Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Marten Gallagher wrote: Now comes the bit that always used to work: For what it's worth, this key bit of information was not present in earlier messages. If it is literally the case that it used to work, and then you changed nothing and now it doesn't work, well, that's not good. Since this case is highly unlikely, it might be worth pondering what you have changed since it worked. Did you upgrade to a newer version of TB? Did you upgrade anything else? I cannot be sufficiently precise on that - things change all the time here. I have recently upgraded to 3.62.14 but it could have started not working before that. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Marten Gallagher wrote: Marten Gallagher wrote: Alternatively, you could just set the following in your per-folder reply templates (but it's more to manage): %From=Webmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's what I'm doing - I obviously wasn't clear in my original message. It doesn't work here... Ok, none of your previous messages have done this. Try a template without a line that clears the %From first; such a line is unnecessary as you can't have a message from more than one address anyway. Been there, done that, no diff -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Hallo Marten, On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 09:38:27 +GMT (18-11-2005, 10:38 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MG Been there, done that, no diff Apparently something's gone corrupt in your installation. Create a full internal backup with TB. Uninstall TB Install TB again Restore your backup. Yes I was thinking that might be it. Do I need to remove regsitry keys? If yes - where can I find a guide to which ones they are? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Hallo Marten, On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 09:38:27 +GMT (18-11-2005, 10:38 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MG Been there, done that, no diff Apparently something's gone corrupt in your installation. Create a full internal backup with TB. Uninstall TB Install TB again Restore your backup. OK - stripped everything out - uninstall, deleted registry key, moved message storage folder, deleted Program files folder (after uninstall). Re-installed. Same problem! So evidently I have some setting somewhere, some filter somewhere, somethign somewhere that is over-riding the common folder templates. The question is: where to start looking? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
On Thursday, November 17, 2005, 4:56:24 PM, Marten Gallagher wrote: HOWEVER... at an unspecified time in the not too recent past, this seems to have changed and the FROM address is always [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the signature(s) are always that which is set for the [EMAIL PROTECTED] ACCOUNT FOLDER templates. Sorry to be so long-winded... Not long winded, just more complete and explicit. I created a common folder and populated it with some messages. Gave the folder an indentity. Created a reply to one of the messages, which used the reply template from the proper account. I readdressed the reply to one of my accounts, and sent it. It showed up in the sent folder of a different account than the identity account, but when I got it back it had all the right headers. It was labeled as from the chosen account, and had the correct reply to address. I think that means that I was unable to recreate the problem you described, and I think what I tried parallels what you are trying to do? (I did all this in POP, not in IMAP) So - just to double-check: the email was in a COMMON FOLDER which had its own identity? you created a reply to it? the created email acquired (before sending) the FROM NAME, FROM ADDRESS, REPLYTO ADDRESS as set in that COMMON FOLDER's identity? Any signature set for that COMMON FOLDER template was acquired by the created reply before sending)? Do you have an account set as the default for mailto URLs? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
On Friday, November 18, 2005, 6:41:45 AM, Marten Gallagher wrote: yes. A different one than I thought, and the one through which the message was actually sent. So worked even more like it should have than I thought. Hmmm... it is now more mysterious - or perhaps if someine knows what theey're doing - less mysterious: A new message from a common folder fails to acquire the idientity as set and fails to use the template as set. A reply or a forward of a message in the same common folder DOES acquire the identity and the template! -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Admin, I am webmaster for a number of clients. For each I use the address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a separate folder for mail in and out for each of those. snipped quite a bit Have you tried setting a different Identity in the Properties of each folder? Yes all those entries are as they should be - i.e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc etc -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Marten Gallagher wrote: Alternatively, you could just set the following in your per-folder reply templates (but it's more to manage): %From=Webmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can also set this line in the New Message template for those folders, so any time you create a new message when those folders are active get the right From address... That's what I'm doing - I obviously wasn't clear in my original message. It doesn't work here... -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Hello Admin at AK everyone else, on 17-Nov-2005 at 15:42 you (Admin at AK) wrote: However, no matter what combination of macros I use, the outgoing is still labelled as FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can you send one of the templates to the list so we can have a look at them? %QUOTES %CURSOR -- Marten Gallagher Webmaster for BSRLM [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bsrlm.org.uk Annery Kiln Web Design and Management %FROMNAME=Marten Gallagher %FROMADDR=[EMAIL PROTECTED] %REPLYADDR=[EMAIL PROTECTED] +++ -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
