for mail directories) - one by one. I think I've done that now. I always use the default path for mail directories, so I should be good there, too. For each account you created, copy the files you backed up before back, then check to see if the program is still running. That way, you can identify the account thats giving you the headache. I have some more questions about the above. What files do I copy over, and to where do I copy them? For example, there's a folder in the old file (in the MAIL directory) that is named John Doe. Do I copy that file *over* the John Doe folder in my new Bat files? I.e., do I select the old John Doe folder, type Ctrl-C, move to the new John Doe folder, select it, and then type Ctrl-V? And when you say check to see if the program is running do you mean that I should then try to open TB? 4.When you found the problematic account, try to remove/rename the account configuration files (account.xxx) one by one. You will eventually find the configuration file that is causing the problems. Okay. I find 6 account configuration files (account.xxx) in the old Bat file. Account.~FLB Account.CFG Account.CFN Account.FLB Account.FLX Account.SRB I assume those are the account configuration files that you're referring too? So, if, for example, TB doesn't open up after copying over the John Doe file, I should go back into the new Bat files and remove/rename, one at a time, each of those accounts (e.g., Account.CFN, etc.)? Which makes me think that TB recreates them each time it's loaded if one (or more) of them isn't already there, right? What if I end up with the same problem that brought me here in the first place? I need a beer... A little more hand-holding, please! -- Best regards, Jack Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Registration woes, and still trying to recover from installing vs 3.5
Sunday, August 7, 2005, 5:13:44 PM, you wrote: Hello Handsome Jack Morrison everyone else, on 07-Aug-2005 at 20:14 you (Handsome Jack Morrison) wrote: And btw. - when you copy the old account folders and their subfolders back into place, you'll also restore your old messages (and eventually will find your original TB registration message). I assume that just by copying the old account folder (e.g., John Doe) each account's subfolder(s) will tag a long, right? If you copy the entire folder, its OK. I thought you might only copy the single files, that why I mentioned it. I was going to find the old account file folder (e.g., the one labeled John Doe), select it, and then hit Ctrl-C. Then I was going to find the new account file folder, select it, and hit Ctrl-V. At one point when you copied over another set of configuration files, your TB *will* hang again for sure. At this point, you know now which account contains the faulty configuration file. If that happens, you go back to the new set of configuration files you backed up before. Then move the old files back again, but this time, not all at once, but one after the other. I'm confused. What do you mean by not all at once? I wouldn't have copied them over all at once before, but one at a time. I thought you have multiple accounts. Not all of them will contain corrupt configuration files. I think we just have a bit of a semantics problem. By all at once, I thought you meant all at the same time. Yes, I have 10 accounts. And I was planning on copying the old accounts over to the new accounts -- but one at a time. So, first you copy the entire account back and see if TB still starts fine. If it doesn't, you have found the problem account. Only then, and only in this problem account, you try one file at a time, so that we can restore the maximum of configuration data from the old account files. Here's where I'm losing you again. And, frankly, I'm getting a little burned out. In fact, I'm worn to a frazzle. And what do you mean by move the old files back again? And back where? Old, as in the files from old TB that wouldn't load? If I move one of them to the new TB, and TB won't load (like before) isn't that the only one that needs to be removed/renamed, because I can re-create it from scratch again? Yes, but as I wrote above, you can limit it to (most likely) one single configuration file (lets say account.srb), and you'll still have the rest of the OK files. Okay. That helps explain it. The way I see it, I'm, at best, going to lose at least one Account's configuration files (provided only one Account is corrupted), right? Not the entire files, if you go thru these one at a time once you located the problematic account. I'm afraid that I'm going to screw this up royally. Not now, we're so close, man. Close, but no cigar, I'm afraid. I really shouldn't try this in my present state of mind, plus it's getting late. So I'm going to sleep on it again. I've printed out all of your messages, and I'm going to read them, then read them again, then read them again, and then maybe give it a shot (if I happen to experience one of those Eureka! moments while reading them). Or, I may just decide to leave well enough alone, and just cut my losses. I couldn't go through this again. I just couldn't. Whatever happens, Alexander, I sincerely appreciate your patience and willingness to give me a hand. And I apologize for making what to you is probably like tying your shoelaces into something closer to open-heart surgery. You're a great guy, and so is Roelof (even if he eventually decides to cut me loose). Good night. -- Best regards, Jack Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Registration woes, and still trying to recover from installing vs 3.5
Saturday, August 6, 2005, 12:23:32 PM, you wrote: On Sat, 2005-08-06 at 12:11 -0400, Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: How can I get this resolved? You can restore the registry backup you've made, it will contain the registration information. But I have to restore all of it or none of it, right? But, since you installed the program all new, you'll have your 30 day evaluation period (the only problem is the evaluation reminder window when you start the program, and add new accounts). That should give you time enough to restore your accounts one by one and eventually get to the one account that contains your registration for v3. :-) I've been thinking, and while that's always dangerous for me, I think I want to start over again with a clean slate. New settings, new filters, new preferences, etc. (now that I've got several of my Accounts working again, I've stopped panicking, at least for the time being). Yes, I'd like to have all of my old e-mails back, but only a dozen (out of the the thousands I had on file) or more were what I'd call critical ones (like the one containing my Bat key!). Is there anyway to recover just my old registration key from my backup of the old registry? -- Best regards, Jack Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
