Re: SOT: Languages and Writing Systems
Monday, October 18, 1999 Hello Thomas, Monday, Monday, October 18, 1999, you wrote: Thomas Hi tracer, Thomas on Monday, October 18, 1999, 12:09:55 PM, tracer wrote: Thomas Every script has drawbacks when you want to use it for another Thomas language. ;-) t I know but here in Thailand it must be about the only place where they t try to make a language which is quite irregular when it comes to the t way things are written/pronounced, regular... problem is for instance t Than, Tani, Tanee and whatever being used for the same thing. t Or Thanon, tanon whatever for street. The good thing is that Thai t postal office employees are masters in recognising screwed up t addresses... Thomas The problem is not Thai, but English. "Thanon" is spelled to-tung, Thomas no-noo, no-noo. Thani is spelled to-tong, sara ah, no-noo, sara ih. Thomas How to trans-scribe this into English, is up to everybody's taste, Thomas because there is no recognized standard. After all, it would be only Thomas for the "illiterate farangs", so who cares... ;-) The problem is not Thai, not English, its THAIS. I donot care but there is an official standard, seemingly inherited from the Vietnam period produced by the peace corps from the USA. Anything official follows those rules and had as consequence that my son, whose name is RAAD ended up in a passport with the name RAT. NOT funny (g). t Anyway, drop me pls that suitable Thai font you said you had. t Its a non proportional TT font correct?? Thomas Yes; I already sent it to you yesterday by attachment to mail. It's Thomas called DbThaiText Fixed. If yo9u didn't receive it, I will send it Thomas again in the evening (I don't have it here in the office). I didnt sofar. Ok, so its a DB font, I checked a collection of some 1000 fonts I have and its not in there but, I see very few DB fonts so they must have been mislaid somewhere. Thomas And for those who were wondering why this thread is still "on" the Thomas lsit: I believe that it is important for a truely international email Thomas client to know about the problems that arise if you use langauges Thomas other than English. I believe the European langauges and Russian have Thomas been taken care of by the developers, but we are only boiling down on Thomas the problem with Asian languages. I hope that's OK. Not only that, if its usable as an email program under either Thai windows/English windows with Thai, it means more users. Best regards, tracer files attached: none Using theBAT 1.36 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: SOT: Languages and Writing Systems
Hi there! On 18 Oct 99, at 14:15, tracer wrote about "Re: SOT: Languages and Writing Syst": The problem is not Thai, not English, its THAIS. I donot care but there is an official standard, seemingly inherited from the Vietnam period produced by the peace corps from the USA. Anything official follows those rules and had as consequence that my son, whose name is RAAD ended up in a passport with the name RAT. NOT funny (g). And what? English/American name "Chris" sounds pretty much the Russian word for "rat". I've known one Chris who became very offended after my Russian friends explained him, *what* his name gets associated with in their minds:-)) PS. If some Chris is reading this, please, no offence:-) It's just the language:-)) SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) -- Thought for the day: How long a minute is depends on which side of the bathroom door you are on. --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: SOT: Languages and Writing Systems
Tuesday, October 19, 1999 Hello Alexander, Monday, Monday, October 18, 1999, you wrote: Alexander Hi there! Alexander On 18 Oct 99, at 13:49, Thomas Fernandez wrote Alexander about "SOT: Languages and Writing Systems": ...And for those who were wondering why this thread is still "on" the lsit: I believe that it is important for a truely international email client to know about the problems that arise if you use langauges other than English. I believe the European langauges and Russian have been taken care of by the developers, but we are only boiling down on the problem with Asian languages. I hope that's OK. Alexander I agree with you wholeheartedly. IMHO, one of the major Alexander features of TB is it's prominent multi-lingual support. Currently Alexander it's mainly 8bit-oriented, but I can't see why it couldn't be Alexander extended to the case of double-byte languages. A more practical question maybe, is there any practical reason why the bat HAS to use these mono fonts as if it could use any standard TTF it would make life soe much easier... and text would probably LOOK better if some fonts I just had to dig through are typical Alexander SY, Alex Alexander (St.Petersburg, Russia) Best regards, tracer files attached: none Using theBAT 1.36 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: SOT: Languages and Writing Systems
Hi there! On 19 Oct 99, at 1:54, tracer wrote about "Re[2]: SOT: Languages and Writing S": A more practical question maybe, is there any practical reason why the bat HAS to use these mono fonts as if it could use any standard TTF it would make life soe much easier... and text would probably LOOK better if some fonts I just had to dig through are typical Just it's not that simple to get wariable-width fonts under Delphi:- ) Support for *any* fonts is on the wishlist, though:-) Still waiting... SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) -- Thought for the day: If you can't learn to do it well, you should learn to enjoy doing it badly. --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
SOT: Languages and Writing Systems
Hi tracer, on Monday, October 18, 1999, 12:09:55 PM, tracer wrote: Thomas Every script has drawbacks when you want to use it for another Thomas language. ;-) t I know but here in Thailand it must be about the only place where they t try to make a language which is quite irregular when it comes to the t way things are written/pronounced, regular... problem is for instance t Than, Tani, Tanee and whatever being used for the same thing. t Or Thanon, tanon whatever for street. The good thing is that Thai t postal office employees are masters in recognising screwed up t addresses... The problem is not Thai, but English. "Thanon" is spelled to-tung, no-noo, no-noo. Thani is spelled to-tong, sara ah, no-noo, sara ih. How to trans-scribe this into English, is up to everybody's taste, because there is no recognized standard. After all, it would be only for the "illiterate farangs", so who cares... ;-) t Anyway, drop me pls that suitable Thai font you said you had. t Its a non proportional TT font correct?? Yes; I already sent it to you yesterday by attachment to mail. It's called DbThaiText Fixed. If yo9u didn't receive it, I will send it again in the evening (I don't have it here in the office). ...And for those who were wondering why this thread is still "on" the lsit: I believe that it is important for a truely international email client to know about the problems that arise if you use langauges other than English. I believe the European langauges and Russian have been taken care of by the developers, but we are only boiling down on the problem with Asian languages. I hope that's OK. -- Best regards, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.36 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