You don't need to add the Reply-To unless you're inserting your a Reply-To in your account profile, but when you do so, you need to use the macro: %ReplyTo=address The %ReplyAddr macro inserts something in the body. OK - so I combined the two theories: +++ %CURSOR -- Marten Gallagher Webmaster for BSRLM [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bsrlm.org.uk Annery Kiln Web Design and Management %FROM=%- %FROM='Marten Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED]' +++ But it still doesn't work. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Hallo Marten, On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 19:48:36 +GMT (17-11-2005, 20:48 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MG I have now realised that %CURSOR and the signature is being MG ignored as well - the cursor should be in the MG body of the message but is in the TO field when I start a new message. Therefore I MG conclude that the template macros are being ignired altogether. What editor are you using? With MicroEd I've got no problems whatsoever. MicroEd - as far as I know - it's the in built plain text editor. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Hello Dwight, I created an automatic reply from another account recently as follows: Mail for my hockey account now comes to me rerouted through my gmail account. I have sorting rules for subscribe and unsubscribe, and If I get a subscribe message the sorting office does various things. The last thing it does is to generate an automatic reply and this is the template it uses. If I didn't specify @ACCOUNT, the mail would be sent from the gmail account, which I don't want. Hope this helps! %ACCOUNT=Hockey Beste %OFromFName, %ODateEn, %OTimeLongEn, you wrote: %Quotes %Cursor Uw adres is toegevoegd aan de HVM adressenlijst -- Redactie HVM - -- Kind regards, Jenny Zonneveld Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
On Thursday, November 17, 2005, 1:48:36 PM, Marten Gallagher wrote: the cursor should be in the body of the message but is in the TO field when I start a new message. No, when you start a new message, the cursor should be in the TO: field, so you can insert an address. You should be able to tell whether the signature part of the template is working, because there will either be or not be the signature there. Unless the %CURSOR macro is in the template! -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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When I use CTRL+N to start a new message, the folder template is applied, but the cursor is on the input box for the TO field. Then I tab down thru the rest of the headers to the body, and only then the cursor jumps to the position where the %CURSOR macro was placed in the template. Different thing when you're replying, in that case the TO field is already filled. :) Oh silly me - you're right - I was thinking of the reply template - sorry. Now back to my puzzle. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Marten Gallagher everyone else, on 17-Nov-2005 at 21:45 you (Marten Gallagher) wrote: folders that are outside an account You mean common folders? I have never understood the term 'common folders'. They are folders I have created using Folder Folder etc They don't get subfolders automatically like account folders do. They are not virtual folders, they are not the standard folders that get created as a set when a new account is created. They are simply folders I have created to store things in. Does that make them 'common' - I always assumed 'common fodlers' were the ones that were automatically created as sub-folders of an account when a new account was created. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
On Thursday, November 17, 2005, 2:36:09 PM, Marten Gallagher wrote: Unless the %CURSOR macro is in the template! are you saying that presence of the %corsor macro kills the signature? On the other issue, it does not seem like a bug that whenever you hit ctrl-n or the 'create a new message' icon that it always starts with the cursor at To: No - I wonder if our emails have crossed here? I was getting confused - it happens quite easily with me and TB! - I use the %CURSOR macro in a Reply template so that when the reply orm i created, the cursor sits where it should after the quoted text of the email to which I am replying. EG: %QUOTES %CURSOR -- Marten Gallagher Webmaster for Broomhill [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.broomhillart.co.uk Annery Kiln Web Design and Management ++ -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
On Thursday, November 17, 2005, 3:10:42 PM, Marten Gallagher wrote: If everyone could have the discussion here using terms of art for what windows they are looking at, what types of messages they are working with, what kinds of folders they are in, maybe we could all understand what each other is talking about, and get further faster. OK sorry if the breaking of messages and imprecision is my fault. Let me try to explain this again. I am webmaster for a number of clients on whose behalf I send emails regarding their websites. I have a number of POP accounts for which I have ACCOUNT folders in the list of folders. I also have a POP account for each [EMAIL PROTECTED] that I have. I.e: usually one for each website that I maintain. For reasons not necessary to explain here, most of these are set so that email addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is re-directed, by the server, to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an account set up on my machine here. When TB receives an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], a series of filters on incoming mail sorts it and sends, say, [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the COMMON FOLDER 'Pinky Blob'. Now comes the bit that always used to work: I set the IDENTITY in the properties of the Pinky Blob COMMON FOLDER to the appropriate settings: 'Webmaster for Pinky Blob' and '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' and I set up the template in the Pinky Blob COMMON FOLDER to have a specific signature such as: 'Regards - Webmaster for Pinky Blob' So that if I HIGHLIGHTED the Pinky Blob COMMON FOLDER and clicked on the CREATE A NEW MESSAGE icon on the toolbar... ...OR... ...if I replied to a message that had been filtered into the Pinky Blob COMMON FOLDER by clicking the relevant REPLY icon... ...then the new email, or the quoted email ready for writing the reply, would open in the editor window with the FROM line saying whatever had been entered in the IDENTITY properties of the COMMON FOLDER and the message having the SIGNATURE taken from the MESSAGE TEMPLATE or from the REPLY TEMPLATE. HOWEVER... at an unspecified time in the not too recent past, this seems to have changed and the FROM address is always [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the signature(s) are always that which is set for the [EMAIL PROTECTED] ACCOUNT FOLDER templates. Sorry to be so long-winded... -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
